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Top 100 NBA Players of 2020

Can anyone guess who is #1?

https://www.si.com/nba/top-100-nba-players-2020#10-1
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September 13, 2019, 12:38:29 AM

Best badass if he makes the Clippers team a champion too.
Yes, no one will hate someone who gave tou something great in return even if you leave them behind.

Yes they will be and it is also because of Mike D'Antoni kind of gameplays.
They do have a lot of chance but look at the Western teams roster now. It is fully packed with high caliber players, it will still be a hard fought game even if 2 MVPs are combined.

Kahwi and PG13 is one and a whole bunch of defensive players in Clippers.
Dont forget Denver, Lakers and GSW. They will need somw good strategy to avoid them in the first and second round.

This makes NBA more interesting for this upcoming next season. For all teams with duo’s superstar.

Clippers have Kawhi and Paul George.
Warriors have Curry and Thompson.
Lakers have Lebron and Davis.
Brooklyn have Kyrie and KD (but sadly KD can’t play this year.
Houston have Harden and WB.
Utah Jazz have Mike Conley and Donovan Mitchell (I love Mike Conley he’s 3 points shot Smiley )
76ers have Ben Simmons and Embid (Dominate Offensively)
Portland have Lilard and McColum (both shows significantly well done avg. last season)
Milwaukee have Antetokounmpo and Middleton.
Denver have Jokic and Jamal Murray.

I can’t think who’s the best duo’s for every teams, but that’s my top 10 duo’s for this next season that will bring hot.
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September 12, 2019, 06:00:50 PM
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Okay let us put it at that way.
But I want to blame the media also for putting more coal in the fire of this arrogant and disrespectful fans.

They made stories which dont have anything to back it up and still the fans believe them. They are all just rumors and gossips. The players also believed it specially Westbrook.
It is just that NBA All Star where they made peace. I think KD explained it well during that time and Westbrook understood it suddenly.
They cannot talk well because of the media making up stories just according to what they see and not what is really happening on the locker room.

KD made it happen to be on the Finals and WCF. He should also have some part of that tribute.

Exactly, media putting up so many stories. Honestly, KD and WB are now settled for I think long-time now. Just look at this year's NBA All-Star, all are looking good between them and before that All-Star MVP trophy handed to Durant, they were seen having a moment. OKC fans should know the status between these two more than us here but I don't know why the hell they are still not moving on with that Durant issue.

But I guess that recognition for KD will not happen soon. He is currently again at heated conversation with those OKC fans peeps who don't know how to move on.
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September 12, 2019, 01:43:29 PM
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Some days I hate the circus of the NBA," Durant told the WSJ. "Some days I hate that the players let the NBA business, the fame that comes with the business, alter their minds about the game. Sometimes I don't like being around the executives and politics that come with it. I hate that.
I guess this is something that is not new to all of us. We see great players got traded to different teams and some are traded by knowing in the twitter that they were traded. An example of a player that knew he was traded on twitter is Josh Hart.

That's not it. NBA cares also for the hype. Look at Bertans from SA. He was not included in 3-point shootout because they thought he will not create any impact on that competition even though he's a great 3 pointer.
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September 12, 2019, 10:06:07 AM
Now that is their problem. Not all will be a Dirk Nowitzki like ending.
Durant may have felt that he cannot make anything happen when Westbrook was on his side.
For me, he did the right thing and so is now with Brooklyn.
Kawhi is more badass with three teams in 3 years. Grin

More badass because he gives Toronto their first championship but decided to leave the team after, I think the fans really likes him to stay but they respected him because he made history with the Toronto, I'm pretty sure if he will come back, he would still be offered with a maximum salary.

Talking about WB, he also realize that he can't win without an MVP caliber playing with him, so being with the Rockets now improves his chance to have a ring, and I believe he and James Harden are a good combo, it would be hard to one on one this player so they will be effective.

Best badass if he makes the Clippers team a champion too.
Yes, no one will hate someone who gave tou something great in return even if you leave them behind.

Yes they will be and it is also because of Mike D'Antoni kind of gameplays.
They do have a lot of chance but look at the Western teams roster now. It is fully packed with high caliber players, it will still be a hard fought game even if 2 MVPs are combined.

Kahwi and PG13 is one and a whole bunch of defensive players in Clippers.
Dont forget Denver, Lakers and GSW. They will need somw good strategy to avoid them in the first and second round.
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September 12, 2019, 12:33:06 AM
Now that is their problem. Not all will be a Dirk Nowitzki like ending.
Durant may have felt that he cannot make anything happen when Westbrook was on his side.
For me, he did the right thing and so is now with Brooklyn.
Kawhi is more badass with three teams in 3 years. Grin

More badass because he gives Toronto their first championship but decided to leave the team after, I think the fans really likes him to stay but they respected him because he made history with the Toronto, I'm pretty sure if he will come back, he would still be offered with a maximum salary.

Talking about WB, he also realize that he can't win without an MVP caliber playing with him, so being with the Rockets now improves his chance to have a ring, and I believe he and James Harden are a good combo, it would be hard to one on one this player so they will be effective.
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September 12, 2019, 12:11:02 AM
So I see no hate on Westbrook from the fans and I believed a tribute video will be given to him once he came back playing at OKC's homecourt. But other fans are just arrogant and disrespectful, to the point that their hate on Durant are now on the top level.

Okay let us put it at that way.
But I want to blame the media also for putting more coal in the fire of this arrogant and disrespectful fans.

They made stories which dont have anything to back it up and still the fans believe them. They are all just rumors and gossips. The players also believed it specially Westbrook.
It is just that NBA All Star where they made peace. I think KD explained it well during that time and Westbrook understood it suddenly.
They cannot talk well because of the media making up stories just according to what they see and not what is really happening on the locker room.

KD made it happen to be on the Finals and WCF. He should also have some part of that tribute.
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September 11, 2019, 07:47:37 PM
Oklahoma fans seems to not get over to what he did. Westbrook did.
Now, Westbrook is in Houston. Will they also get mad with him?

OKC is one of the dominant teams in the NBA during the time when Durant was there.

They reached NBA Finals in 2012 for the first time as OKC Thunder (former Seattle) although beaten by Miami Heat and almost beat the top favorite Golden State Warriors in 2015-16 Western Conference Finals although they literally blew their 3-1 lead. It's almost a little more push for the championship and fans hope that next season will be OKC's time to shine but unexpected thing happen as Durant force on a departure and shown not interest anymore playing for the team.

On the other hand, Westbrook got traded, same with Harden, with no intention of leaving the team. And fans already knew that Westbrook can't carry the whole team without a solid backup unlike when Durant was their main man. So I see no hate on Westbrook from the fans and I believed a tribute video will be given to him once he came back playing at OKC's homecourt. But other fans are just arrogant and disrespectful, to the point that their hate on Durant are now on the top level.
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September 11, 2019, 07:24:26 PM
he even himself said he wanted to go to warriors and then come back to Oklahoma if people didn't treated him this badly but OKC fans lost Durant the moment they booed him like an enemy.

Well Durant is weak, he can't feel that way if he likes to come back as its normal for that fans to feel that way.
Lebron the best play of the Cavaliers and he started his career in the team but decided to leave to Miami Heat to achieved a championship, you know what the fans, did? They burn his jersey and that is worst than what the fans did to Durant.

But hey,,, what happen, he came back and the fans accepted him, he gave them a championship, now lebron gain a lot of respect even if he again transferred to another team. This prove that fans reaction are just temporary....



Some video to watch - Cleveland Fans Burning Lebron James Jersey And His Reaction
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September 11, 2019, 04:42:49 PM

Why would Oklahoma fans get angry with Westbrook? He is on free agent so he has the authority to not sign with the team and go sign the other. It's business man, and its in the rules of the NBA and not just the players decide with that rules.

And Durant aint doing business?
It aint personal too. He is just doing his job with a little want to be a champion as a side dish. Also an MVP of course. He went to a right team because Steph really gave him way to make it happen.


You can't blame the fans, when Durant leave OKC, that's the same thing they felt but they also felt it with westbrook as fans really wants their player to stay if they like it. .

Now that is their problem. Not all will be a Dirk Nowitzki like ending.
Durant may have felt that he cannot make anything happen when Westbrook was on his side.
For me, he did the right thing and so is now with Brooklyn.
Kawhi is more badass with three teams in 3 years. Grin
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September 11, 2019, 01:07:56 PM
There is a WHOLE difference between Westbrook leaving and Durant leaving. Durant left during FA and he went to warriors, that was his trouble, even if he left on FA but to a team like Nets then there wouldn't be that much of a trouble but dude literally went to warriors to have couple rings and then continue, he even himself said he wanted to go to warriors and then come back to Oklahoma if people didn't treated him this badly but OKC fans lost Durant the moment they booed him like an enemy.

Westbrook on the other hand has been sent to a better team so that OKC could start their rebuild, they have lost PG, they have lost Durant way before that, they have only westbrook and Adams left so the best case was get rid of westbrook and start to tank this year for some good picks and plan for the future.
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September 11, 2019, 12:28:46 PM
Durant on ESPN.

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Some days I hate the circus of the NBA," Durant told the WSJ. "Some days I hate that the players let the NBA business, the fame that comes with the business, alter their minds about the game. Sometimes I don't like being around the executives and politics that come with it. I hate that.

Looks like he now saw the ugly side of NBA which is the truth.
Also, this aint just NBA fault but the media.
They keep on analyzing players and sometimes they go way under the belt.
They make rumors like they are truth and people believe it.
That is the problem for entertainers like him. He is a star so he became the apple of the eye.

Oklahoma fans seems to not get over to what he did. Westbrook did.
Now, Westbrook is in Houston. Will they also get mad with him?

Why would Oklahoma fans get angry with Westbrook? He is on free agent so he has the authority to not sign with the team and go sign the other. It's business man, and its in the rules of the NBA and not just the players decide with that rules.
Although it's a part of the rules but fans can be triggered by wrong write-ups from Mass media's they can easily harmed the image of the players who's going to leave the franchise, it's how exactly what KD means there's politics who are influencing everything around this league, you need to adjust and follow the trend if you wanted to keep your fame and longing your stay to keep playing around.
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September 11, 2019, 07:29:10 AM
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Why would Oklahoma fans get angry with Westbrook? He is on free agent so he has the authority to not sign with the team and go sign the other. It's business man, and its in the rules of the NBA and not just the players decide with that rules.

You can't blame the fans, when Durant leave OKC, that's the same thing they felt but they also felt it with westbrook as fans really wants their player to stay if they like it. WB is the main man of the OKC for many years, the fans supported him although they are not as good as during the time of Durant and Ibaka, but when he decides to leave, that makes the fans upset. It's understandable that it's all business, but fans does not feel that way, they are more emotional when it comes to idolizing their best player.
I agree mate, that's why they are called fans, because they are fanatics with their players and their team. I'm sure that the fans will get upset, specially that WB didn't bring any championship to the city after a big hype around him.

But fans won't understand this for a bit, so it's going to be interesting to see WB first game in Houston uniform against OKC this season, it's going to be huge.
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September 11, 2019, 06:44:34 AM
Durant on ESPN.

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Some days I hate the circus of the NBA," Durant told the WSJ. "Some days I hate that the players let the NBA business, the fame that comes with the business, alter their minds about the game. Sometimes I don't like being around the executives and politics that come with it. I hate that.

Looks like he now saw the ugly side of NBA which is the truth.
Also, this aint just NBA fault but the media.
They keep on analyzing players and sometimes they go way under the belt.
They make rumors like they are truth and people believe it.
That is the problem for entertainers like him. He is a star so he became the apple of the eye.

Oklahoma fans seems to not get over to what he did. Westbrook did.
Now, Westbrook is in Houston. Will they also get mad with him?

Why would Oklahoma fans get angry with Westbrook? He is on free agent so he has the authority to not sign with the team and go sign the other. It's business man, and its in the rules of the NBA and not just the players decide with that rules.

You can't blame the fans, when Durant leave OKC, that's the same thing they felt but they also felt it with westbrook as fans really wants their player to stay if they like it. WB is the main man of the OKC for many years, the fans supported him although they are not as good as during the time of Durant and Ibaka, but when he decides to leave, that makes the fans upset. It's understandable that it's all business, but fans does not feel that way, they are more emotional when it comes to idolizing their best player.
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September 11, 2019, 06:29:58 AM
Durant on ESPN.

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Some days I hate the circus of the NBA," Durant told the WSJ. "Some days I hate that the players let the NBA business, the fame that comes with the business, alter their minds about the game. Sometimes I don't like being around the executives and politics that come with it. I hate that.

Looks like he now saw the ugly side of NBA which is the truth.
Also, this aint just NBA fault but the media.
They keep on analyzing players and sometimes they go way under the belt.
They make rumors like they are truth and people believe it.
That is the problem for entertainers like him. He is a star so he became the apple of the eye.

Oklahoma fans seems to not get over to what he did. Westbrook did.
Now, Westbrook is in Houston. Will they also get mad with him?

Why would Oklahoma fans get angry with Westbrook? He is on free agent so he has the authority to not sign with the team and go sign the other. It's business man, and its in the rules of the NBA and not just the players decide with that rules.
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September 11, 2019, 05:56:04 AM
Durant on ESPN.

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Some days I hate the circus of the NBA," Durant told the WSJ. "Some days I hate that the players let the NBA business, the fame that comes with the business, alter their minds about the game. Sometimes I don't like being around the executives and politics that come with it. I hate that.

Looks like he now saw the ugly side of NBA which is the truth.
Also, this aint just NBA fault but the media.
They keep on analyzing players and sometimes they go way under the belt.
They make rumors like they are truth and people believe it.
That is the problem for entertainers like him. He is a star so he became the apple of the eye.

Oklahoma fans seems to not get over to what he did. Westbrook did.
Now, Westbrook is in Houston. Will they also get mad with him?

What's the story behind this? Because who wouldn't say anything bad if something happened to him badly. Is it related to his recovery or salary that is why he is now coming in front because of this? Either way it looks like Durant is also affected on what the media is saying maybe to his recovery and how it can affect his prpduction in the court, he isn't that good from people criticizing him ever since he got injured. I got a feeling that its more team related and how it can affect Brooklyn.
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September 11, 2019, 05:21:02 AM
Durant on ESPN.

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Some days I hate the circus of the NBA," Durant told the WSJ. "Some days I hate that the players let the NBA business, the fame that comes with the business, alter their minds about the game. Sometimes I don't like being around the executives and politics that come with it. I hate that.

Looks like he now saw the ugly side of NBA which is the truth.
Also, this aint just NBA fault but the media.
They keep on analyzing players and sometimes they go way under the belt.
They make rumors like they are truth and people believe it.
That is the problem for entertainers like him. He is a star so he became the apple of the eye.

Oklahoma fans seems to not get over to what he did. Westbrook did.
Now, Westbrook is in Houston. Will they also get mad with him?

NBA has control of the media, this is just how the business is run, player can't expect that they can do all they want.
When it comes to business, there are some corruption and players needs to live up based on the expectation of the people, Durant is a star, he cannot live an ordinary life, he needs to satisfy the demand of his job because that is what he is paid for.

Speaking of media, they are main reason of the success of NBA, without them the NBA will not gain global popularity, so let them do their job and as a player be professional, otherwise get out in the NBA as there are a lot of players hoping to be in the position of where you are now.

That's just how it is. It's a cycle and both are benefitting from each other. Players can't be onion-skinned as the whole world is watching them. And great players don't get affected. It's your game that will define you. Look at kobe, ai, bron. They've had their fair share of bad light. But they're professional players and they play with it.  That's how everything works especially in something that's globally recognized such as the nba.
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September 11, 2019, 02:50:30 AM
Durant on ESPN.

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Some days I hate the circus of the NBA," Durant told the WSJ. "Some days I hate that the players let the NBA business, the fame that comes with the business, alter their minds about the game. Sometimes I don't like being around the executives and politics that come with it. I hate that.

Looks like he now saw the ugly side of NBA which is the truth.
Also, this aint just NBA fault but the media.
They keep on analyzing players and sometimes they go way under the belt.
They make rumors like they are truth and people believe it.
That is the problem for entertainers like him. He is a star so he became the apple of the eye.

Oklahoma fans seems to not get over to what he did. Westbrook did.
Now, Westbrook is in Houston. Will they also get mad with him?

NBA has control of the media, this is just how the business is run, player can't expect that they can do all they want.
When it comes to business, there are some corruption and players needs to live up based on the expectation of the people, Durant is a star, he cannot live an ordinary life, he needs to satisfy the demand of his job because that is what he is paid for.

Speaking of media, they are main reason of the success of NBA, without them the NBA will not gain global popularity, so let them do their job and as a player be professional, otherwise get out in the NBA as there are a lot of players hoping to be in the position of where you are now.
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September 11, 2019, 02:31:47 AM
Durant on ESPN.

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Some days I hate the circus of the NBA," Durant told the WSJ. "Some days I hate that the players let the NBA business, the fame that comes with the business, alter their minds about the game. Sometimes I don't like being around the executives and politics that come with it. I hate that.

Looks like he now saw the ugly side of NBA which is the truth.
Also, this aint just NBA fault but the media.
They keep on analyzing players and sometimes they go way under the belt.
They make rumors like they are truth and people believe it.
That is the problem for entertainers like him. He is a star so he became the apple of the eye.

Oklahoma fans seems to not get over to what he did. Westbrook did.
Now, Westbrook is in Houston. Will they also get mad with him?


Oklahoma fans should hate Westbrook, but I'm sure he will not get that attention because it's not Westbrook decision to leave the team so he will be totally off the hook as compare to Durant where fans see him abandoning Oklahoma.

Yeah, that's the ugly truth of NBA today, lots of politics, Just look at how Magic lost his job in the Lakers management and he said that there was a lot of backstabbing and identified  Lakers GM Rob Pelinka as the backstabber. So there's a lot of of politics behind.
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