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Quote from: harizen on December 13, 2018, 08:44:47 AM

So it's now confirmed who will the Los Angeles Lakers give up for Trevor Ariza's deal. It's Kentavious Caldwell-Pope.

But unfortunately, as of the latest trade updates, the trade is now failed. The reason? Phoenix Suns want a piece of another Lakers youngsters (Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart) on which the latter refused.

I wondered now if KCP will still give his 100% to the Lakers now that he knows the team is willing to take part ways to him.

If I was in KCP's situation, I think that It really is quite upsetting to know that they can easily give him out like that, but its also a thing that I must change, if they want Trevor Ariza then they'll have to pick another player since I'm performing at my best, KCP is an unfazed player, even if this happened, he will still definitely play at his best, and I think its just pure desperation for the Lakers Management to give out KCP for Trevor Ariza.

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It is seriously sad to see Lebron not caring anymore. First he started to shoot a lot more threes than he previously did, which is great because it will give him some more longevity while still being a threat on offense but not getting inside like a bulldozer to get the defense collapse on him so he can kick back to whoever outside was his playing style for years so when you see a shooter Lebron it became like is this even Lebron.

Now he is not even caring on defense, dude was defending harden and literally just gave up and switched and left the building even before game ended, that is not the competitive Lebron we remember, that is the early cavs choke artist Lebron we all first initially get to know. I know Lakers are not a big contender this year but he is not even trying to achieve anything, he is just there to be there that is all. Even his rebounding and assist numbers are incredibly low for him (of course amazing for any other player in the league).

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Quote from: gabmen on December 14, 2018, 12:40:43 PM

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Quote from: Reid on December 14, 2018, 01:12:40 AM

Almost a win against the Houston Rockets but suddenly Harden became a Hollywood actor again and the referees bit the trap that he planted.
A lot of wrong calls had been made and suddenly the Lakers are at panic on the last minutes of the 4th quarter. It is all Harden afterwards and he got another triple double.

Harden got lot of victims on that soft acting even right from the 1st quarter. Clearly most calls are wrong. I seldom noticed refs doing a shitty call but on this game they are.. well never mind.

On the other hand, Harden did some spectacular job on this night's game. A monster performance of 50 big points alongside with double-double stats forming his 4th 50+ pts. triple double on his career. This kind of record is difficult to achieved and only 6 NBA players did that including him.

Well you get brakes like that when you're a superstar so i don't blame it on harden. And yeah, it was his night and sadly the lakers were on the losing end of him making history. Still a long way to go though and they're still in a very good position to make it to the next round.

Yes but there are chances also that they might face the Houston Rockets at the playoffs.
They really need to find a way to defeat this guys or else they might get swept in an instant.
I know it sounds so early but it is good to just prepare everything. They need to get stronger specially with their chemistry. Their plays are coming more from their second stringers which aint good. Both should have good gameplays.

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Quote from: harizen on December 14, 2018, 10:43:49 AM

Quote from: Reid on December 14, 2018, 01:12:40 AM

Almost a win against the Houston Rockets but suddenly Harden became a Hollywood actor again and the referees bit the trap that he planted.
A lot of wrong calls had been made and suddenly the Lakers are at panic on the last minutes of the 4th quarter. It is all Harden afterwards and he got another triple double.

Harden got lot of victims on that soft acting even right from the 1st quarter. Clearly most calls are wrong. I seldom noticed refs doing a shitty call but on this game they are.. well never mind.

On the other hand, Harden did some spectacular job on this night's game. A monster performance of 50 big points alongside with double-double stats forming his 4th 50+ pts. triple double on his career. This kind of record is difficult to achieved and only 6 NBA players did that including him.

Well you get brakes like that when you're a superstar so i don't blame it on harden. And yeah, it was his night and sadly the lakers were on the losing end of him making history. Still a long way to go though and they're still in a very good position to make it to the next round.

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Quote from: Reid on December 14, 2018, 01:12:40 AM

Almost a win against the Houston Rockets but suddenly Harden became a Hollywood actor again and the referees bit the trap that he planted.
A lot of wrong calls had been made and suddenly the Lakers are at panic on the last minutes of the 4th quarter. It is all Harden afterwards and he got another triple double.

Harden got lot of victims on that soft acting even right from the 1st quarter. Clearly most calls are wrong. I seldom noticed refs doing a shitty call but on this game they are.. well never mind.

On the other hand, Harden did some spectacular job on this night's game. A monster performance of 50 big points alongside with double-double stats forming his 4th 50+ pts. triple double on his career. This kind of record is difficult to achieved and only 6 NBA players did that including him.

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KCP has never been a Laker for life type of dude, he is a journeyman at best and he is just there to get some minutes until Josh Hart starts playing better.

Normally, if they could have gotten a big as well they have a great young core with Lonzo-Hart-Igram-Kuzma but they are missing a center and all those four players are not good enough to contend even in 5 years so they are expecting them to grow into more championship role player or bench levels and they will cover the rest with Lebron and whoever else they could get.

I would prefer Lakers to get some great big man like cousins next year to cover the center void instead, that way they can get another guard or forward and with such a team just go for the ring, 2 more stars and they are already ready for a title.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on December 13, 2018, 04:08:17 PM

I guess it would be great if the sixers will retain Fultz in their line up for he is young and athletic. Having Embeed and the prince, I guess they will need a point guard which could run the play for them. If they do trade Fultz then they might be looking for some veteran guard or a more on playmaking point guard rather than a scoring one.

I disagree with this. If you see their performance last season where Fultz didnt play most of the time, they are superb and a playoff contender so to be honest they dont need Fultz. Simmons is a good point guard unfortunately he lacks in shooting but Redick and other members fill it up. KCP is a good addition to their team. He can use his experience and share it to other young players.

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Quote from: Reid on December 14, 2018, 01:12:40 AM

Quote from: harizen on December 13, 2018, 08:44:47 AM

So it's now confirmed who will the Los Angeles Lakers give up for Trevor Ariza's deal. It's Kentavious Caldwell-Pope.

But unfortunately, as of the latest trade updates, the trade is now failed. The reason? Phoenix Suns want a piece of another Lakers youngsters (Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart) on which the latter refused.

I wondered now if KCP will still give his 100% to the Lakers now that he knows the team is willing to take part ways to him.

That is just too much. This youngsters are already blooming like crazy and they are playing well with their chemistry now.

Almost a win against the Houston Rockets but suddenly Harden became a Hollywood actor again and the referees bit the trap that he planted.
A lot of wrong calls had been made and suddenly the Lakers are at panic on the last minutes of the 4th quarter. It is all Harden afterwards and he got another triple double.

Kuzma though, he is getting more polished in his games.

I think KCP is professional and he understands this kind of situation.
He will still play his best because as a player, all they want is just to impress the team so they will be given a good compensation, in the end
it's all about business, you can still play if you are useful and they will trade you if they want better than you.

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Quote from: harizen on December 13, 2018, 08:44:47 AM

So it's now confirmed who will the Los Angeles Lakers give up for Trevor Ariza's deal. It's Kentavious Caldwell-Pope.

But unfortunately, as of the latest trade updates, the trade is now failed. The reason? Phoenix Suns want a piece of another Lakers youngsters (Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart) on which the latter refused.

I wondered now if KCP will still give his 100% to the Lakers now that he knows the team is willing to take part ways to him.

That is just too much. This youngsters are already blooming like crazy and they are playing well with their chemistry now.

Almost a win against the Houston Rockets but suddenly Harden became a Hollywood actor again and the referees bit the trap that he planted.
A lot of wrong calls had been made and suddenly the Lakers are at panic on the last minutes of the 4th quarter. It is all Harden afterwards and he got another triple double.

Kuzma though, he is getting more polished in his games.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on December 13, 2018, 04:08:17 PM

I guess it would be great if the sixers will retain Fultz in their line up for he is young and athletic. Having Embeed and the prince, I guess they will need a point guard which could run the play for them. If they do trade Fultz then they might be looking for some veteran guard or a more on playmaking point guard rather than a scoring one.

If the trade scenario I mentioned above goes well, Sixers have the possibility to acquired Kentavious Caldwell-Pope in exchange for Markell Fultz. And now that the 3 team deal failed, other teams got interest on Fultz.

Since the arrival of Fultz in Sixers, he is not playing well due to the fact that he missed lots of game because of injury. And this season, same scenario happened. It means that the slot for Fultz is kind of a waste that's why Sixers is willing to part ways him to utilized more their rosters. Too bad for a first pick to experienced that kind of thing early in their career. So for me, a good move if they will trade Fultz as long as the arranged deal will be good.

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Quote from: harizen on December 13, 2018, 01:20:43 PM

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Quote from: harizen on December 13, 2018, 08:44:47 AM

So it's now confirmed who will the Los Angeles Lakers give up for Trevor Ariza's deal. It's Kentavious Caldwell-Pope.

But unfortunately, as of the latest trade updates, the trade is now failed. The reason? Phoenix Suns want a piece of another Lakers youngsters (Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart) on which the latter refused.

I wondered now if KCP will still give his 100% to the Lakers now that he knows the team is willing to take part ways to him.

I think it's not about giving your 100% but we know they are professionals so they should play the way they play as long as there are on that team no matter what the circumstances are.

Literally you are right, yes.

But somehow there is an "inside stuff" wherein a certain player will not be comfortable now in a team due to a certain reasons. There are common examples here. Well anyways, let's see what's next for the Lakers knowing that we already know who will be on their trading list if they take up another deal.

Philadelphia Sixers is also part of that supposed trade deal and they will part ways with Markelle Fultz. Sixers is now busy enhancing their lineup.

I guess it would be great if the sixers will retain Fultz in their line up for he is young and athletic. Having Embeed and the prince, I guess they will need a point guard which could run the play for them. If they do trade Fultz then they might be looking for some veteran guard or a more on playmaking point guard rather than a scoring one.

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Quote from: Indamuck on December 13, 2018, 11:15:19 AM

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Wade is really one of the best to play the game, I know he will never rank in the top 10 in any discussion ever but a player is not great because of his rankings but what he brought to the game.

Dude won one ring with Shaq when Shaq was not at his best and basically lead that team to the ring, he won with Lebron too and we all know what Lebron does to his teammates, he either makes them or breaks them, Kevin Love was one of the best Power Fowards in the league and than became a role player, Kyrie is one of the best point guards in the league and went head to head against Curry and he ran away from Cavs, Bosh became another role player.

Not Wade, wade stood his ground and earned the respect of his peers and managed to toe to toe Lebron on leadership and that created a great friendship. Doing what Wade did in this league is rare and he will be missed when he retires.

Wade is one of the most overrated players of all time. He wouldn't even of won in 2006 without Shaq. I know he had a good finals performance but without Shaq's dominant play throughout that season they wouldn't of made the finals. Wade has never been a good shooter and he has declined very rapidly in his 30s because he relied too much on his athleticism. You could even argue he was a worse player than Bosh while on the Miami Heat.

I got your point but we do have different insights!

First, comparing Bosh with Wade i dont see that Bosh is better than him. Each player do really need to depend to others thats why its called Basketball in the first place.lol

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Quote from: Ranly123 on December 13, 2018, 09:44:39 AM

Quote from: harizen on December 13, 2018, 08:44:47 AM

So it's now confirmed who will the Los Angeles Lakers give up for Trevor Ariza's deal. It's Kentavious Caldwell-Pope.

But unfortunately, as of the latest trade updates, the trade is now failed. The reason? Phoenix Suns want a piece of another Lakers youngsters (Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart) on which the latter refused.

I wondered now if KCP will still give his 100% to the Lakers now that he knows the team is willing to take part ways to him.

I think it's not about giving your 100% but we know they are professionals so they should play the way they play as long as there are on that team no matter what the circumstances are.

Literally you are right, yes.

But somehow there is an "inside stuff" wherein a certain player will not be comfortable now in a team due to a certain reasons. There are common examples here. Well anyways, let's see what's next for the Lakers knowing that we already know who will be on their trading list if they take up another deal.

Philadelphia Sixers is also part of that supposed trade deal and they will part ways with Markelle Fultz. Sixers is now busy enhancing their lineup.

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Quote from: fasdorcas on December 13, 2018, 09:53:25 AM

Wade is really one of the best to play the game, I know he will never rank in the top 10 in any discussion ever but a player is not great because of his rankings but what he brought to the game.

Dude won one ring with Shaq when Shaq was not at his best and basically lead that team to the ring, he won with Lebron too and we all know what Lebron does to his teammates, he either makes them or breaks them, Kevin Love was one of the best Power Fowards in the league and than became a role player, Kyrie is one of the best point guards in the league and went head to head against Curry and he ran away from Cavs, Bosh became another role player.

Not Wade, wade stood his ground and earned the respect of his peers and managed to toe to toe Lebron on leadership and that created a great friendship. Doing what Wade did in this league is rare and he will be missed when he retires.

Wade is one of the most overrated players of all time. He wouldn't even of won in 2006 without Shaq. I know he had a good finals performance but without Shaq's dominant play throughout that season they wouldn't of made the finals. Wade has never been a good shooter and he has declined very rapidly in his 30s because he relied too much on his athleticism. You could even argue he was a worse player than Bosh while on the Miami Heat.

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Wade is really one of the best to play the game, I know he will never rank in the top 10 in any discussion ever but a player is not great because of his rankings but what he brought to the game.

Dude won one ring with Shaq when Shaq was not at his best and basically lead that team to the ring, he won with Lebron too and we all know what Lebron does to his teammates, he either makes them or breaks them, Kevin Love was one of the best Power Fowards in the league and than became a role player, Kyrie is one of the best point guards in the league and went head to head against Curry and he ran away from Cavs, Bosh became another role player.

Not Wade, wade stood his ground and earned the respect of his peers and managed to toe to toe Lebron on leadership and that created a great friendship. Doing what Wade did in this league is rare and he will be missed when he retires.

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Quote from: harizen on December 13, 2018, 08:44:47 AM

So it's now confirmed who will the Los Angeles Lakers give up for Trevor Ariza's deal. It's Kentavious Caldwell-Pope.

But unfortunately, as of the latest trade updates, the trade is now failed. The reason? Phoenix Suns want a piece of another Lakers youngsters (Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart) on which the latter refused.

I wondered now if KCP will still give his 100% to the Lakers now that he knows the team is willing to take part ways to him.

I think it's not about giving your 100% but we know they are professionals so they should play the way they play as long as there are on that team no matter what the circumstances are.

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So it's now confirmed who will the Los Angeles Lakers give up for Trevor Ariza's deal. It's Kentavious Caldwell-Pope.

But unfortunately, as of the latest trade updates, the trade is now failed. The reason? Phoenix Suns want a piece of another Lakers youngsters (Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart) on which the latter refused.

I wondered now if KCP will still give his 100% to the Lakers now that he knows the team is willing to take part ways to him.

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The Minnesota Timberwolves are back in some kind of slump again and it is not good seeing them giving up more than 110+ points every game, this just show that the defense of them somehow worsened after their match against the Hornets. The only good news I see is KAT playing consistently and finishing the game with another double-double other than that is Wiggins is back scoring 20+ ppg on his last 4 games which is definitely a big improvement compared to the game he had with the Bulls where he made 0 points.

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Quote from: Ewinsane on December 12, 2018, 10:40:41 AM

Spurs are finally at .500 again but Derozan scored only 5 points, by comparison Byrn Forbes shot 5 three pointers and made all 5 three to help the team win today but this inconsistency at Spurs is killing them, one day Aldridge plays bad one day Derozan plays bad, sometimes their bad games collide and they lose badly. They need to find a way to bring their %100 every single game to actually matter in the league again.

True.
It seems like they need a new rotation. More like if DeRozan is not working then use ths 2nd stringers even if they are still in the first quarter with a lot of time.

I am guessing Pops already knew about this. Chemistry of the Spurs are a whack by now. They need more training sessions to make the plays work. It seems like at 100 percent of their plays they only do it successfully 10 percent per game. It is more of an isolation and it is not working quite well but 2nd stringers can do it.

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Quote from: Ewinsane on December 12, 2018, 10:40:41 AM

Spurs are finally at .500 again but Derozan scored only 5 points, by comparison Byrn Forbes shot 5 three pointers and made all 5 three to help the team win today but this inconsistency at Spurs is killing them, one day Aldridge plays bad one day Derozan plays bad, sometimes their bad games collide and they lose badly. They need to find a way to bring their %100 every single game to actually matter in the league again.

I watched just few minutes of the game but I observed that DeRozan is not his usual self because he moves so slow. Perhaps he is nursing something or just opt to pass the ball more. But I do agree that they needed to be consistent. Their top 2 players are not performing at the same level. They needed to work it out otherwise we won't see them in the playoffs.

Its really fun to watch Lebron and Wade having their final game. And you can see from the interviews that both of them are really good and close friends as Lebron keep praising Wade and that they keep pushing each others as team mates or opponents. Emotional, but it is what it is. Maybe we can see Wade sometime in the future as having a position in the Basketball operations of Miami, who knows.

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