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February 27, 2020, 01:56:01 AM
If zion has the career most people expect, than it will be one of those games they replay as one older great versus a new up and coming great.  Zion definately looks good to this point.  He is already dominating the court at times and he really hasn't even gotten his feet wet yet.  Would love to see them make the playoffs just for the fun of it.

I don't know if you all know this site but gotta share it here.

They have these predictions and if you will be looking at it, there is a 60% chance of Pelicans to go to the Playoffs but less than 1% of winning the NBA Finals. I don't know anything about this but do you agree? PS. I do not own or advertise this site, I just saw it while browsing Zion and Lebron's game.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-nba-predictions/pelicans/

60% chance to make the playoffs...I think that is too high, and they should be less than 100-1 or 1%, I'm thinking 250-1 to win the chip.  They need about 2 years to really start competing.  They have a decent core now.  Now they have to build on that and add people like miami added ray allen, those type of role players that can put you over the top to win it.  Zion is good but way too young to lead them down a treacherous western part of the playoffs.

As long as there is a chance, I would not loss my faith on the Pelicans to reach in the playoffs this season.
Thy are young and they are hungry of course they can do this if they will just trust Zion even if he is only 19 years old.




We can see the real tight competition above.

I bet Pelicans would advance.
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February 27, 2020, 12:41:40 AM
If zion has the career most people expect, than it will be one of those games they replay as one older great versus a new up and coming great.  Zion definately looks good to this point.  He is already dominating the court at times and he really hasn't even gotten his feet wet yet.  Would love to see them make the playoffs just for the fun of it.

I don't know if you all know this site but gotta share it here.

They have these predictions and if you will be looking at it, there is a 60% chance of Pelicans to go to the Playoffs but less than 1% of winning the NBA Finals. I don't know anything about this but do you agree? PS. I do not own or advertise this site, I just saw it while browsing Zion and Lebron's game.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-nba-predictions/pelicans/

60% chance to make the playoffs...I think that is too high, and they should be less than 100-1 or 1%, I'm thinking 250-1 to win the chip.  They need about 2 years to really start competing.  They have a decent core now.  Now they have to build on that and add people like miami added ray allen, those type of role players that can put you over the top to win it.  Zion is good but way too young to lead them down a treacherous western part of the playoffs.
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February 26, 2020, 11:41:40 PM

I am not sure what is the rank of the Sixers in terms of 3 point shooting as a team, but I believe they are not in the top 10 as their offense is more focus on  the inside, if they only have Reddick, they could have been a big threat in the outside but Horford would not land to the sixers, it's really hard to choose but I believe they prefer to have this kind of play right now, besides they are doing pretty well at home.
I am not sure also but I doubt they will be at the top 10 of that list. Maybe somewhere between 15-20th rank.
The numbers of threes they shoot ain't that high, their plays are more on inside and perimeter shots. Mostly, Embiid plays.
It works so they stick with it.


Others will leave but the original big 3 will stay, when Curry, Thompson, and Green plays together, they can beat any team in the NBA, warriors just needs to keep these 3, give them the best amount of salary and Warriors will once again a championship contender team as long as they are healthy.
It is good to hear but that is the main problem of this team.
Once 1 of the splash brothers is out the offense is getting worse.
Roleplayers is also needed. I mean, look at Lakers, they have stacks of roleplayers just sitting on the bench.  Grin
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February 26, 2020, 09:09:14 PM
If zion has the career most people expect, than it will be one of those games they replay as one older great versus a new up and coming great.  Zion definately looks good to this point.  He is already dominating the court at times and he really hasn't even gotten his feet wet yet.  Would love to see them make the playoffs just for the fun of it.

I don't know if you all know this site but gotta share it here.

They have these predictions and if you will be looking at it, there is a 60% chance of Pelicans to go to the Playoffs but less than 1% of winning the NBA Finals. I don't know anything about this but do you agree? PS. I do not own or advertise this site, I just saw it while browsing Zion and Lebron's game.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-nba-predictions/pelicans/
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February 26, 2020, 08:30:38 PM
Zion is a special player according to Lebron James.

LeBron James details why Zion Williamson is perfect for today’s NBA game

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“The kid is special,” LeBron told Chris Haynes of Yahoo Sports. “In today’s game, where it’s a track race, it’s fast-paced, it’s high tempo, it fits his game perfectly. And the way they did play, it fits his game perfectly.”


I am so hyped by this matchup not because I want to support the other but because I want to watch how one of the greatest player play against a rising star of NBA and how would they react to one another since Lebron said that he never met Zion in the past. I also read this article and for me this is amazing. This game does prove that Zion has a long way to go, but I hope that he could live with the hype since a lot of first picks did not really live to the hype as a first pick.

If zion has the career most people expect, than it will be one of those games they replay as one older great versus a new up and coming great.  Zion definately looks good to this point.  He is already dominating the court at times and he really hasn't even gotten his feet wet yet.  Would love to see them make the playoffs just for the fun of it.
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February 26, 2020, 07:54:13 PM
Zion is a special player according to Lebron James.

LeBron James details why Zion Williamson is perfect for today’s NBA game

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“The kid is special,” LeBron told Chris Haynes of Yahoo Sports. “In today’s game, where it’s a track race, it’s fast-paced, it’s high tempo, it fits his game perfectly. And the way they did play, it fits his game perfectly.”


I am so hyped by this matchup not because I want to support the other but because I want to watch how one of the greatest player play against a rising star of NBA and how would they react to one another since Lebron said that he never met Zion in the past. I also read this article and for me this is amazing. This game does prove that Zion has a long way to go, but I hope that he could live with the hype since a lot of first picks did not really live to the hype as a first pick.
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February 26, 2020, 07:53:23 PM
But I will agree with you with trading draymond since this year he has been unmasked since he can't contribute well without steph and klay on the court maybe the warriors should think about that while draymond still got a trade value.
Trading Draymond is a bad idea, we can't evaluate the performance of the Warriors now because there's no Curry and No Thompson.
When curry was still playing this season, Draymond was very effective, and he has been part of the many success the Warriors have experience, don't worry, Warriors will be back next season.
It would be much better if other player would be traded off rather than Draymond.I agree and we have seen on how this player performs on inside paint when it comes to defense
and also capable on scoring. Theres no chance for them to get in into the playoffs and i heard of that Curry would be back into the court.This might not be the season for
them but lets see if they can make a comeback on next season.

There are rumors that he will comeback this season but he doesn't need to do that he needs to sit out the whole season to fully recover, their team doesn't need to prove anything since provably they cannot take the playoff spot this year.

And also I don't know which player got more valuable piece to get a high caliber player and although draymond is really helpful in the organization still they need to revamp their rooster to get a better rooster on next season.
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February 26, 2020, 07:45:53 PM
But I will agree with you with trading draymond since this year he has been unmasked since he can't contribute well without steph and klay on the court maybe the warriors should think about that while draymond still got a trade value.
Trading Draymond is a bad idea, we can't evaluate the performance of the Warriors now because there's no Curry and No Thompson.
When curry was still playing this season, Draymond was very effective, and he has been part of the many success the Warriors have experience, don't worry, Warriors will be back next season.
It would be much better if other player would be traded off rather than Draymond.I agree and we have seen on how this player performs on inside paint when it comes to defense
and also capable on scoring. Theres no chance for them to get in into the playoffs and i heard of that Curry would be back into the court.This might not be the season for
them but lets see if they can make a comeback on next season.
Draymond has been very vital on the Warriors success, remember before during the NBA finals that when he was suspended one game against the Cavaliers and that is the big reason why the Cavaliers came back and win that championship, if Draymond was there, Warriors will certainly win that game.
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February 26, 2020, 07:36:30 PM
But I will agree with you with trading draymond since this year he has been unmasked since he can't contribute well without steph and klay on the court maybe the warriors should think about that while draymond still got a trade value.
Trading Draymond is a bad idea, we can't evaluate the performance of the Warriors now because there's no Curry and No Thompson.
When curry was still playing this season, Draymond was very effective, and he has been part of the many success the Warriors have experience, don't worry, Warriors will be back next season.
It would be much better if other player would be traded off rather than Draymond.I agree and we have seen on how this player performs on inside paint when it comes to defense
and also capable on scoring. Theres no chance for them to get in into the playoffs and i heard of that Curry would be back into the court.This might not be the season for
them but lets see if they can make a comeback on next season.
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February 26, 2020, 07:34:37 PM
I still do not understand why people think Ben Simmons is a start that makes so much difference to that team. Dude is a 16 point player with ZERO three point talent and just scores around the rim all the time, he has some rebounding and assist talents which I can understand why makes him more valuable but this dude was compared to Giannis when he first came into the league and was wondering which one would be the next Lebron.

Giannis now has an MVP and leading the first seed as the best player whereas Simmons is not even the best player on his own team. Even if the dude misses the whole season I am sure Sixers would be fine, not saying they will go to finals or anything without him but they can achieve almost everything they could have achieved with him now, he is not THAT big of a deal if you ask me.

They would not be fine, he runs the team.  If you look at Chris Paul's stats you wouldn't think much of him (I'm not comparing the 2) but stats arent everything.  Simmons is a key piece to this teams success.  Would be nice if he could drop a 3 every now and again (its laughable at this point) but he has the keys to the offense.
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February 26, 2020, 07:22:50 PM
But I will agree with you with trading draymond since this year he has been unmasked since he can't contribute well without steph and klay on the court maybe the warriors should think about that while draymond still got a trade value.
Trading Draymond is a bad idea, we can't evaluate the performance of the Warriors now because there's no Curry and No Thompson.
When curry was still playing this season, Draymond was very effective, and he has been part of the many success the Warriors have experience, don't worry, Warriors will be back next season.
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February 26, 2020, 07:06:27 PM

 I know warriors won a lot of rings with the original trio and I know it would probably be the worst look for any franchise in the history of NBA, but if we are looking at things as "business" I would probably try to trade Draymond Green if I was warriors. Dude used to be amazing and he was a dpoy type of player and he was the main piece that allowed warriors to be a small ball line up etc etc. However he got worse and worse every single year, nowadays I really think he is not needed to be champions. They now have curry - klay - Wiggins which could be better trio or worse I wouldn't know, they could send Wiggins and get another player, but if they could land a top pick for Draymond they should seriously consider that option. Dude is aging and getting fatter again and he can't shoot threes anymore for some reason and his defense is not at its old level so getting anything for him now would be ideal time, if they wait a bit more he will just be a veteran who gets paid a ton of money for what did once upon a time and not getting paid for what he brings to the table at that time.

 Like I said that would be a franchise killer and would be a horrible look for warriors and %100 they are not doing it, but if they did they would potentially become a lot better as a team with a player who is actually good. Wiseman for draymond would be an ideal trade for them that would make them a lot better for example.

The only problem what I see for the warriors is they don't have a legitimate center that can dominate inside the court and they miss to have Drummond for the past trade and got Wiggins which we know for his softness although this year his gameplay rise up but let see if he could be a perfect fit when klay and steph will get back in court since for sure his minutes will lessen.

But I will agree with you with trading draymond since this year he has been unmasked since he can't contribute well without steph and klay on the court maybe the warriors should think about that while draymond still got a trade value.
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February 26, 2020, 06:47:27 PM
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By the way, Steph Curry is expected to play on Sunday. He is surely missed by his followers. Hope no injuries for him this time.
I just read about this. I cannot blame him for wanting to play but the season is over for the Warriors and I prefer that he just rest and prepare for the next season to avoid further injuries. Kerr should just limit his minutes if the main reason to make Steph play is for fans entertainment.

Does NBA have a rule now against teams not letting their healthy players suit up for the game (i.e. load management)?

Once a player cleared from their injury and declared as already fit to play, they should have played no matter what. They are paid players so even they prefer to rest and that's a good strategy for a team, it won't happen. If that's allowed, I think every superstar will now rest whenever they want especially if their team already clinch their preferred spot on the playoffs. And I also think that Chase Arena needs a boost on ticket sales lol.

About the load management, yeah NBA isn't strict on that. By rules, healthy players should play but teams always came up with back-up excuses that's why they are getting away with it.

So what are your comment about lebron's recruiting some high caliber players to join his team and he repeatedly doing this wherever he landed?

Recruiting is different from team signing. LeBron is not a GM that even if he likes Michael Jordan to be a teammate, it will happen right away. If you are talking about Anthony Davis, it's his own decision to join LeBron and not just because the latter recruited him. Pelicans didn't find a way to support AD and it leads to that decision. And LeBron isn't the only one that recruits AD. Maybe not in news but it's impossible that no other players reached him when he announced he will leave the Pelicans unless he already shows a sign that he will join LeBron prior to the announcement.

Players do have their own will even they are being recruited by a certain player. If LeBron successfully landed some of his recruits (much better if you can give examples) then they want to play with LeBron. These players aren't forced.

Can we just move on with that common rant I always read from people that dislike LeBron? Don't get me wrong here as I'm not his fan.
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February 26, 2020, 06:03:19 PM

 I know warriors won a lot of rings with the original trio and I know it would probably be the worst look for any franchise in the history of NBA, but if we are looking at things as "business" I would probably try to trade Draymond Green if I was warriors. Dude used to be amazing and he was a dpoy type of player and he was the main piece that allowed warriors to be a small ball line up etc etc. However he got worse and worse every single year, nowadays I really think he is not needed to be champions. They now have curry - klay - Wiggins which could be better trio or worse I wouldn't know, they could send Wiggins and get another player, but if they could land a top pick for Draymond they should seriously consider that option. Dude is aging and getting fatter again and he can't shoot threes anymore for some reason and his defense is not at its old level so getting anything for him now would be ideal time, if they wait a bit more he will just be a veteran who gets paid a ton of money for what did once upon a time and not getting paid for what he brings to the table at that time.

 Like I said that would be a franchise killer and would be a horrible look for warriors and %100 they are not doing it, but if they did they would potentially become a lot better as a team with a player who is actually good. Wiseman for draymond would be an ideal trade for them that would make them a lot better for example.
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February 26, 2020, 01:02:52 PM
I guess is Lebron getting whoever he wants to play to his team is an issue of Lebron or is it an issue of the front office? They see Lebron and they think they can't land any player that is better than him so they try to do whatever he asks to keep him there but we have seen time and time after again that dude has no loyalty to any team forever and will eventually leave you if he just wants to, yet front offices ruin their whole futures just to keep him happy.

Cavs are still in big debt even after 2 years of him gone, that is literally the wreck he left behind, so maybe front offices shouldn't have given him all he wanted. Lebron is just a player who looks at this like a business and if he can influence teams to get the best players he would want to play he would do that, I would do that, who wouldn't want to play with amazing teammates.
Let us stop the hate.
Jordan left Chicago for baseball and then back. Then came back once again to play for Washington Wizards.
Same goes for Pippen, Shaq, and a lot more stars out there.

They are traded for some reason.
They also have managers which makes the deals.
Players cannot just say I want this and that without confronting their managers or it could wreck their whole career.

It is Lebron and he might say he want something to happen but it doesn't mean it will always come true.
There is no Santa in NBA.  Grin
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February 26, 2020, 12:55:04 PM
I guess is Lebron getting whoever he wants to play to his team is an issue of Lebron or is it an issue of the front office? They see Lebron and they think they can't land any player that is better than him so they try to do whatever he asks to keep him there but we have seen time and time after again that dude has no loyalty to any team forever and will eventually leave you if he just wants to, yet front offices ruin their whole futures just to keep him happy.

Cavs are still in big debt even after 2 years of him gone, that is literally the wreck he left behind, so maybe front offices shouldn't have given him all he wanted. Lebron is just a player who looks at this like a business and if he can influence teams to get the best players he would want to play he would do that, I would do that, who wouldn't want to play with amazing teammates.

He may not be loyal to any team but he is loyal to basketball. Unlike other players where they stay committed to one team Lebron is actually the one moving up when he knows that team is going nowhere. That's what he learned during his first time in Cleveland before joining Miami, it really change him that loyalty for a team is enough for him to multiple championships. It's not his fault that he desires to win  and be the best player. Also I think teams right now are aware of his loyalty that's why they are always making the best out if his contract in order for them to also win a Championship.
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February 26, 2020, 12:26:12 PM
I guess is Lebron getting whoever he wants to play to his team is an issue of Lebron or is it an issue of the front office? They see Lebron and they think they can't land any player that is better than him so they try to do whatever he asks to keep him there but we have seen time and time after again that dude has no loyalty to any team forever and will eventually leave you if he just wants to, yet front offices ruin their whole futures just to keep him happy.

Cavs are still in big debt even after 2 years of him gone, that is literally the wreck he left behind, so maybe front offices shouldn't have given him all he wanted. Lebron is just a player who looks at this like a business and if he can influence teams to get the best players he would want to play he would do that, I would do that, who wouldn't want to play with amazing teammates.
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February 26, 2020, 09:01:25 AM


So what are your comment about lebron's recruiting some high caliber players to join his team and he repeatedly doing this wherever he landed.

I hope you've realised LeBron isn't the GM that he could recruit a player as easy as 123. I'm sorry to say this, but that's a hater mentality right there.
You guys were thinking he can recruit any player he wants any time any where. But you guys failed to realize that there were actually NBA stars who wants to play with him.
Plus, LeBron had enough influence to the game that he could actually influence the front office's decisions as well.
That's how a certain management treat LeBron as a valuable piece of the franchise, that when he starts gets uncomfortable with his teammates, the front office will do adjustments and make trades if necessary.
Blame the Cavaliers management, blame the Lakers management for recruiting or trading players. Also, a player has the freedom to make decisions whether they sign to a certain team or not.
In any sports it's all about winning and they will do everything to win, even if in a certain team there are 5 stars, they'll allow that as long as they can pay the salary based on the salary cap, however, as a fans, we have different perception on what they are doing and personally, I don't admire Lebron's style but we got to respect the man, he is the king and until now at his age he still dominate.
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February 26, 2020, 07:50:24 AM


So what are your comment about lebron's recruiting some high caliber players to join his team and he repeatedly doing this wherever he landed.

I hope you've realised LeBron isn't the GM that he could recruit a player as easy as 123. I'm sorry to say this, but that's a hater mentality right there.
You guys were thinking he can recruit any player he wants any time any where. But you guys failed to realize that there were actually NBA stars who wants to play with him.
Plus, LeBron had enough influence to the game that he could actually influence the front office's decisions as well.
That's how a certain management treat LeBron as a valuable piece of the franchise, that when he starts gets uncomfortable with his teammates, the front office will do adjustments and make trades if necessary.
Blame the Cavaliers management, blame the Lakers management for recruiting or trading players. Also, a player has the freedom to make decisions whether they sign to a certain team or not.
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February 26, 2020, 07:34:16 AM
Zion is a special player according to Lebron James.

LeBron James details why Zion Williamson is perfect for today’s NBA game

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“The kid is special,” LeBron told Chris Haynes of Yahoo Sports. “In today’s game, where it’s a track race, it’s fast-paced, it’s high tempo, it fits his game perfectly. And the way they did play, it fits his game perfectly.”

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