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Brian Windhorst came out and said that no other teams outside of Miami have come forward to seriously make a trade offer for Damian Lillard. I’m not sure if it’s his contract, his age, or other teams are just trying to respect his wishes to end up in Miami, but it’s starting to look like Lillard might be a Trailblazer next season. I’m not sure how good that will be for his reputation if he’s disgruntled after being labeled as the most loyal player in the NBA.

Maybe they are also afraid that Lillard will not play with them since he release a statement that he only want to play on Miami. So maybe from this many team avoid him since they might lose a vital piece on their roster and Lillard is not fully committed on their team. Don't know if this trade plan will proceed since Blazers and its fans doesn't like the trade offer given by Miami so most likely we can still see Lillard wearing a Blazers uniform next season.

The kind of statement he made is powerful enough to make other teams, which he didn't choose, try to prevent him from getting there. However, it doesn't help the NBA overall, as players now seem to dictate, rather than acting as professionals and playing according to their contracts. Lillard should not have said it publicly; the negotiations between his team should have been handled confidentially. Now, if the deal with the Miami Heat doesn't succeed, can the Blazers still expect Lillard to give his best next season?

It is speculated that Lillard might not suit up with Portland and could sit up the rest of the season if he is not traded? Not sure how true this is, but if yes then it will hurt the Blazers for sure and maybe Lillard will have hefty fines from the NBA itself.

So his career is on the balance right now, yes he wants to move out and maybe Portland might have realized that it's time for them to change course as well. And it seems that is the case because they have sign Jeremy Grant for a $160 million contract extension for 5 years.

Not maybe because I think Lillard will really face tough consequences because it sure looks to me that the NBA's warning was serious enough for them to make the things for real and we have the Portland itself who will give some fines as well, just like what Simmons had when he was having tantrums in the Brooklyn Nets. But in the end, it's the Portland's loss if in case they will be forced to resort in that kind of situation. So, what's left for them is to trade Lillard before the season commences before anything goes horribly wrong.

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I'm not sure if Miami will continue to try offering what they've got or like what you said, they will stay with Hero and try to develop
his skills for more competitive capabilities.

Future draft picks will be the biggest offering + Herro, it could be 5 or 6 but not sure if Heat is willing to give up that kind of huge players. So the only thing for us is to wait and see how everything will go down.

Pretty sure negotiations are ongoing and they are staying away from public exposure to avoid issues. IMO the Miami Heat should go all in on Lillard otherwise I have doubts about their ability to return to the finals or even in the eastern conference finals after giving up Max Strus and Gabe Vincent. They also let go of Victor Oladipo plus 2 future 2nd round draft picks to earn more cap space. The Miami Heat obviously lacked assets for direct trade with Portland, so they badly needed a team or even more to facilitate a Lillard trade.

They lose a valuable piece which contributes on their offense and defense like Vincent and now if they cannot get Lillard maybe your assumptions that they might struggle to reach in finals again might be right. But still if there cores still intact and Bam also Butler became healthy then we can add up the return of Tyler Herro still they have a chance to kick up for another finals run even if Lillard will not successfully acquired by Miami.

They will be able to acquire players that would replace Vincent. In my opinion, the Heat system is what makes them a great team, even though they lack superstars, they are still very competitive. Imagine what they achieved during the playoffs; they made history but were just unfortunate to fall short in the NBA Finals.

The Heat is still a playoff team. Acquiring Lillard will make them a championship team, so let's see how that negotiation will go as there's no news yet that the Heat has no more chance of acquiring Lillard.

The most talked trade this summer is still on the advantage of the Miami Heat. That being said, the trade about Lillard is now composed of a 4-team trade because the Portland insists that they don't want Tyler Herro on their roster, they just wanted a 4-5 future round picks, specifically first rounders. Hence why 4 teams are now involved in it.

A New Damian Lillard 4-Team Trade Where Everybody Wins

Portland Trail Blazers Receive: James Harden's expiring contract (can be flipped later), Kyle Lowry's expiring contract, Jaime Jacquez, Nikola Jović, a 2028 first-round pick from Miami, a 2030 first-round pick from Miami and a 2030 second-round pick from Chicago

Miami Heat Receive: Damian Lillard, Jusuf Nurkić, a 2029 second-round pick from Philadelphia and a 2028 second-round pick from Chicago

Philadelphia 76ers Receive: Zach LaVine, Tyler Herro and a 2029 second-round pick from Portland

Chicago Bulls Receive: Tobias Harris' expiring contract, Caleb Martin, Keon Johnson, a 2029 first-round pick swap with the 76ers and a 2030 first-round pick from Philadelphia
Source: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10084438-a-new-damian-lillard-4-team-trade-where-everybody-wins

What do you guys think about this?

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Quote from: OgNasty on August 03, 2023, 12:51:15 AM

Brian Windhorst came out and said that no other teams outside of Miami have come forward to seriously make a trade offer for Damian Lillard. I’m not sure if it’s his contract, his age, or other teams are just trying to respect his wishes to end up in Miami, but it’s starting to look like Lillard might be a Trailblazer next season. I’m not sure how good that will be for his reputation if he’s disgruntled after being labeled as the most loyal player in the NBA.

I think the fact that he warned everyone already that he will not attend any practice or whatever scrimmages is enough for other teams to just move out, and will not pursue Dame. I guess that's how powerful Dame is right now, and well he deserves it like what other players are doing because he just played his best season last year in terms of stats.

Now with regards to this one, it seems like there are only 2 options for Lillard right now. Either he will stay with the Trail Blazers, and suffer probably the same fate again that he might not clinch to the playoffs again, or he will get traded to Miami. I guess the Heat must do everything just to have this trade to push through. They've given undrafted players already that have a huge impact towards their success last season, and at the same time they have all the assets that they can give to the Blazers. Of course the Blazers don't want to lose on this trade knowing that they will give their must-be franchise player.

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I'm not sure if Miami will continue to try offering what they've got or like what you said, they will stay with Hero and try to develop
his skills for more competitive capabilities.

Future draft picks will be the biggest offering + Herro, it could be 5 or 6 but not sure if Heat is willing to give up that kind of huge players. So the only thing for us is to wait and see how everything will go down.

Pretty sure negotiations are ongoing and they are staying away from public exposure to avoid issues. IMO the Miami Heat should go all in on Lillard otherwise I have doubts about their ability to return to the finals or even in the eastern conference finals after giving up Max Strus and Gabe Vincent. They also let go of Victor Oladipo plus 2 future 2nd round draft picks to earn more cap space. The Miami Heat obviously lacked assets for direct trade with Portland, so they badly needed a team or even more to facilitate a Lillard trade.

They lose a valuable piece which contributes on their offense and defense like Vincent and now if they cannot get Lillard maybe your assumptions that they might struggle to reach in finals again might be right. But still if there cores still intact and Bam also Butler became healthy then we can add up the return of Tyler Herro still they have a chance to kick up for another finals run even if Lillard will not successfully acquired by Miami.

They will be able to acquire players that would replace Vincent. In my opinion, the Heat system is what makes them a great team, even though they lack superstars, they are still very competitive. Imagine what they achieved during the playoffs; they made history but were just unfortunate to fall short in the NBA Finals.

The Heat is still a playoff team. Acquiring Lillard will make them a championship team, so let's see how that negotiation will go as there's no news yet that the Heat has no more chance of acquiring Lillard.

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I'm not sure if Miami will continue to try offering what they've got or like what you said, they will stay with Hero and try to develop
his skills for more competitive capabilities.

Future draft picks will be the biggest offering + Herro, it could be 5 or 6 but not sure if Heat is willing to give up that kind of huge players. So the only thing for us is to wait and see how everything will go down.

Pretty sure negotiations are ongoing and they are staying away from public exposure to avoid issues. IMO the Miami Heat should go all in on Lillard otherwise I have doubts about their ability to return to the finals or even in the eastern conference finals after giving up Max Strus and Gabe Vincent. They also let go of Victor Oladipo plus 2 future 2nd round draft picks to earn more cap space. The Miami Heat obviously lacked assets for direct trade with Portland, so they badly needed a team or even more to facilitate a Lillard trade.

They lose a valuable piece which contributes on their offense and defense like Vincent and now if they cannot get Lillard maybe your assumptions that they might struggle to reach in finals again might be right. But still if there cores still intact and Bam also Butler became healthy then we can add up the return of Tyler Herro still they have a chance to kick up for another finals run even if Lillard will not successfully acquired by Miami.

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I'm not sure if Miami will continue to try offering what they've got or like what you said, they will stay with Hero and try to develop
his skills for more competitive capabilities.

Future draft picks will be the biggest offering + Herro, it could be 5 or 6 but not sure if Heat is willing to give up that kind of huge players. So the only thing for us is to wait and see how everything will go down.

Pretty sure negotiations are ongoing and they are staying away from public exposure to avoid issues. IMO the Miami Heat should go all in on Lillard otherwise I have doubts about their ability to return to the finals or even in the eastern conference finals after giving up Max Strus and Gabe Vincent. They also let go of Victor Oladipo plus 2 future 2nd round draft picks to earn more cap space. The Miami Heat obviously lacked assets for direct trade with Portland, so they badly needed a team or even more to facilitate a Lillard trade.

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In terms of which team would sign him, I'm sure they'll consider the implications and take measures to protect their investment. So, there's nothing to worry about on their side. I'm more concerned about Bronny being able to play in the NBA, as it has always been his father's dream to play with his son.

Well, hopefully what happen is not a hindrance to his goal in the NBA.

If that happen and Bronny can not play for the NBA then Lebron James would likely need to wait for his other son, we never know Bryce James could make an easy leap to the NBA but surely if that would not happen then Lebron will have to wait for Bryce James, but it will surely have a lot of pressure for Bryce james in making it to the NBA, well let's just wait for further information on what may happen,

We never know what's going to happen, but with LeBron James' popularity, it could be a big help for his son to get into the NBA. Although he is still at a competitive level, it would be nice to see his eldest son make it to the NBA. I would prefer not to discuss what happened a lot, as that would only hurt the fans who are eagerly waiting for that big moment to happen. It's ultimately up to the teams if they'll take a shot at drafting him. Certainly, the team that would draft him would gain attention to the fans because they have the son of Lebron which is one of the greatest.

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Lakers is considered to be a dark horse as well, if I'm not mistaken, of course some of the core is back but still, a ageing Lebron and then injury prone AD? Still not sure how far the Lakers can go in this season.

No matter what happens to them in the Lakers this season, they have already done their job and won the championship because that's just all that it matters when you are with the Superteam trying to be a contender in the NBA league. It will be more amazing when they can get back to the NBA playoffs this season because they easily made a great run last season and also beat the defending champion easily. The worse thing they did was signed Westbrook despite having multiple stars that can help them with the championship again last season.

But some fans are saying that what they did was not enough because the last time they won the championship was in the middle of Covid pandemic where they had in-house games with a lot of rules to prevent Covid-19 from entering the league, moreover, at that time, NBA was still at an experimenting phase and not all players did play just like the usual season. Anyway, people have been divided when it comes to the topic, but yes, a win is a win and nobody can take that from them.

There is still in doubts about what the Lakers achieved, but a title is still a title and even it's a pandemic setup, the players are still
playing at the best that they can.

Though it's still better to see Lakers with LeBron to win another title, and with how they are forming the team right now.

There's always chances for anything and who knows AD will play healthy this coming season, still early to conclude if what
will be the fate if they will perform and have that chance to win a title.

Talking about Anthony Davis, did you guys saw his recent transformation this summer?
In a video that I saw earlier this day in Facebook, AD was looking thin and thankfully they explained why afterwards about his current form because it was said and confirmed by Rob Pelinka himself that AD will go back to his original role (PF) while Jaxson Hayes will be the Lakers new center. It seems to me that the Lakers are now going back to their old formation specifically the 19-20 season where they got a chip.

Wow I did not know that. A very fit AD can also mean he might be better to avoid injury, I hope. Last year at this time we were looking at Russell Westbrook, Pat Beverley, etc. and lamenting. Fortunately they recovered with in-season trades. For the playoffs (regardless of possible trades) they need a fully healthy lebron and davis, a more confident d'angelo russell, and the youth to build on and improve. I expect/hope this roster will finish the regular season in the top six (top four if possible) and advance to at least the next round depending on matchups. (My biggest concern is injury problems)

I think it's not going to be a big adjustment for AD if he goes to the PF position and let Hayes plays the center position and he is used to that and maybe that is the reason for also getting Hayes.

I'm not sure what the complete line up is for the Lakers though, because I think they still need one good backup for a Hayes to play center if he is going to sit down. As for AD, yeah maybe his trainer says that he needs to slim down a bit so that his body can take his weight and as least prevent injuries.

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In terms of which team would sign him, I'm sure they'll consider the implications and take measures to protect their investment. So, there's nothing to worry about on their side. I'm more concerned about Bronny being able to play in the NBA, as it has always been his father's dream to play with his son.

Well, hopefully what happen is not a hindrance to his goal in the NBA.

If that happen and Bronny can not play for the NBA then Lebron James would likely need to wait for his other son, we never know Bryce James could make an easy leap to the NBA but surely if that would not happen then Lebron will have to wait for Bryce James, but it will surely have a lot of pressure for Bryce james in making it to the NBA, well let's just wait for further information on what may happen,

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That's almost x2 of Tatum's contract, as per report, his projected salary next seasons is $32,600,060, way lower than what Brown would receive, but it should not change the chemistry of the team as the management could decide to give Tatum a big contract as well once he will renew, but of course, he has to give the expectation of the team management so they will give him a bigger contract.

For sure the Boston Celtics team already know what is happening is for sure they know aswell that Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown is deserving to have that kind of contract for having Tatum has the A1 and Brown as the A2 for the Celtics team, I just hope that these two would strive to get the championship they deserve, because back then I think that they really deserve the win but again it is the team that have the most desire to win that would proceed to the finals, and that was for them to keep improving,

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NBA news: NBA suspends Spurs' Devonte’ Graham for two games without pay
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NEW YORK – San Antonio Spurs guard Devonte’ Graham has been suspended for two games without pay for pleading guilty to a charge of impaired driving, in violation of the law of the State of North Carolina, the NBA announced today.

Graham’s suspension will commence with the next NBA regular season game that he is eligible and able to play.

Bad start. This will be the season he could redeem himself after playing just 20 games last year. Now, he will be gone for 2 games and it's not a good impression. The Spurs will badly need all the help they could get and win as much as they can to get back in the playoffs after missing it for 4 years.

That's just right, he violated a law, and the NBA does condemn that, so he was given a suspension. It's just 2 games, maybe not a good impression, but I believe he can redeem himself as last season he had decent statistics; it's just that he only played a few games. The Spurs are quite hyped for the next season as they landed the number 1 pick, Wemby. So it would be nice if they play with full force to have a good start. However, what happened already happened, and they just have to deal with that. Hopefully, he will learn from this experience.

He is just lucky that it was only 2 games suspension, and no one was hurt and hopefully he can learn from this mistakes. They are just about to have a good season with Wemby on their team so they should start something positive and not like this.

So hopefully, we can play after that 2 games suspension and then redeem himself and contribute to the team. He is averaging just a shades a above 11 points. Maybe this season, he is looking to up his average.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on August 03, 2023, 08:56:57 PM

NBA news: NBA suspends Spurs' Devonte’ Graham for two games without pay
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NEW YORK – San Antonio Spurs guard Devonte’ Graham has been suspended for two games without pay for pleading guilty to a charge of impaired driving, in violation of the law of the State of North Carolina, the NBA announced today.

Graham’s suspension will commence with the next NBA regular season game that he is eligible and able to play.

Bad start. This will be the season he could redeem himself after playing just 20 games last year. Now, he will be gone for 2 games and it's not a good impression. The Spurs will badly need all the help they could get and win as much as they can to get back in the playoffs after missing it for 4 years.

That's just right, he violated a law, and the NBA does condemn that, so he was given a suspension. It's just 2 games, maybe not a good impression, but I believe he can redeem himself as last season he had decent statistics; it's just that he only played a few games. The Spurs are quite hyped for the next season as they landed the number 1 pick, Wemby. So it would be nice if they play with full force to have a good start. However, what happened already happened, and they just have to deal with that. Hopefully, he will learn from this experience.

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The kind of statement he made is powerful enough to make other teams, which he didn't choose, try to prevent him from getting there. However, it doesn't help the NBA overall, as players now seem to dictate, rather than acting as professionals and playing according to their contracts. Lillard should not have said it publicly; the negotiations between his team should have been handled confidentially. Now, if the deal with the Miami Heat doesn't succeed, can the Blazers still expect Lillard to give his best next season?

Most likely they will lose investors and some advertisement because, with this kind of scenario, I'm sure companies will not risk signing them another contract because there will be no assurance of competition in their team to reach even the NBA playoffs next season and surely they will gonna be busy working on trading him in another team if the current deal will not success. However, if he gonna speak some convincing words that he will gonna do the best he can to help their team to get back to the NBA playoffs like he was doing before, then it will be a positive story that won't gonna cut their possible earnings this upcoming season.

Expect him traded before the All-Star if it won't happen now. Cheesy

That is right they are going to lose something here which is why the NBA management already stepped in. They know something bad is going to happen if players will be the ones deciding for themselves and not teams who are to recruit them with the thought of making their roster stronger. But when a player starts to pick, it will mean he won't be playing at his hardest when another team recruits him. Privately, it must be done away from the public, they still have a choice but it doesn't mean Twitter will become their diary. Grin

NBA news: NBA suspends Spurs' Devonte’ Graham for two games without pay
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NEW YORK – San Antonio Spurs guard Devonte’ Graham has been suspended for two games without pay for pleading guilty to a charge of impaired driving, in violation of the law of the State of North Carolina, the NBA announced today.

Graham’s suspension will commence with the next NBA regular season game that he is eligible and able to play.

Bad start. This will be the season he could redeem himself after playing just 20 games last year. Now, he will be gone for 2 games and it's not a good impression. The Spurs will badly need all the help they could get and win as much as they can to get back in the playoffs after missing it for 4 years.

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Lakers is considered to be a dark horse as well, if I'm not mistaken, of course some of the core is back but still, a ageing Lebron and then injury prone AD? Still not sure how far the Lakers can go in this season.

No matter what happens to them in the Lakers this season, they have already done their job and won the championship because that's just all that it matters when you are with the Superteam trying to be a contender in the NBA league. It will be more amazing when they can get back to the NBA playoffs this season because they easily made a great run last season and also beat the defending champion easily. The worse thing they did was signed Westbrook despite having multiple stars that can help them with the championship again last season.

But some fans are saying that what they did was not enough because the last time they won the championship was in the middle of Covid pandemic where they had in-house games with a lot of rules to prevent Covid-19 from entering the league, moreover, at that time, NBA was still at an experimenting phase and not all players did play just like the usual season. Anyway, people have been divided when it comes to the topic, but yes, a win is a win and nobody can take that from them.

There is still in doubts about what the Lakers achieved, but a title is still a title and even it's a pandemic setup, the players are still
playing at the best that they can.

Though it's still better to see Lakers with LeBron to win another title, and with how they are forming the team right now.

There's always chances for anything and who knows AD will play healthy this coming season, still early to conclude if what
will be the fate if they will perform and have that chance to win a title.

Talking about Anthony Davis, did you guys saw his recent transformation this summer?
In a video that I saw earlier this day in Facebook, AD was looking thin and thankfully they explained why afterwards about his current form because it was said and confirmed by Rob Pelinka himself that AD will go back to his original role (PF) while Jaxson Hayes will be the Lakers new center. It seems to me that the Lakers are now going back to their old formation specifically the 19-20 season where they got a chip.

Wow I did not know that. A very fit AD can also mean he might be better to avoid injury, I hope. Last year at this time we were looking at Russell Westbrook, Pat Beverley, etc. and lamenting. Fortunately they recovered with in-season trades. For the playoffs (regardless of possible trades) they need a fully healthy lebron and davis, a more confident d'angelo russell, and the youth to build on and improve. I expect/hope this roster will finish the regular season in the top six (top four if possible) and advance to at least the next round depending on matchups. (My biggest concern is injury problems)

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It would not be wise to keep Dame, but it would be unwise to trade him for nothing as well. Portland wants to just rebuild, and for that to happen they need a lot of picks, picks that Miami can't give because they do not end up with bad results, certainly won't with Dame as well.

There needs to be a third team, and Miami has to find someone who would be willing to give a good pick in exchange for someone. That way, whatever Heat have as picks, and whatever the third team has for picks would go to Blazers, Dame would go to Miami, but who would go to that third team? Well there aren't really that many players Miami have that worth high picks, this is why this trade hasn't been made so far and that's causing a little trouble.

I mean Portland can certainly keep him it's not like he is going to sit out. Be worth a mint come the trade deadline in February for a fringe title contender. Can flush more picks out mid year than up front. I can see Dame staying put for the beginning of the season.

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Brian Windhorst came out and said that no other teams outside of Miami have come forward to seriously make a trade offer for Damian Lillard. I’m not sure if it’s his contract, his age, or other teams are just trying to respect his wishes to end up in Miami, but it’s starting to look like Lillard might be a Trailblazer next season. I’m not sure how good that will be for his reputation if he’s disgruntled after being labeled as the most loyal player in the NBA.

Maybe they are also afraid that Lillard will not play with them since he release a statement that he only want to play on Miami. So maybe from this many team avoid him since they might lose a vital piece on their roster and Lillard is not fully committed on their team. Don't know if this trade plan will proceed since Blazers and its fans doesn't like the trade offer given by Miami so most likely we can still see Lillard wearing a Blazers uniform next season.

The kind of statement he made is powerful enough to make other teams, which he didn't choose, try to prevent him from getting there. However, it doesn't help the NBA overall, as players now seem to dictate, rather than acting as professionals and playing according to their contracts. Lillard should not have said it publicly; the negotiations between his team should have been handled confidentially. Now, if the deal with the Miami Heat doesn't succeed, can the Blazers still expect Lillard to give his best next season?

It is speculated that Lillard might not suit up with Portland and could sit up the rest of the season if he is not traded? Not sure how true this is, but if yes then it will hurt the Blazers for sure and maybe Lillard will have hefty fines from the NBA itself.

So his career is on the balance right now, yes he wants to move out and maybe Portland might have realized that it's time for them to change course as well. And it seems that is the case because they have sign Jeremy Grant for a $160 million contract extension for 5 years.

I'm not sure if I remember it right. Ben Simmons did it last time. He chooses not to play and lost those money as Philly sanction him with lots of fine from his contract.

Maybe it can be a same deal with Lilard in case he's serious not to play if the trade will not take place,
he might lose a lot of money. It's his decision though whether he will keep his words and really not
to wear Blazers uniform if there's no trade that takes place.

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It would not be wise to keep Dame, but it would be unwise to trade him for nothing as well. Portland wants to just rebuild, and for that to happen they need a lot of picks, picks that Miami can't give because they do not end up with bad results, certainly won't with Dame as well.

There needs to be a third team, and Miami has to find someone who would be willing to give a good pick in exchange for someone. That way, whatever Heat have as picks, and whatever the third team has for picks would go to Blazers, Dame would go to Miami, but who would go to that third team? Well there aren't really that many players Miami have that worth high picks, this is why this trade hasn't been made so far and that's causing a little trouble.

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Lakers is considered to be a dark horse as well, if I'm not mistaken, of course some of the core is back but still, a ageing Lebron and then injury prone AD? Still not sure how far the Lakers can go in this season.

No matter what happens to them in the Lakers this season, they have already done their job and won the championship because that's just all that it matters when you are with the Superteam trying to be a contender in the NBA league. It will be more amazing when they can get back to the NBA playoffs this season because they easily made a great run last season and also beat the defending champion easily. The worse thing they did was signed Westbrook despite having multiple stars that can help them with the championship again last season.

But some fans are saying that what they did was not enough because the last time they won the championship was in the middle of Covid pandemic where they had in-house games with a lot of rules to prevent Covid-19 from entering the league, moreover, at that time, NBA was still at an experimenting phase and not all players did play just like the usual season. Anyway, people have been divided when it comes to the topic, but yes, a win is a win and nobody can take that from them.

There is still in doubts about what the Lakers achieved, but a title is still a title and even it's a pandemic setup, the players are still
playing at the best that they can.

Though it's still better to see Lakers with LeBron to win another title, and with how they are forming the team right now.

There's always chances for anything and who knows AD will play healthy this coming season, still early to conclude if what
will be the fate if they will perform and have that chance to win a title.

Talking about Anthony Davis, did you guys saw his recent transformation this summer?
In a video that I saw earlier this day in Facebook, AD was looking thin and thankfully they explained why afterwards about his current form because it was said and confirmed by Rob Pelinka himself that AD will go back to his original role (PF) while Jaxson Hayes will be the Lakers new center. It seems to me that the Lakers are now going back to their old formation specifically the 19-20 season where they got a chip.

It's quite interesting enough because we know that AD is much more dominant and more agile being a power forward but Jaxson Hayes as a replacement in the center? The kid clearly lacks the experience to protect the rim and I don't know if that will be the right move. So far, Rob Pelinka was getting his picks right recently and so does his choices for the team, so I'm inclined to see what will the Lakers do in the upcoming season with their new additional, Hayes.

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Brian Windhorst came out and said that no other teams outside of Miami have come forward to seriously make a trade offer for Damian Lillard. I’m not sure if it’s his contract, his age, or other teams are just trying to respect his wishes to end up in Miami, but it’s starting to look like Lillard might be a Trailblazer next season. I’m not sure how good that will be for his reputation if he’s disgruntled after being labeled as the most loyal player in the NBA.

Maybe they are also afraid that Lillard will not play with them since he release a statement that he only want to play on Miami. So maybe from this many team avoid him since they might lose a vital piece on their roster and Lillard is not fully committed on their team. Don't know if this trade plan will proceed since Blazers and its fans doesn't like the trade offer given by Miami so most likely we can still see Lillard wearing a Blazers uniform next season.

The kind of statement he made is powerful enough to make other teams, which he didn't choose, try to prevent him from getting there. However, it doesn't help the NBA overall, as players now seem to dictate, rather than acting as professionals and playing according to their contracts. Lillard should not have said it publicly; the negotiations between his team should have been handled confidentially. Now, if the deal with the Miami Heat doesn't succeed, can the Blazers still expect Lillard to give his best next season?

It is speculated that Lillard might not suit up with Portland and could sit up the rest of the season if he is not traded? Not sure how true this is, but if yes then it will hurt the Blazers for sure and maybe Lillard will have hefty fines from the NBA itself.

So his career is on the balance right now, yes he wants to move out and maybe Portland might have realized that it's time for them to change course as well. And it seems that is the case because they have sign Jeremy Grant for a $160 million contract extension for 5 years.

Sanitough,

Of course, the other teams are not going to try to get him on the team. Because of course the one not going to try to get a player who has already expressed his feelings to play for another team. Doesn’t matter how the trade comes along, it is not in the best interest of a team. But NBA is currently changing. The players are realizing that they have a lot more to actually dictate on what’s going on. The players can also dictate the terms. And that is obviously not good for the NBA. Just envision a scenario where a player is contractually bound but actually not giving a fuck about that, actively attempting to join another team. This is going to be a huge problem if any actions are not taken to be honest.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on August 01, 2023, 06:47:00 AM

Lakers is considered to be a dark horse as well, if I'm not mistaken, of course some of the core is back but still, a ageing Lebron and then injury prone AD? Still not sure how far the Lakers can go in this season.

No matter what happens to them in the Lakers this season, they have already done their job and won the championship because that's just all that it matters when you are with the Superteam trying to be a contender in the NBA league. It will be more amazing when they can get back to the NBA playoffs this season because they easily made a great run last season and also beat the defending champion easily. The worse thing they did was signed Westbrook despite having multiple stars that can help them with the championship again last season.

But some fans are saying that what they did was not enough because the last time they won the championship was in the middle of Covid pandemic where they had in-house games with a lot of rules to prevent Covid-19 from entering the league, moreover, at that time, NBA was still at an experimenting phase and not all players did play just like the usual season. Anyway, people have been divided when it comes to the topic, but yes, a win is a win and nobody can take that from them.

There is still in doubts about what the Lakers achieved, but a title is still a title and even it's a pandemic setup, the players are still
playing at the best that they can.

Though it's still better to see Lakers with LeBron to win another title, and with how they are forming the team right now.

There's always chances for anything and who knows AD will play healthy this coming season, still early to conclude if what
will be the fate if they will perform and have that chance to win a title.

Talking about Anthony Davis, did you guys saw his recent transformation this summer?
In a video that I saw earlier this day in Facebook, AD was looking thin and thankfully they explained why afterwards about his current form because it was said and confirmed by Rob Pelinka himself that AD will go back to his original role (PF) while Jaxson Hayes will be the Lakers new center. It seems to me that the Lakers are now going back to their old formation specifically the 19-20 season where they got a chip.

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Brian Windhorst came out and said that no other teams outside of Miami have come forward to seriously make a trade offer for Damian Lillard. I’m not sure if it’s his contract, his age, or other teams are just trying to respect his wishes to end up in Miami, but it’s starting to look like Lillard might be a Trailblazer next season. I’m not sure how good that will be for his reputation if he’s disgruntled after being labeled as the most loyal player in the NBA.

Maybe they are also afraid that Lillard will not play with them since he release a statement that he only want to play on Miami. So maybe from this many team avoid him since they might lose a vital piece on their roster and Lillard is not fully committed on their team. Don't know if this trade plan will proceed since Blazers and its fans doesn't like the trade offer given by Miami so most likely we can still see Lillard wearing a Blazers uniform next season.

The kind of statement he made is powerful enough to make other teams, which he didn't choose, try to prevent him from getting there. However, it doesn't help the NBA overall, as players now seem to dictate, rather than acting as professionals and playing according to their contracts. Lillard should not have said it publicly; the negotiations between his team should have been handled confidentially. Now, if the deal with the Miami Heat doesn't succeed, can the Blazers still expect Lillard to give his best next season?

It is speculated that Lillard might not suit up with Portland and could sit up the rest of the season if he is not traded? Not sure how true this is, but if yes then it will hurt the Blazers for sure and maybe Lillard will have hefty fines from the NBA itself.

So his career is on the balance right now, yes he wants to move out and maybe Portland might have realized that it's time for them to change course as well. And it seems that is the case because they have sign Jeremy Grant for a $160 million contract extension for 5 years.

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