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Quote from: chaser15 on October 30, 2020, 04:22:40 PM

The only thing that Udoka should receive the big credit when he helps Aldridge to decide to join the Spurs.

Unfortunately it was not a successful move, Spurs were a different team when Aldrige played for them, Aldrige should have stayed with the Portland Blazers and wait until the team develop, imagine if he stayed in the team and they have Lillard and McCullum.

We should already expect that on the Spurs team since most of the core lineup of Spurs entered their post-prime when Aldridge came. Spurs with Aldridge today is obviously different when Spurs still have their core lineup intact. Still, a good move for the Spurs as they retain their lineup with a good big man. They just need to find another superstar in the making to get back on track.

They might want to consider trading DeRozan as even today, I see he's not comfortable with the Spurs.

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Quote from: chaser15 on October 30, 2020, 04:22:40 PM

The only thing that Udoka should receive the big credit when he helps Aldridge to decide to join the Spurs.

Unfortunately it was not a successful move, Spurs were a different team when Aldrige played for them, Aldrige should have stayed with the Portland Blazers and wait until the team develop, imagine if he stayed in the team and they have Lillard and McCullum.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on October 30, 2020, 04:10:38 PM

Nash+ MDA + Udoka is just a pure staff heaven if you ask me, this staff could make any team soooo much more fun to watch and they are definitely one of the best minds offensively as well. Udoka for those who do not know comes from Spurs as well under Pop and was assistant coach during the year Spurs destroyed miami super three trio in the finals. You know the other two anyway Cheesy

The only question I have in my mind is how to make coaches be heard by the players? I mean irving is a strange character without a doubt and Durant is famously known for being easily hurt, so it would basically be a very difficult task to get this done, not like it would be easy anywhere else but there is this fun line here where if players listen to staff they will be amazing but if they don't it would be turmoil whole season.

You have a point. Great staff should also be accompanied by a good set of players.

Durant and Kyrie do have their own ego so hopefully, that won't destroy their chemistry with coaches, staff, and teammates.

Not discrediting Udoka on the 2014 finals, but Pops don't need assistant coach guidance during their championship season against the Heat. Plus Spurs lineup is strong as hell that season. The only thing that Udoka should receive the big credit when he helps Aldridge to decide to join the Spurs.

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Nash+ MDA + Udoka is just a pure staff heaven if you ask me, this staff could make any team soooo much more fun to watch and they are definitely one of the best minds offensively as well. Udoka for those who do not know comes from Spurs as well under Pop and was assistant coach during the year Spurs destroyed miami super three trio in the finals. You know the other two anyway Cheesy

The only question I have in my mind is how to make coaches be heard by the players? I mean irving is a strange character without a doubt and Durant is famously known for being easily hurt, so it would basically be a very difficult task to get this done, not like it would be easy anywhere else but there is this fun line here where if players listen to staff they will be amazing but if they don't it would be turmoil whole season.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on October 29, 2020, 10:15:20 AM

Quote from: boyptc on October 29, 2020, 02:12:56 AM

We're not saying that he's old but we're only telling his age at this point.

I also think that before he decides to retire, there should be something that can be remembered in his name. Just like the GOAT, there should be a unique brand and remembrance under his name and whatever it is.

We're sure to remember that he's one of the best.

Lebron is old in basketball standards, and really 35 is pretty old for any sport. Lebron has already shown signs of his age and slowing down, though sure it can be hard to tell considering he's still one of the top players in the world. That said Lebron has only a couple years left. No one is a super star in to their 40's in basketball. I do think he's got 2-3 years of greatness left however.

There are a lot of things that still can happen from 2-3 years.

I think that when this pandemic ends, there will be more fans that are going to come after him and brand deals. You've just given me an idea that before he retires, I should have some items that are original signed by him.

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Quote from: Reid on October 30, 2020, 01:13:33 PM

What do you think guys?
76ers can take the CP3 salary swapping one or 2 of their players. But it will not be Embiid nor Simmons.
Harris and Horford are the possible keys.

That will be a good move if happened.

Sixers needs a reliable point guard so that Simmons can be more focused on his usual position, the forward position. He isn't that good in terms of playmaking as that's not his playing style.

I think there's no plan to trade away either Embiid and Simmons. They can accommodate CP3's salary but they need to give up their good role players. It's fine though and takes that as the last attempt to chase the championship with Simmons and Embiid together and CP3's time (in good shape) is running out.

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Quote from: Pamadar on October 30, 2020, 10:17:38 AM

While with Rondo, as we all see him played with LeBron and Davis still fresh how he done his part winning the title.

Yeah, I am in awe watching him play. Steals, assists, and 3 point shots which he is not known for. Grin

I mean for a 34-year-old dude, he is still kicking ass.

Holy sh*t!
76ers offseason preview: A Chris Paul reunion with Daryl Morey and Doc Rivers is too obvious to ignore

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Few expected the Clippers to fire Doc Rivers even after they lost to the Denver Nuggets. Fewer expected Daryl Morey to leave the Houston Rockets after a 2019 contract extension, and fewer still expected him to return to basketball so quickly after leaving the Rockets when all indications at the time suggested that he planned to take time off to spend with family and explore other interests. Yet here we are, weeks away from the NBA Draft, and the 76ers have upgraded from one of the NBA's worst coach-GM combinations to one of its best overnight. Say what you will about Rivers' recent postseason miscues, but he is now one of only eight NBA head coaches with a championship ring. Morey doesn't have one, but he has always indisputably had a plan.

What do you think guys?
76ers can take the CP3 salary swapping one or 2 of their players. But it will not be Embiid nor Simmons.
Harris and Horford are the possible keys.

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Westbrook and Giannis could be the worst pairing of all time in history of pairing stars. They are both players who are fiercely attacking the drive and try to dunk or pass out, they are not shooters and they would be hurting the teams space, if you combine them both at the same time you are going to end up seeing a ton of clogged paint that will hurt them enough to have a horrible offensive year.

I understand that Bucks failed miserably last year and they want to change something to make it a lot better for Giannis this year, but they just need to keep focusing on getting smaller pieces into bigger instead of changing the whole idea. Sure if you can get Klay Thompson instead of Kris Middleton that is better, but you do not get a Dunker instead of Kris Middleton, that is not how growing better works at all.

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Quote from: Kasabus on October 29, 2020, 09:12:39 PM

That's right, Kobe was not as explosive as he was before the injury, the injury really changes his career

Any serious injuries are the main enemy for legendary players(like Kobe) and any other players because each of them is losing the opportunity to play at the same high level after that.

Quote from: chaser15 on October 29, 2020, 06:03:12 PM

he can even play at 40s in a strong built and established a new record of the most active age player in the NBA which I think being hold now by Vince Carter at 43 years old.

I guess Lebron won't try to break this record.

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Quote from: Reid on October 30, 2020, 12:44:12 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 30, 2020, 12:24:05 AM

If this would happen, will Westbrook finally land on a team that will improve because of his contribution?
Bucks are certainly looking to improve and I think this is their chance here.

Wherever Westbrook lands it's like bad luck is glued to him.
Do you agree? Grin

If I were to choose, I'd prefer CP3 or Rajon Rondo.
Westbrook is an offensive guy and that is why it suits Houston a lot.
But with Bucks, I think the necessity is a playmaker. Someone who could control the floor and give dimes to Giannis and Middleton.
A veteran will be a big plus, experience-wise.

I go with that, Rondo or CP3 would be a good addition for bucks.

This two great point guards can takeover when the team needed them the most, look how far Houston went when CP3 still playing with them, they've more improve than having Westbrook.
While with Rondo, as we all see him played with LeBron and Davis still fresh how he done his part winning the title.

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Quote from: Reid on October 30, 2020, 12:44:12 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 30, 2020, 12:24:05 AM

If this would happen, will Westbrook finally land on a team that will improve because of his contribution?
Bucks are certainly looking to improve and I think this is their chance here.

Wherever Westbrook lands it's like bad luck is glued to him.
Do you agree? Grin

If I were to choose, I'd prefer CP3 or Rajon Rondo.
Westbrook is an offensive guy and that is why it suits Houston a lot.
But with Bucks, I think the necessity is a playmaker. Someone who could control the floor and give dimes to Giannis and Middleton.
A veteran will be a big plus, experience-wise.

If that's what is needed then we are talking of CP3 here, no offense to Rondo, he is a good playmaker but CP3 is more complete as he has some shooting skills which Rondo was not consistent yet. CP3 is definitely a good boost to the Bucks, and for sure they will be a better team in the East compared to the hype Brooklyn Nets.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 30, 2020, 12:24:05 AM

If this would happen, will Westbrook finally land on a team that will improve because of his contribution?
Bucks are certainly looking to improve and I think this is their chance here.

Wherever Westbrook lands it's like bad luck is glued to him.
Do you agree? Grin

If I were to choose, I'd prefer CP3 or Rajon Rondo.
Westbrook is an offensive guy and that is why it suits Houston a lot.
But with Bucks, I think the necessity is a playmaker. Someone who could control the floor and give dimes to Giannis and Middleton.
A veteran will be a big plus, experience-wise.

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Giannis and Westbrook, who like their tandem?

NBA Trade Rumors: Bucks Can Land Russell Westbrook For Four Players And First-Round Pick

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"After falling short of their goals in the 2020 postseason, the Milwaukee Bucks are in a state of flux as they determine how they can make their team better this offseason.

Among a number of rumors and trade suggestions, Danny Cunningham of Complex proposed a deal for the Bucks that could pair Giannis Antetokounmpo with 9x All-Star, Russell Westbrook. "

If this would happen, will Westbrook finally land on a team that will improve because of his contribution?
Bucks are certainly looking to improve and I think this is their chance here.

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Quote from: chaser15 on October 29, 2020, 06:03:12 PM

Quote from: Botnake on October 29, 2020, 05:46:34 PM

Kobe retired at 38 year old, he was still a star though he was already struggling at that time, but Lebron is different, he is healthy so he could last at 40 years old or even more, who knows, his conditioning is extra ordinary, he spent a lot of money for that and he wants to prove something.

From 2012 onwards, Lakers is one of the underperformed team in the NBA. Kobe Bryant suffered major injuries that affects his overall performance. If my calculation is correct he was 33-36 years old at that time.

If Lebron will make it possible not to suffer injuries, he can even play at 40s in a strong built and established a new record of the most active age player in the NBA which I think being hold now by Vince Carter at 43 years old.

That's right, Kobe was not as explosive as he was before the injury, the injury really changes his career and that is one of the main reasons why LA struggle because despite of him not the same Kobe, he is still taking most of the shots, he didn't adjust and just allow the young guns to do most of the production. If you see Kobe's shooting percentage, he is at his worst.

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Quote from: Botnake on October 29, 2020, 05:46:34 PM

Kobe retired at 38 year old, he was still a star though he was already struggling at that time, but Lebron is different, he is healthy so he could last at 40 years old or even more, who knows, his conditioning is extra ordinary, he spent a lot of money for that and he wants to prove something.

From 2012 onwards, Lakers is one of the underperformed team in the NBA. Kobe Bryant suffered major injuries that affects his overall performance. If my calculation is correct he was 33-36 years old at that time.

If Lebron will make it possible not to suffer injuries, he can even play at 40s in a strong built and established a new record of the most active age player in the NBA which I think being hold now by Vince Carter at 43 years old.

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Quote from: Oasisman on October 29, 2020, 05:30:36 PM

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on October 29, 2020, 10:15:20 AM

Lebron is old in basketball standards, and really 35 is pretty old for any sport. Lebron has already shown signs of his age and slowing down, though sure it can be hard to tell considering he's still one of the top players in the world. That said Lebron has only a couple years left. No one is a super star in to their 40's in basketball. I do think he's got 2-3 years of greatness left however.

That's right, he's got 2-3 years more to dominate the league. After that, changes of him slowing down will become very obvious. But, I guess he won't retire until he's 40+, he's been looking forward to play with hi son in the NBA and I guess the NBA would be allowing that to happen. It's all business after all, LeBron is a big name in the league, so why not?.
Though just like what you said, no players in their 40's is a superstar in basketball, because they become a living legend.

Kobe retired at 38 year old, he was still a star though he was already struggling at that time, but Lebron is different, he is healthy so he could last at 40 years old or even more, who knows, his conditioning is extra ordinary, he spent a lot of money for that and he wants to prove something.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on October 29, 2020, 04:54:31 PM

Quote from: harizen on October 29, 2020, 01:19:39 PM

Quote from: emrecemsan on October 29, 2020, 10:55:36 AM

I think Lebron takes a good care of himself. So, I believe that he will play at a superstar level even when he is 40.

It's no secret that LeBron James is spending millions to take care of his body.

When he played a "total of perfect 82 games" last 2017-18 season plus averaging "around 40 minutes per game in the playoffs to Finals", many got surprised that even in his post-prime at 33 years of age that time, he's not showing any signs of slowing down. Then that brings the question of how James takes care of his body and a report stated he spends about $1.5M per year for that.

And with his last season performance, still no signs of slowing down and still establishing good stats in every game. He seems not exhausted too as Lakers done a good job on signing a set of good role players. I'm seeing LBJ still in his good shape for at least 2-3 seasons more, possible even around 40s.

Its one of the most important investment where you do put up some focus or importance towards your body or physique yet you can achieved those accomplishments if your body isnt capable on doing thing
and this is what make Lebron truly had that athleticism on him which havent been showing any signs of slowdown in spite of age is getting older which is really that impressive.

2-3 seasons? Im seeing 5 more seasons for him to maintain it out.

Quote from: goinmerry on October 28, 2020, 09:44:27 PM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on October 28, 2020, 06:05:39 PM

I dont know what their salary cap is but they would probably have to dump a bunch of money to get a max star. NBA has a salary cap so you cant just indefinitely add superstars at will lile you can in baseball.

The attempt on acquiring Giannis is already on the Dallas Mavericks plan for a long time now. If salary cap is an issue and that will be the reason why that signing won't happen then we should already see a rumor or some analyst shared their view stating it's not possible to happen.

There are ways to make it happen but that will limit Mavericks plan this upcoming season to market good role players. That also depend on Giannis decision once he hit the free agency in the next post-season.

Having Giannis on Dallas will really great contender on next season.All will vary indeed on Giannis decision. On what chance we do see for this to happen?

Honestly I can see him taking a 1 year deal with the bucks to give them one full year to compete and if they can't put it together than maybe he leaves. He can sign for a super max deal with the bucks only so that will be tpugh to walk away from as well. Time will tell but I have a feeling he stays.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on October 29, 2020, 10:15:20 AM

Lebron is old in basketball standards, and really 35 is pretty old for any sport. Lebron has already shown signs of his age and slowing down, though sure it can be hard to tell considering he's still one of the top players in the world. That said Lebron has only a couple years left. No one is a super star in to their 40's in basketball. I do think he's got 2-3 years of greatness left however.

That's right, he's got 2-3 years more to dominate the league. After that, changes of him slowing down will become very obvious. But, I guess he won't retire until he's 40+, he's been looking forward to play with hi son in the NBA and I guess the NBA would be allowing that to happen. It's all business after all, LeBron is a big name in the league, so why not?.
Though just like what you said, no players in their 40's is a superstar in basketball, because they become a living legend.

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Quote from: darewaller on October 29, 2020, 02:44:41 PM

KD played in OKC too, and with westbrook and other players which I think Irving is a better player than westbrook but not all that much, just a tiny bit and yet KD failed to bring any championship to OKC. Mainly that was because they played in the west and west is a tough one, but east looks like it is getting tougher as well, one day they look like they are decent and another day they look like they are soft. However between sixers, raptors, bucks, Miami, celtics and now nets east going to be not so easy neither.

I feel like best KD can do with Nets would be second round exit, he would probably not make it to conference finals, and if he does that would probably be the end as well. However this is basketball, you never know what is going to happen, who could have said Miami would be at finals at the start of last year? NOBODY could have guessed that at all.

Sportsbooks knows better, they have rank the teams according to their chances.

https://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/

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Los Angeles Lakers   +350   7/2
Los Angeles Clippers   +400   4/1
Milwaukee Bucks   +650   13/2
Boston Celtics   +1200   12/1
Golden State Warriors   +1200   12/1
Brooklyn Nets   +1400   14/1
Miami Heat   +1400   14/1

Brooklyn nets has the same odds with Heat, Sixers was not even considered here as that team is already a mess, FOR NOW>

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Quote from: harizen on October 29, 2020, 01:19:39 PM

Quote from: emrecemsan on October 29, 2020, 10:55:36 AM

I think Lebron takes a good care of himself. So, I believe that he will play at a superstar level even when he is 40.

It's no secret that LeBron James is spending millions to take care of his body.

When he played a "total of perfect 82 games" last 2017-18 season plus averaging "around 40 minutes per game in the playoffs to Finals", many got surprised that even in his post-prime at 33 years of age that time, he's not showing any signs of slowing down. Then that brings the question of how James takes care of his body and a report stated he spends about $1.5M per year for that.

And with his last season performance, still no signs of slowing down and still establishing good stats in every game. He seems not exhausted too as Lakers done a good job on signing a set of good role players. I'm seeing LBJ still in his good shape for at least 2-3 seasons more, possible even around 40s.

Its one of the most important investment where you do put up some focus or importance towards your body or physique yet you can achieved those accomplishments if your body isnt capable on doing thing
and this is what make Lebron truly had that athleticism on him which havent been showing any signs of slowdown in spite of age is getting older which is really that impressive.

2-3 seasons? Im seeing 5 more seasons for him to maintain it out.

Quote from: goinmerry on October 28, 2020, 09:44:27 PM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on October 28, 2020, 06:05:39 PM

I dont know what their salary cap is but they would probably have to dump a bunch of money to get a max star. NBA has a salary cap so you cant just indefinitely add superstars at will lile you can in baseball.

The attempt on acquiring Giannis is already on the Dallas Mavericks plan for a long time now. If salary cap is an issue and that will be the reason why that signing won't happen then we should already see a rumor or some analyst shared their view stating it's not possible to happen.

There are ways to make it happen but that will limit Mavericks plan this upcoming season to market good role players. That also depend on Giannis decision once he hit the free agency in the next post-season.

Having Giannis on Dallas will really great contender on next season.All will vary indeed on Giannis decision. On what chance we do see for this to happen?

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