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November 20, 2019, 05:56:48 PM
You have a point mate but do you really think Melo got no problem at all? I don't think so. Okay let's disregard first the critics from the crowd. Melo did a 4/14 FG, turnovers and 2 offensive fouls (according to the post above). See? He is inefficient at the moment, so I think it is fair to conclude that he served more of a burden rather a relief for their team.

The discussion about Melo's evaluation should be after his tenure in the Blazers. We are talking about the average here.

He is currently adjusting to the phase with a new team, new teammates, a new environment and coming from a long hiatus and drama in the real action on the court.  Just imagine how much pressure he is currently dealing with as everyone is expecting him to show good performance at every game. This is his last opportunity so I believed he is working really hard for that.

Again, let's do the talk after several games. Their next game is against the Milwaukee Bucks. One of the tough teams in the league that needed a serious approach in terms of defense. Let's see how Melo will deal on this.
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November 20, 2019, 05:37:23 PM
The guy didnt even have a preseason it was one game!

The problem is people is just quick to judge because of his problems in his past teams, they were expecting that Melo would show a different game and a different stat but they were disappointed, yeah, it was just one game and not everyone can adjust easily in one game, so let's give him a chance and maybe in 3 games we will see if he can really an asset to the team or just another liability especially in the defensive end.
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November 20, 2019, 04:30:34 PM
Is it really adaption which we are seeing or is it just because he is being surrounded by superstars?
Yeah! He adapt. Look at his present physique and compare it into his prime days, there's a big differenece right? He change his body because he knew that O'Neal kind of Centers (huge but slow) are out — versatile Centers are in today. Those players do not only protects along the paint but also fast, has a good perimeter range and in some cases some of them know how to shoot 3's Smiley. Don't get me wrong, I know that being in an All Star team like Lakers is a significant factor to be considered why Howard seems strong but still the majority of his improvements are due to his hardwork of cours.
We are the problem, not him. But he does not know that. He thinks he is the problem. He should just play the game.
You have a point mate but do you really think Melo got no problem at all? I don't think so. Okay let's disregard first the critics from the crowd. Melo did a 4/14 FG, turnovers and 2 offensive fouls (according to the post above). See? He is inefficient at the moment, so I think it is fair to conclude that he served more of a burden rather a relief for their team.

Off of one game? Lol.  Look at this stat line:

He shot just 2-for-11, 6-of-10 from the free throw line and had four personal fouls and five turnovers. Would you think this person was a detriment to his team and should be benched?  Guess who..Lebron James.  One game doesnt mean anything.  The guy didnt even have a preseason it was one game!
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November 20, 2019, 12:46:10 PM
Is it really adaption which we are seeing or is it just because he is being surrounded by superstars?
Yeah! He adapt. Look at his present physique and compare it into his prime days, there's a big differenece right? He change his body because he knew that O'Neal kind of Centers (huge but slow) are out — versatile Centers are in today. Those players do not only protects along the paint but also fast, has a good perimeter range and in some cases some of them know how to shoot 3's Smiley. Don't get me wrong, I know that being in an All Star team like Lakers is a significant factor to be considered why Howard seems strong but still the majority of his improvements are due to his hardwork of cours.
We are the problem, not him. But he does not know that. He thinks he is the problem. He should just play the game.
You have a point mate but do you really think Melo got no problem at all? I don't think so. Okay let's disregard first the critics from the crowd. Melo did a 4/14 FG, turnovers and 2 offensive fouls (according to the post above). See? He is inefficient at the moment, so I think it is fair to conclude that he served more of a burden rather a relief for their team.
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November 20, 2019, 10:49:36 AM
Maybe next game.
Or still maybe not Grin. How unfortunate tha his first chance was wasted. Well, there are still many chances left for him but I do hope he will not do a poor performance again because even small errors accumulate and become a huge bad impression in the end which lead him into termination (who knows?)

I don't see great development to be honest unlike to other oldies, Dwight Howard for example. Despite of his age and size, he learned to adapt. Props to his effort of making himself from just a "bulky man" to a more effective agile center. If Melo knows how to adapt too or make everything which levels him into youngsters' performance then he will not get bad comments at all.
Let's give the guy a chance to redeem himself. He has not played for almost 2 years in NBA. We cannot expect him to be in his best instantly. He needs to adapt to the gameplay and his teammates. Let's see in a few weeks if he will improve or not.


We all know that Melo's one weakness is his defense. And I don't think at this age, he will play defense at all.
Age is not a reason to not adjust your game. He is given a second chance, I think he needs to give it all. If he needs to learn defense, he must.
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November 20, 2019, 10:45:11 AM
Maybe next game.
Or still maybe not Grin. How unfortunate tha his first chance was wasted. Well, there are still many chances left for him but I do hope he will not do a poor performance again because even small errors accumulate and become a huge bad impression in the end which lead him into termination (who knows?)

I don't see great development to be honest unlike to other oldies, Dwight Howard for example. Despite of his age and size, he learned to adapt. Props to his effort of making himself from just a "bulky man" to a more effective agile center. If Melo knows how to adapt too or make everything which levels him into youngsters' performance then he will not get bad comments at all.

Is it really adaption which we are seeing or is it just because he is being surrounded by superstars?
The two is a bad comparison since the team is different and the roster.
Dwight is in a team in which it is being hyped. Lakers had been the apple of the eye. Not the Blazers.
They added Melo for a chance to change their circulation and maybe add to their chemistry.

Not all debut's are successful, it is just that we are expecting for something better with him and he did not achieve it.
We are the problem, not him. But he does not know that. He thinks he is the problem. He should just play the game.

Everyone is making too much of one game.  Remember he didnt have a preseason to prepare, he just had to jump in mid season.  It takes guys some time of live action before they are in full form.  I would say melo wont be "right" until january.  New teammates, not playing in awhile, etc all takes time.  I can pick out 1 game for anyone and say wow they suck.
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November 20, 2019, 10:06:11 AM
I have been supportive with Melo but this is not really a good debut.
Difficult to put it in words.
Although the guy is trying his best, I am seeing bad reactions from him whenever he fails to shoot the ball.
That is not how a superstar reacts.
You shoot the ball, you miss, go back to D.
Do not waste time telling yourself I hoped it went in and then 1 clap in disappointment while the offense of the team you are against is making their shot.

Maybe next game.

He's disappointed because he can't get into the groove. Let's give the guy another chance to revive himself. Yes, maybe next game.
He needs to have that instinct back, not just to shoot but also to make a good defensive stop, part of adjustment that he needed to cope up right away. He still have enough time to prove he's worth, just another game to forget and move forward and plan another gameplay that might work and give the team a win. Coaches needs to give him some pointers to review after this game to help him to adjust.

We all know that Melo's one weakness is his defense. And I don't think at this age, he will play defense at all. And that's one reason why Houston let him go prior because he can't really play defense. Maybe his instinct or the groove is not yet there, and we might see some improvement next game. But in the defense department? I doubt Melo will improved, just saying.
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November 20, 2019, 09:35:55 AM
I have been supportive with Melo but this is not really a good debut.
Difficult to put it in words.
Although the guy is trying his best, I am seeing bad reactions from him whenever he fails to shoot the ball.
That is not how a superstar reacts.
You shoot the ball, you miss, go back to D.
Do not waste time telling yourself I hoped it went in and then 1 clap in disappointment while the offense of the team you are against is making their shot.

Maybe next game.

He's disappointed because he can't get into the groove. Let's give the guy another chance to revive himself. Yes, maybe next game.
He needs to have that instinct back, not just to shoot but also to make a good defensive stop, part of adjustment that he needed to cope up right away. He still have enough time to prove he's worth, just another game to forget and move forward and plan another gameplay that might work and give the team a win. Coaches needs to give him some pointers to review after this game to help him to adjust.
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November 20, 2019, 09:26:00 AM
Melo didn't start that well not only on offense but on defense neither. He hasn't played a "real" game for the past year so it was expected of him to go 4/14 from the floor, that is not even that bad when you look at it like that.

However, dude didn't even guarded his man one on one let alone really go after boards that hard and wasn't really paying attention to other teams offensive scheme that much.

You know why players like Lebron will never be out of work? Those guys could be 50 years old and if they want to they will still get a contract. Why? Because, if you give them 1 year absence, they will watch and memorize every single play and system on each team and when they come back they will be prepared for anything. Melo probably just shot balls all year while waiting.
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November 20, 2019, 09:24:37 AM
Maybe next game.
Or still maybe not Grin. How unfortunate tha his first chance was wasted. Well, there are still many chances left for him but I do hope he will not do a poor performance again because even small errors accumulate and become a huge bad impression in the end which lead him into termination (who knows?)

I don't see great development to be honest unlike to other oldies, Dwight Howard for example. Despite of his age and size, he learned to adapt. Props to his effort of making himself from just a "bulky man" to a more effective agile center. If Melo knows how to adapt too or make everything which levels him into youngsters' performance then he will not get bad comments at all.

Is it really adaption which we are seeing or is it just because he is being surrounded by superstars?
The two is a bad comparison since the team is different and the roster.
Dwight is in a team in which it is being hyped. Lakers had been the apple of the eye. Not the Blazers.
They added Melo for a chance to change their circulation and maybe add to their chemistry.

Not all debut's are successful, it is just that we are expecting for something better with him and he did not achieve it.
We are the problem, not him. But he does not know that. He thinks he is the problem. He should just play the game.
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November 20, 2019, 09:22:06 AM
I think it's just acceptable to struggle for one whole season as they have been dominating the NBA for many seasons too.

Maybe some would accept but some would already move to another team, I think they are now a fan of the Lakers or the Clippers but for me if I have to choose another team, I would choose a young team with lots of potential, and you know that team? its Dallas because I just found a guy who can make triple double consistently, and he was underrated thinking he is still young but he is not competing in the MVP race.

Pick another team?  I guess frontrunning fans will just watch and cheer for first place teams but what fun is that.  Any true fan sticks with their team good or bad (I'm still a knick fan after 20 years of garbage basketball).  Another who bounces around I wouldn't really call a true fan more a casual observer which is fine too.  And about Luca yeah he is definately one of the future top stars in this league, he is fun to watch.  Very smart basketball player
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November 20, 2019, 08:10:43 AM
I have been supportive with Melo but this is not really a good debut.
Difficult to put it in words.
Although the guy is trying his best, I am seeing bad reactions from him whenever he fails to shoot the ball.
That is not how a superstar reacts.
You shoot the ball, you miss, go back to D.
Do not waste time telling yourself I hoped it went in and then 1 clap in disappointment while the offense of the team you are against is making their shot.

Maybe next game.

He's disappointed because he can't get into the groove. Let's give the guy another chance to revive himself. Yes, maybe next game.
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November 20, 2019, 07:42:51 AM
Maybe next game.
Or still maybe not Grin. How unfortunate tha his first chance was wasted. Well, there are still many chances left for him but I do hope he will not do a poor performance again because even small errors accumulate and become a huge bad impression in the end which lead him into termination (who knows?)

I don't see great development to be honest unlike to other oldies, Dwight Howard for example. Despite of his age and size, he learned to adapt. Props to his effort of making himself from just a "bulky man" to a more effective agile center. If Melo knows how to adapt too or make everything which levels him into youngsters' performance then he will not get bad comments at all.
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November 20, 2019, 05:45:09 AM
I have been supportive with Melo but this is not really a good debut.
Difficult to put it in words.
Although the guy is trying his best, I am seeing bad reactions from him whenever he fails to shoot the ball.
That is not how a superstar reacts.
You shoot the ball, you miss, go back to D.
Do not waste time telling yourself I hoped it went in and then 1 clap in disappointment while the offense of the team you are against is making their shot.

Maybe next game.
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November 20, 2019, 05:33:55 AM
O oh! Not a good start for Melo. Shooting 4/14 in the field , turn overs and 2 offensive fouls and a big L. It seems that he's still lost, he had a couple of bad shooting selections, putting too much body causing less control with shooting the ball.
I hope he really works out for the Blazers. An off night on the debut leaves a bad impression to the fans.
That force shots seems to be the first thing that the fans will see, it's debut might be not as good  as we expected as they also loses the game.
He need to show some good plays and make impressions that he deserve this contract, he's still not secured so better to work things out and
not to disappoint the fans. Still looking forward to see his blends with is teammates.
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November 20, 2019, 05:06:35 AM
O oh! Not a good start for Melo. Shooting 4/14 in the field , turn overs and 2 offensive fouls and a big L. It seems that he's still lost, he had a couple of bad shooting selections, putting too much body causing less control with shooting the ball.
I hope he really works out for the Blazers. An off night on the debut leaves a bad impression to the fans.

Let's give him some time and see how it goes for him, I'm still positive that he can still contribute to the Blazers. I'm sure his fans just love to see him back in game and it might take some time for Melo to adjust to the Blazers style of play. So maybe in his next game we can slowly see him score and progress every game.
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November 20, 2019, 04:46:14 AM
O oh! Not a good start for Melo. Shooting 4/14 in the field , turn overs and 2 offensive fouls and a big L. It seems that he's still lost, he had a couple of bad shooting selections, putting too much body causing less control with shooting the ball.
I hope he really works out for the Blazers. An off night on the debut leaves a bad impression to the fans.

Yeah, but it is not over yet.
There is just too much weight being put in his shoulders and I think he knows it, that is why he plays this kind of a bad game.
The shooting style is there and the right positioning. Even his post ups are really good.
Problem is he easily gets disappointed after the ball wont get in. He should take that out of his system.

He might relax after 3 more games.
Critics should not get into his head. Keep playing and maybe he can show what he is really meant to do.
 
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November 20, 2019, 04:24:25 AM
O oh! Not a good start for Melo. Shooting 4/14 in the field , turn overs and 2 offensive fouls and a big L. It seems that he's still lost, he had a couple of bad shooting selections, putting too much body causing less control with shooting the ball.
I hope he really works out for the Blazers. An off night on the debut leaves a bad impression to the fans.

Of course he can't perform well since it's his first game since the start of the season. Although he's on a bad start, I think he can come back in this loss and maybe become better as the season goes by.

Well, it's good that you are still optimistic, hopefully this will not end up like his journey with the Rockets and the Thunder.
He was shooting pretty well int he 3 point line this game but playing limited minutes might also limit his production but we will see the real value of the team once Lillard is back, being a starter, he should be able to improve his play for a bigger contract, its his chance so definitely he will have to try harder.
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November 20, 2019, 03:48:09 AM
O oh! Not a good start for Melo. Shooting 4/14 in the field , turn overs and 2 offensive fouls and a big L. It seems that he's still lost, he had a couple of bad shooting selections, putting too much body causing less control with shooting the ball.
I hope he really works out for the Blazers. An off night on the debut leaves a bad impression to the fans.

Of course he can't perform well since it's his first game since the start of the season. Although he's on a bad start, I think he can come back in this loss and maybe become better as the season goes by.
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November 20, 2019, 03:33:09 AM
Yes, Alec Burks still plays for Warriors. I think he played well enough to fill the position left by D'Angelo Russell because he was injured.
It was his 11 games but he was only noticed in this game because he exploded.
During the last season, he played with a lot of teams, played with UJAH, Sacramento Kings, and Cleveland Cavaliers, until this season he was sign by the Warriors I guess.

His history is found in here https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/burksal01.html

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