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November 22, 2019, 02:20:29 PM

As a long-time Mavericks fan here looks like the effort and patience for years are now yielding a good result,"at least for now", after the sudden fall of the championship roster during the post-season of their championship years.

I don't give up on Dallas Mavericks since I become interested to them way back 2003 and never expected they will reach the finals in 2006 and finally able to chip a trophy in 2011. That era is composed of monster teams that's why I never thought seeing Dirk Nowitzki will snatch that Finals MVP. Sad that Steve Nash and Michael Finley wasn't able to share the championship trophy with Dirk.

And after they won a chip in 2011, this team became one of the underperforming teams in the West. But still, if I saw some interesting Moneyline odds to them, I do put some few bucks as support. My friends know how I'm an avid fan of this team so I'm happy with their progress now.

Their last playoffs appearance was way back 2015-16 season. I hope I will see them back at Playoffs this season.



I don't think it's the end of LeBron era. Though is is at the twilight of his skills, he can still show how deadly he can be in the court. Basing on how he played recently, he is still above the level of Luka. Duncic still has a lot to prove that this is his era and yet not now.

You take that user's statement literally lol. Of course, stats-wise LeBron James > Luka Doncic.

Come on. Luka just played 86 games as of now. Smiley
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November 22, 2019, 11:22:38 AM
The management should take a look of this and give him much deeper squad, they are also a champion caliber team with Dirk leading them. Now that it's Luka's term he also needs to have good teammates to establish and achieved this kind of goals. He's still young and if he continues to have a healthy career he can be the next sensation. Though there's also a lots of respected players but his stats can speak for him.
He already has Porzingis, Hardaway, Barea, and Curry. This is already a good team. If they stay healthy, they can make playoffs this year and have a good chance for the Western Conference Finals.

Why do people suddenly are big on Doncic? Dude has always been a great player, hell on his first year he won the rookie of the year and played amazingly, had triple doubles and all that. Now the game is way more different than the 90's and early 2000's because back then the games were slower, there was a whole stretch Pistons 04 allowed teams score less than 80 points a game in a row back to back nights for a long time.
It is just his second year in NBA and not everybody is following EuroLeague. So it is acceptable that most are just noticing how good he is especially his team is now on top 8.

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November 22, 2019, 09:58:23 AM
Why do people suddenly are big on Doncic? Dude has always been a great player, hell on his first year he won the rookie of the year and played amazingly, had triple doubles and all that. Now the game is way more different than the 90's and early 2000's because back then the games were slower, there was a whole stretch Pistons 04 allowed teams score less than 80 points a game in a row back to back nights for a long time.

So of course, when the game is more like "scoring 120 points, getting scored 110 every game" type of situation it is not that weird that superstars have triple doubles. Back in the day superstars focused on scoring because they played 40 minutes a game and couldn't focus on everything, now stars plays 35 minutes at most so they can focus on other stuff too.

Not only because he is close to averaging a triple double now, but also because of his team's standing.
His last season's average is ...21.2 pts, 6.0 assists, 7.8 rebounds... now his average is 29.9 pts, 9.4 assists and 10.6 rebounds, but this is only for 14 games, there's over 60 games that he has to play and he needs to be consistent to maintain that average.

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November 22, 2019, 09:41:12 AM
Why do people suddenly are big on Doncic? Dude has always been a great player, hell on his first year he won the rookie of the year and played amazingly, had triple doubles and all that. Now the game is way more different than the 90's and early 2000's because back then the games were slower, there was a whole stretch Pistons 04 allowed teams score less than 80 points a game in a row back to back nights for a long time.

So of course, when the game is more like "scoring 120 points, getting scored 110 every game" type of situation it is not that weird that superstars have triple doubles. Back in the day superstars focused on scoring because they played 40 minutes a game and couldn't focus on everything, now stars plays 35 minutes at most so they can focus on other stuff too.
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November 22, 2019, 09:27:44 AM
  • His 40 pt triple double against the Spurs I think is the 2nd time that a 20 yr old has made and the first who did it? His Idol LBJ
  • He and KAT are the only players in the past 15 seasons with 20 pts, 5 reb and 5 assist in a single quarter. Source
  • He is the first player to outscore, outrebound and out-assist a team in a quarter since Allen Iverson on Feb. 19, 2003 against the Bulls. Source
I just read that he is also the fifth player in the NBA history to average a 30 point triple double in a span of ten games. The other four were Michael Jordan, Lebron James, Russel Westbrook, and Oscar Robertson. What an accomplishment already in his very young career. Let's hope his team can back him up to win a chip in the next five years.
The management should take a look of this and give him much deeper squad, they are also a champion caliber team with Dirk leading them. Now that it's Luka's term he also needs to have good teammates to establish and achieved this kind of goals. He's still young and if he continues to have a healthy career he can be the next sensation. Though there's also a lots of respected players but his stats can speak for him.
Mavericks have been winning already, I think that would say a lot that they are a good team.

Its not all about Luka only, if you look at his stats, he had a good number of assists per game, and that is because he is making his teammates better.
For me, I would like to see this team for now, and who knows if they will surprise the heavy favorites to win the champion this playoffs, if they will reach at that level.
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November 22, 2019, 09:22:06 AM
  • His 40 pt triple double against the Spurs I think is the 2nd time that a 20 yr old has made and the first who did it? His Idol LBJ
  • He and KAT are the only players in the past 15 seasons with 20 pts, 5 reb and 5 assist in a single quarter. Source
  • He is the first player to outscore, outrebound and out-assist a team in a quarter since Allen Iverson on Feb. 19, 2003 against the Bulls. Source
I just read that he is also the fifth player in the NBA history to average a 30 point triple double in a span of ten games. The other four were Michael Jordan, Lebron James, Russel Westbrook, and Oscar Robertson. What an accomplishment already in his very young career. Let's hope his team can back him up to win a chip in the next five years.
The management should take a look of this and give him much deeper squad, they are also a champion caliber team with Dirk leading them. Now that it's Luka's term he also needs to have good teammates to establish and achieved this kind of goals. He's still young and if he continues to have a healthy career he can be the next sensation. Though there's also a lots of respected players but his stats can speak for him.
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November 22, 2019, 09:00:08 AM
Lots of love on Luka here, stop these guys, Melo will be jelous, lol...

Anyway, Luka is a real star now, he is still very young, 20 years old and he is playing like a matured NBA player who has a lot of experience already.
now we finally see a star in Dallas, he is better than Dirk Nowitzki because he is a triple double machine now.

He indeed has a lot of experience in professional basketball in his hometown. He even played in the FIBA intercontinental cup at the age 16 (which I also remember Ricky Rubio who played in Spain at the same age) and dominated the game. What makes it more surprising is, he also dominated the best basketball league in the world in his 2nd year.
Now, the MVP debate are now exclusively for Doncic and LeBron and nobody comes near them in the discussions right now.

I will vote for Luka at any way possible.  Grin Really love the guy.
Lebron though do deserve to be an MVP too considering what he had been doing for the Lakers now.
He is not the Kawhi type who will rest now for a big game tomorrow. He plays every game with no absences unless there is an injury which mostly are mild ones.
Back to the MVP discussion, Lebron had his share with this trophies, time for the new era to be boosted.
Let the young kids know in NCAA that there is a chance they could also be an MVP at early age.
That way, they will train harder.
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November 22, 2019, 08:19:47 AM
  • His 40 pt triple double against the Spurs I think is the 2nd time that a 20 yr old has made and the first who did it? His Idol LBJ
  • He and KAT are the only players in the past 15 seasons with 20 pts, 5 reb and 5 assist in a single quarter. Source
  • He is the first player to outscore, outrebound and out-assist a team in a quarter since Allen Iverson on Feb. 19, 2003 against the Bulls. Source
I just read that he is also the fifth player in the NBA history to average a 30 point triple double in a span of ten games. The other four were Michael Jordan, Lebron James, Russel Westbrook, and Oscar Robertson. What an accomplishment already in his very young career. Let's hope his team can back him up to win a chip in the next five years.

I remember those times when Russel Westbrook average a triple double and that was the time when he also won his first regular season MVP.
But in terms of accuracy and the effect to the team, Doncic gives more positive effect and with that, he made his team sit in the playoff position which we are hoping that they will stay or improve by the end of the regular season.
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November 22, 2019, 08:04:26 AM
  • His 40 pt triple double against the Spurs I think is the 2nd time that a 20 yr old has made and the first who did it? His Idol LBJ
  • He and KAT are the only players in the past 15 seasons with 20 pts, 5 reb and 5 assist in a single quarter. Source
  • He is the first player to outscore, outrebound and out-assist a team in a quarter since Allen Iverson on Feb. 19, 2003 against the Bulls. Source
I just read that he is also the fifth player in the NBA history to average a 30 point triple double in a span of ten games. The other four were Michael Jordan, Lebron James, Russel Westbrook, and Oscar Robertson. What an accomplishment already in his very young career. Let's hope his team can back him up to win a chip in the next five years.
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November 22, 2019, 07:41:47 AM
Lots of love on Luka here, stop these guys, Melo will be jelous, lol...

Anyway, Luka is a real star now, he is still very young, 20 years old and he is playing like a matured NBA player who has a lot of experience already.
now we finally see a star in Dallas, he is better than Dirk Nowitzki because he is a triple double machine now.

He is the reason why I will always pick Dallas over most of the NBA teams in this season. He is really a solid player with almost triple double scorer in every game.

But I dont agree that he is better than Dirk, yes he is young but Dirk gives Dallas championship matches and even the saviour of Mavericks during clutch time. Dirk is a tall guy and most players on NBA hasn't good at shooting while Dirk specialty is this. Maybe Luca will exceed him, if he continue to be their highest pointer in the season.
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November 22, 2019, 07:22:38 AM
Lots of love on Luka here, stop these guys, Melo will be jelous, lol...

Anyway, Luka is a real star now, he is still very young, 20 years old and he is playing like a matured NBA player who has a lot of experience already.
now we finally see a star in Dallas, he is better than Dirk Nowitzki because he is a triple double machine now.

He indeed has a lot of experience in professional basketball in his hometown. He even played in the FIBA intercontinental cup at the age 16 (which I also remember Ricky Rubio who played in Spain at the same age) and dominated the game. What makes it more surprising is, he also dominated the best basketball league in the world in his 2nd year.
Now, the MVP debate are now exclusively for Doncic and LeBron and nobody comes near them in the discussions right now.
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November 22, 2019, 07:08:18 AM
Lots of love on Luka here, stop these guys, Melo will be jelous, lol...

Anyway, Luka is a real star now, he is still very young, 20 years old and he is playing like a matured NBA player who has a lot of experience already.
now we finally see a star in Dallas, he is better than Dirk Nowitzki because he is a triple double machine now.
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November 22, 2019, 06:55:52 AM
Luka Dončić
Through 14 games, he is putting up 29.9 points, grabbing 10.6 boards and dishing out 9.4 assists per game. On Monday, he served the Spurs a 42-point triple-double and then followed it up with a 35-point triple-double against the Warriors on Wednesday.


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November 22, 2019, 06:24:47 AM
This is a bit of an old news but I'm surprised no one has talked about Pau Gasol being waived by the Blazers. The reason was that he's recovery from surgery seems to be longer than expected. They are currently looking at a possibility of giving him a coaching role instead while recovering in Portland.

It's probably a good call by the team and for Pau to retire. He's already accomplished a lot when he was a Laker.

I agree mate, I think Pau needs to retire at this point. Good if Portland will give him a job managing the team.

Remember when he was a Laker, people said that he really help Kobe preserved his legacy. Pau was the biggest factor in their win against the Boston and proved that he is not soft.
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November 22, 2019, 05:43:13 AM
6th winning streak for the Bucks. Next is Pistons. Can they stop this streak?   Wink Bledsoe was on fire.

People are not noticing the bucks a lot because they know what bucks can do.
They are looking now on exciting teams like the Nuggets, Clippers, Lakers, Rockets, and special mention to the Mavericks, this kind Doncic has a big chance to become MVP. 

because of that, there's  a rumor about https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/sneaker-free-agent-luka-doncic-playing-his-way-into-becoming-next-nba-star-with-signature-shoe-deal/

what do you think about that rumor? that could bring him another $100 million or more contract?
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November 22, 2019, 04:53:07 AM
Jrue is really something else adding 9 assists in his game.
This guy can make triple doubles if he put his game in a higher level. While Ingaram also snatching 8 rebounds and 5 assists.
Congratulations to the Pelicans.

Good balance of offense from the 3 players who scored over 20 points, they are starting to win now, hopefully they'll stick to this until Williamson comes back.

I hope he does.
He is young and his team mates are the same.
Lonzo Ball and Ingram won't have problems with their chemistry. They already have that since the Lakers time.
Now, if Zion could enter quickly then that means he could input something to the two.
A kid with the strength of a forward and the speed of a guard.
There will be a lot of highlights if they could sync together.

6th winning streak for the Bucks. Next is Pistons. Can they stop this streak?   Wink Bledsoe was on fire.
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November 22, 2019, 04:29:20 AM
I don't think it's the end of LeBron era. Though is is at the twilight of his skills, he can still show how deadly he can be in the court. Basing on how he played recently, he is still above the level of Luka. Duncic still has a lot to prove that this is his era and yet not now.

Agree, Luka hasn't won a regular MVP, Finals MVP and a championship, lebron has achieved all of that awards.
He is still playing well, he get triple double from time to time and his team is still in the number 1 spot.

Luka is sensational, he is the hottest NBA player now IMO, but let's see if he can continue to perform like this for years and bring his team to the championship, Lebron did that when he was still young in the cavaliers but he never won a championship until he joined forces with Wade and Bosh.
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November 22, 2019, 03:10:00 AM
It is really weird to see Golden State Warriors being trashed like this, after years of dominance. At least they will have solid chances to get nr1 pick in the next draft. With a bit of luck  and healthy team,   they might be contenders again next year.
With their key players out for some months, I expected this to happen already with the Warriors. I'm a warriors fan as always but this season, I will pick another team who will be champion and I believe that they will make a comeback next season when their key players are back + their draft pick.

Luka Doncic is taking over the NBA one triple-double at a time
I have also watched a video and he has achieved many things in their game against the Warriors and Spurs. Lemme enumerate some:
  • His 40 pt triple double against the Spurs I think is the 2nd time that a 20 yr old has made and the first who did it? His Idol LBJ
  • He and KAT are the only players in the past 15 seasons with 20 pts, 5 reb and 5 assist in a single quarter. Source
  • He is the first player to outscore, outrebound and out-assist a team in a quarter since Allen Iverson on Feb. 19, 2003 against the Bulls. Source
There are some more but you can just visit the twitter page @ESPNStatsInfo

The Lebron Era is over and now its the Luka era right now Cheesy. His name has been in the MVP list already. From ROY to MVP Cheesy.

I don't think it's the end of LeBron era. Though is is at the twilight of his skills, he can still show how deadly he can be in the court. Basing on how he played recently, he is still above the level of Luka. Duncic still has a lot to prove that this is his era and yet not now.
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November 22, 2019, 02:55:41 AM
Jrue Holiday, Brandon Ingram and JJ Redick having a monster game again.
Despite the lack of power forwards for this team, they can still make it winning agianst a strong Phoenix Suns.
Phoenix suns is not strong anymore, they are expose with their losing streak, and in this game, there is no Rubio and Baynes but overall they gave a very exciting game.


Jrue is really something else adding 9 assists in his game.
This guy can make triple doubles if he put his game in a higher level. While Ingaram also snatching 8 rebounds and 5 assists.
Congratulations to the Pelicans.

Good balance of offense from the 3 players who scored over 20 points, they are starting to win now, hopefully they'll stick to this until Williamson comes back.
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November 22, 2019, 02:46:49 AM
Jrue Holiday, Brandon Ingram and JJ Redick having a monster game again.
Despite the lack of power forwards for this team, they can still make it winning agianst a strong Phoenix Suns.
Jrue is really something else adding 9 assists in his game.
This guy can make triple doubles if he put his game in a higher level. While Ingaram also snatching 8 rebounds and 5 assists.
Congratulations to the Pelicans.
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