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Quote from: Questat on October 27, 2020, 05:44:18 PM

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The good thing about Michael Jordan was his skill to bring his team into finals when he was in Chicago Bulls and not only that, He managed to win 6 of them. also, he became the NBA Finals MVP in all six NBA championship that's insane for a player who played in Chicago Bulls for his six-season career.

Let's also give credit to his teammates. Their lineup was really one of the best during their championship seasons. Jordan's skill is superb so when blended with his teammate's skills, the result is they turned into a monster team.

And just want to clarify your last statement, Jordan's journey in Chicago is not just six-season but 13 seasons. He also experiences struggles and difficulties in his early years and even a first-round sweep at the playoffs but he came back strong every year. Their team's GM is also good at acquiring role players that help the Chicago Bulls reached their stardom.

That's right, without good role players surrounding the best player in the NBA, he would still fair as he cannot carry his team alone, it's a team sport, chemistry is very important as team effort makes a team successful. Correct me if I'm wrong, during MJ's era he is not a fan of building a super team, IMO, Bulls that time are not considered as super team compared to the GSW, Lakers, and Nets with Durant and Irving.

This is why its called 5 vs 5 team game where each player do have its specific role and no player can carry his team alone.It all needs coordination and indeed an extreme teamwork.
Honestly speaking, i do love those old days of basketball compared on what we have now.Theres no quarreling or argumentation about being a super or powerhouse team or not.

MJ's journey doesnt only talk about success yet theres indeed ups and downs in all of his career but he prove out his greatness in the end.

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Quote from: yazher on October 27, 2020, 07:43:12 AM

The good thing about Michael Jordan was his skill to bring his team into finals when he was in Chicago Bulls and not only that, He managed to win 6 of them. also, he became the NBA Finals MVP in all six NBA championship that's insane for a player who played in Chicago Bulls for his six-season career.

Let's also give credit to his teammates. Their lineup was really one of the best during their championship seasons. Jordan's skill is superb so when blended with his teammate's skills, the result is they turned into a monster team.

And just want to clarify your last statement, Jordan's journey in Chicago is not just six-season but 13 seasons. He also experiences struggles and difficulties in his early years and even a first-round sweep at the playoffs but he came back strong every year. Their team's GM is also good at acquiring role players that help the Chicago Bulls reached their stardom.

That's right, without good role players surrounding the best player in the NBA, he would still fair as he cannot carry his team alone, it's a team sport, chemistry is very important as team effort makes a team successful. Correct me if I'm wrong, during MJ's era he is not a fan of building a super team, IMO, Bulls that time are not considered as super team compared to the GSW, Lakers, and Nets with Durant and Irving.

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Quote from: yazher on October 27, 2020, 07:43:12 AM

The good thing about Michael Jordan was his skill to bring his team into finals when he was in Chicago Bulls and not only that, He managed to win 6 of them. also, he became the NBA Finals MVP in all six NBA championship that's insane for a player who played in Chicago Bulls for his six-season career.

Let's also give credit to his teammates. Their lineup was really one of the best during their championship seasons. Jordan's skill is superb so when blended with his teammate's skills, the result is they turned into a monster team.

And just want to clarify your last statement, Jordan's journey in Chicago is not just six-season but 13 seasons. He also experiences struggles and difficulties in his early years and even a first-round sweep at the playoffs but he came back strong every year. Their team's GM is also good at acquiring role players that help the Chicago Bulls reached their stardom.

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With this expected big salary and contracts offered by teams at any superstars, that reason alone is enough to think that the NBA won't be suspended nor stopped their operation due to expected continuous low revenue. If there's no chance at all to run, the majority of NBA teams and big personalities will surely step up and do their best plan to rise the league.

That's why even there are reports that the NBA might be in jeopardy, I'm not buying that story as there are lots of ways they can look at for the league to run for long. NBA is not just big as a whole but they are also backed by big institutions as well.

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Quote from: Reid on October 27, 2020, 10:26:54 AM

The term was to "rebuild" the team with young stars.

If I'm not mistaken, the process has been started for a long time already but still no progress.

Or maybe currently still tagged as a "plan".

Yes, they started rebuilding a long time ago, they even hire Phil Jackson to be the President of this team, unfortunately it was a failure and until now the Knicks are still in the stage of experimenting to improve the team, this team is awful, they done qualify in the playoffs and they finished with a very bad record in most seasons, the best season they have IIRC was only when Melo was still with the team, and of course with the Linsanity, who would forget that.

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Quote from: Natalim on October 27, 2020, 07:13:46 AM

New York Knicks is the richest but they could not make their team at least a playoff contender, what happen to this team? I think they all have the money now to sign a legit star in the NBA, if they can sign Davis and lure him with a bigger amount the Lakers could give, I think it would be interesting.

As far as my own analysis is concern about the future plans of Anthony Davis, given he already made a championship, I believed he will not just easily be attracted to these possible huge contracts offer by other teams. If that's the case then no changes at all why he made the decision to leave the Pelicans. I see that his camp is also looking at how competitive the roster built revolving around that team before considering switching.

Quote from: Reid on October 27, 2020, 10:26:54 AM

The term was to "rebuild" the team with young stars.

If I'm not mistaken, the process has been started for a long time already but still no progress.

Or maybe currently still tagged as a "plan".

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People could talk about Michael Jordan or Lebron James all day every day and you could never find a common ground, they are both great players who used the most they could ever put on the floor and got as much as they potentially can from this sport, they are both greats and they both made the league so much more fun thanks to their existence.

We could also just enjoy what we have and move on, we do not really have to decide which one is better or worse, not like we could ever come up with one single proof that one is better, there is no "proof" on these things, there is no data that could officially end things, so at the end of the day all of our discussions will be useless and endless.

I love Spurs, my favorite player is Duncan, I loved watching Kobe (even though he destroyed us at times) more than any other non-spurs player, I watched MJ for a small period (at the end of his career) and I watched Lebron all his career and I can tell you that I loved every single one of them, they were all magnificent and incredible, that is good enough for me.

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Quote from: Natalim on October 27, 2020, 07:13:46 AM

New York Knicks is the richest but they could not make their team at least a playoff contender, what happen to this team? I think they all have the money now to sign a legit star in the NBA, if they can sign Davis and lure him with a bigger amount the Lakers could give, I think it would be interesting.

The term was to "rebuild" the team with young stars.
That's the Knicks goal after reasoning out why they didn't offer anything to KD and Kyrie. Grin

Knicks lost so many fans with that bad decision. Or, they hate them until the decision becomes fruitful.

Quote from: Japinat on October 27, 2020, 06:54:44 AM

If the NBA would not reduce the salary of the other NBA players, they have a reason to give out that big amount, besides Lakers is in the top 3 in the NBA in terms or net worth ranking. https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/02/forbes-releases-2020-nba-franchise-valuations.html

That's true.
But it also cuts the amount they could offer to bring in another good player.
Well, having two stars sounds good and both are monsters. Grin

They just need good roleplayers again since most of them have a 1-year contract only.

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Quote from: stadus on October 26, 2020, 10:50:55 AM

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I think Lebron is the second greatest and MJ the greatest of all time. Has nothing to do with personal bias, simply what I've seen with my own eyes.

Well, for me, in the top 3, I will put Lebron in the last, just what I see also.

Here's how I rank them.

1- Michael Jordan
2-Kobe Bryant
3-Lebron James

Even MJ have spoken. lol

Michael Jordan Believes Only Kobe Bryant Is on His Level

The good thing about Michael Jordan was his skill to bring his team into finals when he was in Chicago Bulls and not only that, He managed to win 6 of them. also, he became the NBA Finals MVP in all six NBA championship that's insane for a player who played in Chicago Bulls for his six-season career.

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Quote from: Reid on October 27, 2020, 06:48:54 AM

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With that, I think Davis would still want to leave if he wants to earn the best salary because he will be on the top in terms of earnings per year which he will have a 40.4 million per year while the top 1 now is Curry with 40.231 million per year according to http://www.espn.com/nba/salaries.

Damn! that was a huge amount.
Receiving that kind of offer even with a pandemic? Whoa! I would not even think about it. Cheesy

If the NBA would not reduce the salary of the other NBA players, they have a reason to give out that big amount, besides Lakers is in the top 3 in the NBA in terms or net worth ranking. https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/02/forbes-releases-2020-nba-franchise-valuations.html

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1-New York Knicks: $4.6 billion
2-Los Angeles Lakers: $4.4 billion
3-Golden State Warriors: $4.3 billion

That figure tells they can afford.

New York Knicks is the richest but they could not make their team at least a playoff contender, what happen to this team? I think they all have the money now to sign a legit star in the NBA, if they can sign Davis and lure him with a bigger amount the Lakers could give, I think it would be interesting.

But Lakers can already give him the best salary among the NBA players in the league, so let's see what would happen and though Davis has confirm he will stay with the Lakers but there's no done deal yet so it means he is still open.

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Quote from: Reid on October 27, 2020, 06:48:54 AM

Quote from: Japinat on October 27, 2020, 06:06:43 AM

With that, I think Davis would still want to leave if he wants to earn the best salary because he will be on the top in terms of earnings per year which he will have a 40.4 million per year while the top 1 now is Curry with 40.231 million per year according to http://www.espn.com/nba/salaries.

Damn! that was a huge amount.
Receiving that kind of offer even with a pandemic? Whoa! I would not even think about it. Cheesy

If the NBA would not reduce the salary of the other NBA players, they have a reason to give out that big amount, besides Lakers is in the top 3 in the NBA in terms or net worth ranking. https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/02/forbes-releases-2020-nba-franchise-valuations.html

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1-New York Knicks: $4.6 billion
2-Los Angeles Lakers: $4.4 billion
3-Golden State Warriors: $4.3 billion

That figure tells they can afford.

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Quote from: stadus on October 26, 2020, 10:50:55 AM

Here's how I rank them.

1- Michael Jordan
2-Kobe Bryant
3-Lebron James

I have the same ranking. But it could be biased since I watched more Jordan films and at those years my passion for basketball was on fire. Grin

To make it short, I lived most of my life in the Jordan era.
Michael Jordan Ends GOAT debate 2020
Even Jordan wants to end the debate. For him, it was a disrespect to the players who developed the game.
Era per era, they are upgrading the game of basketball.

Quote from: Japinat on October 27, 2020, 06:06:43 AM

With that, I think Davis would still want to leave if he wants to earn the best salary because he will be on the top in terms of earnings per year which he will have a 40.4 million per year while the top 1 now is Curry with 40.231 million per year according to http://www.espn.com/nba/salaries.

Damn! that was a huge amount.
Receiving that kind of offer even with a pandemic? Whoa! I would not even think about it. Cheesy

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It's a huge amount of money that an NBA player would want, Davis gets the championship at get's the biggest salary in the NBA, there's no reason to leave if Indeed the Lakers will offer him that amount, he even has a bigger salary than the king.

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Anthony Davis should stay in Lakers, I know he will. He just needs to stay off alcohol. He's not sober since championship night. Grin

Only time will tell if AD would remain a Laker but i doubt he will remain in that purple and gold jersey if there is a very tempting offer from other teams as he won't hesitate to sign since he already that championship ring. NBA is business so i think AD would take more money if the opportunity is there.

Yes, but I believe Davis will stay as the Lakers could still offer him a great contract

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-anthony-davis-plans-to-opt-out-of-287-m-option-but-will-resign-with-lakers-151255112.html

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The Lakers can offer Davis a five-year, $202 million deal in the offseason, more than any other team can pay Davis.

With that, I think Davis would still want to leave if he wants to earn the best salary because he will be on the top in terms of earnings per year which he will have a 40.4 million per year while the top 1 now is Curry with 40.231 million per year according to http://www.espn.com/nba/salaries.

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Quote from: redhack on October 26, 2020, 06:13:40 PM

Anthony Davis should stay in Lakers, I know he will. He just needs to stay off alcohol. He's not sober since championship night. Grin

Only time will tell if AD would remain a Laker but i doubt he will remain in that purple and gold jersey if there is a very tempting offer from other teams as he won't hesitate to sign since he already that championship ring. NBA is business so i think AD would take more money if the opportunity is there.

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Quote from: erikoy on October 27, 2020, 02:00:33 AM

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on October 27, 2020, 01:29:04 AM

Probably Rondo is just trying to let the Lakers know that he wants more money as he is vital in their championship ran. And with his beef with CP3, I'm sure he doesn't want to give up his Lakers just to let CP3 in, Lol. Again, their motto should be, if ain't broke, don't fix it. So I guess the Lakers and Rondo will have a long talk and discuss everything and let him known that the Lakers still wants his services for another championship run next season.

High chance that Lakers team will going to change its players. And let other strong players to be traded in their team like CP3. However, Rondo had played a great role for the Lakers to get an easy win against the Miami. He had shown what he has got like he is good at handling ball, passes and even breaking defenses by scoring. He is difficult to guard due to his capability in passing and shooting both crucial in breaking defenses.

He shows his worth for sure that's still fact to consider to offer much higher than to trade him.

The chemistry between him, AD and LeBron already been established during this season, for basketball fans trading should not be the first option since they've got the ring playing together.
Though like what the post above said, money will be the deciding influenced to settle this concern. It will be announce eventually whether both camps got settled or the move will take place.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on October 27, 2020, 01:29:04 AM

Probably Rondo is just trying to let the Lakers know that he wants more money as he is vital in their championship ran. And with his beef with CP3, I'm sure he doesn't want to give up his Lakers just to let CP3 in, Lol. Again, their motto should be, if ain't broke, don't fix it. So I guess the Lakers and Rondo will have a long talk and discuss everything and let him known that the Lakers still wants his services for another championship run next season.

High chance that Lakers team will going to change its players. And let other strong players to be traded in their team like CP3. However, Rondo had played a great role for the Lakers to get an easy win against the Miami. He had shown what he has got like he is good at handling ball, passes and even breaking defenses by scoring. He is difficult to guard due to his capability in passing and shooting both crucial in breaking defenses.

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Quote from: Reid on October 26, 2020, 12:25:45 PM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 26, 2020, 06:04:34 AM

Possible Reid, and CP3 is not getting any younger, they will have to invest a lot on a player that is not already at his peak.
I think Lakers would just stay with the current roster, of course, some will leave but as long as they have James and Davis, they will make the others better.

Indeed.
They actually have the best roleplayers around Lebron and Davis. Putting CP3 might be
Rondo, Green, KCP, Bradley, and Kuzma (I worry about this kid, he needs to step up.)
Bradley didn't play in the bubble but before that, he was known for his defense with the Lakers team.

Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 26, 2020, 08:48:01 AM

I hope Rondo will just stay, there's a rumor that he will leave the team if he can find a better offer, he was really a big help for the Lakers to win a Championship last season because he was so genius when handing the ball and Lebron was able to play his game which is being aggressive while he is holding the ball.

I doubt Rondo would want out.
Even with a fair deal, if I am him I would take the offer.
He showcased something in the playoffs and he is getting more valuable despite his age.
I bet he is just trying to intimidate the Laker's management because of what he had done.
It's business after all.

Probably Rondo is just trying to let the Lakers know that he wants more money as he is vital in their championship ran. And with his beef with CP3, I'm sure he doesn't want to give up his Lakers just to let CP3 in, Lol. Again, their motto should be, if ain't broke, don't fix it. So I guess the Lakers and Rondo will have a long talk and discuss everything and let him known that the Lakers still wants his services for another championship run next season.

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Anthony Davis should stay in Lakers, I know he will. He just needs to stay off alcohol. He's not sober since championship night. Grin

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Quote from: asu on October 26, 2020, 09:30:21 AM

Yeah. It seems also some kind of reverse phychology/double meaning statement from Lebron to convince AD to stay while his on unrestricted free agent this summer.

I wonder if AD goes into another team. Will Lebron continue or retire? what are the odds... Cheesy

Anthony Davis camp said before that they will just stay on Lakers, at least a single season.

But with the championship, the wind change, and staying with the team is now more considered.

I think no need for Lakers management or LBJ to convinces AD to stay. He can just stay with the team and take advantage of LeBron and when the time comes that LBJ will retire, he can now choose if will option out on his contract or stay depends on the set of teammates he will be with.

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