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Quote from: harizen on October 18, 2020, 02:09:34 PM

Take note that strategy is their solution to compete with the best during their hard and difficult time. They made that built from scratch so it's inappropriate to say that they relying too much on three-point shooting. Back then, the suggested advice to them is to focus on the outside area since they are being dominated in the paint by other teams. And look at the progress, it becomes successful and their 3 chips is a living proof to that.

It's no secret that their core players become affected by the injuries last season. Surely, they will bounce back. Can't believe with just a single season absence, people think GSW is now done.

The process of thinking strategies is continuous, even by any teams. It's just that the process isn't done overnight. Give them time.

That's true.
Those 3 point shots are being created also.
They don't just go there and throw the ball in space with a defender on their face.

One thing that is also forgotten. It's their defense which made them win championships.
How can you take a lead if you cannot even defend first? That include the switches made by the whole team that is not shown in their statistics.

They will bounce back, I am sure about that.
Even without KD, they can make it happen. They don't really have him in the first place.

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Thank you for your responses, I didn't expect this thread to be active like this.

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Quote from: harizen on October 18, 2020, 02:09:34 PM

Can't believe with just a single season absence, people think GSW is now done.

The process of thinking strategies is continuous, even by any teams. It's just that the process isn't done overnight. Give them time.

That happens every season. Remember when Lebron didn't made it on the finals during the other season, cmiiw. Fans thought that him and his team will never create a comeback. But just look at the recent season, they've made it. And I think for GSW, they are also going through the same process. I mean this is applicable for most teams that are going through a tough process, they're all possibly going to have a lot of changes which they think is necessary for them to step up.

The expectation of the people is just high, actually they look absent as they lose in the last NBA Finals, and this season they didn't even qualify in the playoffs, and we can also consider that Durant is not anymore with the team which was their Finals MVP the time when they won a championship, now we have the Lakers who are the champ, it's nice that GSW was underrated again so we can get a great odds betting on them.

They'll come back, that's for sure.

Warriors are +700 to win the NBA championship next season.

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Lakers (1) and Clippers (2). I'm sure they'll only face one of that team if they will get a good ranking in the regular season and will beat their opponents in the playoffs to reach the WCF. Warriors are great because of the fans, so I'm hoping that next season it's not the same set up as the bubble.

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Quote from: harizen on October 18, 2020, 02:09:34 PM

Can't believe with just a single season absence, people think GSW is now done.

The process of thinking strategies is continuous, even by any teams. It's just that the process isn't done overnight. Give them time.

That happens every season. Remember when Lebron didn't made it on the finals during the other season, cmiiw. Fans thought that him and his team will never create a comeback. But just look at the recent season, they've made it. And I think for GSW, they are also going through the same process. I mean this is applicable for most teams that are going through a tough process, they're all possibly going to have a lot of changes which they think is necessary for them to step up.

The expectation of the people is just high, actually they look absent as they lose in the last NBA Finals, and this season they didn't even qualify in the playoffs, and we can also consider that Durant is not anymore with the team which was their Finals MVP the time when they won a championship, now we have the Lakers who are the champ, it's nice that GSW was underrated again so we can get a great odds betting on them.

They'll come back, that's for sure.

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Quote from: harizen on October 18, 2020, 02:09:34 PM

Can't believe with just a single season absence, people think GSW is now done.

The process of thinking strategies is continuous, even by any teams. It's just that the process isn't done overnight. Give them time.

That happens every season. Remember when Lebron didn't made it on the finals during the other season, cmiiw. Fans thought that him and his team will never create a comeback. But just look at the recent season, they've made it. And I think for GSW, they are also going through the same process. I mean this is applicable for most teams that are going through a tough process, they're all possibly going to have a lot of changes which they think is necessary for them to step up.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on October 18, 2020, 05:22:08 PM

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Quote from: harizen on October 18, 2020, 02:09:34 PM

Can't believe with just a single season absence, people think GSW is now done.

The process of thinking strategies is continuous, even by any teams. It's just that the process isn't done overnight. Give them time.

This season showed us that the Warriors didn't can anything without their leaders, and we can only assume that Curry and Thompson will continue to play at the same high level as they played before injuries.

They don't have strong bench players so its expected that they cant do anything and as said that they should at least put up some budget on putting up better ones?

For sure there would be a comeback but the question is, they would really able to compete on the current roster of those powerhouse teams at the moment?
Not to underestimate but that wont really be an easy comeback.

We will see, the warriors became popular with Curry and Thompson only, these 2 splash brothers are very consistent, great 3 point shooters, they just need to add more role players to help them and it's not a problem as the warriors are playing a good ball passing which will give these 2 more open shots.

Actually, the system of the Warriors makes the players better.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on October 18, 2020, 04:48:43 PM

Quote from: harizen on October 18, 2020, 02:09:34 PM

Can't believe with just a single season absence, people think GSW is now done.

The process of thinking strategies is continuous, even by any teams. It's just that the process isn't done overnight. Give them time.

This season showed us that the Warriors didn't can anything without their leaders, and we can only assume that Curry and Thompson will continue to play at the same high level as they played before injuries.

They don't have strong bench players so its expected that they cant do anything and as said that they should at least put up some budget on putting up better ones?

For sure there would be a comeback but the question is, they would really able to compete on the current roster of those powerhouse teams at the moment?
Not to underestimate but that wont really be an easy comeback.

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Quote from: harizen on October 18, 2020, 02:09:34 PM

Can't believe with just a single season absence, people think GSW is now done.

The process of thinking strategies is continuous, even by any teams. It's just that the process isn't done overnight. Give them time.

This season showed us that the Warriors didn't can anything without their leaders, and we can only assume that Curry and Thompson will continue to play at the same high level as they played before injuries.

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Quote from: NotATether on October 18, 2020, 01:56:52 PM

I feel that Warriors have been relying too much on three-pointers from the splash brothers and the team needs to explore other strategies to keep them afloat.

Take note that strategy is their solution to compete with the best during their hard and difficult time. They made that built from scratch so it's inappropriate to say that they relying too much on three-point shooting. Back then, the suggested advice to them is to focus on the outside area since they are being dominated in the paint by other teams. And look at the progress, it becomes successful and their 3 chips is a living proof to that.

It's no secret that their core players become affected by the injuries last season. Surely, they will bounce back. Can't believe with just a single season absence, people think GSW is now done.

The process of thinking strategies is continuous, even by any teams. It's just that the process isn't done overnight. Give them time.

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So how should GSW fix themselves after a bad 2020 season performance? Usually they make it to the Finals but I think them not getting in the Bubble this year had something to do with Curry's injury, he could've changed things around if he was playing.

The Warriors have some of the best players like Green, Curry and Thompson. They're all making big money from their contracts and that adds to the problem of Warriors not having enough money to invest in additional good players. So mediocre players end up playing alongside them, and the risk of not qualifying to the playoffs is compounded if their top players get injured. I feel that Warriors have been relying too much on three-pointers from the splash brothers and the team needs to explore other strategies to keep them afloat.

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Quote from: sana54210 on October 18, 2020, 10:50:57 AM

When you are an MVP player, and you get one of your closest friends since you are a little kid to come play with you on the same team (once again) you are not going to say "we will probably be eliminated in the second round" you are definitely going to say that you are going to win the championship. Hell there are so many players in bad teams that said the same sort of stuff.

I do not remember who was it, tristian thompson maybe, when Lebron went to Lakers one of cavs players said "east still goes through us first", well he was sort of right, east went through them alright Cheesy

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So, do not expect players to be humble, you have to have a mindset that you are the best ever in order to go out there and give your %100 otherwise if you play with "we are not good at all" you are going to not win neither.

Talking about ego, which means a lot to them especially when you are an American thinking you have the wildest salary of them all.
it happens. Shit happens. Grin

Lebron took them to a playoffs game like almost every year and that could suffocate your head.
But without him, look at the Cavs.
Leadership is such a strong trait of a player.
It may look like Lebron is just ordering them but that's not it.
Goals, championships, and leadership is the main core of that dude.

Fuck! I am not even a fan.

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Quote from: sana54210 on October 18, 2020, 10:50:57 AM

When you are an MVP player, and you get one of your closest friends since you are a little kid to come play with you on the same team (once again) you are not going to say "we will probably be eliminated in the second round" you are definitely going to say that you are going to win the championship. Hell there are so many players in bad teams that said the same sort of stuff.

I do not remember who was it, tristian thompson maybe, when Lebron went to Lakers one of cavs players said "east still goes through us first", well he was sort of right, east went through them alright Cheesy

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So, do not expect players to be humble, you have to have a mindset that you are the best ever in order to go out there and give your %100 otherwise if you play with "we are not good at all" you are going to not win neither.

First thing comes into players minds, I wouldn't be here if I don't have the kills and capabilities to play the game, each players have their own pride and even they knew to themselves that it will be very hard.

They will continue to stick with what they've believe, they are still contenders and they still have the capabilities to compete and survive.

Not a question but it's inside the players mindsets, they will try to prove something
even it's ready tough or already far from realizations.

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When you are an MVP player, and you get one of your closest friends since you are a little kid to come play with you on the same team (once again) you are not going to say "we will probably be eliminated in the second round" you are definitely going to say that you are going to win the championship. Hell there are so many players in bad teams that said the same sort of stuff.

I do not remember who was it, tristian thompson maybe, when Lebron went to Lakers one of cavs players said "east still goes through us first", well he was sort of right, east went through them alright Cheesy

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So, do not expect players to be humble, you have to have a mindset that you are the best ever in order to go out there and give your %100 otherwise if you play with "we are not good at all" you are going to not win neither.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on October 18, 2020, 01:25:59 AM

Do you remember in one post game interview after the Houston was eliminated and Harden was asked some questions and he said, "we know what to do" and maybe he talk to Daryl then and the next thing we know, CP3 was out and there was a trade. And at the beginning, there has some argument that those two Harden and WB could co-exists. Well there are some who says that they will, but majority says otherwise. Then they experiment of going small, was effective no doubt, but it won't bring championships though.

The "we" word might have said it all. Right? Grin

He may lie to CP3 but he is not kidding a baby. That is one hell of a grown man who had been in different teams.
He knows who is lying or not. CP3 may have known it since the gossip came out.

Quote from: LogitechMouse on October 17, 2020, 09:15:17 PM

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A good team with a knowledgeable coach on how Phil Jackson rotate them.
I think this had been an easy job for Steve.
Specially, when Thompson and Curry comes back.

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Quote from: TGD on October 18, 2020, 05:33:05 AM

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I think that the best time wherein Houston could have stop GSW on it's track and probably this two will have a great rivalry in the West, however, the next season when CP3 was healthy, it was totally different Houston that we have seen, but that version of Houston could be the closest, on how CP3 was playing and James Harden game, lots of 'what if'.

It was really great, it tells us how valuable CP3 than Westbrook, they bring the game in game 7 and Rockets has a great chance of winning if CP3 was not injured that time, they tried twice actually before CP3 was traded fro Westbrook but still failed, I think we can understand that as GSW was really a super team, if Without Durant, Rockets chance was higher.

Good analysis, you guys. Grin

No questions, I'd also pick CP3 over Westbrook.
Not about the stats, but about how to make it a real team.
CP3 is not about making a point, it's about the play. That is also why I picked him as one of the greatest pointguards in NBA.
But putting 2 MVP's who likes making points will clash. It did happen.

I don't know what made Daryl decide to take WB rather than giving CP3 a chance. Harden maybe behind that decision too. (I am just assuming.)
CP3 asked him about that and he said no. I doubt he will say yes. Grin

Do you remember in one post game interview after the Houston was eliminated and Harden was asked some questions and he said, "we know what to do" and maybe he talk to Daryl then and the next thing we know, CP3 was out and there was a trade. And at the beginning, there has some argument that those two Harden and WB could co-exists. Well there are some who says that they will, but majority says otherwise. Then they experiment of going small, was effective no doubt, but it won't bring championships though.

Harden as the best player of the team has the power to influence the top management in making a decision, but he should not be trusted as his decision is wrong most of the time, and look at his prediction on the 2020 NBA playoffs, he thought WB and him could win a championship but he was wrong.

BIG WRONG!

https://rocketswire.usatoday.com/2019/11/13/james-harden-says-rockets-will-win-2020-nba-championship/

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James Harden says Rockets will win 2020 NBA championship

He always predicting that Rockets will be the champion on the next year but he always choke during playoffs. Its not directly that he is choking but he can't carry his teammates since NBA nowadays allowed a powerhouse team. Nba should restrict an Allstar just like what LeBron james always just to get the championship. He always do it since Miami, Cleveland and now Lakers.

It's not fun to watch anymore Nba especially when 2 bottom teams are fighting to each other unlike before that there's always an Allstar player in every team.

He's just boosting up his team to gain confidence but in reality for sure they also don't know how they will do it they are really lacking with inside defender and also harden is a ball hog. Maybe if they will improve their line up and find some guys who can guard LeBron and Davis or the other strong stars maybe they will get a chances to take the champ next season.

But if they choose to play with their current line up I doubt they will step unto the finals.

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Quote from: TGD on October 18, 2020, 05:33:05 AM

He always predicting that Rockets will be the champion on the next year but he always choke during playoffs. Its not directly that he is choking but he can't carry his teammates since NBA nowadays allowed a powerhouse team.

He didn't choke, Lebron is more a chalker than Harden I believe, Lebron is just smart and knows how to find a good teammates.

Quote from: TGD on October 18, 2020, 05:33:05 AM

Nba should restrict an Allstar just like what LeBron james always just to get the championship. He always do it since Miami, Cleveland and now Lakers.

He lead by example, some stars just follow.
The current line up of the Lakers who won a championship was full of all stars. They have Rondo, Davis, Howard, etc. (if there's more I forgot to mentioned)

Quote from: TGD on October 18, 2020, 05:33:05 AM

It's not fun to watch anymore Nba especially when 2 bottom teams are fighting to each other unlike before that there's always an Allstar player in every team.

I guess they'll not do anything about that, NBA nowadays are soft and they allow this, players in the past has good reputation as an athlete as they are warriors at the same time, I love the physicality during the MJ era.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on October 17, 2020, 07:20:52 AM

I think that the best time wherein Houston could have stop GSW on it's track and probably this two will have a great rivalry in the West, however, the next season when CP3 was healthy, it was totally different Houston that we have seen, but that version of Houston could be the closest, on how CP3 was playing and James Harden game, lots of 'what if'.

It was really great, it tells us how valuable CP3 than Westbrook, they bring the game in game 7 and Rockets has a great chance of winning if CP3 was not injured that time, they tried twice actually before CP3 was traded fro Westbrook but still failed, I think we can understand that as GSW was really a super team, if Without Durant, Rockets chance was higher.

Good analysis, you guys. Grin

No questions, I'd also pick CP3 over Westbrook.
Not about the stats, but about how to make it a real team.
CP3 is not about making a point, it's about the play. That is also why I picked him as one of the greatest pointguards in NBA.
But putting 2 MVP's who likes making points will clash. It did happen.

I don't know what made Daryl decide to take WB rather than giving CP3 a chance. Harden maybe behind that decision too. (I am just assuming.)
CP3 asked him about that and he said no. I doubt he will say yes. Grin

Do you remember in one post game interview after the Houston was eliminated and Harden was asked some questions and he said, "we know what to do" and maybe he talk to Daryl then and the next thing we know, CP3 was out and there was a trade. And at the beginning, there has some argument that those two Harden and WB could co-exists. Well there are some who says that they will, but majority says otherwise. Then they experiment of going small, was effective no doubt, but it won't bring championships though.

Harden as the best player of the team has the power to influence the top management in making a decision, but he should not be trusted as his decision is wrong most of the time, and look at his prediction on the 2020 NBA playoffs, he thought WB and him could win a championship but he was wrong.

BIG WRONG!

https://rocketswire.usatoday.com/2019/11/13/james-harden-says-rockets-will-win-2020-nba-championship/

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James Harden says Rockets will win 2020 NBA championship

He always predicting that Rockets will be the champion on the next year but he always choke during playoffs. Its not directly that he is choking but he can't carry his teammates since NBA nowadays allowed a powerhouse team. Nba should restrict an Allstar just like what LeBron james always just to get the championship. He always do it since Miami, Cleveland and now Lakers.

It's not fun to watch anymore Nba especially when 2 bottom teams are fighting to each other unlike before that there's always an Allstar player in every team.

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Quote from: Reid on October 17, 2020, 12:07:59 PM

Quote from: Maslate on October 17, 2020, 07:27:40 AM

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on October 17, 2020, 07:20:52 AM

I think that the best time wherein Houston could have stop GSW on it's track and probably this two will have a great rivalry in the West, however, the next season when CP3 was healthy, it was totally different Houston that we have seen, but that version of Houston could be the closest, on how CP3 was playing and James Harden game, lots of 'what if'.

It was really great, it tells us how valuable CP3 than Westbrook, they bring the game in game 7 and Rockets has a great chance of winning if CP3 was not injured that time, they tried twice actually before CP3 was traded fro Westbrook but still failed, I think we can understand that as GSW was really a super team, if Without Durant, Rockets chance was higher.

Good analysis, you guys. Grin

No questions, I'd also pick CP3 over Westbrook.
Not about the stats, but about how to make it a real team.
CP3 is not about making a point, it's about the play. That is also why I picked him as one of the greatest pointguards in NBA.
But putting 2 MVP's who likes making points will clash. It did happen.

I don't know what made Daryl decide to take WB rather than giving CP3 a chance. Harden maybe behind that decision too. (I am just assuming.)
CP3 asked him about that and he said no. I doubt he will say yes. Grin

Do you remember in one post game interview after the Houston was eliminated and Harden was asked some questions and he said, "we know what to do" and maybe he talk to Daryl then and the next thing we know, CP3 was out and there was a trade. And at the beginning, there has some argument that those two Harden and WB could co-exists. Well there are some who says that they will, but majority says otherwise. Then they experiment of going small, was effective no doubt, but it won't bring championships though.

Harden as the best player of the team has the power to influence the top management in making a decision, but he should not be trusted as his decision is wrong most of the time, and look at his prediction on the 2020 NBA playoffs, he thought WB and him could win a championship but he was wrong.

BIG WRONG!

https://rocketswire.usatoday.com/2019/11/13/james-harden-says-rockets-will-win-2020-nba-championship/

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James Harden says Rockets will win 2020 NBA championship

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Quote from: Maslate on October 17, 2020, 07:27:40 AM

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on October 17, 2020, 07:20:52 AM

I think that the best time wherein Houston could have stop GSW on it's track and probably this two will have a great rivalry in the West, however, the next season when CP3 was healthy, it was totally different Houston that we have seen, but that version of Houston could be the closest, on how CP3 was playing and James Harden game, lots of 'what if'.

It was really great, it tells us how valuable CP3 than Westbrook, they bring the game in game 7 and Rockets has a great chance of winning if CP3 was not injured that time, they tried twice actually before CP3 was traded fro Westbrook but still failed, I think we can understand that as GSW was really a super team, if Without Durant, Rockets chance was higher.

Good analysis, you guys. Grin

No questions, I'd also pick CP3 over Westbrook.
Not about the stats, but about how to make it a real team.
CP3 is not about making a point, it's about the play. That is also why I picked him as one of the greatest pointguards in NBA.
But putting 2 MVP's who likes making points will clash. It did happen.

I don't know what made Daryl decide to take WB rather than giving CP3 a chance. Harden maybe behind that decision too. (I am just assuming.)
CP3 asked him about that and he said no. I doubt he will say yes. Grin

Do you remember in one post game interview after the Houston was eliminated and Harden was asked some questions and he said, "we know what to do" and maybe he talk to Daryl then and the next thing we know, CP3 was out and there was a trade. And at the beginning, there has some argument that those two Harden and WB could co-exists. Well there are some who says that they will, but majority says otherwise. Then they experiment of going small, was effective no doubt, but it won't bring championships though.

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Quote from: Reid on October 17, 2020, 08:03:01 PM

Warriors news. Scrimmage.
https://warriorswire.usatoday.com/2020/10/17/watch-warriors-release-footage-from-offseason-minicamp-live-scrimmage-at-chase-center/
1st Quarter
First field goal coming from Kevon Looney with a three point shot.
A good sign for the Warriors? They are cooking something out there.

I've been a Warrior fan since they start their journey towards the Playoffs. When they are in the Finals for consecutive times, I've been a fan of the team.
Even though there are some injuries happened to them, KD leaving to the Warriors and other more I still be a Warrior fan.

Definitely they are suiting themselves for the upcoming season. For sure aside from the Lakers and the Nets, this is the team that you need to watch out for. Threes are raining again as long as the Splash Brothers are healthy Cheesy

. They will also get a good player from draft combine. Watch out for this team because they will come back stronger than ever Cheesy

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