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Let's enjoy now that he's still playing and as much as possible, stop the criticisms against him. Not a Lebron fan since I also criticized him in the past for his flops, but I realized it's only a matter of time before he retires, and we might not see another player the same level as Lebron.

We probably never will, longevity and consistency are two mutually exclusive traits that we don't find in athletes of this generation, they either can't stay healthy for long or they're not consistent enough to remain relevant after half a decade.

We have seen plenty of players with much better peak than Lebron to be fair, hell I would say someone as low on my list as Westbrook had a better peak than Lebron if you ask me, Lebron was always great, but Westbrook averaged three seasons of triple double averages. I am not saying I would take westbrook peak over lebrons peak, but it looked better on paper. The funny part is that we have seen players like Shaq, who was basically unstopabble, to end up having short peaks as well.

Lebron is a great player that is true, but not only he is great, but also nobody had a better period than him for this long. Being great for 20 years, and at 40 years old still being able to do triple doubles is crazy, he has the best longevity ever. I do wonder how long he plans to play too by the way. I mean he has one more son, Bryce, do we think he would wait for him to join as well? That would be a few more seasons I guess, so not sure if he will want to, but if we are talking about if he "could"? Then he definitely could if he wants to.

I don’t know man. When LeBron went to Miami, gained 40lbs, and started shooting 60% from the field he was pretty difficult to deal with. I’d put that Miami LeBron up against anybody. I’d say he had 2 primes even, because his first couple years in the league when he was skinny and quick, he was also one of the best to ever do it.

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Quote from: Harkorede on November 17, 2024, 07:31:07 AM

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Let's enjoy now that he's still playing and as much as possible, stop the criticisms against him. Not a Lebron fan since I also criticized him in the past for his flops, but I realized it's only a matter of time before he retires, and we might not see another player the same level as Lebron.

We probably never will, longevity and consistency are two mutually exclusive traits that we don't find in athletes of this generation, they either can't stay healthy for long or they're not consistent enough to remain relevant after half a decade.

We have seen plenty of players with much better peak than Lebron to be fair, hell I would say someone as low on my list as Westbrook had a better peak than Lebron if you ask me, Lebron was always great, but Westbrook averaged three seasons of triple double averages. I am not saying I would take westbrook peak over lebrons peak, but it looked better on paper. The funny part is that we have seen players like Shaq, who was basically unstopabble, to end up having short peaks as well.

Lebron is a great player that is true, but not only he is great, but also nobody had a better period than him for this long. Being great for 20 years, and at 40 years old still being able to do triple doubles is crazy, he has the best longevity ever. I do wonder how long he plans to play too by the way. I mean he has one more son, Bryce, do we think he would wait for him to join as well? That would be a few more seasons I guess, so not sure if he will want to, but if we are talking about if he "could"? Then he definitely could if he wants to.

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Honestly, Klay did what was best for him and Warriors did what was best for them. Dallas definitely benefits from having Klay on the team, Luka and Kyrie are ball handlers so they need some shooter running around, I am sure that Klay will end up getting a lot of shots that will be open wide for him when defenses collapse towards other two. Warriors didn't had that, they didn't had this many great players, now they have a few more good ones, Klay was getting every other attention that wasn't towards Curry, he was seen second and that was getting more to him, being third is a lot better for him. Hopefully, with this move, Dallas will do a bit better too, Warriors obviously are doing a lot better currently.

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So he was heard saying, "You better stay here", referring to Klay leaving the Warriors to join the Dallas Mavericks.

I guess we all know Klay Thompson really wanted to stay with the Warriors, but the efforts wasn’t the same from both parties, and the ego was the enemy in the other camp, there was definitely no way for all parties to have reached an agreement if they all wanted better outcome, the Warriors are actually better now, maybe it’s still all too early but if you consider the kind of rebuild they’ve partially got going, letting Klay go is the best decision for them, and Klay also leaving with his head held high is also a good enough for him, the disrespect with regards to performance would have probably increased this season if he had stayed put or the Warriors would remain in denial of the need for change.

This does makes sense, Klay has became one of the faces of the Warriors but then, it's true about the efforts that the management only sees them move on with Steph and not with the Splash bros.

I have watched those highlights of Curry passing to no one because he's used to pass it that way to Klay for a shooter.

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Quote from: dezoel on November 16, 2024, 03:26:52 PM

I am not even kidding, I didn't expected Lebron to be this good after his son was sent to g-league. And Bronny isn't even lighting it up at gleague neither, he looks like just a regular player there, he hasn't shown any promise at all.

I expected Lakers to keep Bronny even though he would be bad, not like teams don't have any bad players, being 12th on the roster means that you do not get to play that many games, and not that many minutes, most of the time you get zero minutes, only if there is garbage time with 20+ point difference and all, then you get some time.

Bronny could have been there, no matter how bad he is, because at that point the talent level doesn't really matter, and not like he is some 35 year old fat dude, kid is still a basketball player. So, I expected Lebron to be playing a lot worse after that Bronny to g-league situation happened but he seems to be not phased at all and we should definitely consider him to end up with a much bigger deal. He is still playing like the old days and at 40 years old that seems like impossible for almost anyone except him, look at the history of NBA, nobody played this great 40 years old, and dude is doing triple doubles in a row.

We know how determined LeBron James is to work as well as how talented he is. I think he must have had a meeting with the managers about his son leaving the team and supported them. After all, he can see how good his own son is. Instead of staying as the 12th man on this team, he may have wanted him to improve himself and return to the NBA in the coming years and maybe take over his heir. I respect him a lot in this regard, he is really old but he still continues to play as one of the best players in the NBA

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Quote from: danherbias07 on November 17, 2024, 07:50:54 AM

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Moving forward, there's nothing that you can do if the outcome turned against you that kind of situation is uncontrollable by bettors but can be manipulated by the refs.

Yeah, nothing I can do. It's better to move on and just have better results next time. I am more sad for those who put a lot of money into the Warriors with a handicap. They must be devastated at what the referees did.

I agree to that, as there are many bettors who believes with Warriors capabilities to cover that handicap but again the refs help the opposite side and create that situation where they managed to change the outtcome of the game, better to focus with the next game to bet since nothing can be change as we both mentioned.

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De'Aaron Fox. Damn, his an offensive machine!
After a career-high 60 points game against the Minnesota Timberwolves (although they lost), he now made a 49-point game against the Utah Jazz and paired with a win. 16-40 field goals, 3/4 at the three-point line. Truly a monster.
The Utah Jazz did not give it easy for them, they made them work hard before they could claim the win. 14 lead changes, if I remember it right and everything goes down to the offensive powers of both teams at the near end of the regulation. This is big for the Kings, they played back to back games and came from a loss, so it will boost the confidence of the whole team.

Yeah Fox doing an amazing job carrying their offensive attacks, he really can provide when the team needed him though it was a good game for the Jazz unfortunately they unable to handle it till the final minutes, as Kings managed to snatch the game from them.

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About Bronny James, I'm afraid I can only say that he is too below NBA level. He is just privileged thanks to his father LeBron. I know LeBron is like he owns Lakers now. But this shouldn't cause him to act unfair for his team like this as well. Normally none of NBA teams would like to draft Bronny. That's the truth. Just because his father has a big name in the sports, he is playing for Lakers. Sad

He should just play in the G League to improve. I would like to see what he will do there. Maybe it would be for his own benefit in the long run. Let's say he doesn't get better then there is nothing to do...

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Quote from: Harkorede on November 17, 2024, 07:31:07 AM

We probably never will, longevity and consistency are two mutually exclusive traits that we don't find in athletes of this generation, they either can't stay healthy for long or they're not consistent enough to remain relevant after half a decade.

For real men. You can add also that most of new athletes have personality issue including like Ja Morant keep doing stupid things on personal life, Zion eating habits and many more which is not the norm for a star player that usually disciplined with their body to last long and perform well.

This is why Lebron is a phenomenal athlete since he is good to balance his life and career to become consistent.

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Giannis with a triple double but still not enough to get the Bucks a win against Charlotte Hornets, when exactly does the Bucks need to press that panic button ? or is it still too early into the season to panic ??

Bucks is already done after they toss key players that supposedly the one who will help Giannis.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 16, 2024, 12:35:14 PM

Moving forward, there's nothing that you can do if the outcome turned against you that kind of situation is uncontrollable by bettors but can be manipulated by the refs.

Yeah, nothing I can do. It's better to move on and just have better results next time. I am more sad for those who put a lot of money into the Warriors with a handicap. They must be devastated at what the referees did.

De'Aaron Fox. Damn, his an offensive machine!
After a career-high 60 points game against the Minnesota Timberwolves (although they lost), he now made a 49-point game against the Utah Jazz and paired with a win. 16-40 field goals, 3/4 at the three-point line. Truly a monster.
The Utah Jazz did not give it easy for them, they made them work hard before they could claim the win. 14 lead changes, if I remember it right and everything goes down to the offensive powers of both teams at the near end of the regulation. This is big for the Kings, they played back to back games and came from a loss, so it will boost the confidence of the whole team.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 17, 2024, 05:40:23 AM

Let's enjoy now that he's still playing and as much as possible, stop the criticisms against him. Not a Lebron fan since I also criticized him in the past for his flops, but I realized it's only a matter of time before he retires, and we might not see another player the same level as Lebron.

We probably never will, longevity and consistency are two mutually exclusive traits that we don't find in athletes of this generation, they either can't stay healthy for long or they're not consistent enough to remain relevant after half a decade.

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Giannis with a triple double but still not enough to get the Bucks a win against Charlotte Hornets, when exactly does the Bucks need to press that panic button ? or is it still too early into the season to panic ??

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I am not even kidding, I didn't expected Lebron to be this good after his son was sent to g-league. And Bronny isn't even lighting it up at gleague neither, he looks like just a regular player there, he hasn't shown any promise at all.
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Lebron plays day in day out like he's not even 30 yet, and his level of consistency is really impeccable to say the least, If he's able to stay healthy and AD keeps riding like he's done to start this season, then maybe they do have shot to go very deep into the post season.

For Bronny it's going to take a number of years for him to get to top speed, that's if he ever gets there and truth be told the moment his fathers walks out of the NBA, if Bronny's still yet to find his feet, then he's pretty fucked.

Well, this is the reason why for most NBA Fans, they see Lebron as their GOAT rather than MJ, and TBH, they might be true especially now that he's playing still at high level despite being 39 years old. I mean most 39-year-old NBA players would've most of the time be benched or they might retire already after reaching that age, but not for him. On the flip side, I also saw a Facebook post with regards to him saying that he might just play 1 or 2 seasons more at most, and after that, it's time for him.

Let's enjoy now that he's still playing and as much as possible, stop the criticisms against him. Not a Lebron fan since I also criticized him in the past for his flops, but I realized it's only a matter of time before he retires, and we might not see another player the same level as Lebron.

As for Bronny, this is what happens when you entered the league without any skill at all and what you only have is your "FATHER". I believe many will agree with me if I say that he doesn't deserve to be in either the NBA or even the G-League. I don't also think that he will ever be the same as his father, and I don't think he needs to be as well. He knows himself that he can't be like his father.

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Quote from: Harkorede on November 16, 2024, 09:53:29 PM

Quote from: dezoel on November 16, 2024, 03:26:52 PM

I am not even kidding, I didn't expected Lebron to be this good after his son was sent to g-league. And Bronny isn't even lighting it up at gleague neither, he looks like just a regular player there, he hasn't shown any promise at all.

I expected Lakers to keep Bronny even though he would be bad, not like teams don't have any bad players, being 12th on the roster means that you do not get to play that many games, and not that many minutes, most of the time you get zero minutes, only if there is garbage time with 20+ point difference and all, then you get some time.

Bronny could have been there, no matter how bad he is, because at that point the talent level doesn't really matter, and not like he is some 35 year old fat dude, kid is still a basketball player. So, I expected Lebron to be playing a lot worse after that Bronny to g-league situation happened but he seems to be not phased at all and we should definitely consider him to end up with a much bigger deal. He is still playing like the old days and at 40 years old that seems like impossible for almost anyone except him, look at the history of NBA, nobody played this great 40 years old, and dude is doing triple doubles in a row.

Lebron plays day in day out like he's not even 30 yet, and his level of consistency is really impeccable to say the least, If he's able to stay healthy and AD keeps riding like he's done to start this season, then maybe they do have shot to go very deep into the post season.

For Bronny it's going to take a number of years for him to get to top speed, that's if he ever gets there and truth be told the moment his fathers walks out of the NBA, if Bronny's still yet to find his feet, then he's pretty fucked.

It's seems like LeBron being the 3rd option is really clicking for the Lakers. If AD win the MVP this year, there will be a chance that the Lakers will compete in the 2025 NBA finals. They looked like they become a more competitive team this season that the last couple of seasons. If the whole team becomes more consistent in their shooting percentage, LeBron could easily make 10+ assist per game. Noticed how LeBron paved a way for his teammates to do the scoring and then take over when he needs to step up, especially in crunch time.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 17, 2024, 01:04:24 AM

Quote from: Harkorede on November 16, 2024, 09:53:29 PM

Lebron plays day in day out like he's not even 30 yet, and his level of consistency is really impeccable to say the least, If he's able to stay healthy and AD keeps riding like he's done to start this season, then maybe they do have shot to go very deep into the post season.

For Bronny it's going to take a number of years for him to get to top speed, that's if he ever gets there and truth be told the moment his fathers walks out of the NBA, if Bronny's still yet to find his feet, then he's pretty fucked.

I honestly doubt that Bronny ever will be ready. He has way too big shoes to fill and this will follow/haunt him forever. Maybe he doesn't even want to play basketball on a professional level, we don't know that. He was born into it and basically had no other choice than follow his dad. Same with MJ and we all know how his sons performed when they were in college.
Maybe Bronny has a different passion like film, fashion or whatever. Until LBJ is out of the league he will never be "free" . Let's see, maybe I am also super wrong and basketball is his life, who knows. Just saying I don't get the right vibe from him somehow.

Its hard to be in his situation sine there's always lots of expectation in his shoulders. Also I think he cannot meet the expectation of people and that's the reason on why Fans follow his father would provably hate him for that reason. If LBJ just didn't push to make Bronny go to NBA this early maybe Bronny could develop his skill on lower leagues. But guess greed for certain legacy want to be hit comes up with them that's why the Bronny carry out the consequences since many people expect him to perform the same as his father.

What's good about MJ is he didn't influence anyone to force he's child to go to NBA. He just let them perform and maybe when he see that his sons is not for NBA then he didn't pursue them, now they live a peaceful life and out of harsh criticism related to basketball thing. Until LBJ is there Bronny will remain a shadow of his father, also we might gonna see him Bronny to last long in NBA if there's no improvement will happen for this young man.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 17, 2024, 01:04:24 AM

Quote from: Harkorede on November 16, 2024, 09:53:29 PM

Lebron plays day in day out like he's not even 30 yet, and his level of consistency is really impeccable to say the least, If he's able to stay healthy and AD keeps riding like he's done to start this season, then maybe they do have shot to go very deep into the post season.

For Bronny it's going to take a number of years for him to get to top speed, that's if he ever gets there and truth be told the moment his fathers walks out of the NBA, if Bronny's still yet to find his feet, then he's pretty fucked.

I honestly doubt that Bronny ever will be ready. He has way too big shoes to fill and this will follow/haunt him forever. Maybe he doesn't even want to play basketball on a professional level, we don't know that. He was born into it and basically had no other choice than follow his dad. Same with MJ and we all know how his sons performed when they were in college.
Maybe Bronny has a different passion like film, fashion or whatever. Until LBJ is out of the league he will never be "free" . Let's see, maybe I am also super wrong and basketball is his life, who knows. Just saying I don't get the right vibe from him somehow.

I couldn't agree more, he's already got all eyes on him and there is threshold of standard that everyone is looking to hold him, while that might be the biggest problem, I think stepping into the rather unprepared than less prepared is what is getting him burned this much, if it were to be some other kid, there sure would have been some consensus that he's no way near ready to be in the league, Bronny only reminds so well of Scotty Pippen Jr. who's doing really with the Grizzlies now after some years of being under the radar, while Pippen Jr. came him with better performances than Bronny having played in the college for several years, he still went undrafted, it took some heavy injuries to Grizzlies last season for him to get some decent minutes, and the injuries following the team to season helped get him from a two-way to a standard NBA contract, right now I can't see a better path for Bronny, honestly.

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Quote from: Harkorede on November 16, 2024, 09:53:29 PM

Lebron plays day in day out like he's not even 30 yet, and his level of consistency is really impeccable to say the least, If he's able to stay healthy and AD keeps riding like he's done to start this season, then maybe they do have shot to go very deep into the post season.

For Bronny it's going to take a number of years for him to get to top speed, that's if he ever gets there and truth be told the moment his fathers walks out of the NBA, if Bronny's still yet to find his feet, then he's pretty fucked.

I honestly doubt that Bronny ever will be ready. He has way too big shoes to fill and this will follow/haunt him forever. Maybe he doesn't even want to play basketball on a professional level, we don't know that. He was born into it and basically had no other choice than follow his dad. Same with MJ and we all know how his sons performed when they were in college.
Maybe Bronny has a different passion like film, fashion or whatever. Until LBJ is out of the league he will never be "free" . Let's see, maybe I am also super wrong and basketball is his life, who knows. Just saying I don't get the right vibe from him somehow.

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Quote from: dezoel on November 16, 2024, 03:26:52 PM

I am not even kidding, I didn't expected Lebron to be this good after his son was sent to g-league. And Bronny isn't even lighting it up at gleague neither, he looks like just a regular player there, he hasn't shown any promise at all.

I expected Lakers to keep Bronny even though he would be bad, not like teams don't have any bad players, being 12th on the roster means that you do not get to play that many games, and not that many minutes, most of the time you get zero minutes, only if there is garbage time with 20+ point difference and all, then you get some time.

Bronny could have been there, no matter how bad he is, because at that point the talent level doesn't really matter, and not like he is some 35 year old fat dude, kid is still a basketball player. So, I expected Lebron to be playing a lot worse after that Bronny to g-league situation happened but he seems to be not phased at all and we should definitely consider him to end up with a much bigger deal. He is still playing like the old days and at 40 years old that seems like impossible for almost anyone except him, look at the history of NBA, nobody played this great 40 years old, and dude is doing triple doubles in a row.

Lebron plays day in day out like he's not even 30 yet, and his level of consistency is really impeccable to say the least, If he's able to stay healthy and AD keeps riding like he's done to start this season, then maybe they do have shot to go very deep into the post season.

For Bronny it's going to take a number of years for him to get to top speed, that's if he ever gets there and truth be told the moment his fathers walks out of the NBA, if Bronny's still yet to find his feet, then he's pretty fucked.

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I am not even kidding, I didn't expected Lebron to be this good after his son was sent to g-league. And Bronny isn't even lighting it up at gleague neither, he looks like just a regular player there, he hasn't shown any promise at all.

I expected Lakers to keep Bronny even though he would be bad, not like teams don't have any bad players, being 12th on the roster means that you do not get to play that many games, and not that many minutes, most of the time you get zero minutes, only if there is garbage time with 20+ point difference and all, then you get some time.

Bronny could have been there, no matter how bad he is, because at that point the talent level doesn't really matter, and not like he is some 35 year old fat dude, kid is still a basketball player. So, I expected Lebron to be playing a lot worse after that Bronny to g-league situation happened but he seems to be not phased at all and we should definitely consider him to end up with a much bigger deal. He is still playing like the old days and at 40 years old that seems like impossible for almost anyone except him, look at the history of NBA, nobody played this great 40 years old, and dude is doing triple doubles in a row.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 16, 2024, 09:32:16 AM

So he was heard saying, "You better stay here", referring to Klay leaving the Warriors to join the Dallas Mavericks.

I guess we all know Klay Thompson really wanted to stay with the Warriors, but the efforts wasn’t the same from both parties, and the ego was the enemy in the other camp, there was definitely no way for all parties to have reached an agreement if they all wanted better outcome, the Warriors are actually better now, maybe it’s still all too early but if you consider the kind of rebuild they’ve partially got going, letting Klay go is the best decision for them, and Klay also leaving with his head held high is also a good enough for him, the disrespect with regards to performance would have probably increased this season if he had stayed put or the Warriors would remain in denial of the need for change.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on November 16, 2024, 08:23:09 AM

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And so GSW won again, this time against Morant less Memphis.

The passing though of the Warriors and then their second unit closing the Memphis, Draymond 3 point percentage is improving this season. I think he had like 3 three's in this game. All players how have been fielded in this game has scored at least 2 points. So that is bench scoring at it's finest.

They won but it went crazy at the end of that regulation. Coach Steve Kerr was not happy with the last calls of the referees and it made him go after them and shout at them also pointing out some of the bad calls.
I understand him but maybe I was also biased because I have a bet of -10.5 for the Warriors. The thing is, they have a lead of 11 points with just a minute remaining in the game which means they are going to win it regardless. But the referees seem to have a different point of view of what should happen. The lead suddenly went down to five with crazy technical fouls and bad calls and even the Grizzlies found some hope to win the match and put in their best players while Steve Kerr already rested his stars.
It almost felt like the referee had some bet on going which could be the reason for doing all that. But it's just a theory, nothing to prove it.

Wow, something that the outcome for handicap was been helped by the refs, not new though as there are games that being rigged by those bad calls from the refs, though not being proven still, but there are officials who already been suspended and removed becuse of those kinds of rumors.

Moving forward, there's nothing that you can do if the outcome turned against you that kind of situation is uncontrollable by bettors but can be manipulated by the refs.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on November 16, 2024, 08:23:09 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on November 16, 2024, 04:27:21 AM

And so GSW won again, this time against Morant less Memphis.

The passing though of the Warriors and then their second unit closing the Memphis, Draymond 3 point percentage is improving this season. I think he had like 3 three's in this game. All players how have been fielded in this game has scored at least 2 points. So that is bench scoring at it's finest.

They won but it went crazy at the end of that regulation. Coach Steve Kerr was not happy with the last calls of the referees and it made him go after them and shout at them also pointing out some of the bad calls.
I understand him but maybe I was also biased because I have a bet of -10.5 for the Warriors. The thing is, they have a lead of 11 points with just a minute remaining in the game which means they are going to win it regardless. But the referees seem to have a different point of view of what should happen. The lead suddenly went down to five with crazy technical fouls and bad calls and even the Grizzlies found some hope to win the match and put in their best players while Steve Kerr already rested his stars.
It almost felt like the referee had some bet on going which could be the reason for doing all that. But it's just a theory, nothing to prove it.

Speaking of the Warriors though, some of us are interested to hear what Steph was saying after he hits that dagger 3 against Lively. As we all know of, it was Klay's first game coming back to Chase Center as a Maverick and we have seen tributes and standing ovation.

So he was heard saying, "You better stay here", referring to Klay leaving the Warriors to join the Dallas Mavericks.

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