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Quote from: Reid on January 31, 2020, 05:50:02 AM

Knicks can recover from all of it but they need a total change with their roster. 1 star may be enough and 1 veteran to give good insights.

Not sure who can save them but I have one guy in my mind right now.
We are aware that Leonard likes to transfer in a team after he give a team a championship, maybe if Leonard will give the Clippers a championship this season, he would go the NY Knicks after his contract expires, I mean, he is the most qualified guy to make the team a playoff team, just like what he did with the Raptors which he even gave them their first championship.

Leonard signed 3 years with Clippers - https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2845018-kawhi-leonard-reportedly-signs-3-year-103m-max-contract-with-clippers

but he will ask to be traded like what he did with the spurs back then, then then my imagination might come into reality.

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The Knicks only have a decent line up with Melo (I don't remember what year was it) after that, It became worse every year. 2 decades is such a hilarious length of time for a team to consistently struggle lol.

Maybe they got disappointed with getting Melo and now they are trying to rebuild but they've been figuring it out for decades and still can't find a solution to improve the team. It was Brooklyn who are more eager to improve that's why they sign Durant and Irving altogether, but as of now they are still in experimentation stage as there's not guarantee Durant would be the same Durant when he comes back.

If Knicks will improve in the following season then surely the East would also be fun to watch, right now, there are only few good teams in the East.

If they can't figure it by this time, then something is wrong with the New York management here. They have the money and the experience if I'm right, it's just a matter of execution I guess.

Fans are getting disappointed with the Knicks and I would say that they are the laughing stock of the league. Teams are improving, willing to shell out millions if not billions to get things done, but the Knicks management is going on the opposite side of the pole.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on January 31, 2020, 01:47:11 AM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on January 31, 2020, 01:24:33 AM

Allan houston era was the last good one with all the miami rivalry games. Knicks had one decent season with melo and even then they were never in position to go far in the playoffs, they need to stack draft assets and hope one of these draft picks hit

personally I don't know the guy, maybe you really are a long time fan of NBA. salute to you!

He was signed at Knicks 1996. Well, Knicks was already good at that time and even went to the Finals at 93.
Why?
Talk about a good roster.
Ewing, Starks, Doc Rivers, Harper, Mason and Oakley. The team of Giants. Grin

They lost against the Houston at 93 but after that, they had been always a playoffs contender and even winning against the Bulls at 96.

Their last playoffs appearance was 2012-13 with a gigantic roster too.
Carmelo, Marcus Camby, Amare Stoudemire, Tyson Chandler, Kenyon Martin.
Their small line up are JR Smith, Jason Kidd, Raymond Felton and Quentin Richardson.
Who else could you ask for?

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Quote from: Sanitough on January 31, 2020, 04:33:34 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on January 31, 2020, 03:52:25 AM

The Knicks only have a decent line up with Melo (I don't remember what year was it) after that, It became worse every year. 2 decades is such a hilarious length of time for a team to consistently struggle lol.

Maybe they got disappointed with getting Melo and now they are trying to rebuild but they've been figuring it out for decades and still can't find a solution to improve the team. It was Brooklyn who are more eager to improve that's why they sign Durant and Irving altogether, but as of now they are still in experimentation stage as there's not guarantee Durant would be the same Durant when he comes back.

If Knicks will improve in the following season then surely the East would also be fun to watch, right now, there are only few good teams in the East.

I think it was Stephen Smith which is really mad about it.
The guy is a pure Knicks fan and when Brooklyn signed Durant and Irving on the first place he was so mad at First Take.

I can still remember his face. He don't want to lose with any arguments about it.
And then, they let Kristaps go which made him real angry. Cheesy

Knicks can recover from all of it but they need a total change with their roster. 1 star may be enough and 1 veteran to give good insights.

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Quote from: Oasisman on January 31, 2020, 03:52:25 AM

The Knicks only have a decent line up with Melo (I don't remember what year was it) after that, It became worse every year. 2 decades is such a hilarious length of time for a team to consistently struggle lol.

Maybe they got disappointed with getting Melo and now they are trying to rebuild but they've been figuring it out for decades and still can't find a solution to improve the team. It was Brooklyn who are more eager to improve that's why they sign Durant and Irving altogether, but as of now they are still in experimentation stage as there's not guarantee Durant would be the same Durant when he comes back.

If Knicks will improve in the following season then surely the East would also be fun to watch, right now, there are only few good teams in the East.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on January 31, 2020, 01:47:11 AM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on January 31, 2020, 01:24:33 AM

Knicks have sucked for 2 decades.

That's for bringing facts and educating us, I don't know its already 2 decades, that's 20 years, right.
I don't know when they will wake up but 20 years is too much to still continue as a shitty team.

New York is a very popular city in America that generates a lot of income, how come It seems that their management didn't do something to improve their line up.
The Knicks only have a decent line up with Melo (I don't remember what year was it) after that, It became worse every year. 2 decades is such a hilarious length of time for a team to consistently struggle lol.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on January 31, 2020, 01:47:11 AM

personally I don't know the guy, maybe you really are a long time fan of NBA. salute to you!

Me either, but according to my research, this guy has played his last season in the NBA on 2004-05 season.
source : https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/houstal01.html

his average is not so great, I don't know why the knicks that time is better compared after the succeeding season, maybe those who can tell are those who were actively watching that time.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on January 31, 2020, 01:24:33 AM

Knicks have sucked for 2 decades.

That's for bringing facts and educating us, I don't know its already 2 decades, that's 20 years, right.
I don't know when they will wake up but 20 years is too much to still continue as a shitty team.

Quote from: wheelz1200 on January 31, 2020, 01:24:33 AM

Allan houston era was the last good one with all the miami rivalry games. Knicks had one decent season with melo and even then they were never in position to go far in the playoffs, they need to stack draft assets and hope one of these draft picks hit

personally I don't know the guy, maybe you really are a long time fan of NBA. salute to you!

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Quote from: Sanitough on January 30, 2020, 05:28:20 PM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on January 30, 2020, 04:55:45 PM

Hopefully they arent dumb enough to keep these guys around for what is essentially another lost season.

The NY Knicks has become a disappointment team after Melo traded to OKlahoma Thunder, they were better with Melo as they experience to be in the playoffs. https://www.nba.com/article/2017/09/25/new-york-knicks-trade-carmelo-anthony-oklahoma-city-thunder

They need to rebuild again with young players, change the management or hire a new coach, AGAIN.
If the teams like Celtics have success with rebuilding, they sure can do that also..

Look OKC now, we thought they'll be a shitty team but they weren't they were full of surprises with Paul.
I wish one day we can see this team to be more competitive again.

Knicks have sucked for 2 decades. Allan houston era was the last good one with all the miami rivalry games. Knicks had one decent season with melo and even then they were never in position to go far in the playoffs, they need to stack draft assets and hope one of these draft picks hit

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it is the matter of how would they be composed on that hard game.

That's exactly what they need to do, in the last east finals, they lost their composure during the last 4 games so they lose against the Raptors.
Possibly they can beat the Raptors now with the current line up, but they might struggle again facing other teams, so they need to pass that challenge.

Well it is really tough to handle frustrations especially if you are so eager to win but patience is a virtue, eventually they will find a good way to break that defense. Also, they should use the aura of Giannis so they can rotate the offense to other players. I just hope Giannis would not be forced to do something that might end up having himself an injury.

Chances that they've matured enough not to focused with Giannis alone will help them to have a better chances to win the eastern finals.
With how they are playing right now and how they move the ball it's good to see a well balanced rotations, even Giannis is their main offensive
weapon but the supporting cast are also bringing the challenge and contributes.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on January 29, 2020, 07:46:16 AM

It will be a different playoffs now for the Bucks as Giannis can shoot threes now.

The question is, if he will be given a good looks, their opponent knows his capabilities, last playoffs the Raptors put good defense on Giannis but putting two defender on him and sometimes even 3 and that made him struggle, so as the whole team.

Right, as playoffs are different atmosphere and the defense is tighter than regular games. I think if Giannis will play more as facilitator just like LeBron or maybe the Bucks can bring someone who can be a sidekick of Giannis, then that would be a different story.

Upgrade the passing capability of Giannis.
First he was a tall man with long reach. He could see at a wider range and that means he knows who will be open.
It takes experience too which he doesn't have much by now. It could be their ace for getting that championship even with the strong West.

I remember Steve Nash when he won 2 time season MVP.
Despite being small he could see all the players and mentally, he is always active to whom will defend him.
And experience too.

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Quote from: morvillz7z on January 30, 2020, 06:10:04 PM

https://www.slamonline.com/nba/aaron-gordon-commits-to-slam-dunk-contest/

The 2020 All-Star weekend is coming soon, two weeks from now and we have Aaron Gordon confirming today that he will participate in the NBA Slam Dunk Contest (joining Dwight Howard and Derrick Jones Jr.). Since the event is in Chicago, do you think Zach LaVine will enter the contest too? The 2016 dunk contest battle between the two was pretty damn good. I'm sure Gordon would want a re-match. (fingers crossed)

Yes, yes, Rematch!!! Cheesy

Those two will be competitive but I don't think Dwight will.
Will it just be another comedy for him? (No harm, no bash, that is just how I see it.) Grin

I hope not.

Quote from: Sanitough on January 30, 2020, 05:28:20 PM

The NY Knicks has become a disappointment team after Melo traded to OKlahoma Thunder, they were better with Melo as they experience to be in the playoffs. https://www.nba.com/article/2017/09/25/new-york-knicks-trade-carmelo-anthony-oklahoma-city-thunder

They need to rebuild again with young players, change the management or hire a new coach, AGAIN.
If the teams like Celtics have success with rebuilding, they sure can do that also..

Look OKC now, we thought they'll be a shitty team but they weren't they were full of surprises with Paul.
I wish one day we can see this team to be more competitive again.

I have the same hopes. Their fans are getting restless for all the trades and then taking young kids for a reason of rebuilding.
They still need a veteran, someone to give some good lessons to the kids and then some advise.
Will it happen next year?

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Quote from: Kasabus on January 30, 2020, 04:57:22 PM

Quote from: FlightyPouch on January 30, 2020, 04:52:10 PM

it is the matter of how would they be composed on that hard game.

That's exactly what they need to do, in the last east finals, they lost their composure during the last 4 games so they lose against the Raptors.
Possibly they can beat the Raptors now with the current line up, but they might struggle again facing other teams, so they need to pass that challenge.

Well it is really tough to handle frustrations especially if you are so eager to win but patience is a virtue, eventually they will find a good way to break that defense. Also, they should use the aura of Giannis so they can rotate the offense to other players. I just hope Giannis would not be forced to do something that might end up having himself an injury.

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Quote from: NavI_027 on January 30, 2020, 06:19:33 PM

Quote from: morvillz7z on January 30, 2020, 06:10:04 PM

https://www.slamonline.com/nba/aaron-gordon-commits-to-slam-dunk-contest/

The 2020 All-Star weekend is coming soon, two weeks from now and we have Aaron Gordon confirming today that he will participate in the NBA Slam Dunk Contest (joining Dwight Howard and Derrick Jones Jr.). Since the event is in Chicago, do you think Zach LaVine will enter the contest too? The 2016 dunk contest battle between the two was pretty damn good. I'm sure Gordon would want a re-match. (fingers crossed)

Wait, what did you say?! Howard will join again? Wow! That's the spirit Cheesy

. What I think is that he is already old for this contest — the Superman is no longer on his prime. But to be honest he is in a better shape today comparing before so who knows what he can still offer to us. I'm really excited to see him aiming for a free throw line dunk omce again

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We will see, but it's confirmed that he will participate.
https://www.slamonline.com/nba/dwight-howard-to-participate-in-slam-dunk-contest/
He might be an old Howard but his athleticism is still fun to watch, we are not expecting that he will again win the contest, but who knows.

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Quote from: morvillz7z on January 30, 2020, 06:10:04 PM

https://www.slamonline.com/nba/aaron-gordon-commits-to-slam-dunk-contest/

The 2020 All-Star weekend is coming soon, two weeks from now and we have Aaron Gordon confirming today that he will participate in the NBA Slam Dunk Contest (joining Dwight Howard and Derrick Jones Jr.). Since the event is in Chicago, do you think Zach LaVine will enter the contest too? The 2016 dunk contest battle between the two was pretty damn good. I'm sure Gordon would want a re-match. (fingers crossed)

Wait, what did you say?! Howard will join again? Wow! That's the spirit Cheesy

. What I think is that he is already old for this contest — the Superman is no longer on his prime. But to be honest he is in a better shape today comparing before so who knows what he can still offer to us. I'm really excited to see him aiming for a free throw line dunk omce again

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https://www.slamonline.com/nba/aaron-gordon-commits-to-slam-dunk-contest/

The 2020 All-Star weekend is coming soon, two weeks from now and we have Aaron Gordon confirming today that he will participate in the NBA Slam Dunk Contest (joining Dwight Howard and Derrick Jones Jr.). Since the event is in Chicago, do you think Zach LaVine will enter the contest too? The 2016 dunk contest battle between the two was pretty damn good. I'm sure Gordon would want a re-match. (fingers crossed)

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on January 30, 2020, 04:55:45 PM

Hopefully they arent dumb enough to keep these guys around for what is essentially another lost season.

The NY Knicks has become a disappointment team after Melo traded to OKlahoma Thunder, they were better with Melo as they experience to be in the playoffs. https://www.nba.com/article/2017/09/25/new-york-knicks-trade-carmelo-anthony-oklahoma-city-thunder

They need to rebuild again with young players, change the management or hire a new coach, AGAIN.
If the teams like Celtics have success with rebuilding, they sure can do that also..

Look OKC now, we thought they'll be a shitty team but they weren't they were full of surprises with Paul.
I wish one day we can see this team to be more competitive again.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on January 30, 2020, 04:55:45 PM

I'm hoping the knicks are smart and move some of their veterans pieces at the deadline for some either young players or draft capital. No need to keep Morris on the team and a fringe title contender would definately want him. Hopefully they arent dumb enough to keep these guys around for what is essentially another lost season.

As part of the preparation for next season that will be a good move. Disposing veterans for young ones within the same or around its value. I'm sure they will joined the free agency market next year that's why no big moves were done this season since no need to as they are on the bottom of the standings.

Next draft pick, they will have a chance to pick those on the top rookies. As far as I remember they didn't trade any of their future rounds picks so I think we can see a new and modified New York Knicks next season.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on January 30, 2020, 04:52:10 PM

it is the matter of how would they be composed on that hard game.

That's exactly what they need to do, in the last east finals, they lost their composure during the last 4 games so they lose against the Raptors.
Possibly they can beat the Raptors now with the current line up, but they might struggle again facing other teams, so they need to pass that challenge.

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And then levelling up like Lebron, might take lots of games though, to see him carrying the ball and orchestrating the offense from the outside, but everything is in baby steps for him and the Bucks.

To level with Lebron, Giannis has to prove that he can win championship first, if they will be more successful this season and win in the East and will happen that Bucks and Lakers will face in the finals, then that's the time to prove he can level by defeating the king.

I'm sure every team in the NBA is chasing or wanting to become a champion not just Giannis. We can't really tell the future, but we all witnessed the he and the Bucks are trying to push themselves this year or the next years to come to become a champion.

It's a long way to go but we will see, it's going to be tough for him when Lebron is still around. But if he can win one at this era wherein James is still playing then it will add up to his legacy in the future.

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