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One thing to consider though is that Howard is not McGee in terms of movement and willingness to take rolls. I bet Javale doesn't mind whatever type of play he's asked to do or how many minutes he gets.

McGee is good but he is not as dominant as howard in the inside position, when Howard was still playing with the Magic, I think that was the highlights of his career, this guy can fly and eager to play physical inside, but many the injuries he suffered has made him lost his confidence, but if he will be playing with Lebron, the best player in the earth, I think he will be more motivated.

I don't know about that. He always wanted to be the main man that's why his time at Lakers (with Kobe) and Rockets were not really productive. Is he willing to let go of his ego this time and let others command him?

He may be more dominant over McGee in terms of rebounding, but that doesn't mean he can contribute more in other aspects of the game.

I don't think there will be a problem if he will just stay professional and play with what the coaching staff design him to play.
He can be a superstar, but he needs to earn that again with his new team in case he will be able to play with the Lakers, I hope he will not end up like Melo.

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Quote from: Questat on August 20, 2019, 01:58:51 AM

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One thing to consider though is that Howard is not McGee in terms of movement and willingness to take rolls. I bet Javale doesn't mind whatever type of play he's asked to do or how many minutes he gets.

McGee is good but he is not as dominant as howard in the inside position, when Howard was still playing with the Magic, I think that was the highlights of his career, this guy can fly and eager to play physical inside, but many the injuries he suffered has made him lost his confidence, but if he will be playing with Lebron, the best player in the earth, I think he will be more motivated.

I don't know about that. He always wanted to be the main man that's why his time at Lakers (with Kobe) and Rockets were not really productive. Is he willing to let go of his ego this time and let others command him?

He may be more dominant over McGee in terms of rebounding, but that doesn't mean he can contribute more in other aspects of the game.

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The last thing the lakers need is someone clogging the lanes. Stats aside they only tell one story, I wouldn't take d Howard, it will only hurt the team.

Good point, but Lakers did gave Javale McGee one of his best seasons in the centre position and even he didn't hurt the Lakers because they have plays design for him to score by just throwing the ball to him in the middle for a alley-oop. So I guess there will be plays similar for Howard in Lakers to help them score. Besides, Lakers is not a outside scoring team, cutting the middle and fast breaks will fit Howard more.

One thing to consider though is that Howard is not McGee in terms of movement and willingness to take rolls. I bet Javale doesn't mind whatever type of play he's asked to do or how many minutes he gets.

McGee is good but he is not as dominant as howard in the inside position, when Howard was still playing with the Magic, I think that was the highlights of his career, this guy can fly and eager to play physical inside, but many the injuries he suffered has made him lost his confidence, but if he will be playing with Lebron, the best player in the earth, I think he will be more motivated.

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The last thing the lakers need is someone clogging the lanes. Stats aside they only tell one story, I wouldn't take d Howard, it will only hurt the team.

Good point, but Lakers did gave Javale McGee one of his best seasons in the centre position and even he didn't hurt the Lakers because they have plays design for him to score by just throwing the ball to him in the middle for a alley-oop. So I guess there will be plays similar for Howard in Lakers to help them score. Besides, Lakers is not a outside scoring team, cutting the middle and fast breaks will fit Howard more.

One thing to consider though is that Howard is not McGee in terms of movement and willingness to take rolls. I bet Javale doesn't mind whatever type of play he's asked to do or how many minutes he gets.

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Quote from: harizen on August 19, 2019, 05:16:58 PM

Got the point. But in case you missed it, DeMarcus Cousins is already out of the season, not an official but we can conclude it now.

Howard is the only decent veteran center which Lakers can acquire thru a bargain***. Targeting a much decent center might need an extra cost. No problem to them but they aren't looking for any position so not a priority at all. They are almost done finalizing the lineup. It's just that unfortunate things happen to Cousins recently.

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Yes, and they have AD. Doesnt matter what position he can do. He can be forward or a center. Important thing is if he could get the rebound.

Maybe a big man will help more. A forward role or a small forward. It will still depend on the plays and also what team is their opponent.
Let us say they are playing against Houston. The play there is more on speed and they will have to reconsider getting a lot of big men or else they will be left on the other side of the court for every fastbreak that will happen.

Looks like Jeremy Lin will be staying on China.
It wont be a problem.
Gilbert Arenas is playing there making 66 million USD. Grin

Kid just needs to get more experience and bloom there. He is just 30 and he could do more with his speed. Let us see if he will be back in NBA.

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Dwight on ths hand, he is still agile. It wont be a problem for the Lakers since AD is there. It will just low minutes for this centers. I bet they will go small when AD is on the floor.

In fairness to Dwight, looking at his stats, his average on the last season he played (2017-2018) as a big man is good (16.6 points, 12.5 rebounds, 1.6 blocks and 1.3 assists) and still can consider as a decent stats for a post-prime player at a center position.

However, that was before his injury last year + hamstring issue just last March this year. He just played 9 games last season (November 2018).

I just hope that the time he spent on recovery will yield a good result.

And besides, even Cousins didn't suffer an injury recently, his position has limited time so don't expect Howard to be in full court for more minutes. In other words, they are just backup centers as Lakers are used to play now without a big man. We all know that there's no much post-up play when LeBron is on the floor.

The last thing the lakers need is someone clogging the lanes. Stats aside they only tell one story, I wouldn't take d Howard, it will only hurt the team. At least cousins can play outside the lanes which that might have worked.

Good point, but Lakers did gave Javale McGee one of his best seasons in the centre position and even he didn't hurt the Lakers because they have plays design for him to score by just throwing the ball to him in the middle for a alley-oop. So I guess there will be plays similar for Howard in Lakers to help them score. Besides, Lakers is not a outside scoring team, cutting the middle and fast breaks will fit Howard more.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on August 19, 2019, 04:46:24 PM

Quote from: harizen on August 19, 2019, 03:46:27 PM

Quote from: Reid on August 19, 2019, 08:13:50 AM

Dwight on ths hand, he is still agile. It wont be a problem for the Lakers since AD is there. It will just low minutes for this centers. I bet they will go small when AD is on the floor.

In fairness to Dwight, looking at his stats, his average on the last season he played (2017-2018) as a big man is good (16.6 points, 12.5 rebounds, 1.6 blocks and 1.3 assists) and still can consider as a decent stats for a post-prime player at a center position.

However, that was before his injury last year + hamstring issue just last March this year. He just played 9 games last season (November 2018).

I just hope that the time he spent on recovery will yield a good result.

And besides, even Cousins didn't suffer an injury recently, his position has limited time so don't expect Howard to be in full court for more minutes. In other words, they are just backup centers as Lakers are used to play now without a big man. We all know that there's no much post-up play when LeBron is on the floor.

The last thing the lakers need is someone clogging the lanes. Stats aside they only tell one story, I wouldn't take d Howard, it will only hurt the team. At least cousins can play outside the lanes which that might have worked.

Got the point. But in case you missed it, DeMarcus Cousins is already out of the season, not an official but we can conclude it now.

Howard is the only decent veteran center which Lakers can acquire thru a bargain***. Targeting a much decent center might need an extra cost. No problem to them but they aren't looking for any position so not a priority at all. They are almost done finalizing the lineup. It's just that unfortunate things happen to Cousins recently.

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Quote from: harizen on August 19, 2019, 03:46:27 PM

Quote from: Reid on August 19, 2019, 08:13:50 AM

Dwight on ths hand, he is still agile. It wont be a problem for the Lakers since AD is there. It will just low minutes for this centers. I bet they will go small when AD is on the floor.

In fairness to Dwight, looking at his stats, his average on the last season he played (2017-2018) as a big man is good (16.6 points, 12.5 rebounds, 1.6 blocks and 1.3 assists) and still can consider as a decent stats for a post-prime player at a center position.

However, that was before his injury last year + hamstring issue just last March this year. He just played 9 games last season (November 2018).

I just hope that the time he spent on recovery will yield a good result.

And besides, even Cousins didn't suffer an injury recently, his position has limited time so don't expect Howard to be in full court for more minutes. In other words, they are just backup centers as Lakers are used to play now without a big man. We all know that there's no much post-up play when LeBron is on the floor.

The last thing the lakers need is someone clogging the lanes. Stats aside they only tell one story, I wouldn't take d Howard, it will only hurt the team. At least cousins can play outside the lanes which that might have worked.

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Quote from: Reid on August 19, 2019, 08:13:50 AM

Dwight on ths hand, he is still agile. It wont be a problem for the Lakers since AD is there. It will just low minutes for this centers. I bet they will go small when AD is on the floor.

In fairness to Dwight, looking at his stats, his average on the last season he played (2017-2018) as a big man is good (16.6 points, 12.5 rebounds, 1.6 blocks and 1.3 assists) and still can consider as a decent stats for a post-prime player at a center position.

However, that was before his injury last year + hamstring issue just last March this year. He just played 9 games last season (November 2018).

I just hope that the time he spent on recovery will yield a good result.

And besides, even Cousins didn't suffer an injury recently, his position has limited time so don't expect Howard to be in full court for more minutes. In other words, they are just backup centers as Lakers are used to play now without a big man. We all know that there's no much post-up play when LeBron is on the floor.

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Quote from: stadus on August 19, 2019, 06:48:30 AM

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It will be an awkward moment when Cousins come back, but if Dwight will give Lakers the needed boost in that position then management will have to pick Dwight then.

In Center position, I would go for Howard although he does not score much and he is not a good free throw shooter.
They need him because he can defend, and if he is still the same Howard I know, he will be a beast in rebounding and blocks in the inside, in short, he will be useful to the Lakers, yes, the Lakers needs him, hopefully this will come into reality.

It would be a hybrid roster if Dwight is with Lakers but it's good to experiment and see on how this change will keep the team.

I like Dwight but let's see on how he will blend with his teammates.

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Quote from: morvillz7z on August 19, 2019, 09:13:35 AM

If I'm the Lakers I'd steer away from signing Howard. There are still some big guys out there without a contract who can match his production on the floor (which isn't that great by the way) but would have a better locker-room presence, something Lakers would need come playoff time.

As for Boogie, I don't see him coming back this season at all, this a third major injury in a very short timespan, not to mention all three of them are on the same leg (left), achilles, torn quad and now acl. This is fucking depressing...

This somehow says that the Lakers are serious in gaining a championship with an aging LeBron James. They are like saying that it is NOW or NEVER. That's probably the tagline they want to embark. Personally, I guess that this 'rumor' trade could be good for the Lakers. Another case of torn ACL could not help them this season. Boogie is a really great player, hands down. Yet, we cannot say that he can come back this season. Dwight is not the best option they could have since of his diminished talent but I guess this is the best offer they can get.

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Jeremy Lin could totally have a Stephen Marbury type of situation in china if he keeps playing there until he is 36-38, he is still young compared to other old players who went to play in china and he can still star in that league for at least another 5 years and definitely 10 years if he takes care of his body.

Remember though he is a second generation Chinese American so he is not fully Chinese and I think his Chinese wasn't even good (he told it himself but maybe he was being humble) so he would really have to adapt a lot there, if he can overcome that and actually play great then he can make a ton of money there as well and then invest smartly and comeback to USA to live rest of his life when his playing days are over, we are talking about 15-20 million dollars easily, that is enough money for a life time even in USA if you do not live a wealthy life style.

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Quote from: stadus on August 19, 2019, 06:48:30 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on August 19, 2019, 06:42:07 AM

It will be an awkward moment when Cousins come back, but if Dwight will give Lakers the needed boost in that position then management will have to pick Dwight then.

In Center position, I would go for Howard although he does not score much and he is not a good free throw shooter.
They need him because he can defend, and if he is still the same Howard I know, he will be a beast in rebounding and blocks in the inside, in short, he will be useful to the Lakers, yes, the Lakers needs him, hopefully this will come into reality.

Howard can be a good backup since McGee still playing and Davis also can take center position, looking back when he's still the superman with his flexible capabilities and having a good presence inside, he can be a good addition after losing the service of Cousins, Howard is a veteran and deserves to play if Lakers will sign him up he can contribute and help fill in the presence of their interior defense.

The line up of Lakers is more competitive now compared to last season, they can bring new hype and if chemistry works with them surely it will be a dominating team to watch out coming this season.

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Quote from: morvillz7z on August 19, 2019, 09:13:35 AM

If I'm the Lakers I'd steer away from signing Howard. There are still some big guys out there without a contract who can match his production on the floor (which isn't that great by the way) but would have a better locker-room presence, something Lakers would need come playoff time.

As for Boogie, I don't see him coming back this season at all, this a third major injury in a very short timespan, not to mention all three of them are on the same leg (left), achilles, torn quad and now acl. This is fucking depressing...

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If I'm the Lakers I'd steer away from signing Howard. There are still some big guys out there without a contract who can match his production on the floor (which isn't that great by the way) but would have a better locker-room presence, something Lakers would need come playoff time.

As for Boogie, I don't see him coming back this season at all, this a third major injury in a very short timespan, not to mention all three of them are on the same leg (left), achilles, torn quad and now acl. This is fucking depressing...

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Quote from: stadus on August 19, 2019, 06:48:30 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on August 19, 2019, 06:42:07 AM

It will be an awkward moment when Cousins come back, but if Dwight will give Lakers the needed boost in that position then management will have to pick Dwight then.

In Center position, I would go for Howard although he does not score much and he is not a good free throw shooter.
They need him because he can defend, and if he is still the same Howard I know, he will be a beast in rebounding and blocks in the inside, in short, he will be useful to the Lakers, yes, the Lakers needs him, hopefully this will come into reality.

Of course he doesnt play the same anymore. Age is already hitting his body.
It will not be wise if Cousins comes back in mid season and force it again to play.
I would rather sit it until a full recovery happens.
His value is getting lower and lower. He might want to come back healthy then maybe finish the season with at least 80 percent it. Somethingn like 50 to 70 games playing 10 to 15 minutes.
That wont bw bad if he can showcase his skills again.
Dwight on ths hand, he is still agile. It wont be a problem for the Lakers since AD is there. It will just low minutes for this centers. I bet they will go small when AD is on the floor.

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Quote from: btc_angela on August 19, 2019, 06:42:07 AM

It will be an awkward moment when Cousins come back, but if Dwight will give Lakers the needed boost in that position then management will have to pick Dwight then.

In Center position, I would go for Howard although he does not score much and he is not a good free throw shooter.
They need him because he can defend, and if he is still the same Howard I know, he will be a beast in rebounding and blocks in the inside, in short, he will be useful to the Lakers, yes, the Lakers needs him, hopefully this will come into reality.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on August 19, 2019, 05:58:27 AM

Quote from: rosezionjohn on August 18, 2019, 12:03:10 PM

Update on some NBA players.

Jeremy Lin:

He could be on his way to China and play with the Beijing Ducks.

Since there is no team that wants to sign him in the NBA, this is a wise decision for him. He can still play the game he says he love and still get paid. I hope he gets it.

Dwight Howard:
There's a chance that he'll be playing again for the Lakers since Cousins is already out due to injury.

Howard is going to be a great addition to the Lakers.
They need a Center like him and if they sign him they will be a competitive team for the title next season.
However, I wonder what would be the case when Cousins come back from the injury.

Definitely he will be a good addition, that is if he really matured enough. He doesn't need to score points here, what he can do is man the middle for the team and get rebounds. He is already on the downside of his career and hope that he can grab this opportunity and win with Lebron James. It will be an awkward moment when Cousins come back, but if Dwight will give Lakers the needed boost in that position then management will have to pick Dwight then.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on August 19, 2019, 05:58:27 AM

Quote from: rosezionjohn on August 18, 2019, 12:03:10 PM

Update on some NBA players.

Jeremy Lin:

He could be on his way to China and play with the Beijing Ducks.

Since there is no team that wants to sign him in the NBA, this is a wise decision for him. He can still play the game he says he love and still get paid. I hope he gets it.

Dwight Howard:
There's a chance that he'll be playing again for the Lakers since Cousins is already out due to injury.

Howard is going to be a great addition to the Lakers.
They need a Center like him and if they sign him they will be a competitive team for the title next season.
However, I wonder what would be the case when Cousins come back from the injury.

Actually both cousins and Howard are now prone to injury, the last time I saw Howard playing was with the Wizards but he only played limited games due to injury and that was one of the reasons why Wizards miss the playoffs last season.

Now, if he will go with the Lakers, he could be a great addition but he should be healthy to be able to do that.
The last time he played with the Lakers, he does not have a great stats, IIRC, he was playing with Nash that time as well, of course with their captain Kobe.

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