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Quote from: Reid on October 26, 2020, 12:42:45 AM

About the CP3 trade.
This could be the reason for it not to happen.
Or let us just say a lower percentage for it to come true even with James capability to push it through.

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NBA rules state that, when trading for players that make as much money as Paul does, the acquiring team must send at least 80 percent of that salary back in the deal. Paul is set to make $41,358,814 next season, according to Spotrac. That means that the Lakers would need to send out $33,087,051. That is where this gets tough, because at present, the Lakers don't have that much salary on their books to trade. They currently have six players under contract for next season: LeBron James, Danny Green, Kyle Kuzma, Quinn Cook, Alex Caruso and Talen Horton-Tucker. They are awaiting official word on five player options as well: Anthony Davis, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Rajon Rondo are expected to opt-out, and are therefore untradeable, while Avery Bradley and JaVale McGee are expected to opt-in. That would make them tradeable.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/chris-paul-trade-rumors-how-a-dec-22-start-date-for-new-nba-season-could-prevent-possible-lakers-deal/

It's a question of money.
Management would not risk so many good players to be released for him. No offense.
Then, if they did take CP3, how much space will be left to fill the holes?

Possible Reid, and CP3 is not getting any younger, they will have to invest a lot on a player that is not already at his peak.
I think Lakers would just stay with the current roster, of course, some will leave but as long as they have James and Davis, they will make the others better.

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About the CP3 trade.
This could be the reason for it not to happen.
Or let us just say a lower percentage for it to come true even with James capability to push it through.

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NBA rules state that, when trading for players that make as much money as Paul does, the acquiring team must send at least 80 percent of that salary back in the deal. Paul is set to make $41,358,814 next season, according to Spotrac. That means that the Lakers would need to send out $33,087,051. That is where this gets tough, because at present, the Lakers don't have that much salary on their books to trade. They currently have six players under contract for next season: LeBron James, Danny Green, Kyle Kuzma, Quinn Cook, Alex Caruso and Talen Horton-Tucker. They are awaiting official word on five player options as well: Anthony Davis, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Rajon Rondo are expected to opt-out, and are therefore untradeable, while Avery Bradley and JaVale McGee are expected to opt-in. That would make them tradeable.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/chris-paul-trade-rumors-how-a-dec-22-start-date-for-new-nba-season-could-prevent-possible-lakers-deal/

It's a question of money.
Management would not risk so many good players to be released for him. No offense.
Then, if they did take CP3, how much space will be left to fill the holes?

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Quote from: Russlenat on October 25, 2020, 04:21:33 AM

The pandemic has really hurt the revenue of the NBA.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/259994/NBA-Missed-Revenue-Projections-By-

"NBA Missed Revenue Projections By $1.5 Billion"

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The NBA missed its revenue projections this season by $1.5 billion, sources told Tim Reynolds of The Associated Press.

The losses were due to a combination of the shutdown due to the pandemic, the cancellation of 171 regular-season games, completing the season without fans, and losing $200 million in a rift with the Chinese government.

There have been no decisions on finalizing the start of next season's schedule, though beginning the season in December as opposed to January or later could generate the league an extra $500 million in revenue.

The NBA is currently targeting a December 22nd start date, with a 72-game season.

I'm wondering what's their projection in the coming season, despite this news, I'm hoping that NBA will survive and continue to provide us entertainment.

I honestly think the NBA should make amends with China at this point if only to regain their lost Chinese revenue stream, there's no point in continuing this stance they had about this "Free Hong Kong" affair said by the Rockets GM now that the protests mostly died out, they should find a way to apologize/walk back to China without mentioning Hong Kong by name as the fury that'll come from US politicians from doing that will block the chances of that working.

It'll probably be in the form of "we'll give you special favors if you let us broadcast preseason games in your country". I don't know how the NBA would accomplish that in detail.

At pandemic levels, an extra $200 million of revenue is a big deal, especially considering how the NBA is trying to target $500 million for the immediate term.

It's not that just the NBA is losing here, China market as well could have accumulate billions in revenue lost, so both sides are suffering as well. And since Morey is gone, (the centre of this controversy), maybe it's time to heal the wounds. And we have one Chinese co-owner of an NBA team so there's so I think NBA will be back in China and maybe talks have been going around without our knowledge. There are people that can pull this off, I believed, and with the stakes so high specially with the pandemic around, maybe, just maybe we can see NBA games televised in China next season.

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Quote from: jossiel on October 25, 2020, 05:16:13 PM

But Lebron's performances and achievements can't ever be ignored.

Lebron will have a great chance to beat the NBA all-time points record in the next 2-3 seasons if he continues to play at the same level without serious injuries. So, nobody won't be going to ignore Lebron's achievements.

Who can ignore the greatness made by LeBron? For sure he will bet that records since for the last season he still prove that he still the king and LeBron spend million of dollars to make his body condition in every season so it's not a surprise and it's expected that he will surpass that record in 2-3 seasons, but hopefully he will not retire in that speculated season since for sure NBA will be boring without the king's presence.

If Kobe did not retire until he was really not the same guy, I don't think Lebron would do that.
He was playing his best season and bring a championship to the Lakers, I don't think deciding to retire is a good idea when he loves basketball so much.

Lebron is on a mission, he take care of his body so he can play more NBA seasons and break all the stats in the top, and by playing more that gave him more opportunity to make a history like he already did in this season. So what more to come when he still plays, he never gets old you know. Grin

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Quote from: jossiel on October 25, 2020, 05:16:13 PM

But Lebron's performances and achievements can't ever be ignored.

Lebron will have a great chance to beat the NBA all-time points record in the next 2-3 seasons if he continues to play at the same level without serious injuries. So, nobody won't be going to ignore Lebron's achievements.

Who can ignore the greatness made by LeBron? For sure he will bet that records since for the last season he still prove that he still the king and LeBron spend million of dollars to make his body condition in every season so it's not a surprise and it's expected that he will surpass that record in 2-3 seasons, but hopefully he will not retire in that speculated season since for sure NBA will be boring without the king's presence.

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Quote from: jossiel on October 25, 2020, 05:16:13 PM

But Lebron's performances and achievements can't ever be ignored.

Lebron will have a great chance to beat the NBA all-time points record in the next 2-3 seasons if he continues to play at the same level without serious injuries. So, nobody won't be going to ignore Lebron's achievements.

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Michael Jordan won 6 championships with several Hall of Famers. Scottie Pippen, Rodman and had other stellar players such as Kukoc, Paxson, Kerr, Grant, Cartwright, etc. He won every single one of those with Pippen too. I'm not saying MJ isn't the better player, because he is, but Lebron's championships were impressive. Let's not act like MJ didn't have help is all I'm saying.

Couldn't agree more.

Every champ has their tandem and helps from other veterans and good players. But if we are going to evaluate each of their individual performances still MJ is the best.

But Lebron's performances and achievements can't ever be ignored.

It was already in the heart and mind of the people, so even if we have a new player that is better than him, we still think that MJ is the best or the GOAT in the NBA, just like in boxing, we have Muhammad Ali which is the best though some think Manny Pacquioa is the greatest fighter of all time.

Yeah.

He's already stuck to our minds that he's the GOAT in NBA or in the sports of basketball. Nothing's gonna beat him as the GOAT and there's more for Lebron before he retires.

He could beat MJ in certain achievements but GOAT will always be the GOAT and it's just one guy or it depends on the standards of the majority of fans.

I don't know if during the era of MJ he has some haters as it seemed like everyone likes him, nowadays, we have haters, especially Lebron James haters that they could not see how great he is and special as a player, man is proving many times by winning championship in different teams.

Did MJ done that in his career?

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 25, 2020, 05:23:25 PM

Quote from: jossiel on October 25, 2020, 05:16:13 PM

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on October 25, 2020, 04:27:04 PM

Michael Jordan won 6 championships with several Hall of Famers. Scottie Pippen, Rodman and had other stellar players such as Kukoc, Paxson, Kerr, Grant, Cartwright, etc. He won every single one of those with Pippen too. I'm not saying MJ isn't the better player, because he is, but Lebron's championships were impressive. Let's not act like MJ didn't have help is all I'm saying.

Couldn't agree more.

Every champ has their tandem and helps from other veterans and good players. But if we are going to evaluate each of their individual performances still MJ is the best.

But Lebron's performances and achievements can't ever be ignored.

It was already in the heart and mind of the people, so even if we have a new player that is better than him, we still think that MJ is the best or the GOAT in the NBA, just like in boxing, we have Muhammad Ali which is the best though some think Manny Pacquioa is the greatest fighter of all time.

Yeah.

He's already stuck to our minds that he's the GOAT in NBA or in the sports of basketball. Nothing's gonna beat him as the GOAT and there's more for Lebron before he retires.

He could beat MJ in certain achievements but GOAT will always be the GOAT and it's just one guy or it depends on the standards of the majority of fans.

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Quote from: jossiel on October 25, 2020, 05:16:13 PM

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on October 25, 2020, 04:27:04 PM

Michael Jordan won 6 championships with several Hall of Famers. Scottie Pippen, Rodman and had other stellar players such as Kukoc, Paxson, Kerr, Grant, Cartwright, etc. He won every single one of those with Pippen too. I'm not saying MJ isn't the better player, because he is, but Lebron's championships were impressive. Let's not act like MJ didn't have help is all I'm saying.

Couldn't agree more.

Every champ has their tandem and helps from other veterans and good players. But if we are going to evaluate each of their individual performances still MJ is the best.

But Lebron's performances and achievements can't ever be ignored.

It was already in the heart and mind of the people, so even if we have a new player that is better than him, we still think that MJ is the best or the GOAT in the NBA, just like in boxing, we have Muhammad Ali which is the best though some think Manny Pacquioa is the greatest fighter of all time.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on October 25, 2020, 04:27:04 PM

Michael Jordan won 6 championships with several Hall of Famers. Scottie Pippen, Rodman and had other stellar players such as Kukoc, Paxson, Kerr, Grant, Cartwright, etc. He won every single one of those with Pippen too. I'm not saying MJ isn't the better player, because he is, but Lebron's championships were impressive. Let's not act like MJ didn't have help is all I'm saying.

Couldn't agree more.

Every champ has their tandem and helps from other veterans and good players. But if we are going to evaluate each of their individual performances still MJ is the best.

But Lebron's performances and achievements can't ever be ignored.

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Quote from: sana54210 on October 25, 2020, 03:40:13 PM

... there is no direct source that shows Lakers are interested in giving up too much for him or pay him too much.

That's why that speculation is just one of the rumors that others are following.

We can't expect much of official reports today since off-season just started. All we can see is the player's feedback, the author's view, etc on a certain rumor. Maybe we can see some progress either next month or late activities a few weeks before the start of the NBA 2020-21 season.

As for Chris Paul to Lakers, it's not that really alarming for me or can be considered as domination as it will cost them releasing good role players. Obviously, other teams should do their best too in terms of improving their roster this off-season.

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Quote from: harizen on October 25, 2020, 02:02:25 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on October 25, 2020, 04:21:33 AM

I'm wondering what's their projection in the coming season, despite this news, I'm hoping that NBA will survive and continue to provide us entertainment.

The NBA will survive. With these expected losses, I'm sure they have lots of plans currently discussing their tables even prior to the start of the bubble.

Lots of things now considered after the first bubble run. There is no such thing for me as there are now fewer fans who enjoy the game. It's just that, the access was limited and not all are enthusiasts of subscribing to NBA games. Also, they add a virtual audience which is a big step. I'm hoping they can add another special feature that will bring profit to them no matter how big or small is. That virtual audience setup is one good example. Believed me, no one expects that kind of setup. Maybe there are even added features next season.

If the NBA will be shutdown due to financial problems, it can be considered a big disaster. It will result in the worst domino effect that is economically related. That's why I believed that won't happen.

All will depend if this pandemic will continue for couple of years or the vaccine wont be available soon where it can really give out that possibility for this entire league would be no more
yet frankly speaking even though they are successful with recent season even on a bubble state but doesnt mean that it will be sustainable if it would continue for more years to come.
They might able to held it up for sometime but it wont really be too long. Yes, its a big league but we know that revenue is what makes it alive.

They are looking beyond the pandemic so I wouldn't say they are going to depend on it in the long run. Other sports are have adjusted already maybe they also suffer a loss due to it, but it doesn't mean they can't do anything or won't do anything to keep NBA and other sports alive. Regardless if vaccine will be available in the next 1-2 years, NBA will come up with something that will make it sustainable and at least minimise some losses until this situation settled down.

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I'm really glad that season 2020 is resumed and done. NBA will surely do their best to serve the fans and continue the season. Btw, Los Angeles Lakers really do its best and Lebron James really has a big contribution to the team and help Kobe to take another championship. If Lebron James doesn't manage to play in Los Angeles Lakers, it will be a though game but i didn't say that it will be impossible because every player of Los Angeles Lakers is really skillful that makes it unbeatable and Lebron James is not the only one who carries the game.

It is always been carried by Lebron whichever team he may join. He has already breaking records of achievement he made.

Lebron was also being compared to Michael Jordan which is one of the greatest NBA player of his time. If they were able to meet at the same then who could it be the toughest player between these players. If I am going to speculate then it would be Lebron James though MJ is good in shooting but Lebron is better and has advantage like his height and his athletic ability to outrun even younger players.

But sad reality is LeBron cannot win the champ without carrying a superstar on his team. And we can't compare him with MJ since he didn't leave his team just like what LeBron did.

I'm not LeBron hater but that's the reality.

Although that we can't deny the fact that LeBron is a good player but to the extent that comparing him with MJ is not totally debatable. But there's one thing LeBron can do to convince the people who doubt about his greatness and that is to win a championship on a team without recruiting the big names.

Michael Jordan won 6 championships with several Hall of Famers. Scottie Pippen, Rodman and had other stellar players such as Kukoc, Paxson, Kerr, Grant, Cartwright, etc. He won every single one of those with Pippen too. I'm not saying MJ isn't the better player, because he is, but Lebron's championships were impressive. Let's not act like MJ didn't have help is all I'm saying.

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The Chris Paul trade is more like "how this could have happened and would have made sense but it can't if things are different with these new rules" type of news, it is not about "Lakers are trying to get Chris Paul" it is not even known officially if they are looking out for a trade like that at all, it is all about just how if things were like back in the old days it could have been but now with new system due to pandemic it may not be able to, that is all they are talking about.

Of course, it is a possibility and nobody can deny it but there is no real truth in it that makes it anything more than common sense, who wouldn't want Chris Paul, he is a very good player and would be a perfect fit, but aside from common sense there is no direct source that shows Lakers are interested in giving up too much for him or pay him too much.

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Quote from: harizen on October 25, 2020, 02:02:25 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on October 25, 2020, 04:21:33 AM

I'm wondering what's their projection in the coming season, despite this news, I'm hoping that NBA will survive and continue to provide us entertainment.

The NBA will survive. With these expected losses, I'm sure they have lots of plans currently discussing their tables even prior to the start of the bubble.

Lots of things now considered after the first bubble run. There is no such thing for me as there are now fewer fans who enjoy the game. It's just that, the access was limited and not all are enthusiasts of subscribing to NBA games. Also, they add a virtual audience which is a big step. I'm hoping they can add another special feature that will bring profit to them no matter how big or small is. That virtual audience setup is one good example. Believed me, no one expects that kind of setup. Maybe there are even added features next season.

If the NBA will be shutdown due to financial problems, it can be considered a big disaster. It will result in the worst domino effect that is economically related. That's why I believed that won't happen.

All will depend if this pandemic will continue for couple of years or the vaccine wont be available soon where it can really give out that possibility for this entire league would be no more
yet frankly speaking even though they are successful with recent season even on a bubble state but doesnt mean that it will be sustainable if it would continue for more years to come.
They might able to held it up for sometime but it wont really be too long. Yes, its a big league but we know that revenue is what makes it alive.

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Quote from: Russlenat on October 25, 2020, 04:21:33 AM

I'm wondering what's their projection in the coming season, despite this news, I'm hoping that NBA will survive and continue to provide us entertainment.

The NBA will survive. With these expected losses, I'm sure they have lots of plans currently discussing their tables even prior to the start of the bubble.

Lots of things now considered after the first bubble run. There is no such thing for me as there are now fewer fans who enjoy the game. It's just that, the access was limited and not all are enthusiasts of subscribing to NBA games. Also, they add a virtual audience which is a big step. I'm hoping they can add another special feature that will bring profit to them no matter how big or small is. That virtual audience setup is one good example. Believed me, no one expects that kind of setup. Maybe there are even added features next season.

If the NBA will be shutdown due to financial problems, it can be considered a big disaster. It will result in the worst domino effect that is economically related. That's why I believed that won't happen.

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Quote from: Russlenat on October 25, 2020, 04:21:33 AM

The pandemic has really hurt the revenue of the NBA.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/259994/NBA-Missed-Revenue-Projections-By-

"NBA Missed Revenue Projections By $1.5 Billion"

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The NBA missed its revenue projections this season by $1.5 billion, sources told Tim Reynolds of The Associated Press.

The losses were due to a combination of the shutdown due to the pandemic, the cancellation of 171 regular-season games, completing the season without fans, and losing $200 million in a rift with the Chinese government.

There have been no decisions on finalizing the start of next season's schedule, though beginning the season in December as opposed to January or later could generate the league an extra $500 million in revenue.

The NBA is currently targeting a December 22nd start date, with a 72-game season.

I'm wondering what's their projection in the coming season, despite this news, I'm hoping that NBA will survive and continue to provide us entertainment.

I honestly think the NBA should make amends with China at this point if only to regain their lost Chinese revenue stream, there's no point in continuing this stance they had about this "Free Hong Kong" affair said by the Rockets GM now that the protests mostly died out, they should find a way to apologize/walk back to China without mentioning Hong Kong by name as the fury that'll come from US politicians from doing that will block the chances of that working.

It'll probably be in the form of "we'll give you special favors if you let us broadcast preseason games in your country". I don't know how the NBA would accomplish that in detail.

At pandemic levels, an extra $200 million of revenue is a big deal, especially considering how the NBA is trying to target $500 million for the immediate term.

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Quote from: Russlenat on October 25, 2020, 04:21:33 AM

I'm wondering what's their projection in the coming season, despite this news, I'm hoping that NBA will survive and continue to provide us entertainment.

Strongly agree. Commercials will be their strongest weapon, for now, to still make profits out of the short game.
That loss from the support of the Chinese government is a huge one.
Then, no tickets, no VIP's, popcorn, hotdogs, and beers. Might look small, but combined will be a large amount.

Quote from: Pamadar on October 25, 2020, 02:00:56 AM

Fans have their own respective qualification if we discuss abut being a goat, those younger generations who only seen how Kobe and LeBron played will put them to the discussions and consider them for this title, while older generations who seen how MJ took over in front of so many legends from his era and way back will consider him still as the GOAT .

I always like to think that Jordan is in the highest form of being a basketball player. He's a genius in that field.
But so does Kobe and Lebron.
Also, other players are different in their own ways which makes them awesome.
Steph, Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, and more.
Those guys added some spice to NBA that cannot be taken away. They may not be GOAT's but they showcased greatness.

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Quote from: btc_angela on October 25, 2020, 05:53:41 AM

That's a lot of lost money, but it was expected because there are no fans because of the pandemic. And they could even lost more money in the coming season, but NBA will have to continue and they need to adopt as well to somewhat mitigate billions of revenues. They might come up with something new in 2021 to generate added income.

I'm not sure how they will do it, their income is based only on subscription on the NBA paid televise and advertisements, maybe they will increase the subscription so they can increase their income, but I'm sure salaries of NBA players will be reduce significantly, hope this will not affect the way they will play.

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That's a lot of lost money, but it was expected because there are no fans because of the pandemic. And they could even lost more money in the coming season, but NBA will have to continue and they need to adopt as well to somewhat mitigate billions of revenues. They might come up with something new in 2021 to generate added income.

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