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Quote from: Bttzed03 on November 12, 2020, 12:08:33 PM

So I just read the rumor that Kahwi is recruiting CP3 to go back to Clippers. Welp, not particularly a bad move but it will come at a price and it won't be cheap. They will probably have to let go of Lou Williams as part of the trade and some of the other guys. I am not surprised with the growing interest from other teams to land CP3, he really did well last season. Joining Kahwi and Paul is probably his best chance to win a title.

Even at his age, CP3 could still be a good compliment to any starts specially with the likes of Kawhi. But yes, it won't come in cheap, if Clippers decided to get back CP3 as it might cause a shake up on their starting five. Probably, CP3 and Kawhi will fit, but not sure about PG though, he is inconsistent and after his Pacers days, he is still good but somehow fell short with any other good team mates.

I can't agree with you on that, I think we should appreciate what Paul George contributed to the OKC Thunder, he was even nominated as a candidate for regular season at one point, I think people have seen that.

I think we could really appreciate if he and WB brings the OKC to the finals during that time. But they didn't, they fall to the Portland Trailblazers. If we go with your argument, when we will have to appreciate a lot of players during the Jordan era who will short because Jordan takes them one by one. Barkley become the regular NBA MVP, brings Phoenix to the finals but lost to Jordan.

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In other words, can't wait for the new season to start! Cool

That, I understand. Grin

About CP3 joining the Clippers. It is possible.
But that means letting go of some key players.
Montrezl Harrell (UFA)
Lou Williams still got 1 year. (correct me if I'm wrong)
Just imagine letting go of 2 winners of the "6th man of the year". No way. That's like the MVP for bench players.

I don't think that's the real issue behind the Clippers team. Something bad happened that we don't see.
Might be locker room issues. Even if they recruit CP3, it won't change a thing if that issue remains.

If there's someone would leave, I think they can let go of PG for CP3, but that would be so stupid since PG came from OKC, and no way he will go back their when he was already traded for Danilo Gallinari. A team that is full of stars is not anymore needed with the Clippers as they already have Kawhi Leonard who is proven a legit superstar that could carry a team.

Yes, probably a one on one trade but PG on OKC again? Clippers is already talent laden, what they need is chemistry, they have Leonard already, a team leader but with no cohesion it will be very difficult for team to reach the western finals. So let's see if they can proved us wrong, Leonard-PG tandem can match the best duo team in the league, it's just the other pieces are very inconsistent.

Well, PG is consistent with the OKC, but his performance decline with the Clippers.

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Quote from: Botnake on November 13, 2020, 03:39:41 AM

Quote from: Reid on November 13, 2020, 03:34:03 AM

Quote from: morvillz7z on November 12, 2020, 07:51:54 PM

In other words, can't wait for the new season to start! Cool

That, I understand. Grin

About CP3 joining the Clippers. It is possible.
But that means letting go of some key players.
Montrezl Harrell (UFA)
Lou Williams still got 1 year. (correct me if I'm wrong)
Just imagine letting go of 2 winners of the "6th man of the year". No way. That's like the MVP for bench players.

I don't think that's the real issue behind the Clippers team. Something bad happened that we don't see.
Might be locker room issues. Even if they recruit CP3, it won't change a thing if that issue remains.

If there's someone would leave, I think they can let go of PG for CP3, but that would be so stupid since PG came from OKC, and no way he will go back their when he was already traded for Danilo Gallinari. A team that is full of stars is not anymore needed with the Clippers as they already have Kawhi Leonard who is proven a legit superstar that could carry a team.

Yes, probably a one on one trade but PG on OKC again? Clippers is already talent laden, what they need is chemistry, they have Leonard already, a team leader but with no cohesion it will be very difficult for team to reach the western finals. So let's see if they can proved us wrong, Leonard-PG tandem can match the best duo team in the league, it's just the other pieces are very inconsistent.

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Quote from: Reid on November 13, 2020, 03:34:03 AM

Quote from: morvillz7z on November 12, 2020, 07:51:54 PM

In other words, can't wait for the new season to start! Cool

That, I understand. Grin

About CP3 joining the Clippers. It is possible.
But that means letting go of some key players.
Montrezl Harrell (UFA)
Lou Williams still got 1 year. (correct me if I'm wrong)
Just imagine letting go of 2 winners of the "6th man of the year". No way. That's like the MVP for bench players.

I don't think that's the real issue behind the Clippers team. Something bad happened that we don't see.
Might be locker room issues. Even if they recruit CP3, it won't change a thing if that issue remains.

If there's someone would leave, I think they can let go of PG for CP3, but that would be so stupid since PG came from OKC, and no way he will go back their when he was already traded for Danilo Gallinari. A team that is full of stars is not anymore needed with the Clippers as they already have Kawhi Leonard who is proven a legit superstar that could carry a team.

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Quote from: morvillz7z on November 12, 2020, 07:51:54 PM

In other words, can't wait for the new season to start! Cool

That, I understand. Grin

About CP3 joining the Clippers. It is possible.
But that means letting go of some key players.
Montrezl Harrell (UFA)
Lou Williams still got 1 year. (correct me if I'm wrong)
Just imagine letting go of 2 winners of the "6th man of the year". No way. That's like the MVP for bench players.

I don't think that's the real issue behind the Clippers team. Something bad happened that we don't see.
Might be locker room issues. Even if they recruit CP3, it won't change a thing if that issue remains.

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Quote from: btc_angela on November 13, 2020, 02:28:09 AM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on November 12, 2020, 12:08:33 PM

So I just read the rumor that Kahwi is recruiting CP3 to go back to Clippers. Welp, not particularly a bad move but it will come at a price and it won't be cheap. They will probably have to let go of Lou Williams as part of the trade and some of the other guys. I am not surprised with the growing interest from other teams to land CP3, he really did well last season. Joining Kahwi and Paul is probably his best chance to win a title.

Even at his age, CP3 could still be a good compliment to any starts specially with the likes of Kawhi. But yes, it won't come in cheap, if Clippers decided to get back CP3 as it might cause a shake up on their starting five. Probably, CP3 and Kawhi will fit, but not sure about PG though, he is inconsistent and after his Pacers days, he is still good but somehow fell short with any other good team mates.

I can't agree with you on that, I think we should appreciate what Paul George contributed to the OKC Thunder, he was even nominated as a candidate for regular season at one point, I think people have seen that.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on November 12, 2020, 12:08:33 PM

So I just read the rumor that Kahwi is recruiting CP3 to go back to Clippers. Welp, not particularly a bad move but it will come at a price and it won't be cheap. They will probably have to let go of Lou Williams as part of the trade and some of the other guys. I am not surprised with the growing interest from other teams to land CP3, he really did well last season. Joining Kahwi and Paul is probably his best chance to win a title.

Even at his age, CP3 could still be a good compliment to any starts specially with the likes of Kawhi. But yes, it won't come in cheap, if Clippers decided to get back CP3 as it might cause a shake up on their starting five. Probably, CP3 and Kawhi will fit, but not sure about PG though, he is inconsistent and after his Pacers days, he is still good but somehow fell short with any other good team mates.

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Nov. 18: 2020 NBA Draft
Nov. 20: Start of free agency
Dec. 1: Start date to begin training camps for 2020-21 season
Dec. 22: Opening night for 2020-21 season

source: ^ NBA timeline, key dates

Pretty condensed schedule the NBA has put up before the start of the season.
NCAA March Madness was canceled this spring and that's gonna make teams and GMs job at drafting young prospects a lot tougher.
Free agency starts just two days after the draft and teams would have around 10 days to make trades and sign free agents before training camps.
That's an absurdly short period of time, and i expect this to be a frenzy one with some shocking trades based on the rumors that we are all hearing right now.

In other words, can't wait for the new season to start! Cool

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Quote from: el kaka22 on November 12, 2020, 10:59:29 AM

Why did he moved to Rockets and wanted to play with Harden if he wants out so quickly, what was he expecting when he got there?

As usual, a better roster for his championship goal. However, it got failed.

It's clear that Westbrook stated before that he might play for the Rockets for only 1 season. But still, the Rockets give him a good long-term contract. From what I observed, the Rockets want to retain Westbrook for a long. But since Westbrook shared the same role with Harden, maybe he thinks his talent might be good to other teams instead.

But because of limited time in the off-season, I doubt that a trade involving Westbrook will happen before the start of the NBA season.

I think Westbrook's contract was still the same with the OKC as he was traded to the Rockets, he will only be signed if they will keep him until the contract will expire, Rockets are paying westbrooks contract based on what he signed with OKC but when he will be traded, they will have no obligation to it but only to the players that they would acquire in exchange to him.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on November 12, 2020, 10:59:29 AM

Why did he moved to Rockets and wanted to play with Harden if he wants out so quickly, what was he expecting when he got there?

As usual, a better roster for his championship goal. However, it got failed.

It's clear that Westbrook stated before that he might play for the Rockets for only 1 season. But still, the Rockets give him a good long-term contract. From what I observed, the Rockets want to retain Westbrook for a long. But since Westbrook shared the same role with Harden, maybe he thinks his talent might be good to other teams instead.

But because of limited time in the off-season, I doubt that a trade involving Westbrook will happen before the start of the NBA season.

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Quote from: harizen on November 12, 2020, 01:30:20 AM

Russell Westbrook wants out of Houston

A good move for me by both parties. Westbrook likes to have a similar role that he holds for a long time in OKC.

But I don't know how it will be granted by the Rockets since "correct me if I'm wrong", Westbrook is under contract and will just have a player option in 2022.

There's nothing he can do if he wants to be out of Rockets.

But if he really does and he insists to be out, we know that there will be legal matters for it. But it seems that they will be on fire and has to get the belt for the next season if he really does want out.

Players and managements always settled things out once there's already a gap between them, if he wanted to move and be traded the management have other options in doing it.

He can be traded or he'll if there's none valuable offer for him, for now he needs to work and help the team as he's been pid in doing so.

The management needs to wait for whoever teams who like to have him and can provide enticing
or acceptable offer to bring him out from his current holder.

Basing of into this article that he's currently owed $132.6 million over the next three seasons
Source: https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/russell-westbrook-trade-rumors-five-possible-destinations-for-seemingly-unmovable-rockets-star/

Arrangement can really be possibly done if he do insist but the question is, would be there someone to trade up? Usually contracts need to be finished first before you can jump out unless
if the other team will settle up on the remaining.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on November 12, 2020, 10:59:29 AM

Why did he moved to Rockets and wanted to play with Harden if he wants out so quickly, what was he expecting when he got there?

Maybe he saw that their tandem would not work, they finish with a bad record last playoffs and they don't want to see that.

With OKC, he was traded, it was the OKC's decision to git rid of him IMO as they got a better offer for trade with is CP3 which is despite playing well with the Rockets but still get's traded because Harden doesn't want to play with him anymore, and now, look what happened to the Lakers when Paul leave, they wasted a real PG which brings the team to the WCF couple of times.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on November 12, 2020, 12:08:33 PM

So I just read the rumor that Kahwi is recruiting CP3 to go back to Clippers. Welp, not particularly a bad move but it will come at a price and it won't be cheap. They will probably have to let go of Lou Williams as part of the trade and some of the other guys. I am not surprised with the growing interest from other teams to land CP3, he really did well last season. Joining Kahwi and Paul is probably his best chance to win a title.

Clippers might do what's necessary and will take into the account of acquiring CP3 if that's what Kawhi wants and sees a good addition to the team. A trade is likely or if not, they have to pay whatever is the cost. But that's going to be a strong addition and tandem if that's what Kawhi wants. How many times did Kawhi had some rumors like this? the act that he's choosing the players he want to be with his team.

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Quote from: boyptc on November 12, 2020, 11:52:10 AM

Quote from: harizen on November 12, 2020, 01:30:20 AM

Russell Westbrook wants out of Houston

A good move for me by both parties. Westbrook likes to have a similar role that he holds for a long time in OKC.

But I don't know how it will be granted by the Rockets since "correct me if I'm wrong", Westbrook is under contract and will just have a player option in 2022.

There's nothing he can do if he wants to be out of Rockets.

But if he really does and he insists to be out, we know that there will be legal matters for it. But it seems that they will be on fire and has to get the belt for the next season if he really does want out.

Players and managements always settled things out once there's already a gap between them, if he wanted to move and be traded the management have other options in doing it.

He can be traded or he'll if there's none valuable offer for him, for now he needs to work and help the team as he's been pid in doing so.

The management needs to wait for whoever teams who like to have him and can provide enticing
or acceptable offer to bring him out from his current holder.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on November 12, 2020, 12:08:33 PM

So I just read the rumor that Kahwi is recruiting CP3 to go back to Clippers. Welp, not particularly a bad move but it will come at a price and it won't be cheap. They will probably have to let go of Lou Williams as part of the trade and some of the other guys. I am not surprised with the growing interest from other teams to land CP3, he really did well last season. Joining Kahwi and Paul is probably his best chance to win a title.

CP3 is a good player but something is just wrong about Paul George. No offense, I like the guy playing but something is wrong with him ALWAYS during playoffs. Its good that he is honest but he cost Kawhi another shot at a finals appearance. They are also recruiting CP3 to at least win a championship because he absolutely deserves it because some news appearing that he ain't a good player but its a bad news about him.

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So I just read the rumor that Kahwi is recruiting CP3 to go back to Clippers. Welp, not particularly a bad move but it will come at a price and it won't be cheap. They will probably have to let go of Lou Williams as part of the trade and some of the other guys. I am not surprised with the growing interest from other teams to land CP3, he really did well last season. Joining Kahwi and Paul is probably his best chance to win a title.

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Quote from: harizen on November 12, 2020, 01:30:20 AM

Russell Westbrook wants out of Houston

A good move for me by both parties. Westbrook likes to have a similar role that he holds for a long time in OKC.

But I don't know how it will be granted by the Rockets since "correct me if I'm wrong", Westbrook is under contract and will just have a player option in 2022.

There's nothing he can do if he wants to be out of Rockets.

But if he really does and he insists to be out, we know that there will be legal matters for it. But it seems that they will be on fire and has to get the belt for the next season if he really does want out.

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Quote from: freedomgo on November 12, 2020, 03:24:18 AM

They have struggled a lot since they let go of Capella, he was a legit Center of the Rockets and without big, they were abuse by the Lakers who are playing with big players on the floor, I wish they will realize that mistake too, not only changing the plays but adding a legit center as well.

That's true.
It's still different when you have a big man on the team.
I was really amazed at how Harden could make good plays with pick and roll feeding Capella.
It was a bad deal trading him.

Quote from: el kaka22 on November 12, 2020, 10:59:29 AM

I don't know what type of situation he could get at this stage of his career, he is a good player, all-star level but he won't be traded to a team that will fight for a title, he has a huge amount of contract and in order to eat that much salary a team has to trade another star, and not many teams would be willing to give their stars for westbrook right now.

I am not sure about the reason but one of my speculations is after Daryl Morey stepped down.
He made the deal putting WB in Rockets. So yeah, there must be a link to that.

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Why did he moved to Rockets and wanted to play with Harden if he wants out so quickly, what was he expecting when he got there? He was a good player for a great team at OKC when Durant was there, he was a leader of a bad team when Durant left, and now he was a good player in a good team so he was in best of the worlds both being superstar of a team that could make it to finals if they are lucky with seeding.

I don't know what type of situation he could get at this stage of his career, he is a good player, all-star level but he won't be traded to a team that will fight for a title, he has a huge amount of contract and in order to eat that much salary a team has to trade another star, and not many teams would be willing to give their stars for westbrook right now.

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Quote from: Reid on November 12, 2020, 02:59:04 AM

Quote from: harizen on November 12, 2020, 01:30:20 AM

Russell Westbrook wants out of Houston

A good move for me by both parties. Westbrook likes to have a similar role that he holds for a long time in OKC.

But I don't know how it will be granted by the Rockets since "correct me if I'm wrong", Westbrook is under contract and will just have a player option in 2022.

Yes, that's correct. Player option at 2022-2023.
That means he will need to play through this season first.
Also, to endure what is Silas proposing.
It is said in the article that there will be "tweaks" in their plays. "Tweak" is not the right word for me. More like "overhaul".
He wants to change the isolation plays that are Harden and WB specialties. It will be a huge change for the whole team.
They are just not used to it. Grin

Hopefully we would see some major improvement of the team this coming new season.

They have struggled a lot since they let go of Capella, he was a legit Center of the Rockets and without big, they were abuse by the Lakers who are playing with big players on the floor, I wish they will realize that mistake too, not only changing the plays but adding a legit center as well.

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