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legendary
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December 19, 2023, 03:09:21 PM
Many here are talking about the Warriors and other teams, but no one is talking about how the Clippers are playing right now.
Why is that?

I mean they just won against one of the best offensive teams right now in the league Indiana Pacers, and they're currently on an 8 game winning streak. They have a record of 13-2 in their last 15 games, and right now, they are in the top 5 in terms of defense, and offense which is quite rare nowadays. Everybody is talking about Harden and his acquisition, but aside from that, there are 3 reasons that I think the Clippers are playing better right now.
That's the trouble with the team, you can say screw the load management, but if they keep this up and get injured right at playoffs then they will be a terrible team yet again. Clippers have been doing terrible not because they are a bad team, but they are a team that gets injured all the time.

They did manage to get Harden, and that's a good deal without a doubt, he is not that commonly injured, which means that they will have at least one great player, westbrook has been terrible for a while and I do not see him helping the team all that much when I watch the games, he is fine, but he hasn't improved from his terrible Lakers period neither. Only thing that can make them good or not, will be Kawhi and PG13 staying healthy, which I doubt very much.
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December 19, 2023, 02:43:07 PM
James Harden’s monster game yesterday showed what the Clippers could be capable of when they’re playing at their best. Paul George didn’t have his most efficient night but hands down this was the biggest game for the new Clippers squad. I don’t think anyone has ever seen Kawhi so happy. A big difference from a few weeks ago.
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December 19, 2023, 10:57:35 AM
1 more game and then Ja Morant will be back. Memphis Grizzlies is on their 4th losing streak and their record is bad at 6 wins and 18 losses.
Will Ja Morant be the answer to go back as a playoff contender?
Grizzlies will need a big contribution from him because they have been lacking in everything and they are undermanned.
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“In the end, I feel like it made me better,” Morant said. ”I feel like I learned some stuff about myself that I did during that process. Very eye-opening. It kind of gave me a new look on life. How I go about my days. How I carry myself.”


There are doubts about the sincerity of his statements, but only time will tell if Morant has matured and realized his mistakes. In the meantime, I wouldn't rule out the possibility that he may repeat such stupid actions.
In any case, it will be interesting to watch his performance because such a long disqualification could affect him mentally and in terms of skills. Personally, I expect that Morant may need some time to adapt and get into the right rhythm.
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December 19, 2023, 10:35:47 AM

BTW, we have the Warriors hosting the Celtics tomorrow, I'm guessing, Warriors will lose.  Grin

I don't have to think on what team to bet as I like the Celtics on this. The Warriors are in a win streak, back at home hosting the hottest team now in the East, so I would back on the better team there. The Warriors will now be tested if they can still win against a strong team despite missing Draymond Green, so I guess it's no brainer than the Celtics will win.

If you are betting, the spread now is -5.5 for the Cetlics, quite high on the road but this Celtics team is capable of bringing a double digit win.
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December 19, 2023, 10:20:49 AM
The Los Angeles Lakers are having difficulties in the wake of winning the In-Season tournament. They just won one of their last four matches. What made it bad was that the single win they had was when they played the Spurs the weakest team in their conference and they also lost the following day they met again.

This team needs to concentrate again. Attaining the IST championship is great but there is a more important trophy for them to take and it is the most challenging this season. Darvin Ham has a job to do and he better quit making excuses on the travel and fatigue because all NBA teams are likewise experiencing the same thing.

Yeah, it's really hard to understand what is the predicament of the Lakers right now, in the IST they played very good to even become the champion. But after that, they seems to have lost that energy in that series and they are very inconsistent now.

They've lost to the Knicks, and it's the usual Lakers, first two quarters they don't play hard and then allowing the Knicks to have a good lead. And then they try to make a comeback  that mostly works against them as they need to have that energy and of course the time is not on their side.
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December 19, 2023, 10:14:30 AM
The Los Angeles Lakers are having difficulties in the wake of winning the In-Season tournament. They just won one of their last four matches. What made it bad was that the single win they had was when they played the Spurs the weakest team in their conference and they also lost the following day they met again.

This team needs to concentrate again. Attaining the IST championship is great but there is a more important trophy for them to take and it is the most challenging this season. Darvin Ham has a job to do and he better quit making excuses on the travel and fatigue because all NBA teams are likewise experiencing the same thing.

They'll get over it, it might take time but the Lakers are a legit team so expect that they will come back with a win streak. Most of their losses are close ones, they should make the right adjustment on their succeeding games and I trust Lebron and AD to make it happen.

Next game on the road against the Bulls, this is a tough opponent as the Bulls just recently beat the Sixers, so it's a good challenge for the Lakers here, if they win that means they have adjusted already.

BTW, we have the Warriors hosting the Celtics tomorrow, I'm guessing, Warriors will lose.  Grin
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December 19, 2023, 09:45:45 AM
The Los Angeles Lakers are having difficulties in the wake of winning the In-Season tournament. They just won one of their last four matches. What made it bad was that the single win they had was when they played the Spurs the weakest team in their conference and they also lost the following day they met again.

This team needs to concentrate again. Attaining the IST championship is great but there is a more important trophy for them to take and it is the most challenging this season. Darvin Ham has a job to do and he better quit making excuses on the travel and fatigue because all NBA teams are likewise experiencing the same thing.
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December 19, 2023, 09:16:06 AM

I guess they can make to the playoffs they are having a good run now so there's high possibilities that Clipper could sustain this since they have 4 star in their team which can totally dominate the floor.

That's what they are showing now, a domination. Beating the pacers by 24 points is a strong statement since Pacers played in the in season tournament, so they are considered as a good team. Also, before they struggle with scoring, now, they reach 151 points, that shows how the offense are flowing very well.

This game, they shoot 50% or 19 of 38 beyond the arc, imagine if they maintain that consistency, they'll be hard to beat since they the big 3 can also attack the paint, especially Leonard with his consistent mid range.

Leonard, 28
PG 27
Harden 35. 

These numbers aren't achieve before.



To see their big 3 to score like that, it would easily result to a win because there's a balance scoring. I've never seen the Clippers as strong as this, it's just right that they put Westbrook in the 2nd quarter as he wasn't as accurate as this 3 in terms of shooting, and since Westbrook loves to hassle, he should preserve that energy well, so with limited minutes, he would be effective that way.

Westbrook played 17 minutes only, but he made 10 points from 4-6 shooting, that's quite high for him since his FG% per average is way lower than that.

Actually both teams are shooting over 50% overall, it's just that the Clippers got 50% beyond the arc, which is a big difference.

They seemed to find the right combination already, and that 8 win streak proved it. Leonard has to be consistent here as I don't trust Harden and Paul George to carry this team, not because they don't have the talent but because they haven't won a championship yet. So if the Clippers wants to win, they should main Leonard as their alpha player, the play should be focus on him most of the time and Harden and PG are just their to assist him all the time.

Thus far, on the 8 win streak they have, I believe Leonard is their top scorers based on average.

Against NYK 36
Against GSW 27
Against Kings 31
Against Blazers 34
Against Utah 41
Against Denver 17
Against GSW 20
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December 19, 2023, 08:56:47 AM

I guess they can make to the playoffs they are having a good run now so there's high possibilities that Clipper could sustain this since they have 4 star in their team which can totally dominate the floor.

That's what they are showing now, a domination. Beating the pacers by 24 points is a strong statement since Pacers played in the in season tournament, so they are considered as a good team. Also, before they struggle with scoring, now, they reach 151 points, that shows how the offense are flowing very well.

This game, they shoot 50% or 19 of 38 beyond the arc, imagine if they maintain that consistency, they'll be hard to beat since they the big 3 can also attack the paint, especially Leonard with his consistent mid range.

Leonard, 28
PG 27
Harden 35. 

These numbers aren't achieve before.



To see their big 3 to score like that, it would easily result to a win because there's a balance scoring. I've never seen the Clippers as strong as this, it's just right that they put Westbrook in the 2nd quarter as he wasn't as accurate as this 3 in terms of shooting, and since Westbrook loves to hassle, he should preserve that energy well, so with limited minutes, he would be effective that way.

Westbrook played 17 minutes only, but he made 10 points from 4-6 shooting, that's quite high for him since his FG% per average is way lower than that.

Actually both teams are shooting over 50% overall, it's just that the Clippers got 50% beyond the arc, which is a big difference.
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December 19, 2023, 08:44:20 AM
^^ I think the media hates James Harden. Remember the video circulating online that telling James Harden is the problem and not the System.
Big win for the Clippers last game! 8 game win streak. These 4 All stars hopefully help and lead the team to their first championship. Great game for Harden, taking over the 4th quarter in just a few minutes. They've been up big already and I love their mentality now. I'm noticing their style with a barrage of offense from the 1st to the 3rd until Kawhi doesn't need to return in the 4th. Harden usually takes over as well as Powell and PG. Only injury will ruin again this momentum.

I really want to see them progress well and they might gonna get more wins after this because they are on fire and that won't be any problem for them right now their chemistry is high also they will gonna make it harder for their opponent to stop them at this rate. it only took them a few games to adjust and they managed to nail it well by observing what they were missing. I'm sure they are now a strong playoff team that will be considered a problem in the Western Conference.
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December 19, 2023, 08:19:23 AM

I guess they can make to the playoffs they are having a good run now so there's high possibilities that Clipper could sustain this since they have 4 star in their team which can totally dominate the floor.

That's what they are showing now, a domination. Beating the pacers by 24 points is a strong statement since Pacers played in the in season tournament, so they are considered as a good team. Also, before they struggle with scoring, now, they reach 151 points, that shows how the offense are flowing very well.

This game, they shoot 50% or 19 of 38 beyond the arc, imagine if they maintain that consistency, they'll be hard to beat since they the big 3 can also attack the paint, especially Leonard with his consistent mid range.

Leonard, 28
PG 27
Harden 35. 

These numbers aren't achieve before.

legendary
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December 19, 2023, 07:59:55 AM
^^ I think the media hates James Harden. Remember the video circulating online that telling James Harden is the problem and not the System.
Big win for the Clippers last game! 8 game win streak. These 4 All stars hopefully help and lead the team to their first championship. Great game for Harden, taking over the 4th quarter in just a few minutes. They've been up big already and I love their mentality now. I'm noticing their style with a barrage of offense from the 1st to the 3rd until Kawhi doesn't need to return in the 4th. Harden usually takes over as well as Powell and PG. Only injury will ruin again this momentum.

Media are just trying to sell a story, if it's negative, a lot of people will be interested on it specially that they were really struggling when the Clippers acquired him through trade. But that was just before, IIRC, I think Harden said that wait until they figure how things. So this is it, they had already figured out how to win and I think they will be unstoppable now.

This win streak is going to a positive side, they won't struggle anymore, unless one of the star players will be injured, God forbid.

And now, looking at the standing, they are already in the safe ranking as they ranked number 6 in the West.
https://ph.global.nba.com/standings/

If they will maintain at least that ranking, they already already assured of a playoff spot.


Harden is controversial player so it will be good for them to create some stories regarding his possible struggles when in Clippers since fans would provably read it since this is interesting development to be heard.

But since he adopt now in the system and now they already see the result of what they are trying to do then we can see Clippers as a monster team right now. Their adjustment really work for them and their cooperation especially with Westbrook side really paid off.

I guess they can make to the playoffs they are having a good run now so there's high possibilities that Clipper could sustain this since they have 4 star in their team which can totally dominate the floor.
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December 19, 2023, 07:53:23 AM
^^ I think the media hates James Harden. Remember the video circulating online that telling James Harden is the problem and not the System.
Big win for the Clippers last game! 8 game win streak. These 4 All stars hopefully help and lead the team to their first championship. Great game for Harden, taking over the 4th quarter in just a few minutes. They've been up big already and I love their mentality now. I'm noticing their style with a barrage of offense from the 1st to the 3rd until Kawhi doesn't need to return in the 4th. Harden usually takes over as well as Powell and PG. Only injury will ruin again this momentum.

That's already a given fact, majority here could be hating James Harden as he is so arrogant and he thinks that he is something special. But we all have to think that they are loaded as well. A healthy Kawhi and PG might be enough for the Clippers to win big. And as long as they are healthy, the Clippers with Harden can go on the playoffs. But it's just a question on whether they can sustain this run. So we will see, good for their fans now, winning their last 8, but their next games is not going to be that easy for them. Celtics is on a 5 game winning streak, Bucks 4. Pels is also on a 4 game winning streak, Kings and Wolves 3 game apiece.

As long as they are all healthy, they have that winning chance to any team that they will be facing, I guess they already adjusted and they
are all doing great job to keep that winning streak.

The rotation and the way they are sharing the ball it's more on trusting each other, they just need to continue and keep that trust, one game at a time.

Let see if they will be able to duplicate that good performance and keep that winning attitude alive to add more with their winning streak.
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December 19, 2023, 07:32:06 AM
Many here are talking about the Warriors and other teams, but no one is talking about how the Clippers are playing right now.
Why is that?

I mean they just won against one of the best offensive teams right now in the league Indiana Pacers, and they're currently on an 8 game winning streak. They have a record of 13-2 in their last 15 games, and right now, they are in the top 5 in terms of defense, and offense which is quite rare nowadays. Everybody is talking about Harden and his acquisition, but aside from that, there are 3 reasons that I think the Clippers are playing better right now.

1. Westbrook's adjustment from being a starter to now a bench player. For me, this is the main reason why they're playing better now. 2 ball handlers can't be playing together at the same time, and it's a good thing that he adjusted for the betterment of the team. Now he's mentoring those young players, and he's willing to adjust if that means winning the title... or will they? Cheesy
2. Kawhi and PG are more healthy than they are. F*ck the load management. Now they're playing better already. Kawhi didn't miss any game while PG missed only 1 game. Now look where they are right now. They're better, and I just hope that either one of them will not get injured when the playoff comes.
3. Harden is back to his old self. I believe Harden is starting to come back to his old self already. Not the Harden when he's in the Rockets where he's a scorer, but the Harden we used to see when he was at Brooklyn, and Philly. The passer-type Harden and this is a good thing for the Clippers.

The chemistry is starting to build up already, and we've seen it in their past games. The only question right now is will they sustain this type of performance until the end of the season? If they will play like this all throughout the whole season, I believe they will be at the top 4 at least. Smiley
I'm following their games. I think you are missing out on Norman Powell. He's providing a lot of support offensively while coming of the bench and averaging 15 points in their last eight games. He's not much of an assist guy but he's giving the other teams more to think about.

This team is stacked.
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December 19, 2023, 07:12:39 AM
^^ I think the media hates James Harden. Remember the video circulating online that telling James Harden is the problem and not the System.
Big win for the Clippers last game! 8 game win streak. These 4 All stars hopefully help and lead the team to their first championship. Great game for Harden, taking over the 4th quarter in just a few minutes. They've been up big already and I love their mentality now. I'm noticing their style with a barrage of offense from the 1st to the 3rd until Kawhi doesn't need to return in the 4th. Harden usually takes over as well as Powell and PG. Only injury will ruin again this momentum.

Media are just trying to sell a story, if it's negative, a lot of people will be interested on it specially that they were really struggling when the Clippers acquired him through trade. But that was just before, IIRC, I think Harden said that wait until they figure how things. So this is it, they had already figured out how to win and I think they will be unstoppable now.

This win streak is going to a positive side, they won't struggle anymore, unless one of the star players will be injured, God forbid.

And now, looking at the standing, they are already in the safe ranking as they ranked number 6 in the West.
https://ph.global.nba.com/standings/

If they will maintain at least that ranking, they already already assured of a playoff spot.
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December 19, 2023, 07:11:50 AM
^^ I think the media hates James Harden. Remember the video circulating online that telling James Harden is the problem and not the System.
Big win for the Clippers last game! 8 game win streak. These 4 All stars hopefully help and lead the team to their first championship. Great game for Harden, taking over the 4th quarter in just a few minutes. They've been up big already and I love their mentality now. I'm noticing their style with a barrage of offense from the 1st to the 3rd until Kawhi doesn't need to return in the 4th. Harden usually takes over as well as Powell and PG. Only injury will ruin again this momentum.

That's already a given fact, majority here could be hating James Harden as he is so arrogant and he thinks that he is something special. But we all have to think that they are loaded as well. A healthy Kawhi and PG might be enough for the Clippers to win big. And as long as they are healthy, the Clippers with Harden can go on the playoffs. But it's just a question on whether they can sustain this run. So we will see, good for their fans now, winning their last 8, but their next games is not going to be that easy for them. Celtics is on a 5 game winning streak, Bucks 4. Pels is also on a 4 game winning streak, Kings and Wolves 3 game apiece.
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December 19, 2023, 06:59:46 AM
^^ I think the media hates James Harden. Remember the video circulating online that telling James Harden is the problem and not the System.
Big win for the Clippers last game! 8 game win streak. These 4 All stars hopefully help and lead the team to their first championship. Great game for Harden, taking over the 4th quarter in just a few minutes. They've been up big already and I love their mentality now. I'm noticing their style with a barrage of offense from the 1st to the 3rd until Kawhi doesn't need to return in the 4th. Harden usually takes over as well as Powell and PG. Only injury will ruin again this momentum.
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December 19, 2023, 05:38:41 AM
Many here are talking about the Warriors and other teams, but no one is talking about how the Clippers are playing right now.
Why is that?

More likely there are more teams that deserve more attention? Or recently we have the Green situation and then Ja Morant coming back.

And probably there are less likely fans of Clippers here? They are still in the 6th position, tied with the Mavericks.

But I do agree with your observations, they are started to blend it, but we wanted them to test Mavericks and then OKC next and then Boston. But that will be great game and if they continue their winning streak and beating them with huge offensive weapons, then maybe we can have discussions how good are the Clippers.
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December 19, 2023, 04:35:11 AM
The Boston Celtics are the first team to reach 20 wins this season by successfully and easily beating Orlando Magic and this will be a message for them and a chance to improve their play because there will be a higher chance that they could meet up in the NBA playoffs and the same scenario could happen unless they find a way to stop Tatum and Brown offense. Just like that, we are now a few months away from NBA all-stars week, and after that, the real game begins for the playoff teams.

Celtics beat Magic back to back. Magic was one of the thoughest teams in the East but Celtics show them they are not at same level. I see only Sixers as a competition for Celtics.
As for All-Stars, Tatum and Brown will definitely be in there, but I think Porzingis also should be in the discussion. His stats are pretty good lately.

Yes, so far celtics and Sixers the teams that are showing some great consistency, but don't count the Bucks yes, especially the Miami Heat as they were the team that made suprises last playoffs. With Jimmy Butler's being healthy, they are still a big threat even if they will not end up with a good standing, remember they were the defending ECF champions.

Honestly I'm impressed with the sixers.  Joel embid is indefensible right now.  They need consistency from their other players but he is playing with a chip on his shoulder right now.  I think the sixers are way better without Harden on the team with them.  That was definitely addition by subtraction.

Yeah, but him not playing today is a big factor to their lost. I thought that the rest of the team can win without him, but obviously, even at home, the team performed bad. So the Sixers, can't really rely on the team with Joel, sad to say.

So with that, I think the Celtics is more complete team though. And they have the best duo right now, in Tatum and Brown. And the acquistion of Porzingis and then Holiday was really very impactful for them as they are the first team to win 20 games, beating another great team in Orlando Magic.
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December 19, 2023, 02:54:25 AM
Many here are talking about the Warriors and other teams, but no one is talking about how the Clippers are playing right now.
Why is that?

I mean they just won against one of the best offensive teams right now in the league Indiana Pacers, and they're currently on an 8 game winning streak. They have a record of 13-2 in their last 15 games, and right now, they are in the top 5 in terms of defense, and offense which is quite rare nowadays. Everybody is talking about Harden and his acquisition, but aside from that, there are 3 reasons that I think the Clippers are playing better right now.

1. Westbrook's adjustment from being a starter to now a bench player. For me, this is the main reason why they're playing better now. 2 ball handlers can't be playing together at the same time, and it's a good thing that he adjusted for the betterment of the team. Now he's mentoring those young players, and he's willing to adjust if that means winning the title... or will they? Cheesy
2. Kawhi and PG are more healthy than they are. F*ck the load management. Now they're playing better already. Kawhi didn't miss any game while PG missed only 1 game. Now look where they are right now. They're better, and I just hope that either one of them will not get injured when the playoff comes.
3. Harden is back to his old self. I believe Harden is starting to come back to his old self already. Not the Harden when he's in the Rockets where he's a scorer, but the Harden we used to see when he was at Brooklyn, and Philly. The passer-type Harden and this is a good thing for the Clippers.

The chemistry is starting to build up already, and we've seen it in their past games. The only question right now is will they sustain this type of performance until the end of the season? If they will play like this all throughout the whole season, I believe they will be at the top 4 at least. Smiley
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