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February 13, 2024, 06:51:38 AM
Anyway, with Wemby's ability I believe we'd be seeing more of it. The Spurs main focus moving forward is to improve their roster and learn how to maximize Wemby's talent. They are relatively young and seems only playing to be recognized individually, that's what make them one of the worst team in the NBA today.
Poor shot selections and missed assist for an easier play for the Spurs has been circulating over the internet today.

He is still on his rookie year, of course we will see more than that in the future. If you look at Wemby now, all he have is his height and his good ball handling ability, but once he developed his body and get more experience, theres's a possibility that he will become more dominant than the current state of Giannis. I'm just hoping that he will stay healthy as the Spurs will probably be back to a playoff team once everything is developed within the team.
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February 13, 2024, 04:32:01 AM
A triple double with blocks hasn't been seen for quite a while I would say.

Well, Wemby accomplished that last night with 10 blocks versus the Raptors. They also blew out Toronto in dominating fashion.
It's funny, the Spurs are one of the worst teams but occasionally they win games by a huge margin, this time even on the road.

Not too long because the last triple double with blocks according to NBA records was Clint Capella who recorded 10+ scores, rebs, and blocks in 2021 for the Atlanta Hawks.
But these are the only players who did it with over 25 pts.

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I don't know if I remember it correctly but Hassan Whiteside with Miami Heat was recording almost a triple double every game with his blocks averaging 5 per game.
Anyway, with Wemby's ability I believe we'd be seeing more of it. The Spurs main focus moving forward is to improve their roster and learn how to maximize Wemby's talent. They are relatively young and seems only playing to be recognized individually, that's what make them one of the worst team in the NBA today.
Poor shot selections and missed assist for an easier play for the Spurs has been circulating over the internet today.
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February 13, 2024, 04:23:39 AM
A triple double with blocks hasn't been seen for quite a while I would say.

Well, Wemby accomplished that last night with 10 blocks versus the Raptors. They also blew out Toronto in dominating fashion.
It's funny, the Spurs are one of the worst teams but occasionally they win games by a huge margin, this time even on the road.

By the way, here are the 10 blocks if someone wants to watch it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETuW84R917Y
I will not be surprised if he gets a quadruple-double in the future as well. When was the last time we saw a stat like that in a single game? I would love to see it happen.

The last time that it happened was in 2021 by Clint Capela when against the Timberwolves. Just imagine what he can do in the next few years. He's just in his rookie season and yet, we are seeing performances that a normal rookie can't do at all. The Spurs are lucky to get him in the draft pick. What they need now is an all-star, and a bunch of role players more to get that title.

TBH, I also don't know why they are at the bottom of the standings. Well, they're better than either Washington or Detroit anyway so I guess this is all planned by Coach Pop to get another high draft pick next off-season. Smiley
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February 13, 2024, 04:08:52 AM
What a surprising day. Many upsets did happen.

Houston Rockets versus New York Knicks. Rockets won 105-103. That was -4.5 with the Knicks as the favorites before the start of the game.

Atlanta Hawks versus Chicago Bulls - Bulls won 126-136. -3.5 in favor of the Hawks was the starting spread and worse they were defeated at their home.

Charlotte Hornets versus Indiana Pacers - Hornets won 111-102. The starting spread was -10.5 for the Pacers so this is big for those who thought the Hornets can win that one and made a bet. One of the worse performances of the Pacers considering they have Haliburton who played 34 minutes.

Cleveland Cavaliers versus Philadelphia 76ers - 76ers won this match 121-123. The Cavs starting spread was also -10.5. I was expecting the Cavs to win that match considering how undermanned the 76ers were without Joel Embiid and Tobias Harris. I bet Doc Rivers is very happy.

Oh and the LA Clippers. That was just frustrating to watch. They could at least keep the game close against the strong Timberwolves. -4.5 was the starting spread and they are beaten badly in a blowout.

A sad day for those who made bets for the favorites and happy times for the underdog takers.
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February 13, 2024, 03:54:59 AM
I'm done with doubting the Heat to be honest. Last season, they also didn't finish well. IIRC, they were also in the play-in tournament but they won the ECF by defeating the 2 strongest teams which are the Bucks and the Celtics in the ECF. As long as Butler is healthy, they have a chance to be in the finals again. What we saw in the regular season will be different in the playoffs, so better not doubt them.

Yeah, good results in the regular season sometimes don't mean that a team will do well in the playoffs as well as bad results in the regular season don't mean that a team won't do well in the playoffs. By the way, the Heat are currently in the 8th spot in the Eastern Conference standings, and I personally have no doubt they can make the play-in tournament and probably surprise fans in the playoffs.

Yeah, but it's a different Heat though, they still look solid with Butler and Bam, but it's going to be tough again for this year.

Great win in the road by the Warriors, Thompson was able to redeem himself in this game and the splash brothers combine for 51 big points. Wiggins is slowly getting into the rotation and another game for him with 17 points.

So let's see how long the Warriors can stretch their winning streak.

I don't know, but I'm still not sold on the Warriors, they need to be consistent. It's good to see Klay finally hitting that 20+ points, but still there are more area to improved specially in the middle. The Jazz though wasn't able to take advantage of Lauri Markkanen height. There are several plays that Curry guarded him, but they can't bring the ball to him for easy two.

But for Warriors fans, it's a good indication that after the trade talks, no one has actually been traded and it might help the team mentally. Payton too, is back after weeks of not being able to play because of injury did contribution in defense and had a good run in the second quarter scoring 8 straight points.
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February 13, 2024, 03:06:29 AM
A triple double with blocks hasn't been seen for quite a while I would say.

Well, Wemby accomplished that last night with 10 blocks versus the Raptors. They also blew out Toronto in dominating fashion.
It's funny, the Spurs are one of the worst teams but occasionally they win games by a huge margin, this time even on the road.

Yes, lucky for those who ride on the Spurs, we never thought that they can win big in the road against a tough team in the Raptors. Toronto though is very inconsistent, they will have games wherein they play really tough, but here in their own homecourt, their shots are lousy and allowing the Spurs to score on them.

And that record that Wemby has set with his 10 blocks.

But still Chet is way ahead in the rookie of the year for me so Wemby needs a lot of that kind of performance. However, his team is struggling and so Chet's OKC and his chance to becoming the rookie has far greater chance that Wemby at this point.
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February 13, 2024, 03:03:06 AM
I'm done with doubting the Heat to be honest. Last season, they also didn't finish well. IIRC, they were also in the play-in tournament but they won the ECF by defeating the 2 strongest teams which are the Bucks and the Celtics in the ECF. As long as Butler is healthy, they have a chance to be in the finals again. What we saw in the regular season will be different in the playoffs, so better not doubt them.

Yeah, good results in the regular season sometimes don't mean that a team will do well in the playoffs as well as bad results in the regular season don't mean that a team won't do well in the playoffs. By the way, the Heat are currently in the 8th spot in the Eastern Conference standings, and I personally have no doubt they can make the play-in tournament and probably surprise fans in the playoffs.

Yeah, but it's a different Heat though, they still look solid with Butler and Bam, but it's going to be tough again for this year.

Great win in the road by the Warriors, Thompson was able to redeem himself in this game and the splash brothers combine for 51 big points. Wiggins is slowly getting into the rotation and another game for him with 17 points.

So let's see how long the Warriors can stretch their winning streak.
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February 13, 2024, 03:02:31 AM
A triple double with blocks hasn't been seen for quite a while I would say.

Well, Wemby accomplished that last night with 10 blocks versus the Raptors. They also blew out Toronto in dominating fashion.
It's funny, the Spurs are one of the worst teams but occasionally they win games by a huge margin, this time even on the road.

By the way, here are the 10 blocks if someone wants to watch it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETuW84R917Y
That's the kind of special talent he has. I wouldn't be surprise if he will win the Rookie of the year award and the defensive player of the year. Not sure if there's someone has already achieve that in the past, but if there's no one yet, Wemby is already making a history here. The good thing with Spurs is they don't put a lot of pressure on these young guys, they let them play and Wemby also had an up and downs, but as expected, they'll eventually figure out how to win with great chemisty.


My Mavs had a nail biter versus Washington. I actually watched that game and the Wizards pretty much dominated until there were 9 minutes left to play. For some reason at that point the Mavericks finally showed up big and came back from 11 points down in the 4th to win by 8. NBA is so strange sometimes.  Grin
Before that game it's already expected that the Mavs will have another blowout win, but it was the opposite from the start since Washington dominated them. Good thing Mavs knows how to come back and win this game, although bettors are not happy with the result as they didn't cover the spread.
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February 13, 2024, 02:06:44 AM
A triple double with blocks hasn't been seen for quite a while I would say.

Well, Wemby accomplished that last night with 10 blocks versus the Raptors. They also blew out Toronto in dominating fashion.
It's funny, the Spurs are one of the worst teams but occasionally they win games by a huge margin, this time even on the road.

By the way, here are the 10 blocks if someone wants to watch it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETuW84R917Y

My Mavs had a nail biter versus Washington. I actually watched that game and the Wizards pretty much dominated until there were 9 minutes left to play. For some reason at that point the Mavericks finally showed up big and came back from 11 points down in the 4th to win by 8. NBA is so strange sometimes.  Grin

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February 13, 2024, 02:00:20 AM
I'm done with doubting the Heat to be honest. Last season, they also didn't finish well. IIRC, they were also in the play-in tournament but they won the ECF by defeating the 2 strongest teams which are the Bucks and the Celtics in the ECF. As long as Butler is healthy, they have a chance to be in the finals again. What we saw in the regular season will be different in the playoffs, so better not doubt them.

Yeah, good results in the regular season sometimes don't mean that a team will do well in the playoffs as well as bad results in the regular season don't mean that a team won't do well in the playoffs. By the way, the Heat are currently in the 8th spot in the Eastern Conference standings, and I personally have no doubt they can make the play-in tournament and probably surprise fans in the playoffs.

It's not going to be a surprise since they've that before. Anyway, how about the Clippers vs Timberwolves game? I think most of us here were rooting for the Clippers to win, but they can't score on the defense of the Timeberwolves, as the road team own the paint and they gave Leonard a huge problem.

Clippers was up after the first half with James Harden last shot beyond the arc, but the 3rd quarter run was just huge, and they weren't able to come back anymore in the 4th quarter. 40-19 (3rd) 32-28 (4th), resulted to a 21 points victory by the Timberwolves.
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February 13, 2024, 01:12:36 AM
I'm done with doubting the Heat to be honest. Last season, they also didn't finish well. IIRC, they were also in the play-in tournament but they won the ECF by defeating the 2 strongest teams which are the Bucks and the Celtics in the ECF. As long as Butler is healthy, they have a chance to be in the finals again. What we saw in the regular season will be different in the playoffs, so better not doubt them.

Yeah, good results in the regular season sometimes don't mean that a team will do well in the playoffs as well as bad results in the regular season don't mean that a team won't do well in the playoffs. By the way, the Heat are currently in the 8th spot in the Eastern Conference standings, and I personally have no doubt they can make the play-in tournament and probably surprise fans in the playoffs.
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February 12, 2024, 02:01:59 PM
Mavs are not "getting better". What they need is a dominant big man to play with Luka to be fair, if they watched even just a bit of Lukas games, and I do not mean the scouting department, I mean the coaching stuff, then they would know that he plays amazing when he has a superb pick and role partner.

And I am not even talking about hall of fame level player, he just needs an all-star level big to play with him. Instead, what did they do? They got him Kyrie Irving... That makes no sense to me at all. Right now they are not getting better and as long as they keep this team and squad around they will not win any rings and Luka is the type of player who could be best player in a team that won the ring, so he just needs the squad to catch up to him.

I somewhat disagree with you here.  I think the Mavericks are getting better as Luka and Kyrie get more court time together.  Kyrie compliments Luka extremely well.  They can both shoot and spread the floor, but Kyrie can penetrate with dribbling skills while Luka uses his size and guile.  LeBron and Kyrie aren't all that much different from Luka and Kyrie, and I think you are right that the right big man (Kevin Love for the Cavs Lebron/Kyrie pairing) who can also help spread the floor and rebound could take them to the next level.
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February 12, 2024, 01:54:09 PM
Mavs are not "getting better". What they need is a dominant big man to play with Luka to be fair, if they watched even just a bit of Lukas games, and I do not mean the scouting department, I mean the coaching stuff, then they would know that he plays amazing when he has a superb pick and role partner.

And I am not even talking about hall of fame level player, he just needs an all-star level big to play with him. Instead, what did they do? They got him Kyrie Irving... That makes no sense to me at all. Right now they are not getting better and as long as they keep this team and squad around they will not win any rings and Luka is the type of player who could be best player in a team that won the ring, so he just needs the squad to catch up to him.
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February 12, 2024, 10:18:52 AM
Buttler knows how to beat the shit out of Celtics for sure hehe. This would have been a great chance for Rozier but the 6 out of 16 field goal is disappointing. Everyone except Caleb had below 50% to be fair to him but I expected better performance from him. I hope to see better in future games as he blends with the team more.

It surely will be a different game than we saw last night but that kind of game was just a warm-up for them since they are still not done with playing in the All-Star game yet after it, we will see them in a serious playing mode because everyone at the top is securing their playoffs spot without giving easy chance to others and there will be no more excuses for the star players not to play unless it is a serious matter like injuries and others. Based on the Miami Heat's performance this year, they are not getting any chance to be in the NBA finals while the Boston Celtics are playing this hard and if they cannot improve their performance and playoff ranks, they might fall off in the play-in tournament.

I'm done with doubting the Heat to be honest. Last season, they also didn't finish well. IIRC, they were also in the play-in tournament but they won the ECF by defeating the 2 strongest teams which are the Bucks and the Celtics in the ECF. As long as Butler is healthy, they have a chance to be in the finals again. What we saw in the regular season will be different in the playoffs, so better not doubt them.
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February 12, 2024, 10:10:25 AM
Buttler knows how to beat the shit out of Celtics for sure hehe. This would have been a great chance for Rozier but the 6 out of 16 field goal is disappointing. Everyone except Caleb had below 50% to be fair to him but I expected better performance from him. I hope to see better in future games as he blends with the team more.

It surely will be a different game than we saw last night but that kind of game was just a warm-up for them since they are still not done with playing in the All-Star game yet after it, we will see them in a serious playing mode because everyone at the top is securing their playoffs spot without giving easy chance to others and there will be no more excuses for the star players not to play unless it is a serious matter like injuries and others. Based on the Miami Heat's performance this year, they are not getting any chance to be in the NBA finals while the Boston Celtics are playing this hard and if they cannot improve their performance and playoff ranks, they might fall off in the play-in tournament.
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February 12, 2024, 10:06:18 AM
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It could have been fun if Butler was playing, and if he played, heat might have a chance of winning, or could be the opposite the celtics will dominate.
Buttler knows how to beat the shit out of Celtics for sure hehe.
Yes, that's why I was anticipating that Miami could give the Celtics a good competition in that game, but I was surprise when he didn't play. I was an early game so I wasn't able to monitor it completely, and just found the reason that he was absent due to personal reason, can't believe they allowed him.
And there's timetable of his come back yet. .. would it be another Wiggins?

https://www.si.com/nba/heat/miami-news/miami-heat-star-jimmy-out-versus-boston-celtics-granted-leave-of-absence
This would have been a great chance for Rozier but the 6 out of 16 field goal is disappointing. Everyone except Caleb had below 50% to be fair to him but I expected better performance from him. I hope to see better in future games as he blends with the team more.
He can't lead the Heat, if there was a player that could lead is it's either Bam or Herro IMO.
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February 12, 2024, 09:23:36 AM
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It could have been fun if Butler was playing, and if he played, heat might have a chance of winning, or could be the opposite the celtics will dominate.
Buttler knows how to beat the shit out of Celtics for sure hehe. This would have been a great chance for Rozier but the 6 out of 16 field goal is disappointing. Everyone except Caleb had below 50% to be fair to him but I expected better performance from him. I hope to see better in future games as he blends with the team more.
Rozier hasn't scored 20+ points yet since he was traded to the Heat. It means his real game was not unleash yet. What I want to see is Jaquez Jr. also getting some good minutes to bring his confidence back. Since his return from injury, his numbers are not the same anymore, probably due to his limited playing time compared to the time when Butler was out, but they could make an experiment for him, this rookie has a smart IQ on the floor, it will be a shame to waste it.
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February 12, 2024, 09:00:31 AM
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It could have been fun if Butler was playing, and if he played, heat might have a chance of winning, or could be the opposite the celtics will dominate.
Buttler knows how to beat the shit out of Celtics for sure hehe. This would have been a great chance for Rozier but the 6 out of 16 field goal is disappointing. Everyone except Caleb had below 50% to be fair to him but I expected better performance from him. I hope to see better in future games as he blends with the team more.
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February 12, 2024, 08:17:19 AM
We have two games tomorrow and it's too early in my timezone, so I might not be able to watch it but I'm betting in advance.

First game Boston vs Miami
2nd game Sacramento vs Oklahoma Thunder.


This is a great match up, it's like a playoff match up.
Obviously, the favorites here which are the Celtics and Thunder could gain a lot of bettors, but I'm thinking it is going to be an entertaining game as Miami always play competitive basketball to Boston (except for the last time). Further, Kings vs OKC is quite a great match up too, they could meet in the playoffs if they'll be able to maintain their standing, so it's hard to guess on who will win, but OKC had a very decent home record.

Ypu might be right these could be playoff previews we are getting today.  I'm laying hard on the Celtics.  Shoukd be a good game but I don't think the heat match uo well and am not buying them being a contender.  Might be proven wrong during the playoffs but I can't see them hanging with the celts here today.  Taking celts -6.5
The line moved to -8 when Butler was reported not playing. And it should be easy for the Celtics to dominate, however, it was the opposite as it has resulted to a close game where the Celtics only won by 4 points, that made the Miami Heat cover the spread. It could have been fun if Butler was playing, and if he played, heat might have a chance of winning, or could be the opposite the celtics will dominate.

On the last game, the OKC vs Kings. OKC was able to bounce back, they are still good at home and Sacramento sucks on the road. Not the result I expected from them after beating the Nuggets on their homecourt.
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February 12, 2024, 08:01:20 AM
What can you say about the new additions to the Dallas Mavericks? With PJ Washington and Daniel Gafford, the Mavs get PJ from Charlotte in exchange for Grant Williams, Seth Curry, and a first-round pick. Daniel Gafford, on the other hand, came from Washington in exchange for Richauln Holmes and a first-round pick. Watching their game against the OKC last night, I think they are a great addition for the Mavs. They can be a lob threat every time Luka drives. Gafford, a high-flying big man, is a good pair with the Mavericks' first-round pick, Derek Lively III. Imagine them in the froncourt and Luka playing as the point. Lobs are everywhere if that happens.

PJ Washington, on the other hand, is a versatile forward who can stretch the floor and also slash through the rim. What's good about him is that he doesn't use the ball that much to score; he can score off the ball, and that's good because the Mavericks have a backcourt of Luka and Kyrie who are both ball dominant.

What is also good about this acquisition is that both Gafford and Washington are young; both of them are just 25 years old. They are not in their prime yet, which is good, but with proper training and workouts, I think they can be better in the future.

Overall, the Mavericks won that trade, as you can clearly see in their game against the OKC.

It's a good deal. I am a fan of PJ Washington, he and Gafford are good additions for Dallas. And I don't like the arrogant and entitled attitude of Grant Williams. He's sometimes acting like he is a superstar which is far from reality. And Gafford already proved that he has the potential. It's sad to see Seth Curry sent to a mediocre team but he is not really doing well this season, probably because he is already aging and he is not like his brother Steph.
They had made the OKC Thunder a bad team. lol. .. But let's see more from them, if these two new addition to the team will contribute at least 15 points per game on a + overall rating, that would be big already for the team. Now that Kyrie and Luka are also healthy, I think they are now ready for the playoffs and we should be expecting their ranking to improve in the coming weeks.



Meanwhile, it seems like the Clippers and PG13 are still not reaching of renewing their contract. PG13 becomes a free agent at the end of the season and it will be very risky for the Clips. There are already rumors saying that PG13 could return to Indiana and join Hali and Siakam.
It's too early to speculate though, if the Clippers will win the NBA Finals, then for sure PG13 will be renewed with a good contract.
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