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October 21, 2020, 07:43:20 AM
You are right but the things that you had mention were also there before the pandemic. Meaning that earnings for now and before will be different if we will based on the number of crowds going in and pay in the stadium plus the food businesses they had outside for the fans to buy during the game. How many games they can get during the play offs and the finals? This is one of the that affects income to PBA. I think that this season still earn profit but are a little bit lesser compare to earning profit prior to covid19 pandemic.
Of courses there will be a huge difference just imagine the loss they got from tickets, merchandise and advertising. Everything will be less unless the setup returns to normal especially NBA also get revenue internationally especially on the Asian countries. By the way, this isn't a PBA thread maybe you got it wrong for a thread or just a misspelling.
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October 21, 2020, 12:40:58 AM

You are right but the things that you had mention were also there before the pandemic. Meaning that earnings for now and before will be different if we will based on the number of crowds going in and pay in the stadium plus the food businesses they had outside for the fans to buy during the game. How many games they can get during the play offs and the finals? This is one of the that affects income to PBA. I think that this season still earn profit but are a little bit lesser compare to earning profit prior to covid19 pandemic.
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October 20, 2020, 11:59:26 PM
Can the NBA still continue with the same set up like the Bubble in case there's still no vaccine? I think that would still be expensive while they are not anymore making the usual income, I'm just curious as well on how long they'll last with the current situation.
I think they can.
Last season, they can just stop the league if there won't be money coming in.
But, they still continue which means they can still balance it.
The amount they are talking is a huge amount, that's the amount of money NBA has lost without a crowd.
Man, I don't want to go deep when it comes to financing.  Grin There are just too many calculations that need to be done.
But here is what comes into my mind.
They ended the season successfully that will give an impact.
Investors will start coming in and advertisement will be overflowing.

To help us be enlightened.
TNT and ESPN:
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TV accounts for most of the NBA’s revenue. For the 2016-2017 season, TNT and ESPN re-upped their contracts to an estimated $24 billion in total. The nine-year deal earns the NBA approximately $2.6 billion per year.

NBA's Merchandise Deals
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There’s another major contributor to the NBA revenue, and unlike the others, this one corresponds to something tangible. Merchandise accounts for well over a billion dollars annually, and in the 2017-2018 season, for the first time in the NBA's history, teams wore advertisements on their jerseys.

Jersey Patch Revenue
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The jersey patch program was launched in 2016, and on average, the advertisements on the jerseys have netted teams $9.3 million annually.

There's more. Please continue here.
Conclusion: Every company written on the NBA floor needs to pay. Imagine just even that patch on every single jersey.  Wink
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October 20, 2020, 09:09:56 PM
It's hard to expect that more money will come in the bubble set up when this is the reality.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/report-nba-could-lose-nearly-500-million-ticket-revenue-without-games

That wasn't a reality yet but speculation.

As stated, the NBA is a big organization and they anticipated that will be a problem. Team owners and players themselves won't allow the temporary suspension of the NBA. They are just being worried because it's the first time they set up a bubble. For sure as the season progress, more sales will be added.

They can cover the next season's operation and I found it difficult to think that we are still struggling with the virus in the 2021-22 season.
I can even think that even without revenue, there will be volunteers and donators who would love to help the organization to keep on going for the next season. With the influence of their management and the majority of the players, I don't even think that they have to worry about the revenue.

By 2021, we're very sure that the virus will eventually be exterminated and things will come back. And by that time, revenue will increase and they'll feel it as their fans will go all-in and total support for the next season. The worry about ticket sales shall have a remedy soon.
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October 20, 2020, 08:49:42 PM
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“I gave ’em a chance. You can rewind it and go back, and I said, “You get the three Ball brothers, you going to survive this. You let ’em go … oh, it’s going to be a cold day in hell. Trust me on that.” -LaVar Ball  

Smiley  Lol this sure aged like some fine wine didn't it. There has never been a more annoying "personality" in the game of basketball throughout the history of mankind, so just hearing this on my local sports radio station made my day.

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October 20, 2020, 06:31:13 PM
Just curious here, don't you think that the start of the new season is too late in January 2021?
I don't think so. Players who played in the postseason and final had around four months to recover and relax in the previous off-seasons. This year's final of the season ended only ten days ago, so they have only three months to recover before another season.
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October 20, 2020, 06:14:26 PM
It's hard to expect that more money will come in the bubble set up when this is the reality.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/report-nba-could-lose-nearly-500-million-ticket-revenue-without-games

That wasn't a reality yet but speculation.

As stated, the NBA is a big organization and they anticipated that will be a problem. Team owners and players themselves won't allow the temporary suspension of the NBA. They are just being worried because it's the first time they set up a bubble. For sure as the season progress, more sales will be added.

They can cover the next season's operation and I found it difficult to think that we are still struggling with the virus in the 2021-22 season.


You are right, they will continue to run the NBA even if it's still in bubble, however, I'm also thinking on the players salary, they are not on the usual set up so probably as time passes, that would also be affected, with means the salary will reduce so NBA will not sink.
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October 20, 2020, 05:50:58 PM
It's hard to expect that more money will come in the bubble set up when this is the reality.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/report-nba-could-lose-nearly-500-million-ticket-revenue-without-games

That wasn't a reality yet but speculation.

As stated, the NBA is a big organization and they anticipated that will be a problem. Team owners and players themselves won't allow the temporary suspension of the NBA. They are just being worried because it's the first time they set up a bubble. For sure as the season progress, more sales will be added.

They can cover the next season's operation and I found it difficult to think that we are still struggling with the virus in the 2021-22 season.
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October 20, 2020, 05:31:14 PM
Can the NBA still continue with the same set up like the Bubble in case there's still no vaccine? I think that would still be expensive while they are not anymore making the usual income, I'm just curious as well on how long they'll last with the current situation.
They have to maintain the same bubble.

While most are out of the bubble, the NBA management could think of something new. A new setup which will be a win-win for them but nothing more, nothing less, the bubble setup was greatly made and appreciated by most of the fans.

I guess more money will come in eventually for the next season.

It's hard to expect that more money will come in the bubble set up when this is the reality.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/report-nba-could-lose-nearly-500-million-ticket-revenue-without-games

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For the NBA and its teams, financial losses will be front of mind. In a recent article, NBC Sports NBA Insider Tom Haberstroh estimated that nearly $500 million could be lost in ticket revenue without fans in attendance for the final stretch of the season. That estimate came from a "high-ranking team official" before the season was suspended.

The amount they are talking is a huge amount, that's the amount of money NBA has lost without a crowd.
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October 20, 2020, 05:30:18 PM
Can the NBA still continue with the same set up like the Bubble in case there's still no vaccine? I think that would still be expensive while they are not anymore making the usual income, I'm just curious as well on how long they'll last with the current situation.

They should set up it again in the same bubble even there's a vaccine since mass gatherings are not recommended.

As for the budget, the NBA is a big league. They have losses but for only several months with less revenue doesn't mean they can't cover their bubble operation for long.

Don't worry, the league is still receiving about millions in figures in revenue here but it's just that, not the same on their revenue prior to the pandemic.
Its better rather than have nothing at all or shall we say that they had completely postponed the entire season just because of revenue issues.They had already accepted that
losses are inevitable on the current set-up but they do still resume it out in spite of that matter- lets just be thankful for that one.About on bubble set-up then they will continue
it out even though vaccine isnt available yet and as mentioned this isnt a small league where it means that they can still somewhat sustain into this situation.
Its normal to have less revenue but atleast they are still gaining something or feasible for them to continue.
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October 20, 2020, 05:18:21 PM
Can the NBA still continue with the same set up like the Bubble in case there's still no vaccine? I think that would still be expensive while they are not anymore making the usual income, I'm just curious as well on how long they'll last with the current situation.
They have to maintain the same bubble.

While most are out of the bubble, the NBA management could think of something new. A new setup which will be a win-win for them but nothing more, nothing less, the bubble setup was greatly made and appreciated by most of the fans.

I guess more money will come in eventually for the next season.
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October 20, 2020, 05:01:50 PM
Can the NBA still continue with the same set up like the Bubble in case there's still no vaccine? I think that would still be expensive while they are not anymore making the usual income, I'm just curious as well on how long they'll last with the current situation.

They should set up it again in the same bubble even there's a vaccine since mass gatherings are not recommended.

As for the budget, the NBA is a big league. They have losses but for only several months with less revenue doesn't mean they can't cover their bubble operation for long.

Don't worry, the league is still receiving about millions in figures in revenue here but it's just that, not the same on their revenue prior to the pandemic.
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October 20, 2020, 04:56:37 PM
Though I'm excited for the next season, because for sure there will be a lot of changes in roster. Can't wait to see who's building superteams, as the Lakers are on the verge of achieving a big 3.

Who would be the third player that's going to start games with Lebron and AD?

If Chris Paul ends up getting traded to the Lakers, then yeah a superteam could form. Chris Paul and Lebron James are friends. Salvaging the Banana Boat crew somewhat at the current NBA champions would be glorious.  Wink

I have CP and Bradley Beal in my mind to complete the big 3 in Lakers. It's either of the 2 who has the highest chances as additional depth for the Laker squad.
IMO, Beal is a good addition for them since he is one of the best shooting guards in the NBA today. They can as well start Rondo in the first five.
Anyway, it's not just the Lakers will become stronger next season, but a lot of teams are acquiring best talents and constellate superstars.
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October 20, 2020, 04:50:20 PM
Though I'm excited for the next season, because for sure there will be a lot of changes in roster. Can't wait to see who's building superteams, as the Lakers are on the verge of achieving a big 3.

If Chris Paul ends up getting traded to the Lakers, then yeah a superteam could form. Chris Paul and Lebron James are friends. Salvaging the Banana Boat crew somewhat at the current NBA champions would be glorious.  Wink
Yeah, super teams,  Grin, just like when they acquire Malone and Gary Payton and Nash to build the Lakers in 2004. So it's Shaq, Kobe + Malone, Payton and Nash but the team didn't win the NBA championship that time. So if I'm the Lakers, Chris Paul might be a bad addition to the team. No need to build super teams for team, a Lebron and Davis and then good supporting casts again.
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October 20, 2020, 04:43:33 PM
If I were to suggest to the commissioner, I would set the NBA season on January, considering the players who stayed long in the bubble, they have missed their love ones in their homes. I don't know what will be the next NBA set-up, but I guess there will be another restrictions for the players to go outside, ot It would also be in the bubble. So, I guess those players deserves to be with their family in Christmas.
Though I'm excited for the next season, because for sure there will be a lot of changes in roster. Can't wait to see who's building superteams, as the Lakers are on the verge of achieving a big 3.

Yes, January will be the best time to start.
Let them have a good rest first and enjoy whatever they missed.

There will be no problem with time management since they will all be in the same venue unlike before that requires flights from East to West and even going to another country like Canada.
Now, teams can play every other day without feeling the restless trip. Just like what they did these playoffs.

Can the NBA still continue with the same set up like the Bubble in case there's still no vaccine? I think that would still be expensive while they are not anymore making the usual income, I'm just curious as well on how long they'll last with the current situation.
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October 20, 2020, 04:12:41 PM
There will be no problem with time management since they will all be in the same venue unlike before that requires flights from East to West and even going to another country like Canada.
Now, teams can play every other day without feeling the restless trip. Just like what they did these playoffs.

Agree. That's why I don't see any problem if they will start the next season next year as the venue will be in the same bubble. No need to rush and let those postseason activities be done until the end of the year.

And from what I see, if next season won't have any problems, Playoffs to Finals can be done early unlike this season. The NBA can slowly back to its original and usual event scheduled.

If Chris Paul ends up getting traded to the Lakers, then yeah a superteam could form.

I like how you called it a superteam when they are both veterans. Usually, a superteam is composed of players in their prime. I like how these 2 veterans are still in good form even they already passed their prime. We also have to give credits to their supporting cast.
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October 20, 2020, 01:31:57 PM
Though I'm excited for the next season, because for sure there will be a lot of changes in roster. Can't wait to see who's building superteams, as the Lakers are on the verge of achieving a big 3.

Who would be the third player that's going to start games with Lebron and AD? For Lakers to have a big 3 the other guy needs to play for as many minutes as those two, and in all the games. I wouldn't consider KCP or Danny Green as qualifying even though they also appeared as starters in most matches because they played for much less minutes than them, and they also don't make as big of an impact as Lebron/AD do when they play together.

If Chris Paul ends up getting traded to the Lakers, then yeah a superteam could form. Chris Paul and Lebron James are friends. Salvaging the Banana Boat crew somewhat at the current NBA champions would be glorious.  Wink
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October 20, 2020, 11:08:50 AM
If I were to suggest to the commissioner, I would set the NBA season on January, considering the players who stayed long in the bubble, they have missed their love ones in their homes. I don't know what will be the next NBA set-up, but I guess there will be another restrictions for the players to go outside, ot It would also be in the bubble. So, I guess those players deserves to be with their family in Christmas.
Though I'm excited for the next season, because for sure there will be a lot of changes in roster. Can't wait to see who's building superteams, as the Lakers are on the verge of achieving a big 3.

Yes, January will be the best time to start.
Let them have a good rest first and enjoy whatever they missed.

There will be no problem with time management since they will all be in the same venue unlike before that requires flights from East to West and even going to another country like Canada.
Now, teams can play every other day without feeling the restless trip. Just like what they did these playoffs.
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October 20, 2020, 09:49:24 AM

Harden is already good as an individual player, but as a team player, I don't think so, people look at their achievement, unfortunately, Harden has not achieve an NBA championship yet, nor gone in the NBA Finals.
That is the thing about greats and good players. Harden is an amazing player and he is definitely good enough to be called an MVP as well, dude lead the league in scoring titles as well and basically all around a great player that I won't argue against. However players like Kobe, MJ, Lebron leads their teams to championship, there is no player that never went to finals that could ever be considered one of the best to play the game.
That's what separates an elite NBA players (MJ, Kobe, Lebron), to a good player like Harden, who individual has all the awards in his belt, except NBA ring, and with that, he will be remembered for failing and not bring his team to the finals, specially the Manu blocked on him in 2016-2017.

Do not tell me coaches or teammates or opponents and what not, Iverson managed to take a team of scrubs that would probably be out of the league by that moment if not for Iverson to finals and even took a game from one of the most dominating forces the league has ever seen. So, there is no point on talking about Harden not making it to finals, he just wasn't good enough for that, he is good but not finals good.
Iverson, has the heart, I remember his trash talked with Kobe back then, beat the Lakers in game 1 unexpectedly, up to that time, if my memory serves me right, Lakers went to the finals without a loss. But after game 1 Lakers took over and won 4 straight games.
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October 20, 2020, 07:02:43 AM
Just curious here, don't you think that the start of the new season is too late in January 2021?

When they will end the next season  Huh

Wasn't the season supposed to start in December or I missed something?
Here's some words from Adam silver - NBA Commissioner which said on media.

The 2020-21 NBA season would start around Christmas at its earliest but is much more likely to commence in January of 2021.”

So these are tentative dates and expected for the next season to start.

Source: https://thesportsrush.com/nba-news-when-will-the-next-nba-season-start-adam-silver-provides-update-on-2020-21-nba-season-schedule/

If I were to suggest to the commissioner, I would set the NBA season on January, considering the players who stayed long in the bubble, they have missed their love ones in their homes. I don't know what will be the next NBA set-up, but I guess there will be another restrictions for the players to go outside, ot It would also be in the bubble. So, I guess those players deserves to be with their family in Christmas.
Though I'm excited for the next season, because for sure there will be a lot of changes in roster. Can't wait to see who's building superteams, as the Lakers are on the verge of achieving a big 3.
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