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Bulls won't get anywhere close to what they are looking to get from him.  With him being hurt who is going to trade a better player for someone who might end up being shut down for the rest of the season.  The report says 6 or so weeks but you never know with these types of things how his body will respond.  His value went down significantly with that injury.

No point of getting him if he' just going to destroy the bench and make a hole out of sitting.

That's right, a big problem for the team that are going to accept him this time. But if it's up as a business and there will be some locked in trades already, good for him and Bulls.

Given with that, it's going to take to the next season for him to do that.

Defense is just terrible and doesn't exist anymore.  Points totals are getting shattered.  For those 3 players there are not any real good options after them.  Embid is just dominant and the game runs through him.  Same with Luka, with steph I think he is just getting fed up that his squad can't score without him.  The dynasty that was the Warriors is over.

I’ve never been a big Trae Young fan, but in the last week he’s beaten LeBron James, Stephen Curry, & Kevin’s Durant. No matter the circumstances, that’s impressive. If he’d just shave his head and sign to a different team he wouldn’t be half bad.

First with Joel Embiid scoring 70 points, then Luka Doncic getting 73 points, and now Curry with 60 points as well. We are maybe entering a new era of basketball where ISO could be coming back in a different format where stars are taking most of the shots and just taking the load, not in an isolation matter of the scoring ways but more like field goal attempt ways.

The thing about these type of eras is that sometimes it looks like it will stay, like it is the new NBA thing, but then it doesn't pan out. Remember the years when Westbrook was doing TD season averages? Everyone said that became the norm, and plenty of other players had so many, became common and all, but looking at it now, it is not all that extra common, so maybe this one will fizzle out too.

This is the problem of the Dallas. They are always just compensating on lack of defense with the monster scoring of Doncic that usually always work against the team that will match their aggression.

It’s just bad matchup for them the Bucks since they have 2 scorer that is on fire that time that cover both inside and outside shooting. I believe Bucks can’t beat the Dallas without Lillard pestering them aside from Giannis unstoppable offense since Doncic can always cover the score being made by Giannis if they are just the only two toe to toe on scoring. This is why Kyrie Irving plays an important role before on Mavs success since he is the one helping Doncic to create some space and score when needed.

Yeah for some reason Dallas totally fell apart after that great 1st quarter.
Milwaukee finished the 2nd on a 15:0 run and also had a 14:0 run in the 3rd, you can't show yourself in front of your home crowd like that.
Dallas never got Gianni under control, he could score at will so it seemed. Maxi Kleber is a decent defender in my opinion but against the greek freak he looked like a child that is playing with the big boys.
Still it was surprising that Dallas took such a big lead in the first place. They are still without Kyrie, that's a lot of points they are missing from him. Sure others step up but it's hard to replace him, especially against teams that have many offensive weapons. With Dallas it's easy to predict what's happening. It's Luka shootings, Luka drives or Luka makes the pass to an open shooter, that's pretty much it. With Kyrie they would have double this action.

This game between the Dallas Mavericks and the Bucks was funny, in the first period the Mavericks managed to win by a big difference in points, something like 24 points difference. When you see a team scoring 44 points in the first period and the opponent only managing to score 20 points, then anyone can think that the team that scored 44 points will be able to win the game with some ease. but what we saw in the second period was very shocking, the bucks scored 40 points, they improved a lot in performance compared to the first period, and the most shocking part is that the mavericks only scored just 21 points, they dropped a lot in performance compared to In the second period, I don't understand what the hell happened to them that in the first period they managed to score 44 points and in the second period they dropped a lot in performance to the point of only being able to score 21 points

In the third period I thought the Mavericks were going to improve a lot, but the ones who maintained the improvement in the second period were the Bucks who managed to keep the momentum going by winning and scoring 33 points. in other words, the bucks didn't have much of a drop in performance since they managed to recover in the second period, they also did well in the third period and in the fourth period and again managed to score a lot of points, which showed that something out of the ordinary must have happened in the First period they didn't perform well, but then they managed to recover and won the game with an advantage of 12 points. NBA is a surprising league

Lakers managed to win, in my opinion they had an acceptable performance, in the first period they managed to win by 2 points, in the second period they lost by a difference of 2 points, in the third period they lost again by a difference of 6 points, but in the In the fourth period they managed to win by a difference of 14 points and thanks to that they managed to win the game, which is why I consider that they had an acceptable performance. It wasn't a crushing victory, but what matters is that they won

Zach will miss all the remaining games of the season. This means all strong teams that want more reinforcements this season won't accept him anymore. The Lakers are the favored team to get him but they will surely reject a Zach trade at this point. Maybe some teams that are rebuilding are willing to accept but the problem is Zach's commitment. Zach said before that he wants to join a good team so it means not a rebuilding team.


Philly is really different without their main man. The team is offensively used to the presence of Embiid. The Lakers stopped the New York Knicks at home. Randle and Anunoby were both missing and it cost them their win streak. But the Lakers were shooting with high efficiency even if the Knicks had 20 more attempts.

The Sixers did well in the last quarter. But it was not enough to win against the Brooklyn Nets. And even though they definitely did not give up till the end, it did look like a loss for them from a pretty early time before the matches actually had ended.

Lakers went big against Knicks. Especially in the final quarter of the match. They really made a comeback in my opinion. Because the match could have gone either way. And the Knicks were actually in the lead in that match. The Lakers performed really well in the last quarter. But I can't say that was unexpected as well. The Lakers had a very good overall performance from the team.

I didn't notice his defense. I think he isn't really known as a good defender. People sees his good 3 point shooting, and there are times in the past playoffs before he got injured seriously, that he was the reason why they were able to come back and win the series. There's a name "GAME 6 KLAY", and it's dedicated for him because he sometimes act like a cheat mode on his game and shots with a high level of accuracy, now, we haven't seen that anymore.

In short, Klay's performance has now declined, hence his value will follow. He will not be traded since he will become a free agent after this season, after that, we will know if the Warriors are still interested in keeping him but most likely they'll not waste money for him, unless he'll bargain and would receive a lower salary.

Klay these days really is a gamble.
Only in 1 or 2 of 5 games he does actually perform, the rest he looks just awful.
And he actually wonders why the Warriors don't want to pay him what he is hoping for. Still I think they won't trade him, unless somebody makes a good offer including draft picks but if he doesn't accept considerably less money he will go into free agency and play somewhere else next season.
With performances like this it's also hard to make yourself interesting for other teams. Klay is not know for leadership or mentorship, just for shooting and to be a 3-and-D player. Since the 3 is not falling and he is getting slow on D, what is making him a target for other teams now?

They are totally dismantled and we can see that they are not really clicking together since their core aside for Curry is not contributing anymore. Maybe there's a problem on their teams since they can't convert their games to more better just like what happen before. Kerr need to do a lot of adjustment and maybe he should check his system since its not working anymore. Small ball line up has been expose already so major adjustment is needed and they need to get reliable big man to help them out on defense also in rebounding. For trading Klay maybe its time to do that since maybe they can get more better fresh young talents to develop and to get better team performance. I also think they should trade Green so that they can erase out the toxicity on the team and they could possibly play more better basketball. I know those two guys is huge contributor for their team, but big adjustment is needed so that Warriors could survive for more long years and possibly compete on playoffs.

That hurt the Warriors. However, despite his 60 points performance, a lot of speculators aren't happy with it because he aren't sharing the ball well.

Curry had 38 attempts overall and made 23 of those. He is hot with 60% shooting percentage, but I understand why some are frustrated, maybe if he were able to win that game, his many attempts wouldn't matter. Klay Thompson was just lost in the picture, I think this guy should also be traded. IMO, he was already given enough time to get back to his old self but he is not the same anymore. 4-19 shooting? That's too bad, if he could have improve a bit, maybe they were able to win the game.

There is a tracker, for those who wants to follow, https://www.nba.com/news/2023-24-nba-trade-tracker

Although there are a lot of NBA analyst and insider in Twitter that can get a scoop faster than the NBA itself, like the following,

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania
https://twitter.com/wojespn

Yeah, still too early but I think there could be 1 or 2 big moves, might involved Lakers or even the Warriors as they are noises from this team lately.

Meanwhile, Steph Curry scores 60 points and yet they've lost to the Atlanta Hawks. Kuminga's streak of 20+ points or more in the last 7-8 games has ended. Klay Thompson has 10 points (ouch).

Too much hype for the Bulls when they acquire DeRozan and Vucevic a couple of years ago, and we thought that DeRozan+Lavine could be the best duo, just like what we have seen in Tatum and Smart in Boston. But it seems this two doesn't have the chemistry and now Lavine's injury and his name going around the trading blocks seems to be the last straw for the Bulls this season as they are so inconsistent.

I agree with @stadus, they are inconsistent that it's hard to bet on them. Against the Raptors they are leading the game, and then they choke and collapse on the 4th quarter and they lost by almost double digit. A game that they could have won as they work hard in the first 3 quarters only to falter in the 4th with poor defense and can't score any.

I was wrong to bet on the Bulls,  this team are not serious anymore or if they are they are very much underamanned. From now on I will skip betting on this team. Last night they were -1.5 vs the Kings who played back to back games and they were dominated early, although they slowly came back, and able to trim the lead to 3 pionts only but they ran out of gas in the end, still a loss, that's 2 consecutive losses at home for them.

I'm hoping they'll have a good season next, and they'll be able to trade Lavine for a more consistent and healthier player.

This will be in the books as long as he is still active.

Victor Oladipo Is The Biggest Loser Of Free Agency After Rejecting $112M From Pacers And $45.2M From Rockets Only To Sign A Veteran's Minimum Deal This Offseason

Yeah, probably Rui Hachimura if the Grizzlies would accept. But I don't think the Lakers will trade D'Lo anymore because of his recent great performances especially when AD or James are not around due to injuries.
Speaking of the Lakers, never in my imagination that they would be the ones who will end the winning streak of the New York Knicks. I mean, that should be considered without Randle and OG Anunoby but still, the Knicks are strong when they are playing at home and they have a long winning streak for a good reason.
Anyway, that's a good steal from the Lakers and I think beating the Knicks will boost their confidence, especially for their bench. Austin Reaves was special tonight. 22 points as he took advantage of the smaller defender Brunson.

Yeah, I'm sorry bro.
It was great when they acquired Caruso as their defense climbed up. But that injury of Lonzo Ball ruined it all big time and worse it's like the whole chemistry of the team was broken without their point.
Expect them to make big adjustments next year and I think LaVine is already feeling that he will be on another team next season.
If I am the Bulls management, I'll keep DeRozan, Vucevic, Caruso, and White. Use White to lead the 2nd team and then add more bench players that would surround White with better players, and energetic types.

Well there goes the Chicago Bulls chances of moving on from Zach Lavine and starting our rebuild.  Out for the rest of the season is a blow period, but it's no secret both parties want to go their own way...now, that's taken a major hit for this year and next.  The injury alone will cost us big time when we try and trade him next year. I was even seeing ideas of trading for Lebron floating around.. Sucks to be a bulls fan!!

Everybody is expecting the Lakers to make a move before the trade deadline, but it seems like they don't need... or aren't they? I mean the trade deadline is until Feb. 8, 2024, so who knows? We might see a bunch of trades happening in the final days of the trade deadline. I agree with what you said though. It is a boring trade year.

As for Rockets - Grizzlies, I don't see anybody winning on this one because TBH, both of them are injury-prone. Oladipo has been injury-prone ever since, and Adams has been as well. In terms of efficiency, Adams is better than Oladipo, but that doesn't matter if you are injured. Every team wants Steven Adams. He's very humble, and a huge inside defender, but who needs a player that's injured? Looking at the Grizzlies' roster right now, they have the most number of injured players and added Adams to the list as well. It's good that they got Adams back. Now I will wait for next season for the Grizzlies to redeem themselves. I mean they have the capabilities to be at the playoffs. It's just that INJURIES ruined it all, unfortunately.

The question is which players will the Lakers give if they are interested in Smart?
For sure, the Grizzlies don't want D'Lo because they have guards already who can fulfill that role. Rui maybe if they are interested. I will not be surprised if Smart will be traded, but many are still waiting on the move of the Lakers this time.