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September 04, 2018, 01:18:48 PM
The Dirk and David West show are over now. Lets move to another topic. I see this news days ago that Bosh is eyeing to return into the NBA but he set a date. What are your opinions regarding the possible return of Bosh into the NBA?

http://www.nba.com/article/2018/08/31/chris-bosh-nba-comeback-sets-deadline-february-2019

A blood clot in the leg is not a good kind of injury and this could get go back if he makes a wrong move.
He is better resting and being an analyst on the sidelines of NBA.

A great power forward who could somehow give some tips unto how to be great since he made a lot of championships.
He will still need to go through physical exams though if this is what he is aiming for. But there will be doubts for teams and this could be a risk for them. A 1 year contract might not be bad just to test it.
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September 04, 2018, 01:07:24 PM
David West could have played in some other team tho. I mean the reason why he retired is not just that he can't play with his body anymore or anything it was multiple reasons.

First of all David west is a great investor and he made more money with his investments than his career salary earnings, he is making really good money even after retirement and nba salary won't make a huge difference (of course its big but he won't be broke like some other) so he doesn't need to play for economical reasons, he also wanted to win a ring and went to spurs first and now at warriors he won couple rings as well. Well all he has left is his mid range game and he can go somewhere like spurs and get some minutes and play decent playoff run however he already has a lot of money and couple rings, what could he get from that.
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September 04, 2018, 05:34:53 AM
The Dirk and David West show are over now. Lets move to another topic. I see this news days ago that Bosh is eyeing to return into the NBA but he set a date. What are your opinions regarding the possible return of Bosh into the NBA?

http://www.nba.com/article/2018/08/31/chris-bosh-nba-comeback-sets-deadline-february-2019
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September 04, 2018, 03:24:55 AM
Another veteran retirement.

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/david-west-retires-nba-news-pacers-warriors-spurs-pelicans-hornets-xavier/h7rilycrr0tm1s33l1iow511q]David West retires after 15 NBA seasons

One of the good backup player of the Golden State Warriors. These guy have an overall 4 teams he played on his whole career and got 2 rings in his final 2 season with the Golden State Warriors (2016–2018). Unlike other players who earned their rings without effort*, we all know that West contributes much in Warriors so I will say that he really deserved those rings.

With the retirement of West, I think only 6 or 7 players remained now to that famous 2003-04 draft that is actively playing until now. If Im not mistaken.
West has become an all star player when he is on the Pacers. I remember the time when the Pacers team composed of West, PG, Hill, Hibbert etc. They are a good team and can compete against the Heat where James, Wade and Bosh are there.

I think West has fulfilled what he has to fulfill. Contribute to the team and have championship but I didnt expect that he will retire now since he can contribute his vetetan experience in Warriors.

Yeah but you will noticed that he is a bit tad slow with the rest of the GSW and the rest of the NBA. Perhaps its really up for him to retire and maybe getting another last year with the final straw to finished his long career. He got want he wanted as a GSW so its time for him to hang his jersey.
Yeah I agree with you. He can't cope up with how the Warriors are playing. I think @Ipwitch is right that he just joined Warriors for a taste of championship before his retirement because he didn't get it when he is on the Hornets and Pacers. Its really time for him to retire yeah. Cheesy

The retirement depends on the decision of the person, we just state our opinion but they will decide in the end.
West is not at his prime anymore because he is getting older but he really feels like playing with the warriors gives him fulfillment, with small salary
and few playing time, it's fair I guess.

Of course, as NBA fans we have our own opinions, I guess majority of us seen this coming. And he has nothing to proved, he already have a ring, his not in his prime and he doesn't want to be seriously hurt, so its better to quit right now and enjoy his hard earn money. Who knows he might be back in the NBA not in uniform but involved from behind.
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September 04, 2018, 12:34:22 AM
Another veteran retirement.

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/david-west-retires-nba-news-pacers-warriors-spurs-pelicans-hornets-xavier/h7rilycrr0tm1s33l1iow511q]David West retires after 15 NBA seasons

One of the good backup player of the Golden State Warriors. These guy have an overall 4 teams he played on his whole career and got 2 rings in his final 2 season with the Golden State Warriors (2016–2018). Unlike other players who earned their rings without effort*, we all know that West contributes much in Warriors so I will say that he really deserved those rings.

With the retirement of West, I think only 6 or 7 players remained now to that famous 2003-04 draft that is actively playing until now. If Im not mistaken.
West has become an all star player when he is on the Pacers. I remember the time when the Pacers team composed of West, PG, Hill, Hibbert etc. They are a good team and can compete against the Heat where James, Wade and Bosh are there.

I think West has fulfilled what he has to fulfill. Contribute to the team and have championship but I didnt expect that he will retire now since he can contribute his vetetan experience in Warriors.

Yeah but you will noticed that he is a bit tad slow with the rest of the GSW and the rest of the NBA. Perhaps its really up for him to retire and maybe getting another last year with the final straw to finished his long career. He got want he wanted as a GSW so its time for him to hang his jersey.
Yeah I agree with you. He can't cope up with how the Warriors are playing. I think @Ipwitch is right that he just joined Warriors for a taste of championship before his retirement because he didn't get it when he is on the Hornets and Pacers. Its really time for him to retire yeah. Cheesy

The retirement depends on the decision of the person, we just state our opinion but they will decide in the end.
West is not at his prime anymore because he is getting older but he really feels like playing with the warriors gives him fulfillment, with small salary
and few playing time, it's fair I guess.
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September 03, 2018, 11:05:31 PM
Another veteran retirement.

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/david-west-retires-nba-news-pacers-warriors-spurs-pelicans-hornets-xavier/h7rilycrr0tm1s33l1iow511q]David West retires after 15 NBA seasons

One of the good backup player of the Golden State Warriors. These guy have an overall 4 teams he played on his whole career and got 2 rings in his final 2 season with the Golden State Warriors (2016–2018). Unlike other players who earned their rings without effort*, we all know that West contributes much in Warriors so I will say that he really deserved those rings.

With the retirement of West, I think only 6 or 7 players remained now to that famous 2003-04 draft that is actively playing until now. If Im not mistaken.
West has become an all star player when he is on the Pacers. I remember the time when the Pacers team composed of West, PG, Hill, Hibbert etc. They are a good team and can compete against the Heat where James, Wade and Bosh are there.

I think West has fulfilled what he has to fulfill. Contribute to the team and have championship but I didnt expect that he will retire now since he can contribute his vetetan experience in Warriors.

Yeah but you will noticed that he is a bit tad slow with the rest of the GSW and the rest of the NBA. Perhaps its really up for him to retire and maybe getting another last year with the final straw to finished his long career. He got want he wanted as a GSW so its time for him to hang his jersey.
Yeah I agree with you. He can't cope up with how the Warriors are playing. I think @Ipwitch is right that he just joined Warriors for a taste of championship before his retirement because he didn't get it when he is on the Hornets and Pacers. Its really time for him to retire yeah. Cheesy
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September 03, 2018, 07:02:18 PM
Dirk could have retired like two years ago, he is not making any big difference to mavs roster and he is only playing because that dude brought a championship to mavs almost all by himself.

During the era of multiple superstars getting together to win, remembering the time dirk and some role players won it really brings a lot more meaning to that championship, but he is playing only because of that rings worth, otherwise he would have been already forced to cut with the way he plays. Vince as well, both of them are not contributing to their teams like they used to, they are just playing because they were once amazing players.

That is not true.
They are a good reminder for young players that they also could be stars.
One more thing is they could share their experiences from all that years they have played just like a coach.
It is not a bad thing to have a veteran on one team. It is actually a good one.
Sharing their ideas and also plays that they have been thru from clinch moments.
But we should weigh his contribution to the team, remember that being in a team means expenses on the part of the team.
If he can only provide such inspiration, I think it's not worth on the amount the team is paying him, I hope you get what I mean, I just feel
when you are old and do not deliver as expected, you should retire and give newcomers a chance.

Ok you got a point there.
But look, Ginobili extended hie game time also and everybody thought he was already retiring last year but didnt.
I guess one player knows his limitation and this includes Carter and Dirk.

If they feel they still have the strength to do it then why not. They are enjoying basketball and it is a good thing. Unlike who just there for money.

Dirk also might have a goal for breaking history.
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Yeah and i don't think his inspiration should be undermined since it does boost a team's morale more than anything. And he can stil deliver when called on that's for sure. Greats like dirk and manu know when a team still has a use for them and if dirk feels he can still contribute, then i think he has the team's full support.

That is a sure shot for Dirk if the play will be on the halfcourt. Either 3 or 2 it will get in, specially when it is much needed.

We may not see it now due to his low stamina that will also pull the offensive awareness of him.
Old age will be there but those hands will be kept until he gets old. It was an artwork of his trainor that made him like a monster on the league. I remember that guy crying when Dirk hits the 30k points mark.
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September 03, 2018, 02:00:41 PM
Dirk could have retired like two years ago, he is not making any big difference to mavs roster and he is only playing because that dude brought a championship to mavs almost all by himself.

During the era of multiple superstars getting together to win, remembering the time dirk and some role players won it really brings a lot more meaning to that championship, but he is playing only because of that rings worth, otherwise he would have been already forced to cut with the way he plays. Vince as well, both of them are not contributing to their teams like they used to, they are just playing because they were once amazing players.

That is not true.
They are a good reminder for young players that they also could be stars.
One more thing is they could share their experiences from all that years they have played just like a coach.
It is not a bad thing to have a veteran on one team. It is actually a good one.
Sharing their ideas and also plays that they have been thru from clinch moments.
But we should weigh his contribution to the team, remember that being in a team means expenses on the part of the team.
If he can only provide such inspiration, I think it's not worth on the amount the team is paying him, I hope you get what I mean, I just feel
when you are old and do not deliver as expected, you should retire and give newcomers a chance.

Ok you got a point there.
But look, Ginobili extended hie game time also and everybody thought he was already retiring last year but didnt.
I guess one player knows his limitation and this includes Carter and Dirk.

If they feel they still have the strength to do it then why not. They are enjoying basketball and it is a good thing. Unlike who just there for money.

Dirk also might have a goal for breaking history.
Credits to harizen.

Yeah and i don't think his inspiration should be undermined since it does boost a team's morale more than anything. And he can stil deliver when called on that's for sure. Greats like dirk and manu know when a team still has a use for them and if dirk feels he can still contribute, then i think he has the team's full support.
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September 03, 2018, 09:31:23 AM
Dirk could have retired like two years ago, he is not making any big difference to mavs roster and he is only playing because that dude brought a championship to mavs almost all by himself.

During the era of multiple superstars getting together to win, remembering the time dirk and some role players won it really brings a lot more meaning to that championship, but he is playing only because of that rings worth, otherwise he would have been already forced to cut with the way he plays. Vince as well, both of them are not contributing to their teams like they used to, they are just playing because they were once amazing players.

That is not true.
They are a good reminder for young players that they also could be stars.
One more thing is they could share their experiences from all that years they have played just like a coach.
It is not a bad thing to have a veteran on one team. It is actually a good one.
Sharing their ideas and also plays that they have been thru from clinch moments.
But we should weigh his contribution to the team, remember that being in a team means expenses on the part of the team.
If he can only provide such inspiration, I think it's not worth on the amount the team is paying him, I hope you get what I mean, I just feel
when you are old and do not deliver as expected, you should retire and give newcomers a chance.

Ok you got a point there.
But look, Ginobili extended hie game time also and everybody thought he was already retiring last year but didnt.
I guess one player knows his limitation and this includes Carter and Dirk.

If they feel they still have the strength to do it then why not. They are enjoying basketball and it is a good thing. Unlike who just there for money.

Dirk also might have a goal for breaking history.
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September 02, 2018, 09:20:30 PM
Dirk could have retired like two years ago, he is not making any big difference to mavs roster and he is only playing because that dude brought a championship to mavs almost all by himself.

During the era of multiple superstars getting together to win, remembering the time dirk and some role players won it really brings a lot more meaning to that championship, but he is playing only because of that rings worth, otherwise he would have been already forced to cut with the way he plays. Vince as well, both of them are not contributing to their teams like they used to, they are just playing because they were once amazing players.

That is not true.
They are a good reminder for young players that they also could be stars.
One more thing is they could share their experiences from all that years they have played just like a coach.
It is not a bad thing to have a veteran on one team. It is actually a good one.
Sharing their ideas and also plays that they have been thru from clinch moments.
But we should weigh his contribution to the team, remember that being in a team means expenses on the part of the team.
If he can only provide such inspiration, I think it's not worth on the amount the team is paying him, I hope you get what I mean, I just feel
when you are old and do not deliver as expected, you should retire and give newcomers a chance.
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September 02, 2018, 11:45:52 AM
Dirk could have retired like two years ago, he is not making any big difference to mavs roster and he is only playing because that dude brought a championship to mavs almost all by himself.

During the era of multiple superstars getting together to win, remembering the time dirk and some role players won it really brings a lot more meaning to that championship, but he is playing only because of that rings worth, otherwise he would have been already forced to cut with the way he plays. Vince as well, both of them are not contributing to their teams like they used to, they are just playing because they were once amazing players.

That is not true.
They are a good reminder for young players that they also could be stars.
One more thing is they could share their experiences from all that years they have played just like a coach.
It is not a bad thing to have a veteran on one team. It is actually a good one.
Sharing their ideas and also plays that they have been thru from clinch moments.
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September 02, 2018, 11:32:50 AM
Dirk could have retired like two years ago, he is not making any big difference to mavs roster and he is only playing because that dude brought a championship to mavs almost all by himself.

During the era of multiple superstars getting together to win, remembering the time dirk and some role players won it really brings a lot more meaning to that championship, but he is playing only because of that rings worth, otherwise he would have been already forced to cut with the way he plays. Vince as well, both of them are not contributing to their teams like they used to, they are just playing because they were once amazing players.

It's impressive how long Dirk and Vince Cater have been able to play.  You don't see many 40 year olds with the athleticism that Vince Carter still has.  VC's own cousin Tracy Mcgrady had to retire at the age of 34 and Kobe Bryant could barely even make it up and down the court at age 37.  Carter is a true genetic freak, I've seen some amazing highlights of him still dunking at age 40.
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September 02, 2018, 11:06:12 AM
Another veteran retirement.

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/david-west-retires-nba-news-pacers-warriors-spurs-pelicans-hornets-xavier/h7rilycrr0tm1s33l1iow511q]David West retires after 15 NBA seasons

One of the good backup player of the Golden State Warriors. These guy have an overall 4 teams he played on his whole career and got 2 rings in his final 2 season with the Golden State Warriors (2016–2018). Unlike other players who earned their rings without effort*, we all know that West contributes much in Warriors so I will say that he really deserved those rings.

With the retirement of West, I think only 6 or 7 players remained now to that famous 2003-04 draft that is actively playing until now. If Im not mistaken.
West has become an all star player when he is on the Pacers. I remember the time when the Pacers team composed of West, PG, Hill, Hibbert etc. They are a good team and can compete against the Heat where James, Wade and Bosh are there.

I think West has fulfilled what he has to fulfill. Contribute to the team and have championship but I didnt expect that he will retire now since he can contribute his vetetan experience in Warriors.

Yeah but you will noticed that he is a bit tad slow with the rest of the GSW and the rest of the NBA. Perhaps its really up for him to retire and maybe getting another last year with the final straw to finished his long career. He got want he wanted as a GSW so its time for him to hang his jersey.
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September 02, 2018, 10:21:56 AM
Dirk could have retired like two years ago, he is not making any big difference to mavs roster and he is only playing because that dude brought a championship to mavs almost all by himself.

During the era of multiple superstars getting together to win, remembering the time dirk and some role players won it really brings a lot more meaning to that championship, but he is playing only because of that rings worth, otherwise he would have been already forced to cut with the way he plays. Vince as well, both of them are not contributing to their teams like they used to, they are just playing because they were once amazing players.
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September 02, 2018, 02:49:21 AM
~snip~
I'm not a fan of him but whenever there are old timers that are announcing their retirements I'm also thinking that I'm getting old. Too many legends are going to be added to the list as well. I don't want to see any more of these retirements.

Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter are I think the next ones. They aren't veteran. They are now oldies lol. 40+ age.
Oh boy my boys Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter I forgot that they are still playing and I've heard that Vince is playing for his last season, this year. Man, we are growing old and these prime superstars are also retiring soon.

LMAO, I know that you still remember Vince Carter Slam Dunk in 2000 mate. That's 18 freaking years ago.. So we are definitely getting older as well.  Grin. Dirk on the other hand is inching closer to Wilt record plus he only missed a couple of games I think last season so definitely he is not retiring.

Dirk had extended his contract to 1 year, probably he's just testing his capabilities to go against the youngins in the league today. As we all know, the era he had when he was in his prime was completely different than today's. Player has evolved, when dont see as many centers who can shoot 3's before than today.

Yes we are getting older too harizen. Grin

As of centers or forwards who have good shooting range like Dirk it will be Aldridge and Porzingis at my vote.

This two are almost copying the way Dirk shoots the ball. Step backs and the most known Dirk shot fade away with just a tip toe. It is still working but with players with just height advantages and long reach. If they can perfect it then maybe they could end up the same with Dirk getting a championship.
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September 02, 2018, 02:28:40 AM
Another veteran retirement.

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/david-west-retires-nba-news-pacers-warriors-spurs-pelicans-hornets-xavier/h7rilycrr0tm1s33l1iow511q]David West retires after 15 NBA seasons

One of the good backup player of the Golden State Warriors. These guy have an overall 4 teams he played on his whole career and got 2 rings in his final 2 season with the Golden State Warriors (2016–2018). Unlike other players who earned their rings without effort*, we all know that West contributes much in Warriors so I will say that he really deserved those rings.

With the retirement of West, I think only 6 or 7 players remained now to that famous 2003-04 draft that is actively playing until now. If Im not mistaken.
West has become an all star player when he is on the Pacers. I remember the time when the Pacers team composed of West, PG, Hill, Hibbert etc. They are a good team and can compete against the Heat where James, Wade and Bosh are there.

I think West has fulfilled what he has to fulfill. Contribute to the team and have championship but I didnt expect that he will retire now since he can contribute his vetetan experience in Warriors.
He just want championship, actually he accept a lower salary just to play with the warriors.
This guy is really tough but I don't like players who join a super team just to be champion easily, that is just my opinion but in overall, west is a tough player.
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September 02, 2018, 12:52:53 AM
Another veteran retirement.

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/david-west-retires-nba-news-pacers-warriors-spurs-pelicans-hornets-xavier/h7rilycrr0tm1s33l1iow511q]David West retires after 15 NBA seasons

One of the good backup player of the Golden State Warriors. These guy have an overall 4 teams he played on his whole career and got 2 rings in his final 2 season with the Golden State Warriors (2016–2018). Unlike other players who earned their rings without effort*, we all know that West contributes much in Warriors so I will say that he really deserved those rings.

With the retirement of West, I think only 6 or 7 players remained now to that famous 2003-04 draft that is actively playing until now. If Im not mistaken.
West has become an all star player when he is on the Pacers. I remember the time when the Pacers team composed of West, PG, Hill, Hibbert etc. They are a good team and can compete against the Heat where James, Wade and Bosh are there.

I think West has fulfilled what he has to fulfill. Contribute to the team and have championship but I didnt expect that he will retire now since he can contribute his vetetan experience in Warriors.
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September 01, 2018, 07:47:34 PM
~snip~
I'm not a fan of him but whenever there are old timers that are announcing their retirements I'm also thinking that I'm getting old. Too many legends are going to be added to the list as well. I don't want to see any more of these retirements.

Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter are I think the next ones. They aren't veteran. They are now oldies lol. 40+ age.
Oh boy my boys Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter I forgot that they are still playing and I've heard that Vince is playing for his last season, this year. Man, we are growing old and these prime superstars are also retiring soon.

Yeah didn't notice that too.
But Carter may have been resting much than playing. This guys bones are getting weaker so they really need much of a rest and cannot do much of the running anymore. They still have the skill, but stamina will kill them. Grin

If only Carter did not get that injury. He might have been a great player by now with rings on his fingers.
Remember the time when I was still a kid and most of my playmates are imitating and calling their moves as Carter's.

Time comes when a great player needs to rest and retire and this will come also to the current superstars that we are all admiring today, let's move on to another discussion.
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September 01, 2018, 06:55:50 PM
Another veteran retirement.

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/david-west-retires-nba-news-pacers-warriors-spurs-pelicans-hornets-xavier/h7rilycrr0tm1s33l1iow511q]David West retires after 15 NBA seasons

One of the good backup player of the Golden State Warriors. These guy have an overall 4 teams he played on his whole career and got 2 rings in his final 2 season with the Golden State Warriors (2016–2018). Unlike other players who earned their rings without effort*, we all know that West contributes much in Warriors so I will say that he really deserved those rings.

With the retirement of West, I think only 6 or 7 players remained now to that famous 2003-04 draft that is actively playing until now. If Im not mistaken.

It's only normal for players to retire. With what West has erformed in his last season, we see that he cannot keep up the pace of the new era of basketball. He cannot keep up with a fast paced game which only slows down the offense of his team. Eventhough he is still as effective as before, but his effectiveness fall short in the endgame. It's better to retire with a ring than retire due to injury.
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September 01, 2018, 01:52:19 PM
~snip~
I'm not a fan of him but whenever there are old timers that are announcing their retirements I'm also thinking that I'm getting old. Too many legends are going to be added to the list as well. I don't want to see any more of these retirements.

Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter are I think the next ones. They aren't veteran. They are now oldies lol. 40+ age.
Oh boy my boys Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter I forgot that they are still playing and I've heard that Vince is playing for his last season, this year. Man, we are growing old and these prime superstars are also retiring soon.

LMAO, I know that you still remember Vince Carter Slam Dunk in 2000 mate. That's 18 freaking years ago.. So we are definitely getting older as well.  Grin. Dirk on the other hand is inching closer to Wilt record plus he only missed a couple of games I think last season so definitely he is not retiring.

Dirk had extended his contract to 1 year, probably he's just testing his capabilities to go against the youngins in the league today. As we all know, the era he had when he was in his prime was completely different than today's. Player has evolved, when dont see as many centers who can shoot 3's before than today.

Yeah, most probably, but if we are going to based from his last years performance, he remains healthy so we hope that he can continue and breaks Chamberlain record before finally retiring. Yes players evolved, he is one of the pioneers back in the days wherein a big guy can shoot 3's. A good read for all Dirk fans:

https://247sports.com/nba/mavericks/Article/LEGACY-The-20-Most-Important-Games-of-Dirk-Nowitzkis-20-Year-Dallas-Mavericks-Career-Part-I-108789192/
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