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Quote from: justspare on August 25, 2018, 08:11:29 AM

That is not the issue, the issue which was pointed out is the critics. The people that comes on the tv after the game, its the likes of kenny, charles, shaq, bill simmons and whatevers. They believe if you are playing with lebron you need to play good a little bit to actually have a shot at the title.

However lakers are not looking to win a ring this year as an organization. If they did they would have gotten players like kawhi and give up their young guns for him. They are just trying to make lakers relevant again. However critics will assume since they have lebron they will content for a ring and anytime they lose the young ones will be put to shame because they couldn't play at lebrons level.

Is that what they really said?
It will a big blow to this young players if they will be criticized like that.
Ball have been playing good. But I am rooting for Kuzma to be Lebron's wing man. I hope Lebron sees how good of a player is that man.
He can make plays. He can pass and shoot. He just lacks experience which Lebron could give. Teach him how to be the best player in the league instead of just being the kind of Lebron when he is in Cavs.

I'm also aiming for that, I hope LeBron see this young boy potentials, he really knows how to play well just need to blend with the King and slowly but surely Lakers will be rebuild, LeBron, Rondo, Stephenson, McGee and Kuzma, a good coaching staff will be able to bring the best from this players and be competitive for this season.

Of course, the coaching staff will be challenge as well this season. If I understand it correctly, Luke is like developing this young talents so his focus is more on showing and giving them the needed experience. But with James and other veterans on-board, the goal is shifted from just winning games to winning championships. So far we have seen James "somewhat" not comfortable with 2 coaches in his career, Mike Brown and Blatt. So its gonna be interesting to see Luke, but he has experienced dealing with big time players as he used to play with Kobe.

It's easy to coach if you have Lebron in your team because he alone is already a coach.
The best player which I believe is true will play hard this coming season, it's an another team and he wants to make a legacy with the Lakers.

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Quote from: Caladonian on August 25, 2018, 09:13:20 PM

Quote from: justspare on August 25, 2018, 08:11:29 AM

That is not the issue, the issue which was pointed out is the critics. The people that comes on the tv after the game, its the likes of kenny, charles, shaq, bill simmons and whatevers. They believe if you are playing with lebron you need to play good a little bit to actually have a shot at the title.

However lakers are not looking to win a ring this year as an organization. If they did they would have gotten players like kawhi and give up their young guns for him. They are just trying to make lakers relevant again. However critics will assume since they have lebron they will content for a ring and anytime they lose the young ones will be put to shame because they couldn't play at lebrons level.

Is that what they really said?
It will a big blow to this young players if they will be criticized like that.
Ball have been playing good. But I am rooting for Kuzma to be Lebron's wing man. I hope Lebron sees how good of a player is that man.
He can make plays. He can pass and shoot. He just lacks experience which Lebron could give. Teach him how to be the best player in the league instead of just being the kind of Lebron when he is in Cavs.

I'm also aiming for that, I hope LeBron see this young boy potentials, he really knows how to play well just need to blend with the King and slowly but surely Lakers will be rebuild, LeBron, Rondo, Stephenson, McGee and Kuzma, a good coaching staff will be able to bring the best from this players and be competitive for this season.

Of course, the coaching staff will be challenge as well this season. If I understand it correctly, Luke is like developing this young talents so his focus is more on showing and giving them the needed experience. But with James and other veterans on-board, the goal is shifted from just winning games to winning championships. So far we have seen James "somewhat" not comfortable with 2 coaches in his career, Mike Brown and Blatt. So its gonna be interesting to see Luke, but he has experienced dealing with big time players as he used to play with Kobe.

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Quote from: Caladonian on August 25, 2018, 09:13:20 PM

Quote from: justspare on August 25, 2018, 08:11:29 AM

That is not the issue, the issue which was pointed out is the critics. The people that comes on the tv after the game, its the likes of kenny, charles, shaq, bill simmons and whatevers. They believe if you are playing with lebron you need to play good a little bit to actually have a shot at the title.

However lakers are not looking to win a ring this year as an organization. If they did they would have gotten players like kawhi and give up their young guns for him. They are just trying to make lakers relevant again. However critics will assume since they have lebron they will content for a ring and anytime they lose the young ones will be put to shame because they couldn't play at lebrons level.

Is that what they really said?
It will a big blow to this young players if they will be criticized like that.
Ball have been playing good. But I am rooting for Kuzma to be Lebron's wing man. I hope Lebron sees how good of a player is that man.
He can make plays. He can pass and shoot. He just lacks experience which Lebron could give. Teach him how to be the best player in the league instead of just being the kind of Lebron when he is in Cavs.

I'm also aiming for that, I hope LeBron see this young boy potentials, he really knows how to play well just need to blend with the King and slowly but surely Lakers will be rebuild, LeBron, Rondo, Stephenson, McGee and Kuzma, a good coaching staff will be able to bring the best from this players and be competitive for this season.

Well Luke have a lot of experience since he went to many Finals game with Kobe. He may know what to do and how to be a real champion.

He may be at the 2nd team of Lakers but he knows some plays from Phil Jackson. This could be their key to winning. As long as Lebron doesnt get in the way.
Let the coach do his job and Lebron be the player to do it on court.

Somehow that might add for them to be on the top of Western Conference.

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Quote from: justspare on August 25, 2018, 08:11:29 AM

That is not the issue, the issue which was pointed out is the critics. The people that comes on the tv after the game, its the likes of kenny, charles, shaq, bill simmons and whatevers. They believe if you are playing with lebron you need to play good a little bit to actually have a shot at the title.

However lakers are not looking to win a ring this year as an organization. If they did they would have gotten players like kawhi and give up their young guns for him. They are just trying to make lakers relevant again. However critics will assume since they have lebron they will content for a ring and anytime they lose the young ones will be put to shame because they couldn't play at lebrons level.

Is that what they really said?
It will a big blow to this young players if they will be criticized like that.
Ball have been playing good. But I am rooting for Kuzma to be Lebron's wing man. I hope Lebron sees how good of a player is that man.
He can make plays. He can pass and shoot. He just lacks experience which Lebron could give. Teach him how to be the best player in the league instead of just being the kind of Lebron when he is in Cavs.

I'm also aiming for that, I hope LeBron see this young boy potentials, he really knows how to play well just need to blend with the King and slowly but surely Lakers will be rebuild, LeBron, Rondo, Stephenson, McGee and Kuzma, a good coaching staff will be able to bring the best from this players and be competitive for this season.

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Quote from: Reid on August 25, 2018, 03:45:14 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on August 23, 2018, 09:34:04 AM

Quote from: Captain Corporate on August 21, 2018, 12:44:04 AM

Channing frye has talked about how hard it will be for lakers young players to play with lebron this year.

The young players but I don't think it will be hard for them to play with Lebron.

They will value the worth of Lebron being in Lakers at this season and these young players will definitely love to play with him and learn a lot from his champions experiences.

Correct.

But they cannot just stay low when they see Lebron in spotlight for his good plays.
They must be in line with him. When the rhythm is with him it must be continued by someone in their team.
They cannot just lean it all to Lebron James.

I wish what Lebron did on the Cavs last season will not happen again in Lakers now that most of the roster are young players. I don't think they can play well with Lebron in the first games but as time goes by, these young players must learn something to him.

Yes. Chemistry will be seen maybe in mid season of the game.
Trainings, and other stuffs they do will make it happen.

Lebron is a leader. It will be an easy job for the youngsters to go with his flow.
But omce Lebron is out they need to make their own plays. Somehow be as much like Lebron in keeping the lead.

In my opinion, they will be in Top5 of West and that's maximum they can achieve with this squad. However, at the end of this season some good players (like Leonard etc.) may join them and they can compete for title then maybe.

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Quote from: justspare on August 25, 2018, 08:11:29 AM

That is not the issue, the issue which was pointed out is the critics. The people that comes on the tv after the game, its the likes of kenny, charles, shaq, bill simmons and whatevers. They believe if you are playing with lebron you need to play good a little bit to actually have a shot at the title.

However lakers are not looking to win a ring this year as an organization. If they did they would have gotten players like kawhi and give up their young guns for him. They are just trying to make lakers relevant again. However critics will assume since they have lebron they will content for a ring and anytime they lose the young ones will be put to shame because they couldn't play at lebrons level.

Is that what they really said?
It will a big blow to this young players if they will be criticized like that.
Ball have been playing good. But I am rooting for Kuzma to be Lebron's wing man. I hope Lebron sees how good of a player is that man.
He can make plays. He can pass and shoot. He just lacks experience which Lebron could give. Teach him how to be the best player in the league instead of just being the kind of Lebron when he is in Cavs.

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That is not the issue, the issue which was pointed out is the critics. The people that comes on the tv after the game, its the likes of kenny, charles, shaq, bill simmons and whatevers. They believe if you are playing with lebron you need to play good a little bit to actually have a shot at the title.

However lakers are not looking to win a ring this year as an organization. If they did they would have gotten players like kawhi and give up their young guns for him. They are just trying to make lakers relevant again. However critics will assume since they have lebron they will content for a ring and anytime they lose the young ones will be put to shame because they couldn't play at lebrons level.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on August 21, 2018, 12:44:04 AM

Channing frye has talked about how hard it will be for lakers young players to play with lebron this year.

The young players but I don't think it will be hard for them to play with Lebron.

They will value the worth of Lebron being in Lakers at this season and these young players will definitely love to play with him and learn a lot from his champions experiences.

Correct.

But they cannot just stay low when they see Lebron in spotlight for his good plays.
They must be in line with him. When the rhythm is with him it must be continued by someone in their team.
They cannot just lean it all to Lebron James.

I see that happening over and over again. Unlike, when he was at Miami. Wade is there and Bosh also which have high confidence in their skills.
Lakers roster must have that also.

Like the old teams where Lebron has played for before, they have to adjust as well.

It's not just being a one man team but LBJ also did some boost to the confidence of his teammates. Over all for his transfer is a great addition.

I don't see them adjusting to the plays that they have but Lebron, the King, Adjust for them. Lebron James is a great, an excellent player the reason he is called "the King". A lot of supporters follow him the reason there are a lot of players being boo-ed and being blamed saying that they are not adjusting to the playstyle of Lebron but I think Lebron is adjusting to their styles but just can't keep up the pace.

Actually each and everyone of them have to adjust with their new roster.

But I'm sure that they already did it if they already held some practice games before the opening of this season.

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Quote from: Reid on August 25, 2018, 03:45:14 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on August 23, 2018, 09:34:04 AM

Quote from: Captain Corporate on August 21, 2018, 12:44:04 AM

Channing frye has talked about how hard it will be for lakers young players to play with lebron this year.

The young players but I don't think it will be hard for them to play with Lebron.

They will value the worth of Lebron being in Lakers at this season and these young players will definitely love to play with him and learn a lot from his champions experiences.

Correct.

But they cannot just stay low when they see Lebron in spotlight for his good plays.
They must be in line with him. When the rhythm is with him it must be continued by someone in their team.
They cannot just lean it all to Lebron James.

I wish what Lebron did on the Cavs last season will not happen again in Lakers now that most of the roster are young players. I don't think they can play well with Lebron in the first games but as time goes by, these young players must learn something to him.

Yes. Chemistry will be seen maybe in mid season of the game.
Trainings, and other stuffs they do will make it happen.

Lebron is a leader. It will be an easy job for the youngsters to go with his flow.
But omce Lebron is out they need to make their own plays. Somehow be as much like Lebron in keeping the lead.

I think Lebron will act as the coach also, we know him, he wants his play to be follow, and he had problems with coaches in the past.
He should know his rule, he is a star player but still the coach create the play and player just execute, he need to fully follow instructions all the time.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on August 23, 2018, 09:34:04 AM

Quote from: Captain Corporate on August 21, 2018, 12:44:04 AM

Channing frye has talked about how hard it will be for lakers young players to play with lebron this year.

The young players but I don't think it will be hard for them to play with Lebron.

They will value the worth of Lebron being in Lakers at this season and these young players will definitely love to play with him and learn a lot from his champions experiences.

Correct.

But they cannot just stay low when they see Lebron in spotlight for his good plays.
They must be in line with him. When the rhythm is with him it must be continued by someone in their team.
They cannot just lean it all to Lebron James.

I wish what Lebron did on the Cavs last season will not happen again in Lakers now that most of the roster are young players. I don't think they can play well with Lebron in the first games but as time goes by, these young players must learn something to him.

Yes. Chemistry will be seen maybe in mid season of the game.
Trainings, and other stuffs they do will make it happen.

Lebron is a leader. It will be an easy job for the youngsters to go with his flow.
But omce Lebron is out they need to make their own plays. Somehow be as much like Lebron in keeping the lead.

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Quote from: Sukut on August 24, 2018, 03:39:11 PM

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Quote from: harizen on August 24, 2018, 12:41:34 PM

Quote from: justspare on August 24, 2018, 12:11:04 PM

You guys are missing the point. Playing with lebron is not hard on the court, on the court he tries and manages to make life as easy as possible for you, he does like 99% of the work for you.

While he is trying to make life easy of course his teammates must step up and not just rely on him. That wasn't the scenario last season in Cleveland Cavaliers. Look at how horrible Cavaliers stats if Lebron literally leaves the court (during resting period).

Quote from: justspare on August 24, 2018, 12:11:04 PM

The critics and people online all expect these new young players on lakers to actually come up and do great things.

People are really expecting to these young core players to lift up the Lakers even by a bit after post Bryant era even prior to LeBron's arrival at Lakers. Ingram and Lonzo both at top 2 at Round 1 draft. If a player are on top picks for at least top 5, people will really expect on them to show good performance.

I agree with what @harizen is saying. Lakers young players needs to step up otherwise it will be all Lebron James again. I'm not saying its a bad thing, but any small or big help coming from them will lift up some burden off the shoulder of Lebron.

Remember he is not that young and he needs every help he can get. And the Lakers doesn't want to be like the Cavs team of last year, only few players try to step up and give the King some needed help but then again its a 5 man team. I wanted to see Lonzo and Ingram having good stats at the same time James is playing like his old self.

The coach and the management will not be just LJ. That's not the reason why they brought him to LA.

Lebron is very dominant with the ball he historically makes shooters better, Hart started to show up more and LBJ is starting to like him he had started to unlock and expand parts of his game he'd never before displayed. summer league was a small preview.Lonzo expecting a huge leap in durability and availability, which itself skyrockets his value while Kuzma he needs to work hard as he will take time to make the transition since he is a new player as for Ivika Zubac i realy don't expect a lot from him and this season propably his last if he dosen't make it he wouldn't survive it.

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Quote from: Jating on August 24, 2018, 02:37:48 PM

Quote from: harizen on August 24, 2018, 12:41:34 PM

Quote from: justspare on August 24, 2018, 12:11:04 PM

You guys are missing the point. Playing with lebron is not hard on the court, on the court he tries and manages to make life as easy as possible for you, he does like 99% of the work for you.

While he is trying to make life easy of course his teammates must step up and not just rely on him. That wasn't the scenario last season in Cleveland Cavaliers. Look at how horrible Cavaliers stats if Lebron literally leaves the court (during resting period).

Quote from: justspare on August 24, 2018, 12:11:04 PM

The critics and people online all expect these new young players on lakers to actually come up and do great things.

People are really expecting to these young core players to lift up the Lakers even by a bit after post Bryant era even prior to LeBron's arrival at Lakers. Ingram and Lonzo both at top 2 at Round 1 draft. If a player are on top picks for at least top 5, people will really expect on them to show good performance.

I agree with what @harizen is saying. Lakers young players needs to step up otherwise it will be all Lebron James again. I'm not saying its a bad thing, but any small or big help coming from them will lift up some burden off the shoulder of Lebron.

Remember he is not that young and he needs every help he can get. And the Lakers doesn't want to be like the Cavs team of last year, only few players try to step up and give the King some needed help but then again its a 5 man team. I wanted to see Lonzo and Ingram having good stats at the same time James is playing like his old self.

The coach and the management will not be just LJ. That's not the reason why they brought him to LA.

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Quote from: harizen on August 24, 2018, 12:41:34 PM

Quote from: justspare on August 24, 2018, 12:11:04 PM

You guys are missing the point. Playing with lebron is not hard on the court, on the court he tries and manages to make life as easy as possible for you, he does like 99% of the work for you.

While he is trying to make life easy of course his teammates must step up and not just rely on him. That wasn't the scenario last season in Cleveland Cavaliers. Look at how horrible Cavaliers stats if Lebron literally leaves the court (during resting period).

Quote from: justspare on August 24, 2018, 12:11:04 PM

The critics and people online all expect these new young players on lakers to actually come up and do great things.

People are really expecting to these young core players to lift up the Lakers even by a bit after post Bryant era even prior to LeBron's arrival at Lakers. Ingram and Lonzo both at top 2 at Round 1 draft. If a player are on top picks for at least top 5, people will really expect on them to show good performance.

I agree with what @harizen is saying. Lakers young players needs to step up otherwise it will be all Lebron James again. I'm not saying its a bad thing, but any small or big help coming from them will lift up some burden off the shoulder of Lebron.

Remember he is not that young and he needs every help he can get. And the Lakers doesn't want to be like the Cavs team of last year, only few players try to step up and give the King some needed help but then again its a 5 man team. I wanted to see Lonzo and Ingram having good stats at the same time James is playing like his old self.

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Quote from: justspare on August 24, 2018, 12:11:04 PM

You guys are missing the point. Playing with lebron is not hard on the court, on the court he tries and manages to make life as easy as possible for you, he does like 99% of the work for you.

While he is trying to make life easy of course his teammates must step up and not just rely on him. That wasn't the scenario last season in Cleveland Cavaliers. Look at how horrible Cavaliers stats if Lebron literally leaves the court (during resting period).

Quote from: justspare on August 24, 2018, 12:11:04 PM

The critics and people online all expect these new young players on lakers to actually come up and do great things.

People are really expecting to these young core players to lift up the Lakers even by a bit after post Bryant era even prior to LeBron's arrival at Lakers. Ingram and Lonzo both at top 2 at Round 1 draft. If a player are on top picks for at least top 5, people will really expect on them to show good performance.

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You guys are missing the point. Playing with lebron is not hard on the court, on the court he tries and manages to make life as easy as possible for you, he does like 99% of the work for you. Playing with lebron makes it harder outside the court. The critics and people online all expect these new young players on lakers to actually come up and do great things.

Look at what happened to previous players lebron played with, all of them are gone now, none of them are big stars, because if you play with lebron you are bound to win and if you fail to give a proper performance everyone will judge you. Kyrie got out just in time and he played amazingly during the 2016 finals and as soon as he saw that it was really unfair to expect him to play like lebron he got out.

Playing with lebron means you have very little window of bad games, if you do couple in a row, people will judge you and tell you you are worthless and a bad player.

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