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May 24, 2024, 03:57:50 AM
Why is it that when I am watching the East Finals, I feel like the defense is always weak? Or is it just because they are playing fastball? While on the West Finals, the floor looks so small because of the hardcore defense in the paint, it's like no one is allowed to go in there.
 
Anyway, big win for the Celtics although I lost my bet. Haliburton, I hope he is okay after that leg soreness where he didn't come back anymore. It will be a problem for the Pacers to come back from a 0-2 series deficit without him.
New York Knicks also had the 0-2 lead in their series against the Pacers but when they got back home to Indiana their confidence was boosted. Adjustments will happen but I wish it's the defense that will get better. JB and JT are getting what they want. Jrue Holiday was being left to shoot three. That's the worst thing you will do in the ECF, at least  contest the shots.
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May 24, 2024, 03:03:24 AM
Wolves played quite well yet again, but Dallas had a much better offense. That was definitely a close game, I felt like we are going to end up seeing things change a bit. Nuggets do have a great offense, but it is usually PNR focused with Jokic and Murray, which Wolves had a great response with ANT and gobert/kat so it was easier to defend them. Whereas Dallas has both Kyrie and Doncic, and that made things a little harder on perimeter just as imagined.

I feel like it is not going to be all that easy for Dallas neither, they won with thin margin and that means it is going to be harder to keep winning, of course things can change but I feel like the series will be quite a close one and both teams will have multiple wins, I can see at least a game 6 on this series.
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May 24, 2024, 02:04:59 AM
Celtics is going to Indiana with 2-0 lead in the series. Haliburton is injured, it's alarming for Pacers. Brown is having his best game in the play-off. It looks like Celtics will finish this series pretty fast and have time to rest before the finals. The Pacers' regret of not winning the first game seems to be growing even more now.
BTW if the Celtics win the championship, the Finals MVP could be Brown instead of Tatum. It would be very interesting if Brown, who was mocked in the dunk contest, becomes the FMVP in the same year. Smiley

Yes, it's now 2-0, Pacers is not on the brink although this is just game 3 and playing at home. But their best player is injured and somewhat will have to step up to avoid a sweep. But I think it's a forgone conclusion now, even without KP, Celtics is really solid and proving why they are the best team in the regular season by having defeated their opponents and they are like average 10.5 winning margins, so that's speak how great this team is. And I do agree, if they are going to win the conference finals, I think Jaylen Brown will be the MVP, base on the strength of his 3 point in game 1 that forces OT and get the win for them. And another stellar performance in game 2 with 40 big points.

I'm sure the Pacers cannot forget their big mistake in game 1, they could have won it and the series after game 2 is tied. That would still make them confident going home with 1-1 record. But now, they'll be playing with 0-2 record and they'll need to win both game 3 and 4 so they have a chance to beat the Celtics. I hope the injury of their main man is nothing serious, he'll come back in game 3 and showed their dominance at home, they can get back in the series.

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But the odds for the Eastern conference MVP favors Tatum at 1.75, Brown at 2.20. Might be good to throw some money Brown now.

I would go for Brown this time as Tatum is inconsistently, we can't blame here because the defense are so focus on him, so most likely it will be Brown that will produce more points. And his confidence now is very high after scoring 40 points on a big win in game 2.
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May 24, 2024, 01:19:07 AM
Celtics is going to Indiana with 2-0 lead in the series. Haliburton is injured, it's alarming for Pacers. Brown is having his best game in the play-off. It looks like Celtics will finish this series pretty fast and have time to rest before the finals. The Pacers' regret of not winning the first game seems to be growing even more now.
BTW if the Celtics win the championship, the Finals MVP could be Brown instead of Tatum. It would be very interesting if Brown, who was mocked in the dunk contest, becomes the FMVP in the same year. Smiley

Yes, it's now 2-0, Pacers is not on the brink although this is just game 3 and playing at home. But their best player is injured and somewhat will have to step up to avoid a sweep. But I think it's a forgone conclusion now, even without KP, Celtics is really solid and proving why they are the best team in the regular season by having defeated their opponents and they are like average 10.5 winning margins, so that's speak how great this team is. And I do agree, if they are going to win the conference finals, I think Jaylen Brown will be the MVP, base on the strength of his 3 point in game 1 that forces OT and get the win for them. And another stellar performance in game 2 with 40 big points. But the odds for the Eastern conference MVP favors Tatum at 1.75, Brown at 2.20. Might be good to throw some money Brown now.
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May 24, 2024, 01:18:38 AM
Well, this is just game 1, there's still more game to be played but Dallas winning on the road is big, they don't need to win game 2, they are still ahead IMO. what I'm surprise with this is that Dallas have more points in the paint compared to the Wolves which is suppose to be the opposite.
True, but as a Mavericks fun this already bring safisfaction, one win at a time, I trust Kyrie and Luka to deliver so I'm very positive with the possible outcome of the series that will favor the Mavs. There will be more adjustments that will happen, just like the Nuggets vs Wolves series, every game was really unpredictable, Wolves took 2 games on the road  and they loss 2 at their homecourt as well, who would  even thought of that?

now the series odds has changed, it's quite the opposite before game 1.

Dallas now at 1.59 and Wolves at 2.38.

It's no surprise that the odds changed in favor of the Mavs after the first game. However, I still think the Wolves will finally win this series and become the Western Conference champions. Objectively speaking, the Nuggets were clearly a tougher opponent for the Wolves than the Mavs.

Good luck with what you believe, but I'm believing the opposite outcome. Well, obviously they are the tougher match up for the Wolves because they were the defending champion and finished with better ranking than the Dallas. however, this is a different match up, and Dallas had already proven they can beat the Wolves.

Also, before this, Dallas beat the number 1 in ranking, so if ranking was the basis, it's very clear that OKC is the best team in the West and Dallas beat them in 6. We sure have different opinion here, but let's see if the Wolves can even the series and then let's talk about their chances to win.
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May 24, 2024, 12:55:00 AM
Boston Celtics will play the Indiana Pacers tonight.
Boston Celtics are the favorites in the East, I think they will win the first game without much difficulty, the team is well rested and ready for this game.
It will be a nice and enjoyable game.

Boston Celtics might have just survived a major disaster in game 1, after having multiple double digits lead, they were just about 8 seconds away from throwing the game away, or the better way to describe it would the Pacers very close to earning a win in game 1... I think the Celtics because complacent during those minutes, and it almost ended badly for them, Jaylen Brown had quite a number of big plays, like the 3 point bucket, a steal and a block in those final minute and OT to help Celtics avoid a loss. They sure would need to do better against this hungry Indiana Pacers roster.

The Celtics almost lost that one very important game, but that was supposed to be much more important for the Pacers. If you saw that Haliburton pre-celebrated silently when they were up 5 with seconds more left down the stretch, you could easily tell how important that game was for them to get the W. That was suppose to build momentum for the Pacers to move forward and increase their chances of winning this series. Also, to clear some doubts against them about their wins in 1st round and conference semis against an injury troubled teams.
I think the Celtics' experience just prevailed in the last seconds of the game. They tighten their defense, while the Pacers were getting too excited on getting their first conference finals win.
Now that the Celtics learned the Pacers are not an easy team to beat despite of all the critics against them for reaching the conference finals, I don't think they'll get too complacent moving forward.
I see it differently mate, it seems like the refs are trying to help the Celtics win. There were plenty of moves by Jaylen Brown that should have been called as traveling, yet the refs didn't call them. The refs favored the Celtics in terms of calls, but that does not happen every game. So, again, I'm rooting for the Pacers to win—not just betting on the handicap. Also, the Celtics seem unable to stop the offense of the Pacers, who are really moving at a fast pace. So, I think it's going to be an easy over for the Pacers in game 2.

Well, I agree there was a couple or more bad calls against the Pacers or rather non calls that supposed to be a foul, but a team should not give up over those missed calls. If you remember how the Wolves won against the Nuggets in game 7, there was a lot of bad calls and non calls against them, though they were complaining but they never stop fighting.
Now, like I said, that game 1 the Pacers' must win game but they blew it up, that should be one of the key points to win this series against the Celtics. I'm sorry If you see this match up differently, but before this series started, people knew the Celtics are just too much for the Pacers.
Just like what I've thought, the Celtics didn't take the game 2 too lightly for the Pacers. The Pacers have the talent and size, but I haven't seen them using it against the Celtics yet. Seems like JB is too locked in for the Finals over everyone else on the court.
And, I'm sorry man, I just don't bite the refs excuses. Yes, there are some biased calls and that really sucks, but I hate it when the team give up over those bad calls.
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May 24, 2024, 12:53:48 AM
The Indiana Pacers couldn’t even stay near the spread tonight. Looks like the Boston Celtics have their number. They’re probably really glad to be doing this without Krystaps Porzingis in the lineup. I think it would probably be smart to leave him out the rest of the series to rest if they can. Boston in four?
Too early to make a conclusion, Pacers were able to come back against the Knicks, so I think they'll take care of the business at home. What I'm worried about the Pacers is the injury of Hali, if he could not come back in game 3, then I think you might be correct with Boston in 4.

I bet on the Celitics spread and I'm happy I got it right, I was thinking that maybe Celtics will play better in game 2 which is opposite of what they did in the past 2 rounds where they loss in game 2, and I was right on the money.
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May 24, 2024, 12:12:54 AM
The Indiana Pacers couldn’t even stay near the spread tonight. Looks like the Boston Celtics have their number. They’re probably really glad to be doing this without Krystaps Porzingis in the lineup. I think it would probably be smart to leave him out the rest of the series to rest if they can. Boston in four?
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May 23, 2024, 11:32:44 PM
Celtics is going to Indiana with 2-0 lead in the series. Haliburton is injured, it's alarming for Pacers. Brown is having his best game in the play-off. It looks like Celtics will finish this series pretty fast and have time to rest before the finals. The Pacers' regret of not winning the first game seems to be growing even more now.
BTW if the Celtics win the championship, the Finals MVP could be Brown instead of Tatum. It would be very interesting if Brown, who was mocked in the dunk contest, becomes the FMVP in the same year. Smiley

That was the Boston Celtics that I am expecting this playoffs. Physical and driving strong. They dominated the game. Jalen Brown showed up with a big 40. So it seems like Hali will most likely miss several games. Indiana is done without Hali IMO. Boston should grab the opportunity so they can rest early.

I always see Jalen Brown as the more accurate of the two. One thing I do not like on Tatum is his habit for easy threes when he could drive the ball that could also lead to open more opportunities for his teammates to shoot.
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May 23, 2024, 10:52:16 PM
Celtics is going to Indiana with 2-0 lead in the series. Haliburton is injured, it's alarming for Pacers. Brown is having his best game in the play-off. It looks like Celtics will finish this series pretty fast and have time to rest before the finals. The Pacers' regret of not winning the first game seems to be growing even more now.
BTW if the Celtics win the championship, the Finals MVP could be Brown instead of Tatum. It would be very interesting if Brown, who was mocked in the dunk contest, becomes the FMVP in the same year. Smiley
I really thought that the Celtics' Game 2 curse will continue on this one since in their first 2 series, they lost in both Game 2's.
Now the Celtics are up 2-0 and with Haliburton's left hamstring injury, it really indeed is alarming. Also add the fact that Porzingis "MAY" return in their next games of the team already after being out because of an injury.

The Pacers are 1-12 all-time when they are down 0-2 in a series, and 1-8 all-time in best of 7 series. We know that the Celtics have the upper hand from the start of the series already, but I hope that Haliburton will come back in the next games and hopefully we will see a 6-7 game series between these 2 teams. Brown had one of the best playoff games of his career scoring 40 points while Tatum and White both scored 23 points respectively.

Brown for Finals MVP? Does he know how to dribble using his left hand already? Because that's his problem in the past and surprisingly, he got the currently highest contract despite having a problem with his dribbling skills. Cheesy Well, let's see, but first they need to defeat the Pacers. Smiley
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May 23, 2024, 09:28:07 PM
Celtics is going to Indiana with 2-0 lead in the series. Haliburton is injured, it's alarming for Pacers. Brown is having his best game in the play-off. It looks like Celtics will finish this series pretty fast and have time to rest before the finals. The Pacers' regret of not winning the first game seems to be growing even more now.
BTW if the Celtics win the championship, the Finals MVP could be Brown instead of Tatum. It would be very interesting if Brown, who was mocked in the dunk contest, becomes the FMVP in the same year. Smiley
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May 23, 2024, 08:14:36 PM
And money are pouring on the Celtics, but I will change my betting here with a Under 58.5, 1st Quarter - Total.

That was a solid pick, the first Quarter ended with 52 points, with Pacer earning a 2 points lead.

Congratulations mate!
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May 23, 2024, 08:06:04 PM
[....]but I think it will be easier for the Celtics to win this time because I'm sure Celtics head coach Joe Mazzulla will make some adjustments.
Easier huh? Are you willing to bet on them with -handicap?

I think this is going to be another close game with less than 10-point gap but I don't know who will come out as the winner. I'm still betting on the Pacers +10.5 since they are the underdogs just like in game 1. It just makes more sense to pick that with odds @1.7

And it's really hard to predict this game. Yes, it was very close in Game 1 and it can go either way. Pacers had a great chance though, they blew it away by allowing Brown to have that good shot at the corner.

People are talking about adjustments here in the part of Celtics. But that's how they play, high scoring game and not concern about playing defense.

And money are pouring on the Celtics, but I will change my betting here with a Under 58.5, 1st Quarter - Total.
Good bet on this one mate, the first quarter score was just 52 points. Pacers though in the second quarter is still scoreless with still 6:45. So the Celtics made the critical adjustment and make it hard for the Pacers to score unlike in the first game. And if I'm not mistaken, Wolves did a great defensive job on the Nuggets and allowing them to score just 9 points in a quarter, not sure what game it is. Perhaps the Pacers can tie or even score less if their shooting continues to go down and Celtics putting a clinical defense on them. You can see the frustrations of Haliburton already after the Pacers calling a timeout. But still very early, this is just the second quarter so let's see how the game will pan out. We wanted a close game and not one team leading huge specially in a conference finals so that it's going to be worth to watch this games.
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May 23, 2024, 07:10:27 PM
[....]but I think it will be easier for the Celtics to win this time because I'm sure Celtics head coach Joe Mazzulla will make some adjustments.
Easier huh? Are you willing to bet on them with -handicap?

I think this is going to be another close game with less than 10-point gap but I don't know who will come out as the winner. I'm still betting on the Pacers +10.5 since they are the underdogs just like in game 1. It just makes more sense to pick that with odds @1.7

And it's really hard to predict this game. Yes, it was very close in Game 1 and it can go either way. Pacers had a great chance though, they blew it away by allowing Brown to have that good shot at the corner.

People are talking about adjustments here in the part of Celtics. But that's how they play, high scoring game and not concern about playing defense.

And money are pouring on the Celtics, but I will change my betting here with a Under 58.5, 1st Quarter - Total.
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May 23, 2024, 06:57:44 PM
[....]but I think it will be easier for the Celtics to win this time because I'm sure Celtics head coach Joe Mazzulla will make some adjustments.
Easier huh? Are you willing to bet on them with -handicap?

I think this is going to be another close game with less than 10-point gap but I don't know who will come out as the winner. I'm still betting on the Pacers +10.5 since they are the underdogs just like in game 1. It just makes more sense to pick that with odds @1.7
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May 23, 2024, 06:34:41 PM
What to say about the yesterday game.... very complicated to analize for me, because i wasnt expecting a Dallas Mavericks wins , Minesota after defeating Denver becomes the best contender of the west side for me, they seem solid and they take down the reigning champion, but well seems like Luka Doncic wants to start to make his name on NBA.
It is hard to analyze when we're expecting that Minnesota Timberwolves was about to win the series but ended up losing it. This is just the game 1 and there is more to come and let's see if they're going to claim back their glory on the upcoming games as this can potentially reach up to game 7.

Imagine Wolfes vs Pacers in the finals. that would be a great surprise, best defense vs best offense. What more can we hope for?
Boston is too boring and Dalles, I have the mentioned reasons to not root for them.  Wink
The thought of most won't align with Pacers. There is not that much fans for the Pacers globally but they're showing that they should also get some love but obviously for their home court and town, definitely a lot of fans are there to support. I think with this narrative, we just want to see teams that don't usually go in the finals to face each other so I like that match up if it will be Wolves and Pacers but any possibility is there.
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May 23, 2024, 06:27:40 PM
Game 2 of the Boston Celtics - Indiana Pacers series will be played tonight, starting in half an hour.
Boston Celtics are my favorite again tonight, I think they will win.
I think it will be an enjoyable game like the first game.

Dallas won last night, Kyrie and Doncic played very well and won the game.
I want to see Kyrie Irving in the finals.
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May 23, 2024, 06:26:33 PM
Yeah he needs to show some respect though it's his gesture of being competitive and it might inspire him to play hard just like how Kyrie play being inspire by that kind of challenge, proving that you can still bring something and manage to win the game, I like the exchange attacks of Kyrie and Luka they are not forcing it but instead they really managing the help that they can get from all their teammates, like what you said those young big man they all working hard fighting for the second chance points.

It's tough for them and they are against a team who beat the defending champion and still managed to win game one with a hard-fought battle. It wasn't an easy game for them and they needed to win number 1 as much as possible because winning against Timberwolves when their big men are healthy is almost impossible. Thankfully, they were sinking threes and sometimes back to back to get the lead or not to be left behind too long. which is kinda bad in the NBA playoff games because they are having a hard time catching up in the last quarter because they won't be given any easy chance to do so.

Really wasn't easy for Dallas to defeat the Wolves since we see that each of them is really connecting well and provide more better defense its just Dallas is showing some great experience and take advantage to take the lead for the first game of this series. We see a lot of actions happening and for sure people watching the game is satisfied for what they see on that game. Its great to see a classic Kyrie stepping up and provide some good numbers for his team since it really show they are  trying their best  to take the lead and possible get the advantage before the Wolves will gather its momentum. I expect that game two would be more intense since for sure its time for Wolves to take revenge and they provably won't allow Dallas to get another win since this will be dangerous for them if they allow that.

Kyrie will probably remain unstoppable as he had already proved it in game 1. he like the match up with ANT which is the best player of the wolves. Luka as well is playing great basketball, his shooting struggled at the beginning but in the 2nd half, especially in the 4th quarter, he exploded again.

Well, this is just game 1, there's still more game to be played but Dallas winning on the road is big, they don't need to win game 2, they are still ahead IMO. what I'm surprise with this is that Dallas have more points in the paint compared to the Wolves which is suppose to be the opposite.

That prove that a young player should respect the experience star and that game Kyrie prove something to ANT that he ain't easy for him. For sure that game on performance leave some mark to ANT that he should respect Kyrie. He like to match up with him since he know that he need to teach this guy a lesson and its great that it converted good to him since we see how explosive Kyrie on game 1. Both stars of Dallas is blowing up that's the reason they able to manage to catch up with Wolves despite of their struggles on perimeter. But what good thing about that which is they can penetrate the defense of Wolves and score in the paint.

Wolves need to adjust and tighten up their defense on paint they have defensive guys can able to do that and its just they collapsed on game one. Game 2 would be more interesting since we know Wolves is capable to bounce back and revenge on Dallas that's why this is another game of this series which is exciting to watch.
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May 23, 2024, 04:58:05 PM
Okay, just few hours until Game 2 of the Eastern Conference Finals Pacers vs. Celtics starts. I think the Celtics will win this Game 2 again. In Game 1, I know the Pacers almost won, but I think it will be easier for the Celtics to win this time because I'm sure Celtics head coach Joe Mazzulla will make some adjustments. The Celtics bench is also really good. They're more talented compared to Pacers bench. Payton Pritchard almost averaging 10 pts per games this playoffs.
Pacers almost had it.

I think that every NBA fan now is seeing how Pacers are good even this is a totally new roster. I am still with the Celtics and think that they're going to win this ECF.

But then, Pacers no doubt can get some wins against them. And once this ECF is done, more opportunities coming to the contributors of Pacers.
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May 23, 2024, 03:11:33 PM
Okay, just few hours until Game 2 of the Eastern Conference Finals Pacers vs. Celtics starts. I think the Celtics will win this Game 2 again. In Game 1, I know the Pacers almost won, but I think it will be easier for the Celtics to win this time because I'm sure Celtics head coach Joe Mazzulla will make some adjustments. The Celtics bench is also really good. They're more talented compared to Pacers bench. Payton Pritchard almost averaging 10 pts per games this playoffs.

Still going to be very close match in my opinion. If Celtics are going to adjust, then the Pacers as well as we have seen in game 1 wherein the Pacers almost win and steal it from the Celtics if not for Brown contested three point shot from the corner. Although I think the Celtics will win the series in 6 games, but it will be very easy as others might have predicted as Pacers is also a solid team. Opening line is not -6.5 for the Celtics at most sports bookies. But who knows, with how the Pacers played in game 1, maybe they can close the gap again and before for betting public to go for +6.5 for them as the odds are pretty attractive.
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