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February 19, 2019, 01:13:22 PM
I guess the new NBA suggests that is the better approach to the game. Not just because that s how teams win but also that is how the NBA rules moved them towards the new way of basketball. They banned the hand on defense and so forth to make it more offensive. Lets look at what we gain from defense, a better entertainment ? Less scores ? A better chance to win a title with a lesser team? What do we have with more offense and three pointers ?

More viewers than any other time in the last 2 decades, less injuries, less hard fouls, less bruises, less boring no point for 3 minute games and more 178-164 where we watch the best of the game score all the time, dunks, three points from downtown, dribble moves we can't imagine 20 years ago. Basically NBA said we can't legally be harlem globetrotters but by god we can try.
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February 19, 2019, 12:41:20 PM

I was thinking maybe they will still count the 3 point shot as two so they will also work inside.

It was the rule during the basketball early days but there are lots of reasons why they added the three point line which is making sense. There are also proposals back then which is making the three point line more farther than usual.

But honestly, I believed the current distance of three point line to rim is just fine. It's just that players today (even big ones) are just too good throwing buckets on the rainbow shot compare before. Back then, there are lots of strong towers that needed to passed before a player can make a successful layup or just a jump shot. So to counter that, players need to work on their three point fg's. We are now lack of centers today that will bring back the glory of fighting the ball below the rim.

Like what I mentioned before, we are now on a different era. Those who witnessed the action before will really noticed the current changes.
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February 19, 2019, 12:18:34 PM
The next big star that it is rising is Antetokounmpo and when the King will retire he will be the best player in the world.
No doubt that Antetokounmpo will be the next king, he is still young and it's expected that he will improved more.
His length and athleticism is going to make him dominant going forward to this career as an NBA player.
This guy can also carry a team, he does not have all star teammates like the warriors so it's pretty clear that he has the talent.

Currently rank as the no. 1 team in the East and I believe he will dominate the East if he will stay.

It is really difficult to think what he can accomplished, I'm sure everyone will agree that the boy is still not yet in his prime but he can do a lot of things that a lot of veterans took years to accomplished. One thing he really needed is a good players, role players that's willing to sacrifice so that they reach the finals this year (hopefully).

Nah. Giannis is any coach's dream player especially if you're looking for someone to build a team around. And yeah the bucks are looking pretty good so far in the season. Though there have been many teams like this in the past that didn't do well in the playoffs simply because they don't have the experience and buckled under pressure. I think it'll probably take a few more years to make the bucks a legitimate title contender even for the eastern conference.
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February 19, 2019, 12:09:04 PM
The next big star that it is rising is Antetokounmpo and when the King will retire he will be the best player in the world.
No doubt that Antetokounmpo will be the next king, he is still young and it's expected that he will improved more.
His length and athleticism is going to make him dominant going forward to this career as an NBA player.
This guy can also carry a team, he does not have all star teammates like the warriors so it's pretty clear that he has the talent.

Currently rank as the no. 1 team in the East and I believe he will dominate the East if he will stay.

It is really difficult to think what he can accomplished, I'm sure everyone will agree that the boy is still not yet in his prime but he can do a lot of things that a lot of veterans took years to accomplished. One thing he really needed is a good players, role players that's willing to sacrifice so that they reach the finals this year (hopefully).
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February 19, 2019, 07:32:16 AM
The next big star that it is rising is Antetokounmpo and when the King will retire he will be the best player in the world.
No doubt that Antetokounmpo will be the next king, he is still young and it's expected that he will improved more.
His length and athleticism is going to make him dominant going forward to this career as an NBA player.
This guy can also carry a team, he does not have all star teammates like the warriors so it's pretty clear that he has the talent.

Currently rank as the no. 1 team in the East and I believe he will dominate the East if he will stay.
This boy will surely make his noise in the future. There's more to come for this aspiring king but I don't think he'll be labeled as king. There must be a better call or title for him.

I don't watch him before but few years ago when there are buzz that caught my attention. I started to like him and without any doubt he has the strength and the likes of becoming a superstar. He's young and look, he has chosen and became a captain recently though it's an exhibition match.
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February 19, 2019, 06:52:27 AM
WTF is 178 to 164? I understand its a fun night and all but coming from "wade broke kobe's nose on all-star" and "Lebron tried to block kobe but mamba dunked anyway" into the age where the game ends 178 to 164 just simply SUCKS. I grew up watching Indiana and pistons basketball, spurs shutting everyone down, games ending under 100 points all the time, pistons keeping their opponents under 80 points 7+ times in a row.

Now, don't get me wrong I love the game to death and I don't want to change the whole game we play but at least all-star weekend could be a bit better. For the first time in almost a decade I did not stayed up to watch the game and honestly I am not regretting it at all.

The "three point" contest had 7 people in it and they all shot 25 shots in total, that comes down to 150 shots total, the all-star game itself had 169 three points tried, think of a game that has more three points shot than the three point contest itself, I love three pointers but that is tooooo much.

Yep I agree, watching that game is like watching a 3 point contest. A few years ago, it was all dunks and no defense, now it's all long range shots (or very long range) and still no defense.
Disappointing.

Lets just accept the fact that the game of NBA basketball has changed so much that they care less in the defensive end and focus more on the offensive power. If we all notice, every game, and every team, win or lose, they all end up in a triple digit score. It's rare to see a team who didn't reach atleast a hundred points. That clearly explains that the players doesnt play hard on defense.
IMO, its nice to see a high percentage offense, but its always the best if we see a game with an air tight defense.
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February 19, 2019, 06:18:57 AM
The next big star that it is rising is Antetokounmpo and when the King will retire he will be the best player in the world.
No doubt that Antetokounmpo will be the next king, he is still young and it's expected that he will improved more.
His length and athleticism is going to make him dominant going forward to this career as an NBA player.
This guy can also carry a team, he does not have all star teammates like the warriors so it's pretty clear that he has the talent.

Currently rank as the no. 1 team in the East and I believe he will dominate the East if he will stay.
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February 19, 2019, 04:45:28 AM
No heart feelings but both teams performed very well. Lebron has always been the same and being serious although this is just an exhibition match. Now we have to move on and proceed to official league again.

lol the so called captain got 1/8 3pts! KD should be the captain then, not Leape! Yannis is true captain. And KD is the best player in the world!

Don't you dare compare the King with KD, man! Durant is a good player that LeBron is the players that over all these years have proven that he is the best.
It is very out of the point to judge him from an all star game where the players don't give the maximum of their performance.
Haha I think he's a fanboy and never understands on how is it to become a captain. It's not all about the scores that you can make within the game but it's on how you play as a team.

Maybe he just googles and sees who scores most without noticing who made the game! Durant is good but his performance and achievements couldn't be compared with LeBron's. There is still a long way for him to show off... But after he moved to GSW he will be always a shadow... The next big star that it is rising is Antetokounmpo and when the King will retire he will be the best player in the world.
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February 19, 2019, 04:11:17 AM
WTF is 178 to 164? I understand its a fun night and all but coming from "wade broke kobe's nose on all-star" and "Lebron tried to block kobe but mamba dunked anyway" into the age where the game ends 178 to 164 just simply SUCKS. I grew up watching Indiana and pistons basketball, spurs shutting everyone down, games ending under 100 points all the time, pistons keeping their opponents under 80 points 7+ times in a row.

Now, don't get me wrong I love the game to death and I don't want to change the whole game we play but at least all-star weekend could be a bit better. For the first time in almost a decade I did not stayed up to watch the game and honestly I am not regretting it at all.

The "three point" contest had 7 people in it and they all shot 25 shots in total, that comes down to 150 shots total, the all-star game itself had 169 three points tried, think of a game that has more three points shot than the three point contest itself, I love three pointers but that is tooooo much.

Yep I agree, watching that game is like watching a 3 point contest. A few years ago, it was all dunks and no defense, now it's all long range shots (or very long range) and still no defense.
Disappointing.
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February 19, 2019, 02:32:37 AM
WTF is 178 to 164? I understand its a fun night and all but coming from "wade broke kobe's nose on all-star" and "Lebron tried to block kobe but mamba dunked anyway" into the age where the game ends 178 to 164 just simply SUCKS. I grew up watching Indiana and pistons basketball, spurs shutting everyone down, games ending under 100 points all the time, pistons keeping their opponents under 80 points 7+ times in a row.

Oh man, I understand your frustrations, well I grew up watching Detriot's Bad Boy days in the 80's. But you have to understand that the game is evolving as well. Have you noticed that there are no more "true centers" in the league? All 7 footer's love to shoot 3's as well just like a guard.  Grin

Now, don't get me wrong I love the game to death and I don't want to change the whole game we play but at least all-star weekend could be a bit better. For the first time in almost a decade I did not stayed up to watch the game and honestly I am not regretting it at all.

The "three point" contest had 7 people in it and they all shot 25 shots in total, that comes down to 150 shots total, the all-star game itself had 169 three points tried, think of a game that has more three points shot than the three point contest itself, I love three pointers but that is tooooo much.

Again, as I have said, players evolved, games evolved of course even All Star need to adapt's as well. Slam dunks, 3 point's and even the game itself.  Grin
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February 18, 2019, 09:33:50 PM
The "three point" contest had 7 people in it and they all shot 25 shots in total, that comes down to 150 shots total, the all-star game itself had 169 three points tried, think of a game that has more three points shot than the three point contest itself, I love three pointers but that is tooooo much.

Just a few nerdy remarks if I may :

The three point contest had 10 participants, not 7 with total combined shots in both rounds at 325.

167 3pt were attempted out of 275 total shots, that's 61%. Rockets are currently avg 51% 3s (on their total shot attempts), so maybe think of it as if you are watching Houston.  Grin

Oh, and one last thing "wade broke kobe's nose on all-star". If my memory serves me correct, that was an accident. Wade was trying to grab Kobe shoulders on a layup attempt and gently caught his nose. Not as if they were playing any defense for 3+ quarters. lol



That was a good information you shared, I can say you are a real NBA Fan.
Players now are shooting well in 3 point, the inside dominance which we used to love during the early days are gone.
What we are looking into now are the players who are good in 3 point shooting, Curry, Thompson, and Harden.

I was thinking maybe they will still count the 3 point shot as two so they will also work inside.
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February 18, 2019, 09:16:30 PM
The "three point" contest had 7 people in it and they all shot 25 shots in total, that comes down to 150 shots total, the all-star game itself had 169 three points tried, think of a game that has more three points shot than the three point contest itself, I love three pointers but that is tooooo much.

Just a few nerdy remarks if I may :

The three point contest had 10 participants, not 7 with total combined shots in both rounds at 325.

167 3pt were attempted out of 275 total shots, that's 61%. Rockets are currently avg 51% 3s (on their total shot attempts), so maybe think of it as if you are watching Houston.  Grin

Oh, and one last thing "wade broke kobe's nose on all-star". If my memory serves me correct, that was an accident. Wade was trying to grab Kobe shoulders on a layup attempt and gently caught his nose. Not as if they were playing any defense for 3+ quarters. lol

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February 18, 2019, 05:44:25 PM
lol the so called captain got 1/8 3pts! KD should be the captain then, not Leape! Yannis is true captain. And KD is the best player in the world!

Number of votes is the basis for a player to become a team captain. Eastern and Western conference top votes.

Lebron James got the most votes in the West while Giannis got the most in the East.

... number of absence, how much ML of water they had drink, how much is their salary, how high they can jump, average speed of running from court to court, how much the numbers of their haters etc.


LOL

Am I right for what I say above? Wink
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February 18, 2019, 05:37:50 PM

lol the so called captain got 1/8 3pts! KD should be the captain then, not Leape! Yannis is true captain. And KD is the best player in the world!

Don't you dare compare the King with KD, man! Durant is a good player that LeBron is the players that over all these years have proven that he is the best.
It is very out of the point to judge him from an all star game where the players don't give the maximum of their performance.
Haha I think he's a fanboy and never understands on how is it to become a captain. It's not all about the scores that you can make within the game but it's on how you play as a team.

Believe me man, I have noticed that guy before, and now he's back at it again lol. He'll show up when LeBron is having an off night or if the Lakers lost. I dont know if he's a troll or just a plain LeBron hater with mental disorder lol,.
His statement is just pure hating, no basis, no general analysis, no nothing. His comment is even considered as sh*t post.

Ps. Correction its not Yannis, its Giannis. Now, Its safe to say that this guy only come to this thread to hate on LeBron. He's not even an NBA fan.
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February 18, 2019, 03:18:02 PM
No heart feelings but both teams performed very well. Lebron has always been the same and being serious although this is just an exhibition match. Now we have to move on and proceed to official league again.

lol the so called captain got 1/8 3pts! KD should be the captain then, not Leape! Yannis is true captain. And KD is the best player in the world!

Don't you dare compare the King with KD, man! Durant is a good player that LeBron is the players that over all these years have proven that he is the best.
It is very out of the point to judge him from an all star game where the players don't give the maximum of their performance.
Haha I think he's a fanboy and never understands on how is it to become a captain. It's not all about the scores that you can make within the game but it's on how you play as a team.
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February 18, 2019, 01:45:40 PM
lol the so called captain got 1/8 3pts! KD should be the captain then, not Leape! Yannis is true captain. And KD is the best player in the world!

An "All-Star Team Captain" is chosen not based on performance, stats, records, numbers of rings, number of MVPs ,number of All-Star appearance, number of fouls, numbers of rebounds, numbers of steals, number of absence, how much ML of water they had drink, how much is their salary, how high they can jump, average speed of running from court to court, how much the numbers of their haters etc.

Did you do your homework prior posting here? Give yourself a break. Even on an All-Star Game with the purpose of entertaining people still you are taking it seriously. Smiley



The "three point" contest had 7 people in it and they all shot 25 shots in total, that comes down to 150 shots total, the all-star game itself had 169 three points tried, think of a game that has more three points shot than the three point contest itself, I love three pointers but that is tooooo much.

We can't do anything about that. They have hot hands.

We are in an era where battling just below the rim is not that present anymore. So for us who started to become an NBA enthusiast a long time ago, we can really sees the difference.
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February 18, 2019, 01:21:33 PM
Once again the All-star game didn't excite me. The most entertaining is 3-points/ dunk and skills contests. The game is just a commercial trick to make some millions. Zero defense and you can't see any actual game and adventure between the best players in the world. The fact that made me excited was that I saw Stephen Curry's dunk. The best and the only highlight of the game.

I partially agree, but even though they aren't (players) giving that much of their real game, the essence of the all-star is not only to give the fans the entertainment but also for the players to at least a kind of day-off even for a day or so. Though, I might say (for me) the best highlight of the game is when Dirk closed the 1st quarter sinking a deep 3.
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February 18, 2019, 12:38:35 PM
lol the so called captain got 1/8 3pts! KD should be the captain then, not Leape! Yannis is true captain. And KD is the best player in the world!

Don't you dare compare the King with KD, man! Durant is a good player that LeBron is the players that over all these years have proven that he is the best.
It is very out of the point to judge him from an all star game where the players don't give the maximum of their performance.
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February 18, 2019, 12:21:25 PM
WTF is 178 to 164? I understand its a fun night and all but coming from "wade broke kobe's nose on all-star" and "Lebron tried to block kobe but mamba dunked anyway" into the age where the game ends 178 to 164 just simply SUCKS. I grew up watching Indiana and pistons basketball, spurs shutting everyone down, games ending under 100 points all the time, pistons keeping their opponents under 80 points 7+ times in a row.

Now, don't get me wrong I love the game to death and I don't want to change the whole game we play but at least all-star weekend could be a bit better. For the first time in almost a decade I did not stayed up to watch the game and honestly I am not regretting it at all.

The "three point" contest had 7 people in it and they all shot 25 shots in total, that comes down to 150 shots total, the all-star game itself had 169 three points tried, think of a game that has more three points shot than the three point contest itself, I love three pointers but that is tooooo much.

Well you can't really compare all star games to a regular nba game. It's given that players don't play defense and just want to have fun and making highlight after highlight. It's always been like that and most allstar games are high scoring. You wouldn't want your all stars injuring themselves during an exhibition game by playing rough right?
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February 18, 2019, 11:50:37 AM
WTF is 178 to 164? I understand its a fun night and all but coming from "wade broke kobe's nose on all-star" and "Lebron tried to block kobe but mamba dunked anyway" into the age where the game ends 178 to 164 just simply SUCKS. I grew up watching Indiana and pistons basketball, spurs shutting everyone down, games ending under 100 points all the time, pistons keeping their opponents under 80 points 7+ times in a row.

Now, don't get me wrong I love the game to death and I don't want to change the whole game we play but at least all-star weekend could be a bit better. For the first time in almost a decade I did not stayed up to watch the game and honestly I am not regretting it at all.

The "three point" contest had 7 people in it and they all shot 25 shots in total, that comes down to 150 shots total, the all-star game itself had 169 three points tried, think of a game that has more three points shot than the three point contest itself, I love three pointers but that is tooooo much.
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