Harden at Nets would be weird honestly, none of the stars there are team players, they are not like warriors share the ball kind of people, they are really just bunch of ISO players that takes million dribbles and then shoot.
That's still a far speculation but it's pretty hilarious to think it that way I just hope that they do got the chemistry and it's not really just about the player's individuality but there are other factors to consider like coaching. Just what a turndown for the man that will get a historical $50M for a single season. Was Harden move a selfish one? But yeah it's just like Miami Heat with the big three superstars as well but this is more upgraded AFAIK on the Nets lineup. 
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Thoughts? Do Bucks have what it takes this year to go for the title?
There is no reason not to be. This year they will appear as a very strong team. Bogdan Bogdanovic is one of the best players in NBA and Jrue Holiday also shows a very successful performance.
They played a good team game last season. If they can find a good team spirit this year, they can be a strong candidate for the championship
Of course it all depends on Giannis 
seem to have a chance with this newly created team, Giannis will be happy tooThis is a new combination of players for the bucks and looks like Giannis needs to make some adjustment to this new team. Overall, these guys are great. the trade season is still ongoing every approval and rejection feels exciting. I can see right now that most of the teams are carefully choosing their next rosters, they don't just approve some random trades.
I wonder who will gonna go to the Lakers next?
Will see, for sure more big news will be coming in the next few days.
Thoughts? Do Bucks have what it takes this year to go for the title?
There is no reason not to be. This year they will appear as a very strong team. Bogdan Bogdanovic is one of the best players in NBA and Jrue Holiday also shows a very successful performance.
They played a good team game last season. If they can find a good team spirit this year, they can be a strong candidate for the championship
Of course it all depends on Giannis seem to have a chance with this newly created team, Giannis will be happy tooThis is a new combination of players for the bucks and looks like Giannis needs to make some adjustment to this new team. Overall, these guys are great. the trade season is still ongoing every approval and rejection feels exciting. I can see right now that most of the teams are carefully choosing their next rosters, they don't just approve some random trades. I wonder who will gonna go to the Lakers next?
Harden indeed wants to chase a ring. Turning down a $50m/year contract means too obvious that he desperately needs to win a championship, and the focus was also obvious how serious and desperate he was on joining the Brooklyn Nets.
Well, If this happens, nobody can't deny they'll be an automatic NBA finals bound "IF" they stay healthy all throughout the regular and post season.
Well, If this happens, nobody can't deny they'll be an automatic NBA finals bound "IF" they stay healthy all throughout the regular and post season.
Imagine having Lakers - Nets finals in 2021. On one side LeBron-Davis-Kawhi and on the other side Harden-Durant-Irving.
I don't like teams getting 3 superstars but that's the usual basketball after 2010's. If we have to see big teams face each other then this is the clash I'd like to see in NBA.
The question there is team chemistry since we cannot really say that it's a sure win for them or it's a sure final appearance if they take more superstar in their team, harden and durant are ball hogs so provably there's a big adjustment for them before we can see that game will happen in the finals.
Durant is not, he plays with what is the team's play, I don't know about Harden, but one thing I can say is that Durant is a good teammate as he won 2 championship with the GSW and he was the finals MVP that time if I'm not mistaken.
It's because Steph Curry let Durant to lead the team, why Harden, we don't know if he can play second fiddle to Durant or even Irving. And we all know that Harden, as much as he is a good player and scorer, most of the time he doesn't work with other superstar in the team, i.e. CP3 or Westbrook.
And I'm sure that Durant will be the main point man for the Nets once he got back playing, so the adjustment is more on Harden. Will he developed to a different player when and if he goes to the Nets and let Durant take over?
Harden indeed wants to chase a ring. Turning down a $50m/year contract means too obvious that he desperately needs to win a championship, and the focus was also obvious how serious and desperate he was on joining the Brooklyn Nets.
Well, If this happens, nobody can't deny they'll be an automatic NBA finals bound "IF" they stay healthy all throughout the regular and post season.
Well, If this happens, nobody can't deny they'll be an automatic NBA finals bound "IF" they stay healthy all throughout the regular and post season.
Imagine having Lakers - Nets finals in 2021. On one side LeBron-Davis-Kawhi and on the other side Harden-Durant-Irving.
I don't like teams getting 3 superstars but that's the usual basketball after 2010's. If we have to see big teams face each other then this is the clash I'd like to see in NBA.
The question there is team chemistry since we cannot really say that it's a sure win for them or it's a sure final appearance if they take more superstar in their team, harden and durant are ball hogs so provably there's a big adjustment for them before we can see that game will happen in the finals.
Durant is not, he plays with what is the team's play, I don't know about Harden, but one thing I can say is that Durant is a good teammate as he won 2 championship with the GSW and he was the finals MVP that time if I'm not mistaken.
Harden indeed wants to chase a ring. Turning down a $50m/year contract means too obvious that he desperately needs to win a championship, and the focus was also obvious how serious and desperate he was on joining the Brooklyn Nets.
Well, If this happens, nobody can't deny they'll be an automatic NBA finals bound "IF" they stay healthy all throughout the regular and post season.
Well, If this happens, nobody can't deny they'll be an automatic NBA finals bound "IF" they stay healthy all throughout the regular and post season.
Imagine having Lakers - Nets finals in 2021. On one side LeBron-Davis-Kawhi and on the other side Harden-Durant-Irving.
I don't like teams getting 3 superstars but that's the usual basketball after 2010's. If we have to see big teams face each other then this is the clash I'd like to see in NBA.
The question there is team chemistry since we cannot really say that it's a sure win for them or it's a sure final appearance if they take more superstar in their team, harden and durant are ball hogs so provably there's a big adjustment for them before we can see that game will happen in the finals.
Harden indeed wants to chase a ring. Turning down a $50m/year contract means too obvious that he desperately needs to win a championship, and the focus was also obvious how serious and desperate he was on joining the Brooklyn Nets.
Well, If this happens, nobody can't deny they'll be an automatic NBA finals bound "IF" they stay healthy all throughout the regular and post season.
Well, If this happens, nobody can't deny they'll be an automatic NBA finals bound "IF" they stay healthy all throughout the regular and post season.
Imagine having Lakers - Nets finals in 2021. On one side LeBron-Davis-Kawhi and on the other side Harden-Durant-Irving.
I don't like teams getting 3 superstars but that's the usual basketball after 2010's. If we have to see big teams face each other then this is the clash I'd like to see in NBA.
Thoughts? Do Bucks have what it takes this year to go for the title?
There is no reason not to be. This year they will appear as a very strong team. Bogdan Bogdanovic is one of the best players in NBA and Jrue Holiday also shows a very successful performance.
They played a good team game last season. If they can find a good team spirit this year, they can be a strong candidate for the championship
Of course it all depends on Giannis seem to have a chance with this newly created team, Giannis will be happy too 
I see that noone mentions Milwaukee Bucks and big moves they did on Monday/Tuesday
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30333660/sources-milwaukee-bucks-agree-deals-new-orleans-pelicans-jrue-holiday-sacramento-kings-bogdan-bogdanovic
First they sent George Hill, Eric Bledsoe and three first round picks to exchange for Jrue Holiday. After that they decided to go for another shooting guard (even tho Jrue is more of a PG) and acquired Bogdan Bogdanovic from Kings in exchange for Ersan Ilyasova, Donte DiVincenzo and D.J. Wilson. Jrue and Bogdanovic could compliment Giannis well, as having a pretty decent shooter as Bogdanovic will make more room for Giannis and his drives, while he will spread the court for them. On top of that, Jrue is an elite defender, and when you are aiming as high as Bucks, that is a must have.
They way I see it, since Giannis becomes unrestricted free agent next year and due Bucks fear of loosing him as it becomes more and more popular to sacrifice some money in exchange for title shot, they decided to go all in and will push for the this season's title. I just hope this works, Bucks reach the final so Giannis signs supermax contract next year. It would be shame to see once again "Anthony Davis" type of scenario, as it makes NBA less interesting when top talents are concentrated in few teams.
Thoughts? Do Bucks have what it takes this year to go for the title?
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30333660/sources-milwaukee-bucks-agree-deals-new-orleans-pelicans-jrue-holiday-sacramento-kings-bogdan-bogdanovic
First they sent George Hill, Eric Bledsoe and three first round picks to exchange for Jrue Holiday. After that they decided to go for another shooting guard (even tho Jrue is more of a PG) and acquired Bogdan Bogdanovic from Kings in exchange for Ersan Ilyasova, Donte DiVincenzo and D.J. Wilson. Jrue and Bogdanovic could compliment Giannis well, as having a pretty decent shooter as Bogdanovic will make more room for Giannis and his drives, while he will spread the court for them. On top of that, Jrue is an elite defender, and when you are aiming as high as Bucks, that is a must have.
They way I see it, since Giannis becomes unrestricted free agent next year and due Bucks fear of loosing him as it becomes more and more popular to sacrifice some money in exchange for title shot, they decided to go all in and will push for the this season's title. I just hope this works, Bucks reach the final so Giannis signs supermax contract next year. It would be shame to see once again "Anthony Davis" type of scenario, as it makes NBA less interesting when top talents are concentrated in few teams.
Thoughts? Do Bucks have what it takes this year to go for the title?
^^ Maybe they can co-exist like the Blazers, like Lillard and McCollum. Or Paul with handle the ball all the time as their point guard and Booker as more on the scoring side and it will also take a lot from his shoulder the distribution load. So we might see Booker scoring advantage for next season increase by some margins. As compare to Harden and Westbrook who are pure scorer so it's really hard to put them on the same team.
Paul knows how to adjust we know that, wayback from the old clippers where he played alongside with Griffin. He knows how to adjust with his roles. Like how you compared with Blazers this two stars can co-exist as the 1-2 punch have a good advantage in terms of making points. Bookers shows great season from the last bubble.
With CP3 the load of playmaking will be remove from him, allowing him to focused from where he really good at. Booker will keep doing he's job with a good mentor veteran like CP3, it will be depends from how both players will adjust and try to meet both expectations the results will favor the team.
It looks like the Suns will be going to use Booker only in the shooting guard position for the next season.
It should be. Booker is way better as a Shooting Guard rather than making plays.
Others might see Chris Paul isn't a good addition to their team but I see another way around. CP3 will surely a big help for setting up Booker in his favorite area, the three-point line. Not just that, CP3 might also be the key for making good plays at the paint with DeAndre Ayton.
Remember the last time Phoenix was in the spotlight? They have a good point guard, a center, and a bunch of perimeter shooters. Not that good as before (due to bench players) but has a chance to make it happen again.
I agree. This would be the best team for cp3 to be on. He is an insanely good lob point guard, ayton would turn into a nightly 25 point guy and the kick outs to booker wide open would only see his percentage go up. Based on the last 8 games in the bubble add in cp3 and you have the suns which i can easily see as a top 4 team in the west. Would represent in a nuggets type fashion. Not flashy or as big as the LA teams but they'd win a TON of games.
Yeah, we totally forget how CP3 started the lob city when he was still playing at Clippers with DeAndre and Griffin as receiver and even at Houston with Clint Capella. And now with Phoenix, DeAndre Ayton will be the beneficiary of this many lobs coming from CP3 and I'm sure Phoenix will love to see this every game.
It looks like the Suns will be going to use Booker only in the shooting guard position for the next season.
It should be. Booker is way better as a Shooting Guard rather than making plays.
Others might see Chris Paul isn't a good addition to their team but I see another way around. CP3 will surely a big help for setting up Booker in his favorite area, the three-point line. Not just that, CP3 might also be the key for making good plays at the paint with DeAndre Ayton.
Remember the last time Phoenix was in the spotlight? They have a good point guard, a center, and a bunch of perimeter shooters. Not that good as before (due to bench players) but has a chance to make it happen again.
I agree. This would be the best team for cp3 to be on. He is an insanely good lob point guard, ayton would turn into a nightly 25 point guy and the kick outs to booker wide open would only see his percentage go up. Based on the last 8 games in the bubble add in cp3 and you have the suns which i can easily see as a top 4 team in the west. Would represent in a nuggets type fashion. Not flashy or as big as the LA teams but they'd win a TON of games.
It looks like the Suns will be going to use Booker only in the shooting guard position for the next season.
It should be. Booker is way better as a Shooting Guard rather than making plays.
Others might see Chris Paul isn't a good addition to their team but I see another way around. CP3 will surely a big help for setting up Booker in his favorite area, the three-point line. Not just that, CP3 might also be the key for making good plays at the paint with DeAndre Ayton.
Remember the last time Phoenix was in the spotlight? They have a good point guard, a center, and a bunch of perimeter shooters. Not that good as before (due to bench players) but has a chance to make it happen again.
Let's see how Steve Nash will work for it. I just hope their good role players who played at their best when their superstars are not there will also be utilized too.
Dinwiddie will be the key factor.
Let the freaking 2 injury stars take their rest and just play 20 minutes per game and stay with the roleplayers chemistry.
Nash should not lean with KD and Kyrie.
Stretch on using roleplayers because they are really good.
Allen, LeVert, Harris. Those names are now known with their hard work and efforts in playoffs.
It's not a tough competition in the East, so Durant and Kyrie can play with limited minutes without worrying on the team's standing. They just have their best player back in the game, that's a confidence booster for the team even though he is playing with limited minutes only.
But with changes and circumstances, it's very well understood.
Correct. Should not be a problem as NBA do have limited time for their usual activities.
Unfortunate that those rookies won't experienced playing on their supposed 1st All-Star game. They will come back instead next season as sophomores.
All-Star break will turned into usual break, no game schedule, no practice, no entertainment, but for conditioning purposes.
Let's see how Steve Nash will work for it. I just hope their good role players who played at their best when their superstars are not there will also be utilized too.
Dinwiddie will be the key factor.
Let the freaking 2 injury stars take their rest and just play 20 minutes per game and stay with the roleplayers chemistry.
Nash should not lean with KD and Kyrie.
Stretch on using roleplayers because they are really good.
Allen, LeVert, Harris. Those names are now known with their hard work and efforts in playoffs.
Anyway, I saw the news that there will be no all-star game.
Yes, I saw it too but they give a 5-day All-Star break.
So basically, instead of doing an All-Star game on that 5 day period, they will give it to players as their resting period. Not bad though.
But with changes and circumstances, it's very well understood.
Anyway, I saw the news that there will be no all-star game.
Yes, I saw it too but they give a 5-day All-Star break.
So basically, instead of doing an All-Star game on that 5 day period, they will give it to players as their resting period. Not bad though.
Harden at Nets would be weird honestly, none of the stars there are team players, they are not like warriors share the ball kind of people, they are really just bunch of ISO players that takes million dribbles and then shoot.
Got the picture as I see it that way too. But Nets do now have lots of options and those 3 are deadly in the rainbow area.
Let's see how Steve Nash will work for it. I just hope their good role players who played at their best when their superstars are not there will also be utilized too.
^^ Maybe they can co-exist like the Blazers, like Lillard and McCollum. Or Paul with handle the ball all the time as their point guard and Booker as more on the scoring side and it will also take a lot from his shoulder the distribution load. So we might see Booker scoring advantage for next season increase by some margins. As compare to Harden and Westbrook who are pure scorer so it's really hard to put them on the same team.
For the suns to gamble in that trade, they really see something that could help their team, CP3 is not getting any younger while they release a young players in exchange for him. Suns is not going to be a shitty team no more, they have build their dou now with Paul and Booker, I'm hoping both of them will stay healthy so we can see their potential working together in the court. This trade was kinda questionable for me since the ones they are trading for Chris Paul are players who actually contributed a lot for their success in the bubble. I don't know if this is their idea of keeping Booker but what they did on trading 1 aging star in exchange for some of their best players I don't think this will help them have a better team. For me they should have went with another trade where they will be trading there draft pick plus another player in order to get a star.
Why people are now comparing about Leonard and Lebron? Kawhi is good but i dont see that he would really level up with Lebron in terms of statistics and achievements.
When it comes on carrying the team then thats an another topic to discuss on and as mentioned where all these things cant really be attained without the help of your team mates.
You might be a playmaker or does have the skills but proper coordination and teamwork would be the key to win or success.
For us fans it's normal to have discussions like this, it's a healthy discussion. When it comes on carrying the team then thats an another topic to discuss on and as mentioned where all these things cant really be attained without the help of your team mates.
You might be a playmaker or does have the skills but proper coordination and teamwork would be the key to win or success.
But he's right that stats don't lie but I'm saying that they are good at their individual skills. No doubt that Lebron's achievement is more than Kawhi has but I don't neglect the achievement of Kawhi too, he's also a great player the same as Lebron.
I appreciate him as a player and the same as others. Anyway, I saw the news that there will be no all-star game.
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