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October 20, 2020, 05:24:58 AM

Harden is already good as an individual player, but as a team player, I don't think so, people look at their achievement, unfortunately, Harden has not achieve an NBA championship yet, nor gone in the NBA Finals.
That is the thing about greats and good players. Harden is an amazing player and he is definitely good enough to be called an MVP as well, dude lead the league in scoring titles as well and basically all around a great player that I won't argue against. However players like Kobe, MJ, Lebron leads their teams to championship, there is no player that never went to finals that could ever be considered one of the best to play the game.

Do not tell me coaches or teammates or opponents and what not, Iverson managed to take a team of scrubs that would probably be out of the league by that moment if not for Iverson to finals and even took a game from one of the most dominating forces the league has ever seen. So, there is no point on talking about Harden not making it to finals, he just wasn't good enough for that, he is good but not finals good.

I don't mean to offend the harden's fans but as I search his issue before on google he have so many issues regarding as a bad teammate maybe  this is one of the reason why he cannot brought up his team to the finals since they will be out performed by him due to his attitude? I'm not fan of harden though so maybe I'm miss some information regarding on him.

But let see if he can stand on his claims that he will bring his team in the finals.
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October 20, 2020, 01:19:21 AM
Draymond is not a good shooter but he brings energy to the team, if he sets up good he can shoot in the 3 point line, and that makes him scary. What I like about him is his aggressiveness, his defense is underrated at his size, and his passing ability also is extra ordinary, that's the reason his teammates can find open shots especially Curry and Thompson who are good 3 point shooters.
I agree with that.
But, bad things could happen and it already did. Injuries.
It would be better if they could maximize the capability of everyone to make an offensive attack.
That way, the defense can easily be broken.  Wink

Yes, but it was Harden himself making a prediction that his team will be a champion, but it didn't happen, so I think he should just shut up and do it in action in the court, Curry and Thompson never boost about their team but they are so successful playing together, what the Rockets need is more work less talk.
Lol.  Grin
That's hardcore. I think he did it on purpose as a boost of confidence to his teammates.
But next time, he should be accurate about it.  Grin
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October 20, 2020, 01:04:20 AM

Harden is already good as an individual player, but as a team player, I don't think so, people look at their achievement, unfortunately, Harden has not achieve an NBA championship yet, nor gone in the NBA Finals.
That is the thing about greats and good players. Harden is an amazing player and he is definitely good enough to be called an MVP as well, dude lead the league in scoring titles as well and basically all around a great player that I won't argue against. However players like Kobe, MJ, Lebron leads their teams to championship, there is no player that never went to finals that could ever be considered one of the best to play the game.

Do not tell me coaches or teammates or opponents and what not, Iverson managed to take a team of scrubs that would probably be out of the league by that moment if not for Iverson to finals and even took a game from one of the most dominating forces the league has ever seen. So, there is no point on talking about Harden not making it to finals, he just wasn't good enough for that, he is good but not finals good.
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October 20, 2020, 12:49:56 AM
Harden as the best player of the team has the power to influence the top management in making a decision, but he should not be trusted as his decision is wrong most of the time, and look at his prediction on the 2020 NBA playoffs, he thought WB and him could win a championship but he was wrong.

BIG WRONG!

https://rocketswire.usatoday.com/2019/11/13/james-harden-says-rockets-will-win-2020-nba-championship/

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James Harden says Rockets will win 2020 NBA championship
It's normal to see predictions go wrong. Most of them will always make themselves better than the rest, it's an honor for them to say such words.
Yes, but it was Harden himself making a prediction that his team will be a champion, but it didn't happen, so I think he should just shut up and do it in action in the court, Curry and Thompson never boost about their team but they are so successful playing together, what the Rockets need is more work less talk.
That's what players usually say with their teams. Expect that more talks from him naming their team as the next champion. You could also expect the same from other teams.


Harden is already good as an individual player, but as a team player, I don't think so, people look at their achievement, unfortunately, Harden has not achieve an NBA championship yet, nor gone in the NBA Finals.
There are a lot of good players that haven't got a championship. We will see if these reforming of their roster will do good.
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October 19, 2020, 09:08:02 PM
Just curious here, don't you think that the start of the new season is too late in January 2021?

When they will end the next season  Huh

Wasn't the season supposed to start in December or I missed something?

NBA 2019-20 got halted last March because the pandemic virus entered the NBA environment so the usual schedule also changed.

No surprise if next season will commence in January 2021. Much better rather than a quick opening. Off-season activities can be done within 2 months. I can't consider it as late since it's given. Surely, they can adjust. If everything goes well ( I hope), they can back to normal schedule and activity on the 2021-22 season.

It's much better to try coming back with a normal setups, for sure fans are longing to see how the game really being played and excite every fans everywhere, with the bubble it lessen the entertainment as many fans really wanted to see the game live in actions.
As a fan, we all wanted to see the games to go back with the normal setups engaging the fans again and give them the glimpse of each games, hopefully vaccines already available to fight this virus and bring us to the normal settings again.
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October 19, 2020, 06:36:32 PM
Wasn't the season supposed to start in December or I missed something?

Supposedly every 4th week of November. It's understandable that next season got delayed. NBA bubble started in July with only a few games remaining in the season. If they push for lower teams to also play their remaining games, the period will be long so they decided not all teams will be inside the bubble.

Not just in NBA but other leagues also experience that change of schedule due to pandemic.
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October 19, 2020, 06:34:20 PM
Just curious here, don't you think that the start of the new season is too late in January 2021?

When they will end the next season  Huh

Wasn't the season supposed to start in December or I missed something?

NBA 2019-20 got halted last March because the pandemic virus entered the NBA environment so the usual schedule also changed.

No surprise if next season will commence in January 2021. Much better rather than a quick opening. Off-season activities can be done within 2 months. I can't consider it as late since it's given. Surely, they can adjust. If everything goes well ( I hope), they can back to normal schedule and activity on the 2021-22 season.

As I heard the plan to open the next season is January but  I also think it's good to open it early if this possible since for sure the other players rested already when NBA suspended due to series of lockdowns. But let see on next season since I'm little bored watching the bubble since it's quite expected on who will take the champ and for sure everything we'll be adjust and back to normal on season  2021 - 2022  since I'm sure we have working vaccine and the world is on normal state at that moment.
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October 19, 2020, 06:22:04 PM
Just curious here, don't you think that the start of the new season is too late in January 2021?

When they will end the next season  Huh

Wasn't the season supposed to start in December or I missed something?

NBA 2019-20 got halted last March because the pandemic virus entered the NBA environment so the usual schedule also changed.

No surprise if next season will commence in January 2021. Much better rather than a quick opening. Off-season activities can be done within 2 months. I can't consider it as late since it's given. Surely, they can adjust. If everything goes well ( I hope), they can back to normal schedule and activity on the 2021-22 season.
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October 19, 2020, 06:02:57 PM
Just curious here, don't you think that the start of the new season is too late in January 2021?

When they will end the next season  Huh

Wasn't the season supposed to start in December or I missed something?
Here's some words from Adam silver - NBA Commissioner which said on media.

The 2020-21 NBA season would start around Christmas at its earliest but is much more likely to commence in January of 2021.”

So these are tentative dates and expected for the next season to start.

Source: https://thesportsrush.com/nba-news-when-will-the-next-nba-season-start-adam-silver-provides-update-on-2020-21-nba-season-schedule/
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October 19, 2020, 05:29:28 PM
Just curious here, don't you think that the start of the new season is too late in January 2021?

When they will end the next season  Huh

Wasn't the season supposed to start in December or I missed something?

If we think about current situation, global pandemic is not over and everything is out of normal, so they should figure out a better way for this season. These 2 seasons will be exceptional, it will be in history books for sure.

Normally we have too much time for off-season, draft, trades and such. But now we have a bubble in our hands. Grin
Maybe they will shorten regular season and play-offs will be played in expected time, I don't know. Have you heard about the final planning of the season?
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October 19, 2020, 04:57:36 PM
Just curious here, don't you think that the start of the new season is too late in January 2021?

When they will end the next season  Huh

Wasn't the season supposed to start in December or I missed something?
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October 19, 2020, 01:40:04 PM

Our poll question was about championship and almost half of the voters guessed it right. Thank you to everybody who vote and joined discussion.
We didn't expect this at the beginning of the season but after the bubble it was pretty obvious. Congratulations to whole Lakers organisation.
Thanks to lakers coz I won a local bet from my friend lol I was really rooting for the Lakers since Lebron got there, I always follow lebron's team and roots to it, he's just a better player inside and outside the court. Props to Miami Heat and Spo, that was a real hustle especially Jimmy, He's worth a salute of NBA fans out there. Congratulation to Lakers!  Grin
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October 19, 2020, 01:22:38 PM

Yes, but it was Harden himself making a prediction that his team will be a champion, but it didn't happen, so I think he should just shut up and do it in action in the court, Curry and Thompson never boost about their team but they are so successful playing together, what the Rockets need is more work less talk.

Anyone does have the right to talk in regards to his insights or goals ahead.If he had said that they'll win 2020 championship then its sad that it didnt happen.Pretty sure that
majority of teams do really aim in the same target or goal.The difference is that Harden is just tactful on whats up into his mind and i agree that it would be better to be silent
and do the job or work hard to achieve it.It is much more appealing if you arent really boasting and acting that you are better than everyone else.
It would really just end up on frustration and crticism.
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October 19, 2020, 11:48:43 AM
Question:   2020 NBA Champion?
Clippers   - 28 (22.6%)
Lakers   - 61 (49.2%)
Bucks   - 7 (5.6%)
Rockets   - 4 (3.2%)
Sixers   - 1 (0.8%)
Warriors   - 9 (7.3%)
Jazz   - 1 (0.8%)
Nuggets   - 6 (4.8%)
Celtics   - 1 (0.8%)
Other   - 6 (4.8%)

Total Voters: 124

Our poll question was about championship and almost half of the voters guessed it right. Thank you to everybody who vote and joined discussion.
We didn't expect this at the beginning of the season but after the bubble it was pretty obvious. Congratulations to whole Lakers organisation.
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October 19, 2020, 09:38:27 AM
They will bounce back, I am sure about that.
Even without KD, they can make it happen. They don't really have him in the first place.
I am sure there will be exciting trades will happen again but I'm not expecting a Superstar to fill that in but more like to fill the missing role they don't have that much right now like a Center and a reserve player/s for that role. I am not expecting they will be that explosive since their main players are just getting back from rehabilitation from their injuries but having those the kind of Curry and Thompson on the court really makes a big difference they really put a show.
Yeah, if you look at their roster, they don't really have a center.
It is just Kevon Looney and Draymond Green who will play that position.
I think they can manage that since a lot of teams now are doing the same.
Improvements is want I want to see especially with Draymond. I hope he already learned to shoot now making the team more frightening.  Cheesy

Draymond is not a good shooter but he brings energy to the team, if he sets up good he can shoot in the 3 point line, and that makes him scary. What I like about him is his aggressiveness, his defense is underrated at his size, and his passing ability also is extra ordinary, that's the reason his teammates can find open shots especially Curry and Thompson who are good 3 point shooters.

Last time they went champ, they had big mans who really played well, IIRC, Bogut and Mcgee, these are the bigs who also help the Warriors to gain championships. Warriors need to get a big man, if they can get Howard, it would be a great addition to the team as long as he keep his cool all the time.
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October 19, 2020, 09:24:16 AM
That's already a new poll stadus?
I'm kinda loss now, haha..
It's okay. That happens to all of us.  Wink

They will bounce back, I am sure about that.
Even without KD, they can make it happen. They don't really have him in the first place.
I am sure there will be exciting trades will happen again but I'm not expecting a Superstar to fill that in but more like to fill the missing role they don't have that much right now like a Center and a reserve player/s for that role. I am not expecting they will be that explosive since their main players are just getting back from rehabilitation from their injuries but having those the kind of Curry and Thompson on the court really makes a big difference they really put a show.
Yeah, if you look at their roster, they don't really have a center.
It is just Kevon Looney and Draymond Green who will play that position.
I think they can manage that since a lot of teams now are doing the same.
Improvements is want I want to see especially with Draymond. I hope he already learned to shoot now making the team more frightening.  Cheesy
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October 19, 2020, 06:28:03 AM
Harden as the best player of the team has the power to influence the top management in making a decision, but he should not be trusted as his decision is wrong most of the time, and look at his prediction on the 2020 NBA playoffs, he thought WB and him could win a championship but he was wrong.

BIG WRONG!

https://rocketswire.usatoday.com/2019/11/13/james-harden-says-rockets-will-win-2020-nba-championship/

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James Harden says Rockets will win 2020 NBA championship
It's normal to see predictions go wrong. Most of them will always make themselves better than the rest, it's an honor for them to say such words.
Yes, but it was Harden himself making a prediction that his team will be a champion, but it didn't happen, so I think he should just shut up and do it in action in the court, Curry and Thompson never boost about their team but they are so successful playing together, what the Rockets need is more work less talk.



Harden is already good as an individual player, but as a team player, I don't think so, people look at their achievement, unfortunately, Harden has not achieve an NBA championship yet, nor gone in the NBA Finals.
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October 19, 2020, 04:31:50 AM
Harden as the best player of the team has the power to influence the top management in making a decision, but he should not be trusted as his decision is wrong most of the time, and look at his prediction on the 2020 NBA playoffs, he thought WB and him could win a championship but he was wrong.

BIG WRONG!

https://rocketswire.usatoday.com/2019/11/13/james-harden-says-rockets-will-win-2020-nba-championship/

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James Harden says Rockets will win 2020 NBA championship
It's normal to see predictions go wrong. Most of them will always make themselves better than the rest, it's an honor for them to say such words.

Speaking of Harden.

--> https://www.essentiallysports.com/nba-news-dont-think-anybody-saw-that-coming-former-nba-champion-lauds-james-harden-for-his-rise-chris-bosh-houston-rockets-basketball/
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October 19, 2020, 03:15:39 AM
One thing that is also forgotten. It's their defense which made them win championships.
How can you take a lead if you cannot even defend first? That include the switches made by the whole team that is not shown in their statistics.

Speaking of switches. I remembered their Double Screen Play or also known as “Elevator Doors” we’re Curry or Klay run through and quickly accelerate in the middle of his team the would close the doors from the defender. That screen play is one of the best, beautiful and amazing.

Some great clips of it. Here
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October 19, 2020, 03:10:09 AM
They will bounce back, I am sure about that.
Even without KD, they can make it happen. They don't really have him in the first place.
I am sure there will be exciting trades will happen again but I'm not expecting a Superstar to fill that in but more like to fill the missing role they don't have that much right now like a Center and a reserve player/s for that role. I am not expecting they will be that explosive since their main players are just getting back from rehabilitation from their injuries but having those the kind of Curry and Thompson on the court really makes a big difference they really put a show.

Warriors are great because of the fans, so I'm hoping that next season it's not the same set up as the bubble.
I hope so too and seeing those replays of Finals before this bubble it made me realize that's it's really have more thrill and excitement rather than this bubble. I wonder who would won the Finals this season if the past setup's has been the same?
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