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November 15, 2020, 04:11:33 AM
Now that people seem to lost their trust to GSW as they have a new favorite, I'm liking the odds now.

Oh yeah stadus, we might make tons of money here.  Grin

But if GSW showcased their skills once again, the bandwagon will be back.
That time we could bet for the old favorites.  Wink
But seriously, Klay and Curry had enough of their rest. Time to work again to get another championship.
The roster is looking great and they have young players that can easily adapt to the fast plays of Steve Kerr.
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November 15, 2020, 01:06:59 AM
I can still consider Rose as one of the best players in the NBA though.
He had huge potential, and of course, he could be one of the best players, but injuries are haunting him throughout his career.  I don't even remember the number of his injuries (ACL, meniscus, ankle, etc...)

The guy is lucky to walk tbh.
I wish we could know what would happen to him if he is injury free. Could be at HOF discussion right now.
And multiple MVP awards, and Lebron will not be as amplify as today if Rose dominated the NBA if not for that injury that almost ended his career. Yes, he can still today, but not as close to what his true potential could have been with the Bulls. Perhaps it was the cost of being gifted with too much athleticism or just a victim of himself. If he wanted to get a ring before he retires then he should be Western team bound.
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November 15, 2020, 01:03:35 AM
Where do you think D-Rose should go this upcoming season?

If he stays in Pistons he won't see play-off or get eliminated in 1st round.
I wish he goes to a team that make higher place in play-offs and potentially a championship contender. I'd love to see him getting a ring before he retires.
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November 15, 2020, 01:00:42 AM
It is not an automatic finals bound team because there are also strong teams in East like the heat where there is rumor that Giannis will signed in heat  Shocked. This team will gonna be super strong if Giannis will really make a deal with heat because there will be a new duo: Giannis X Butler. But there are also a chance that the Nets can beat the Heat especially if all of the players are healthy. There is also a rumor that there will be reunion between Durant and Ibaka where he would sign in the Nets. I hope that both Durant and Kyrie will not be prone to injury anymore. 

Nah, I don't see something special about the Heat (unless they will rebuild their roster and acquire a legit big man) and I somehow don't see the Bucks and Giannis as the threat to the East as well. The NBA finals are clearly a mismatch. With the current Eastern team roster I can say the Nets are the strongest, then Boston, Heat, Milwaukee, Raptors, Sixers.
We have yet to see the KD and Kyrie tandem, but most likely this duo is lethal. They also had e legit big men DeAndre Jordan and Jarret Allen,  and also the most improve Nets player Spencer Dinwiddie during the absence of 2 superstars.
If these whole roster are all healthy, I don't see any Eastern team right now that could stop the Nets from going to the NBA finals in 2021.
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November 15, 2020, 12:30:22 AM
I can still consider Rose as one of the best players in the NBA though.
He had huge potential, and of course, he could be one of the best players, but injuries are haunting him throughout his career.  I don't even remember the number of his injuries (ACL, meniscus, ankle, etc...)

The guy is lucky to walk tbh.
I wish we could know what would happen to him if he is injury free. Could be at HOF discussion right now.

despite those years where he hasn't played much and injury caught him in the middle of crucial seasons, he showed outstanding skills these last two years where he proved he can still play and have a chance to bring their team to the championship if given a chance to play with the star players in this era. Where do you think D-Rose should go this upcoming season?

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November 14, 2020, 09:21:29 PM
I can still consider Rose as one of the best players in the NBA though.
He had huge potential, and of course, he could be one of the best players, but injuries are haunting him throughout his career.  I don't even remember the number of his injuries (ACL, meniscus, ankle, etc...)

The guy is lucky to walk tbh.
I wish we could know what would happen to him if he is injury free. Could be at HOF discussion right now.
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November 14, 2020, 06:46:10 PM
I can still consider Rose as one of the best players in the NBA though.
He had huge potential, and of course, he could be one of the best players, but injuries are haunting him throughout his career.  I don't even remember the number of his injuries (ACL, meniscus, ankle, etc...)
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November 14, 2020, 05:57:07 PM
Even Klay and Curry can lift up their team, there is no assurance that they will win the entire series. Well, this just explained that no matter what the team is, one day it may decline. Even in empires, there are golden era and declines.
We are going to see if they are still the old boys who make the GSW warriors popular. The next season is a shortened season, good for the team where players came from injury but I think Curry and Thompson had enough time to rest and get back in action in full potential.

Now that people seem to lost their trust to GSW as they have a new favorite, I'm liking the odds now.
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November 14, 2020, 05:51:40 PM
People are not remembering Warriors and their latest situation before all of this if they think they have a shot. I am not saying they will be a bad team, as long as curry and klay play like they always do they will always have a chance but we are talking about not the same warriors.

For starters obviously we are going to start with not having Durant anymore, that is a huuuge downfall for any team to have and that means they are worse just because of that.

They also have wiggins who is known for not playing hype game and usually not cares about the game too much and cause chemistry issues hence why warriors are looking to trade him and their draft to pick someone decent instead with that two package. Draymond is nowhere near as good as he used to be, still a great locker room guy and smart on D but he is nowhere near three point shooter he used to be on offense.

Curry will probably be still amazing but Klay had a serious injury that could limit his lateral which was very important because he was a core D guy for them. So all in all, they are still good but not near the best.
The Golden State Warriors became weaker and weaker when they team lose all-star players due to injuries and changing of team. GSW is one of my greatest team before. In fact, I am confident enough to bet with them during the last seasons. The downfall of this super team was really bad for supporters. Even Klay and Curry can lift up their team, there is no assurance that they will win the entire series. Well, this just explained that no matter what the team is, one day it may decline. Even in empires, there are golden era and declines.
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November 14, 2020, 04:58:49 PM
Just wanted to share a good laugh.  One of the reasons the Chicago Bulls suck so bad is because of their dumbass fans.  They have allowed ownership to spend no money and or put out a good product on the court yet continue to watch games both on TV and in person.  They in fact had the highest ticket sales up until last year or the year before..pathetic.  I recently saw some talk about Russell Westbrook possibly going to the Bulls.  A TON of Bulls fans were saying "we want Derrick Rose instead" or "Forget Russell bring Rose back". 

Just thought I'd share with you how difficult it is to be a bulls fan lol.



This is actually good because they still know that D-Rose can deliver even after a few injuries but we can't deny the fact that Russ can still deliver even though he ain't wanted in any teams. Russ should return to OKC so we can play with Steven Adams since their duo is still yet to be proven. D-Rose on the other hand should really be traded within a team that would be a contender to win the chip.

I am going to have to disagree with ya here.  The Bulls bringing Derrick Rose back makes very little sense. Rose hasn't played a full season since 2010.  The guy is constantly hurt.  Plenty of teams would love to have Westbrook too.  Despite facing some injuries himself, he's much less injury prove than Rose.  Last year Rose averaged 18pts , Westbrook avgeraged 27pts ( of course played 7 more games than Rose too).

Westbrook is someone you can build around, Derrick Rose is absolutely not.

I would agree with you on that, Rose after his injury in the Bulls was never the same, the kind of aggressiveness and consistency that is in him was not seen anymore though I can still consider Rose as one of the best players in the NBA though.
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November 14, 2020, 04:50:15 PM
Just wanted to share a good laugh.  One of the reasons the Chicago Bulls suck so bad is because of their dumbass fans.  They have allowed ownership to spend no money and or put out a good product on the court yet continue to watch games both on TV and in person.  They in fact had the highest ticket sales up until last year or the year before..pathetic.  I recently saw some talk about Russell Westbrook possibly going to the Bulls.  A TON of Bulls fans were saying "we want Derrick Rose instead" or "Forget Russell bring Rose back". 

Just thought I'd share with you how difficult it is to be a bulls fan lol.



This is actually good because they still know that D-Rose can deliver even after a few injuries but we can't deny the fact that Russ can still deliver even though he ain't wanted in any teams. Russ should return to OKC so we can play with Steven Adams since their duo is still yet to be proven. D-Rose on the other hand should really be traded within a team that would be a contender to win the chip.

I am going to have to disagree with ya here.  The Bulls bringing Derrick Rose back makes very little sense. Rose hasn't played a full season since 2010.  The guy is constantly hurt.  Plenty of teams would love to have Westbrook too.  Despite facing some injuries himself, he's much less injury prove than Rose.  Last year Rose averaged 18pts , Westbrook avgeraged 27pts ( of course played 7 more games than Rose too).

Westbrook is someone you can build around, Derrick Rose is absolutely not.
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November 14, 2020, 04:26:55 PM
While everyone is discussing the trade and rumors, what can you even say with this another rumor that just came out?

Rumor: Phoenix Suns looking to make a major change at point guard position
The Phoenix Suns appear to be eyeing a major change in the backcourt alongside Devin Booker. Oklahoma City Thunder’s Chris Paul has already been linked, but could top options like Houston Rockets’ Russell Westbrook or Toronto Raptors’ Fred VanVleet be attainable this NBA offseason?
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November 14, 2020, 11:20:31 AM
I don't see Kawhi playing better with Westbrook beside him.
PG13 will be the best wingman for him and I don't think the 2 of them have conflicts.

Kawhi and Westbrook would be a killer duo.
NY fans got excited already.
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November 14, 2020, 10:41:28 AM
Westbrook is not fit for the Clippers, a conflict with the role of Kawhi, I'm sure about that unless either of them will give way as the main scorer. But I see Paul George will be a good addition to the Rockets. Rockets will win on that trade if ever or maybe the best way to say it is, Rockets will win on the trade no matter what as long as they trade Westbrook. Grin

Bull's eye.
It's a conflict.
I don't see Kawhi playing better with Westbrook beside him.
PG13 will be the best wingman for him and I don't think the 2 of them have conflicts.
It's management which they will need to deal with.
They had just been around for a year. Another chance should be given.
I say get better this season. Take the number 1 spot and prove them wrong on what could have been a catastrophic decision.
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November 14, 2020, 10:21:49 AM
People are not remembering Warriors and their latest situation before all of this if they think they have a shot. I am not saying they will be a bad team, as long as curry and klay play like they always do they will always have a chance but we are talking about not the same warriors.

For starters obviously we are going to start with not having Durant anymore, that is a huuuge downfall for any team to have and that means they are worse just because of that.

They also have wiggins who is known for not playing hype game and usually not cares about the game too much and cause chemistry issues hence why warriors are looking to trade him and their draft to pick someone decent instead with that two package. Draymond is nowhere near as good as he used to be, still a great locker room guy and smart on D but he is nowhere near three point shooter he used to be on offense.

Curry will probably be still amazing but Klay had a serious injury that could limit his lateral which was very important because he was a core D guy for them. So all in all, they are still good but not near the best.
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November 14, 2020, 10:10:00 AM
It may be way to sooner but I think Warriors will win 2021 NBA Season as they had such a long break in order to prepare for it because their season basically ended after 10 games so I won't be surprised to see them in the finals. Also I would say that Nets have a good chance to reach semi-finals in their conference but we will see as transfers are still in talk in both conferences.

If you have a healthy Kevin Durant in your team, then that's such a huge boost for the team specially when he teamed up with superstars. If the Nets stay healthy all throughout the 2021 regular season, then that's an automatic Finals bound team.
On the other hand, the Western Conference are now becoming even stronger. The Denver Nuggets really impressed me with their playoff performance. While the Clippers are re-building their team with Leonard as the center piece. The Lakers are still on the process of acquiring more depth with their line up. I don't think we can say that the GSW might win in the next Playoffs. These teams I have mentioned are a very serious competitors against the GSW.

The good catch is we will seen unpredicted teams to move forward and dominate the league, it's a good start for specualting which
team may advance to the next round but reading the news, it's now a competitions at it best.

Both West and East are gathering players to work with their teams, and it's too early there are lots of trades that will happened along
the way, when frnchise owners see the potentials money will throw to entertin the fans.
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November 14, 2020, 09:50:37 AM

 Westbrook was also asked by Hornets as well. I don't know who they will give and what they could offer in order to get him, but it feels like if that happens Westbrook's book on being a great player is closed and shut down. He played in OKC when they were trying to win a title and that was great but ever since Durant left he wants to shine himself and doesn't care if other players want the ball, thats not how you can continue your career. However if somehow with some miracle that westbrook goes to Clippers, that would be very very weird, kawhi only wants the ball when he can help, westbrook wants the ball all the damn time and it would be a huge usage hell for that team. Clippers should focus on CP3 like they said they would, if they can manage to get him, thats going to change sooooo much for them, westbrook would be a huge mistake.
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November 14, 2020, 09:00:58 AM
The way the match is going, show that Toronto will improve their point to win the match this season, that will make them win this final match, that they are finding difficult to win right now. Los Angeles are still in low point show that Toronto will still win this season which their point is high than los Angeles.
Which Los Angeles franchise you are saying?

The current champ or the Clippers?

If we say about match, there will be various matches upcoming for the next season not just only one match to win the season.
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November 14, 2020, 08:43:21 AM
It may be way to sooner but I think Warriors will win 2021 NBA Season as they had such a long break in order to prepare for it because their season basically ended after 10 games so I won't be surprised to see them in the finals. Also I would say that Nets have a good chance to reach semi-finals in their conference but we will see as transfers are still in talk in both conferences.

If you have a healthy Kevin Durant in your team, then that's such a huge boost for the team specially when he teamed up with superstars. If the Nets stay healthy all throughout the 2021 regular season, then that's an automatic Finals bound team.
On the other hand, the Western Conference are now becoming even stronger. The Denver Nuggets really impressed me with their playoff performance. While the Clippers are re-building their team with Leonard as the center piece. The Lakers are still on the process of acquiring more depth with their line up. I don't think we can say that the GSW might win in the next Playoffs. These teams I have mentioned are a very serious competitors against the GSW.
It is not an automatic finals bound team because there are also strong teams in East like the heat where there is rumor that Giannis will signed in heat  Shocked. This team will gonna be super strong if Giannis will really make a deal with heat because there will be a new duo: Giannis X Butler. But there are also a chance that the Nets can beat the Heat especially if all of the players are healthy. There is also a rumor that there will be reunion between Durant and Ibaka where he would sign in the Nets. I hope that both Durant and Kyrie will not be prone to injury anymore. 
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November 14, 2020, 08:37:08 AM
Just wanted to share a good laugh.  One of the reasons the Chicago Bulls suck so bad is because of their dumbass fans.  They have allowed ownership to spend no money and or put out a good product on the court yet continue to watch games both on TV and in person.  They in fact had the highest ticket sales up until last year or the year before..pathetic.  I recently saw some talk about Russell Westbrook possibly going to the Bulls.  A TON of Bulls fans were saying "we want Derrick Rose instead" or "Forget Russell bring Rose back". 

Just thought I'd share with you how difficult it is to be a bulls fan lol.




This is actually good because they still know that D-Rose can deliver even after a few injuries but we can't deny the fact that Russ can still deliver even though he ain't wanted in any teams. Russ should return to OKC so we can play with Steven Adams since their duo is still yet to be proven. D-Rose on the other hand should really be traded within a team that would be a contender to win the chip.
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