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Quote from: Japinat on February 03, 2020, 07:29:46 AM

Quote from: danherbias07 on February 03, 2020, 07:22:27 AM

Looking at the stats I will also go for DLo.
Consistency? Yes, I am still with DLo now.
If we talk about before then I might really pick Andrew Wiggins against him.

GSW though is still in lack of something else.
A strong center maybe or another forward to lessen the workload of Draymond. He is getting punished so much down the rim which could lead to a lot of injuries. Better have some back up there.

Warriors were successful in the past without having a superstar center so they don't need that for sure.
Of course they need someone to help Draymond but that's not lacking, they have to focus on what they really need right now and that is to improve their defense since the Warriors although an extraordinary team in offense but they are also know for their good defense and that's their recipe for success.

We've seen enough for Dlo, he can drop 50 points or more but would that make the team better in overall?

Or health issues. Grin

They have been filled with injured players which ain't really good.
I know those things are unexpected but still they might still want to consider improving it.
Like footworks or something new that would prevent those kind of injuries.

Regarding the roster, I am still seeing Draymond Green having a difficult time as being a center for most of the time.
He really need help. We cannot say because they did it the past means they can still do it.
The West is filled with strong teams now. This time it's different.

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Quote from: chaser15 on February 03, 2020, 04:17:56 PM

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I feel like D'lo would still be superior to Wiggins when it comes to GSW, not for every team, for example I would put Wiggins over D'lo in current rockets if they were up there, but for warriors system the player who has a better shooting is actually more important. They built the whole system in such a way that even Durant became a spot up shooter after a certain while, that means D'lo is more valuable to warriors specially when Klay is gone.

If I understand about basketball even a bit, when Klay comes back he might actually transition to Small Forward a bit more, with Curry at PG and D'lo at SG, he will be perfect for SF when he comes back, plus he will be a bit slower so it will be harder for him to keep defending the guards of the other team as well.

Klay don't have any difficulties playing at either SG and SF. In the Warriors system, actually this position is just a position meaning anyone here can be placed. Durant even playing SF covers the PF to Center position during his stay here.

For the rumors, I doubt Warriors will trade D'Lo for Wiggins but they can offer something. Wiggins+D'Lo will be a good backcourt duo especially when Klay and Steph got back. No need to trade D'Lo as he is now familiar with Kerr's system.

Those are some good points there.
Yeah, although I want Wiggins in but it looks like it wont happen.
There is no problem with the contract since they have almost the same cap.

But if we all do remember it correctly, they took DLo as an ace for a better trade.
Is Wiggins that better trade which GSW is looking for?
No, I don't think so. The GSW management might be looking for a superstar and will just add up some space for whoever it will be.

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Good W for the Lakers and they are back.

They are certainly back making big statement on the the road.
Time to back them again, seems like the hearts are healing now and they are playing the normal game which they are dominating.

Meanwhile, games today are too early so I wasn't able to make bets on all the games on board.
As of now, all games are finished, and all Home team won.

Yes, mentally, it looks like they are more focus, it's hard to move on, but they have to do it right now.

As far as the D'Lo-Wiggins trade rumour, I don't understand why the rumour pops up, D'Lo is doing good on Kerr's system and with Klay playing next year, we will see the true potential of their combination. They should good a role player to help Green instead, not trade one of their stars.

But overall as a team they are not good, It's not the Warriors offense that we are seeing now, that's why they lose because they are not sharing the ball pretty well compared to when Curry is on the line up and he hold the position of the PG, if the defense is on him, he can easily find a open teammates, that's why they are exciting.

Though Dlo per stats are good but GSW holding the worst record in the NBA, the management should also think on how that happens.

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Quote from: Viscore on February 02, 2020, 05:25:05 PM

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Good W for the Lakers and they are back.

They are certainly back making big statement on the the road.
Time to back them again, seems like the hearts are healing now and they are playing the normal game which they are dominating.

Meanwhile, games today are too early so I wasn't able to make bets on all the games on board.
As of now, all games are finished, and all Home team won.

Yes, mentally, it looks like they are more focus, it's hard to move on, but they have to do it right now.

As far as the D'Lo-Wiggins trade rumour, I don't understand why the rumour pops up, D'Lo is doing good on Kerr's system and with Klay playing next year, we will see the true potential of their combination. They should good a role player to help Green instead, not trade one of their stars.

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Quote from: sana54210 on February 03, 2020, 12:23:20 PM

I feel like D'lo would still be superior to Wiggins when it comes to GSW, not for every team, for example I would put Wiggins over D'lo in current rockets if they were up there, but for warriors system the player who has a better shooting is actually more important. They built the whole system in such a way that even Durant became a spot up shooter after a certain while, that means D'lo is more valuable to warriors specially when Klay is gone.

If I understand about basketball even a bit, when Klay comes back he might actually transition to Small Forward a bit more, with Curry at PG and D'lo at SG, he will be perfect for SF when he comes back, plus he will be a bit slower so it will be harder for him to keep defending the guards of the other team as well.

Klay don't have any difficulties playing at either SG and SF. In the Warriors system, actually this position is just a position meaning anyone here can be placed. Durant even playing SF covers the PF to Center position during his stay here.

For the rumors, I doubt Warriors will trade D'Lo for Wiggins but they can offer something. Wiggins+D'Lo will be a good backcourt duo especially when Klay and Steph got back. No need to trade D'Lo as he is now familiar with Kerr's system.

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I feel like D'lo would still be superior to Wiggins when it comes to GSW, not for every team, for example I would put Wiggins over D'lo in current rockets if they were up there, but for warriors system the player who has a better shooting is actually more important. They built the whole system in such a way that even Durant became a spot up shooter after a certain while, that means D'lo is more valuable to warriors specially when Klay is gone.

If I understand about basketball even a bit, when Klay comes back he might actually transition to Small Forward a bit more, with Curry at PG and D'lo at SG, he will be perfect for SF when he comes back, plus he will be a bit slower so it will be harder for him to keep defending the guards of the other team as well.

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Quote from: Viscore on February 02, 2020, 06:51:57 AM

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Quote from: Finestream on February 01, 2020, 10:52:00 PM

Lakers starting strong in the 1st quarter outscoring the Kings, (44-22), THAT 22 points up in the first quarter alone.

Can the Kings come back in this game? Let's find out if they can, but I am confident Lakers would win by blowout to bounce back from a loss in LA.

The Lakers has been almost undefeated from a team under .500 and by far the best record for road games this season. So, if the Lakers will play against a low seeded team, the chance for them to cover the spread that the bookies will open is pretty high. But, when playing against above .500 teams, the chance for them to win or cover the spread is fair. That's what I noticed from the Lakers team so far this season.

That's why they lose against the Blazers, right?
Well, we really can't tell if that would continue to be the trend, that is only based on your observation, for how many games?
It's nice if we can find some stats on that and hopefully some members would share sites than we can check on different betting stats.

Here
https://www.espn.com/nba/standings/_/group/league
The Lakers lead the road game wins this season with 21 and 5.
While, my observation for them covering the spread against above .500 team goes for the season long. But, most of their opponents earlier this season was below .500 teams which they performed very well covering the spread up to 9.5.
Anyway, those are just my observation. Nevertheless, the Lakers are still one of the favorites to win the Championship this year.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 03, 2020, 06:42:23 AM

This season is the best season for Wiggins as his stats had improve. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wiggian01.html
He average 22 points so far compared to Russell's 23.8 points. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/russeda01.html

There's not much big difference but in terms of impact to the team now, Russell got the advantage since he is the main focal point of offense.

DLo have and Wiggins are both offensive players with good system to put them inside the team they can easily adopt and work with the gameplay. They've got comparative stats it's about how the coaching handles them in case the trade will happen.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 03, 2020, 07:22:27 AM

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DLo for Wiggins?
What do you guys think about this?
Is that even an equal trade?

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-timberwolves-dangled-andrew-wiggins-trade-warriors

Both offensive but I'll rather keep DLo than exchange it to Wiggins, This young gun being paired to Splash bro definitely brings a good firepower outside. His not able to lift the team but the story will be changed once The splash are already there to play with him.
Hoping for DLo to stay and be kept by the Warriors.

Looking at the stats I will also go for DLo.
Consistency? Yes, I am still with DLo now.
If we talk about before then I might really pick Andrew Wiggins against him.

GSW though is still in lack of something else.
A strong center maybe or another forward to lessen the workload of Draymond. He is getting punished so much down the rim which could lead to a lot of injuries. Better have some back up there.

Warriors were successful in the past without having a superstar center so they don't need that for sure.
Of course they need someone to help Draymond but that's not lacking, they have to focus on what they really need right now and that is to improve their defense since the Warriors although an extraordinary team in offense but they are also know for their good defense and that's their recipe for success.

We've seen enough for Dlo, he can drop 50 points or more but would that make the team better in overall?

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Quote from: Golftech on February 03, 2020, 02:05:49 AM

Quote from: danherbias07 on February 02, 2020, 09:07:58 PM

DLo for Wiggins?
What do you guys think about this?
Is that even an equal trade?

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-timberwolves-dangled-andrew-wiggins-trade-warriors

Both offensive but I'll rather keep DLo than exchange it to Wiggins, This young gun being paired to Splash bro definitely brings a good firepower outside. His not able to lift the team but the story will be changed once The splash are already there to play with him.
Hoping for DLo to stay and be kept by the Warriors.

Looking at the stats I will also go for DLo.
Consistency? Yes, I am still with DLo now.
If we talk about before then I might really pick Andrew Wiggins against him.

GSW though is still in lack of something else.
A strong center maybe or another forward to lessen the workload of Draymond. He is getting punished so much down the rim which could lead to a lot of injuries. Better have some back up there.

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This season is the best season for Wiggins as his stats had improve. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wiggian01.html
He average 22 points so far compared to Russell's 23.8 points. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/russeda01.html

There's not much big difference but in terms of impact to the team now, Russell got the advantage since he is the main focal point of offense.

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Quote from: Finestream on February 03, 2020, 03:58:57 AM

Quote from: arwin100 on February 03, 2020, 02:47:35 AM

Maybe they consider Wiggins but for sure it will not come since they know DLo is more valuable to keep and the one they really need is a true center which can held on their defensive side.

For me, I would choose Wiggins over DLO due to the fact that Wiggins plays good defense and he is also a legit scorer if given an opportunity.

I'd say I have the same thought after reading this.
When we talking about offense, GSW already have that.
They are just both injured.
But when it comes to defense, all I can think about is Draymond and Klay.
I think we all remember the last time when they fought against the Rockets. They keep on switching Klay over Curry when he is being forced to defend Harden.
He cannot do anything about it.
Now, if there is a chance to get a player with both skills then it will be a win for the GSW side since they really need someone who can play at both end.

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Quote from: arwin100 on February 03, 2020, 02:47:35 AM

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Quote from: spadormie on February 02, 2020, 11:57:56 AM

Dude just look at this pass from LeBron James! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt60TLMUHYM.

Could this be the best assist of his whole career? I like watching it over and over again(RIP replay button). I don't know what he did there if it was a mishandling on a dribble that's why he found a hard time passing the ball or is it just him doing a fancy pass for some fancy points? Man, this was crazy. Although that game he only made 15 but he did have the triple double on the sheet plus a W plus a fancy pass.

You can see the difference with experience with what he did.
It was supposed to be for Davis but he saw that it might get stolen so he changed his mind in mid-air. Grin

That was really something else, one of his greatest highlights that we will be watching for a long time.

DLo for Wiggins?
What do you guys think about this?
Is that even an equal trade?

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-timberwolves-dangled-andrew-wiggins-trade-warriors

Both offensive but I'll rather keep DLo than exchange it to Wiggins, This young gun being paired to Splash bro definitely brings a good firepower outside. His not able to lift the team but the story will be changed once The splash are already there to play with him.
Hoping for DLo to stay and be kept by the Warriors.

When Russel landed on GSW it was a good fit to them since he actually give a extra fire power to the them and they should keep them since he can contribute outside and inside but he need to work with his defense since he's been outpowered by other players in the court. Maybe they consider Wiggins but for sure it will not come since they know DLo is more valuable to keep and the one they really need is a true center which can held on their defensive side.

Agree to that, they need good center to provide interior defense and offense. Once splash bro start to play DLo only needs to find his good spot while Curry's carrying the ball and calling for their play. If they able to get a good center which fits to their system a center who can run, I guess CAT is a good option for them to acquire.

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Quote from: Finestream on February 03, 2020, 03:58:57 AM

For me, I would choose Wiggins over DLO due to the fact that Wiggins plays good defense and he is also a legit scorer if given an opportunity.

He will be a good fit with the Warriors as he can attack in the paint and that will lead an open shots opportunity for the gunners like Curry and Thompson.
IMO, he was effective with the wolves but he needs to take his talent to a team that is a championship contender, so let's see if this could possibly be realize.

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Quote from: arwin100 on February 03, 2020, 02:47:35 AM

When Russel landed on GSW it was a good fit to them since he actually give a extra fire power to the them and they should keep them since he can contribute outside and inside but he need to work with his defense since he's been outpowered by other players in the court.

That's probably their weakness, unlike Durant who can really make some good defense and have a good rebounding skills and blocking skills as well.
When Both Curry and Thompson will again healthy and these 3 will play in the court, its' gonna be Curry and Him who will be attack by their opponent since they do lack some defense.

Quote from: arwin100 on February 03, 2020, 02:47:35 AM

Maybe they consider Wiggins but for sure it will not come since they know DLo is more valuable to keep and the one they really need is a true center which can held on their defensive side.

For me, I would choose Wiggins over DLO due to the fact that Wiggins plays good defense and he is also a legit scorer if given an opportunity.

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Quote from: Golftech on February 03, 2020, 02:05:49 AM

Quote from: danherbias07 on February 02, 2020, 09:07:58 PM

Quote from: spadormie on February 02, 2020, 11:57:56 AM

Dude just look at this pass from LeBron James! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt60TLMUHYM.

Could this be the best assist of his whole career? I like watching it over and over again(RIP replay button). I don't know what he did there if it was a mishandling on a dribble that's why he found a hard time passing the ball or is it just him doing a fancy pass for some fancy points? Man, this was crazy. Although that game he only made 15 but he did have the triple double on the sheet plus a W plus a fancy pass.

You can see the difference with experience with what he did.
It was supposed to be for Davis but he saw that it might get stolen so he changed his mind in mid-air. Grin

That was really something else, one of his greatest highlights that we will be watching for a long time.

DLo for Wiggins?
What do you guys think about this?
Is that even an equal trade?

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-timberwolves-dangled-andrew-wiggins-trade-warriors

Both offensive but I'll rather keep DLo than exchange it to Wiggins, This young gun being paired to Splash bro definitely brings a good firepower outside. His not able to lift the team but the story will be changed once The splash are already there to play with him.
Hoping for DLo to stay and be kept by the Warriors.

When Russel landed on GSW it was a good fit to them since he actually give a extra fire power to the them and they should keep them since he can contribute outside and inside but he need to work with his defense since he's been outpowered by other players in the court. Maybe they consider Wiggins but for sure it will not come since they know DLo is more valuable to keep and the one they really need is a true center which can held on their defensive side.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 02, 2020, 09:07:58 PM

Quote from: spadormie on February 02, 2020, 11:57:56 AM

Dude just look at this pass from LeBron James! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt60TLMUHYM.

Could this be the best assist of his whole career? I like watching it over and over again(RIP replay button). I don't know what he did there if it was a mishandling on a dribble that's why he found a hard time passing the ball or is it just him doing a fancy pass for some fancy points? Man, this was crazy. Although that game he only made 15 but he did have the triple double on the sheet plus a W plus a fancy pass.

You can see the difference with experience with what he did.
It was supposed to be for Davis but he saw that it might get stolen so he changed his mind in mid-air. Grin

That was really something else, one of his greatest highlights that we will be watching for a long time.

DLo for Wiggins?
What do you guys think about this?
Is that even an equal trade?

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-timberwolves-dangled-andrew-wiggins-trade-warriors

Both offensive but I'll rather keep DLo than exchange it to Wiggins, This young gun being paired to Splash bro definitely brings a good firepower outside. His not able to lift the team but the story will be changed once The splash are already there to play with him.
Hoping for DLo to stay and be kept by the Warriors.

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Quote from: spadormie on February 02, 2020, 11:57:56 AM

Dude just look at this pass from LeBron James! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt60TLMUHYM.

Something like the Steve Nash pass. The difference is Lebron faked it at passing into AD.
Who could do that in air? And AD really thought it is going to him. Grin

Nice.

Quote from: spadormie on February 02, 2020, 11:57:56 AM

Could this be the best assist of his whole career? I like watching it over and over again(RIP replay button). I don't know what he did there if it was a mishandling on a dribble that's why he found a hard time passing the ball or is it just him doing a fancy pass for some fancy points? Man, this was crazy. Although that game he only made 15 but he did have the triple double on the sheet plus a W plus a fancy pass.

Still the best one for me is the no look pass here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBM_5WPg014
I was freaking watching it live and I was shocked and faked too. Grin

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Quote from: spadormie on February 02, 2020, 11:57:56 AM

Dude just look at this pass from LeBron James! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt60TLMUHYM.

Could this be the best assist of his whole career? I like watching it over and over again(RIP replay button). I don't know what he did there if it was a mishandling on a dribble that's why he found a hard time passing the ball or is it just him doing a fancy pass for some fancy points? Man, this was crazy. Although that game he only made 15 but he did have the triple double on the sheet plus a W plus a fancy pass.

You can see the difference with experience with what he did.
It was supposed to be for Davis but he saw that it might get stolen so he changed his mind in mid-air. Grin

That was really something else, one of his greatest highlights that we will be watching for a long time.

DLo for Wiggins?
What do you guys think about this?
Is that even an equal trade?

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-timberwolves-dangled-andrew-wiggins-trade-warriors

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Quote from: btc_angela on February 02, 2020, 05:20:44 PM

Good W for the Lakers and they are back.

They are certainly back making big statement on the the road.
Time to back them again, seems like the hearts are healing now and they are playing the normal game which they are dominating.

Meanwhile, games today are too early so I wasn't able to make bets on all the games on board.
As of now, all games are finished, and all Home team won.

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