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January 30, 2024, 01:18:54 AM
[....]But for Klay? Okay, there is nothing he can do with it as it's always been Steph that they're eyeing for.
It's not that there's nothing he could do to change their mind. That would not have been the case if Klay was still playing like his usual self. Steph have done it so why can't he? I don't blame the management for wanting to trade him and let Steph be the last remaining of their Golden era.


Klay and Steph are on the different situation, although they were called splash brothers and great shooters as proven, Klay went on a surgery due to serious injury that cost him to miss at least 1 season. That was from their championship game against the Raptors where they lose due to injury. Business is business, I mean, that's how the team look to its player, and since Klay's production, they might just let him go or will offer a lower contract, it's all up to Klay now if he would accept it and try elsewhere that he could get a decent contract and play to a team that is a playoffs contender.
It is a shame that the injury required surgery and a prolonged recovery took the best out of him. Klay is recently not like his superb condition before after the long absence. Warriors is interested in keeping him, just like it is interested in keeping Green, but the offers were different when he was playing at his best. Klay turned down a $48 million offer for two years of his services last year. As I would like to think, there are no teams that can offer higher than that because Klay is as of late at a downfall and he is not getting young any longer. Anyhow, Warriors may be able to provide better figures as they did when Green demanded a $100 million contract.
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January 29, 2024, 11:40:17 PM
[....]But for Klay? Okay, there is nothing he can do with it as it's always been Steph that they're eyeing for.
It's not that there's nothing he could do to change their mind. That would not have been the case if Klay was still playing like his usual self. Steph have done it so why can't he? I don't blame the management for wanting to trade him and let Steph be the last remaining of their Golden era.


Klay and Steph are on the different situation, although they were called splash brothers and great shooters as proven, Klay went on a surgery due to serious injury that cost him to miss at least 1 season. That was from their championship game against the Raptors where they lose due to injury. Business is business, I mean, that's how the team look to its player, and since Klay's production, they might just let him go or will offer a lower contract, it's all up to Klay now if he would accept it and try elsewhere that he could get a decent contract and play to a team that is a playoffs contender.
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January 29, 2024, 10:18:06 PM
[....]But for Klay? Okay, there is nothing he can do with it as it's always been Steph that they're eyeing for.
It's not that there's nothing he could do to change their mind. That would not have been the case if Klay was still playing like his usual self. Steph have done it so why can't he? I don't blame the management for wanting to trade him and let Steph be the last remaining of their Golden era.

I guess the Golden State Warriors are not really serious in letting go of Klay. There might be some testing of the waters as to the trade value of their veteran player, but I don't think they will easily just let another team have Klay. Klay and Steph are more or less the central figures of the team. And if we take a look at the most recent games of Thompson, they are not bad. He's still playing well, usually contributing above 20 points for the team. Paul, Wiggins, and Green could leave anytime though.

No way, maybe if they'll consider the offenses of Draymond Green in the past that might happen, but if they will not and will just look at the factor on how he is playing, they'll see that Draymond is a gem in the team, without him, where are their offense and defense coming?

Maybe CP3 ( injured most of the time), and Wiggins ( inconsistent) can leave, but the big 3 will remain.

I'm sure they could get a good players when these two will be traded as they are paid well, there's still enough time so it's still possible to develop the current warriors and improve their weakness.
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January 29, 2024, 10:02:38 PM
[....]But for Klay? Okay, there is nothing he can do with it as it's always been Steph that they're eyeing for.
It's not that there's nothing he could do to change their mind. That would not have been the case if Klay was still playing like his usual self. Steph have done it so why can't he? I don't blame the management for wanting to trade him and let Steph be the last remaining of their Golden era.

I guess the Golden State Warriors are not really serious in letting go of Klay. There might be some testing of the waters as to the trade value of their veteran player, but I don't think they will easily just let another team have Klay. Klay and Steph are more or less the central figures of the team. And if we take a look at the most recent games of Thompson, they are not bad. He's still playing well, usually contributing above 20 points for the team. Paul, Wiggins, and Green could leave anytime though.
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January 29, 2024, 08:27:21 PM
[....]But for Klay? Okay, there is nothing he can do with it as it's always been Steph that they're eyeing for.
It's not that there's nothing he could do to change their mind. That would not have been the case if Klay was still playing like his usual self. Steph have done it so why can't he? I don't blame the management for wanting to trade him and let Steph be the last remaining of their Golden era.
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January 29, 2024, 07:59:34 PM
It is coming, the Golden State Warriors are looking for trades or any offers for Wiggins, CP3 and even Klay.

The first two are fine since Wiggins are really looking for a transfer and CP3 didn't stayed there for long. But for Klay? Okay, there is nothing he can do with it as it's always been Steph that they're eyeing for.

But we've seen some comments when Steph said if he's gonna be transferred, he'd like to do it with the Hornets.

I can't imagine anyone wanting out for Charlotte.  They are continually a terrible franchise and can't seem to figure out.  Not that I'm for guys front running but why would you want the other side of your career be with a team that can't stay out of the lottery.  That's gotta be a lie.
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January 29, 2024, 07:31:36 PM
It is coming, the Golden State Warriors are looking for trades or any offers for Wiggins, CP3 and even Klay.

The first two are fine since Wiggins are really looking for a transfer and CP3 didn't stayed there for long. But for Klay? Okay, there is nothing he can do with it as it's always been Steph that they're eyeing for.

But we've seen some comments when Steph said if he's gonna be transferred, he'd like to do it with the Hornets.

Anyone could be traded, only Steph is safe with the Warriors. Wiggins name have been popping up in the last couple of months, Klay was reported didn't sign for the extension when he was offered so he might want to test the trade. Even Draymond is also being considered to be traded as well.

And we are nearing the trade deadline this February, so I wouldn't be surprised if any of those name are not going to be a Warrior mid February. If it involved their big 3 then the Golden State Warriors era are over and they will have to rebuilt around Curry next season, but it's going to be very tough.

The Warriors will have a tough time trading Klay because of his steep drop off while Draymond is pretty much worthless on the trade market because of his contract. CP3 is too old to get anything back as well. Wiggins and Kuminga are their only hopes of getting better, and I don’t think trading either of them would help.
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January 29, 2024, 06:00:32 PM
It is coming, the Golden State Warriors are looking for trades or any offers for Wiggins, CP3 and even Klay.

The first two are fine since Wiggins are really looking for a transfer and CP3 didn't stayed there for long. But for Klay? Okay, there is nothing he can do with it as it's always been Steph that they're eyeing for.

But we've seen some comments when Steph said if he's gonna be transferred, he'd like to do it with the Hornets.

Anyone could be traded, only Steph is safe with the Warriors. Wiggins name have been popping up in the last couple of months, Klay was reported didn't sign for the extension when he was offered so he might want to test the trade. Even Draymond is also being considered to be traded as well.

And we are nearing the trade deadline this February, so I wouldn't be surprised if any of those name are not going to be a Warrior mid February. If it involved their big 3 then the Golden State Warriors era are over and they will have to rebuilt around Curry next season, but it's going to be very tough.
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January 29, 2024, 03:17:32 PM
It is coming, the Golden State Warriors are looking for trades or any offers for Wiggins, CP3 and even Klay.

The first two are fine since Wiggins are really looking for a transfer and CP3 didn't stayed there for long. But for Klay? Okay, there is nothing he can do with it as it's always been Steph that they're eyeing for.

But we've seen some comments when Steph said if he's gonna be transferred, he'd like to do it with the Hornets.
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January 29, 2024, 01:21:08 PM
No televised games for me to watch today but there is an interesting matchup I wish I could watch. Dillon Brooks and LeBron are always fun to watch match up against each other. I think the Lakers will get them tonight, but I’ll have to wait to watch the highlight reel.
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January 29, 2024, 11:16:50 AM
I would choose the new Bucks here. Nuggets maybe a strong team at home but they aren't undefeated, and based on the last game of the Bucks, I am confident that it will not be an easy game for the home team as Giannis is sure to be unstoppable, even Jokic could not stop him. Lillard has to have an impressive game here, not sure if Middleton will play because last time he was just sitting on the bench, but even without him, I think Bucks are still capable fo winning.

If we are not confident them winning straight up, taking the handicap is the best bet for us. That's +4.5

Well the problem for the Bucks ain't the offense, it's the defense. That's why the coach had to go as we know. Sure Giannis and Dame can score at will but at d some players should step up as well!
Also they are just 11:9 in away games compared to 18:4 at home for the Nuggets.

In the last 2 away games the Bucks had serious problems to put away the league worst Pistons in Detroit, that doesn't make me confident they have a good shot to beat the Nuggets in Denver. In these 2 games the Bucks have been down by small points in the 4th quarter before closing it out on some runs. You would expect from a team of this caliber to put them away MUCH earlier.

It might get a close game because of the strong scoring output of Dame and Giannis but in the end I think it won't be enough.


Let's see if Doc Rivers will be able to help to solve their weakness as he will have his debut in his coaching job in this game.

Doc Rivers Expected to Make Debut as Bucks Coach on Monday vs. Nuggets, per Report

For me this is worth betting. Although you maybe right that the Nuggets are good at home but they are not invincible. I still could not forget how this team got destroyed by the Knicks few days a go, they experience their biggest loss in the season losing on the road by 38 points.

We have different opinion here as these two teams are great, they are a championship team. However, Bucks getting + points, I would definitely take it.

^ Because the team actually got destroyed by the Knicks so badly, they were very motivated against the Philadelphia 76ers. That is why they are not going to take it easy in this match against the Bucks as well. They are going to try their best to win this game. The Bucks just won a game pretty convincingly. So they will be very confident as well.

I don't know if both the teams are capable of winning this game in my opinion. For me, it is hard to choose a favorite in this game. But if you ask me, I agreed with Kelvinid, the Bucks will have some adjustments with the new coach. Smiley
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January 29, 2024, 11:01:41 AM
Lebron is always in another league, is a non sense compare him with this new kids in town, when they only do a bunch of points and nothing more Lebron was mading a ton of points and carry a whole team in his back until the finals.

And now being much older he keeps wipping floors.
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January 29, 2024, 10:04:58 AM
I know Joel Embiid had 70, and I know Doncic had 73, both of which are amazing achievements and that is definitely the greatest games in the recent times, not like they are that common neither, Doncic broke a record, he is tied 4th for most points.

However, even with all that in mind, I have to say I think Lebrons 36-20-12 statline at the age of 39 is just insane, that dude is nearing 40 and he has rebounded 20 times, which is already the most insane thing I can think of when a player rebounded that much, but also at the same time we are seeing him score 36 and have 12 dimes along that as well. Maybe I am just being a fan boy, and I like Lebron a lot, but that doesn't mean that we are going to discredit his amazing win, that was a wonderful game.

LeBron is great for sure and is one of the greatest athletes of all time. I’d put him up there with Bo Jackson as far as how dominant he is physically. I won’t say he played as impressive a game as Luka’s recent achievement, but you’re right that I don’t think there’s another human on the planet at age 39 who can do what LeBron can.
Lebron is a great example on how to be a discipline player, at his age, he can still play a lot of minutes and contribute. Though he wasn't as explosive as he was before when he was younger, but his impact to the team is still very big. I have no doubt that Lebron will get to play more seasons and will break hall of famers records as he goes on.

As of this season, the chance of the Lakers is quite slim but I would never count them out yet as they could play the play-in tournament and still get in the WCF finals just like last season. Once they are their, the real battle will be seen, it could be Lakers vs Clippers, or Lakers vs Nuggets (rematch), we don't know yet but it's possible.

So rare to see that and to many people got impressed on his capability to handle his self very well since despite of his age he's still a dominant player. At current condition we can still say that Lebron can still play for more years and although he's not that explosive but still he can show impressive performance and lead his team. Although they quietly have a bad run this regular season but if they got proper coach to lead their team then maybe they can get what they really want for this season. Also expect that he can break more records since he's still capable to produce high score or let's just say all things that he can contribute for his team.

There chance is quiet slim but if they can find good solution towards their struggle just like what Clippers did maybe they can see something helpful and  then can able to figure out how to use their roster properly and I guess their coach doesn't know how to adjust base on situation which is their main problem that's why they struggle to win.
Sorry but I cannot stop talking about Lebron. As it is pointed out 2 post before, what Luka and Embiid did is amazing but what Lebron is doing is freakin crazy. I know and saw a lot of normal people after the age 30 or 35 getting physically terrible, just even for daily life. Lebron is being one of the best athletes in the world at the age of 40 and probably gonna keep going more. That deserves the highest of compliments. And even I used to don't like Lebron at all. During his first 10 years I had despised him a lot, especially because of his travelling moves. But what he is doing with this level of intensity and dedication deserves the utmost admiration. Although, Lakers's chances are slim for any big success, his impact on the league is remarkable.
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January 29, 2024, 09:45:26 AM
Good matchup is Nuggets vs the Bucks. It's going to be Giannis vs Jokic, Nuggets will have the home court advantage.

I would choose the new Bucks here. Nuggets maybe a strong team at home but they aren't undefeated, and based on the last game of the Bucks, I am confident that it will not be an easy game for the home team as Giannis is sure to be unstoppable, even Jokic could not stop him. Lillard has to have an impressive game here, not sure if Middleton will play because last time he was just sitting on the bench, but even without him, I think Bucks are still capable fo winning.

If we are not confident them winning straight up, taking the handicap is the best bet for us. That's +4.5

Well the problem for the Bucks ain't the offense, it's the defense. That's why the coach had to go as we know. Sure Giannis and Dame can score at will but at d some players should step up as well!
Also they are just 11:9 in away games compared to 18:4 at home for the Nuggets.

In the last 2 away games the Bucks had serious problems to put away the league worst Pistons in Detroit, that doesn't make me confident they have a good shot to beat the Nuggets in Denver. In these 2 games the Bucks have been down by small points in the 4th quarter before closing it out on some runs. You would expect from a team of this caliber to put them away MUCH earlier.

It might get a close game because of the strong scoring output of Dame and Giannis but in the end I think it won't be enough.


Let's see if Doc Rivers will be able to help to solve their weakness as he will have his debut in his coaching job in this game.

Doc Rivers Expected to Make Debut as Bucks Coach on Monday vs. Nuggets, per Report

For me this is worth betting. Although you maybe right that the Nuggets are good at home but they are not invincible. I still could not forget how this team got destroyed by the Knicks few days a go, they experience their biggest loss in the season losing on the road by 38 points.

We have different opinion here as these two teams are great, they are a championship team. However, Bucks getting + points, I would definitely take it.
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January 29, 2024, 09:06:05 AM
Good matchup is Nuggets vs the Bucks. It's going to be Giannis vs Jokic, Nuggets will have the home court advantage.

I would choose the new Bucks here. Nuggets maybe a strong team at home but they aren't undefeated, and based on the last game of the Bucks, I am confident that it will not be an easy game for the home team as Giannis is sure to be unstoppable, even Jokic could not stop him. Lillard has to have an impressive game here, not sure if Middleton will play because last time he was just sitting on the bench, but even without him, I think Bucks are still capable fo winning.

If we are not confident them winning straight up, taking the handicap is the best bet for us. That's +4.5

Well the problem for the Bucks ain't the offense, it's the defense. That's why the coach had to go as we know. Sure Giannis and Dame can score at will but at d some players should step up as well!
Also they are just 11:9 in away games compared to 18:4 at home for the Nuggets.

In the last 2 away games the Bucks had serious problems to put away the league worst Pistons in Detroit, that doesn't make me confident they have a good shot to beat the Nuggets in Denver. In these 2 games the Bucks have been down by small points in the 4th quarter before closing it out on some runs. You would expect from a team of this caliber to put them away MUCH earlier.

It might get a close game because of the strong scoring output of Dame and Giannis but in the end I think it won't be enough.
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January 29, 2024, 08:50:06 AM
Good matchup is Nuggets vs the Bucks. It's going to be Giannis vs Jokic, Nuggets will have the home court advantage.

I would choose the new Bucks here. Nuggets maybe a strong team at home but they aren't undefeated, and based on the last game of the Bucks, I am confident that it will not be an easy game for the home team as Giannis is sure to be unstoppable, even Jokic could not stop him. Lillard has to have an impressive game here, not sure if Middleton will play because last time he was just sitting on the bench, but even without him, I think Bucks are still capable fo winning.

If we are not confident them winning straight up, taking the handicap is the best bet for us. That's +4.5
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January 29, 2024, 08:37:02 AM
I think this must be more frustrating for Stephen Curry because he is trying really hard to carry his team through almost every match. He actually carried his team in this match as well. But the problem is that his opponent team played really well. At least the Lakers played as a team and that's where the warriors actually lost the match. Well actually in this match his team did support him a lot but the support had to be better and the support that was given by his team was not enough in the end.  Must have been heartbreaking for Stephen Curry, But it is what it is.

By the way, the Lakers made a very good comeback in the 4th quarter otherwise this would have not been possible for the lakers to actually win.
It is frustrating for him and it's written in his face after the game.
The good part is, he got some good help now. Jonathan Kuminga is working his ass and it's showing for like 10 games already where he had double digits in his scores. That kid only needs more experience and I bet he will become one of the faces of the Warriors as long as they won't trade him someday.
Draymond seems to be getting his rhythm too. Now it's all about Wiggins and Klay if they can step their game one more notch to make them a solid team again.

Speaking of solid. The Detroit Pistons played a solid game tonight beating the OKC Thunder.
Fuck NBA. Fuck OKC.1st leg curse. Another day, another upset. First the Spurs destroyed the no.1 seed in the West Timberwolves yesterday and now the Pistons win against the Thunder with a score of 120-104. How many times have the Pistons won this season without Cade Cunningham compared to they win this season? This makes me feel that Cade Cunningham is the problem for the Pistons. The team is great without him. Yesterday he played against Wizards and they lose.
Yeah, everything for the Detroit Pistons is going in at that game. Duren and Ivey are such good players. Maybe they need a guard that is more experienced to get more wins. Monte Morris played well although it was a short span. It's not like the OKC is undermanned, their starters were there but the defense of the Pistons is just better and their offense was also clicking.

I love the Pacers game also. Fast-paced even without Haliburton yet and Siakam was phenomenal. Mathurin was also helping in their offense. And most of all, their defense was great. Grizzlies had been upsetting a lot of teams without Morant, Warriors, Miami Heat, Raptors, and Magic, but not today.
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Fuck NBA. Fuck OKC.1st leg curse. Another day, another upset. First the Spurs destroyed the no.1 seed in the West Timberwolves yesterday and now the Pistons win against the Thunder with a score of 120-104. How many times have the Pistons won this season without Cade Cunningham compared to they win this season? This makes me feel that Cade Cunningham is the problem for the Pistons. The team is great without him. Yesterday he played against Wizards and they lose.

I know what you feel mate, I think every most gamblers have lost their bet on those games, maybe others see the upset and won big, but for the majority of gamblers, this should not happen. And then having them in a parlay, and then seeing that L, I know it's going to hurt very bad. Lots of games tomorrow night, we might have to look for those upsets though as it might happen again.

Good matchup is Nuggets vs the Bucks. It's going to be Giannis vs Jokic, Nuggets will have the home court advantage.
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January 29, 2024, 07:34:22 AM
^^^

There chance is quiet slim but if they can find good solution towards their struggle just like what Clippers did maybe they can see something helpful and  then can able to figure out how to use their roster properly and I guess their coach doesn't know how to adjust base on situation which is their main problem that's why they struggle to win.

I think the Clippers and the Lakers are on a different situation. You can see that the Clippers have 4 superstars (Leonard, PG, Harden, and Westbrook). These star players have now found a good chemistry when playing together, unlike when Westbrook was with the Lakers, it was only all criticism to him that's why he got traded to the other team.

With the Lakers, they only have Lebron and AD, both dominant big man, but the other players are just mediocre players, they are good with their defense but the Lakers doesn't have a lot of outside shooters that's why their 3 poing percentge as a team is very low.
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January 29, 2024, 04:15:51 AM
I know Joel Embiid had 70, and I know Doncic had 73, both of which are amazing achievements and that is definitely the greatest games in the recent times, not like they are that common neither, Doncic broke a record, he is tied 4th for most points.

However, even with all that in mind, I have to say I think Lebrons 36-20-12 statline at the age of 39 is just insane, that dude is nearing 40 and he has rebounded 20 times, which is already the most insane thing I can think of when a player rebounded that much, but also at the same time we are seeing him score 36 and have 12 dimes along that as well. Maybe I am just being a fan boy, and I like Lebron a lot, but that doesn't mean that we are going to discredit his amazing win, that was a wonderful game.

LeBron is great for sure and is one of the greatest athletes of all time. I’d put him up there with Bo Jackson as far as how dominant he is physically. I won’t say he played as impressive a game as Luka’s recent achievement, but you’re right that I don’t think there’s another human on the planet at age 39 who can do what LeBron can.
Lebron is a great example on how to be a discipline player, at his age, he can still play a lot of minutes and contribute. Though he wasn't as explosive as he was before when he was younger, but his impact to the team is still very big. I have no doubt that Lebron will get to play more seasons and will break hall of famers records as he goes on.

As of this season, the chance of the Lakers is quite slim but I would never count them out yet as they could play the play-in tournament and still get in the WCF finals just like last season. Once they are their, the real battle will be seen, it could be Lakers vs Clippers, or Lakers vs Nuggets (rematch), we don't know yet but it's possible.

So rare to see that and to many people got impressed on his capability to handle his self very well since despite of his age he's still a dominant player. At current condition we can still say that Lebron can still play for more years and although he's not that explosive but still he can show impressive performance and lead his team. Although they quietly have a bad run this regular season but if they got proper coach to lead their team then maybe they can get what they really want for this season. Also expect that he can break more records since he's still capable to produce high score or let's just say all things that he can contribute for his team.

There chance is quiet slim but if they can find good solution towards their struggle just like what Clippers did maybe they can see something helpful and  then can able to figure out how to use their roster properly and I guess their coach doesn't know how to adjust base on situation which is their main problem that's why they struggle to win.
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