Author

Topic: 2019 NBA Pre-Season - page 465. (Read 903575 times)

donator
Activity: 4760
Merit: 4323
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
July 31, 2023, 11:41:59 AM
The Dallas Mavericks are a mess. Now they’re targeting Clint Capela to be their center… I’m not sure what Mark Cuban is doing over there. It seems like maybe he’s lost touch with his team with all the other stuff he’s doing. The one good thing they had was Luka, and I think the Kyrie trade not only decimated their team’s roster but it may have also destroyed Luka’s career.
sr. member
Activity: 1554
Merit: 413
July 31, 2023, 11:13:19 AM
[
Lot of time ahead for the start of the season, but in your head, wich team do you thing its gonna be a contender and wich team its gonna be a tanker in the bottom of the table?

We can say surely San Antonio comes back again to be a contender after a few long years being a tank team.
For me, too early to say "surely San Antonio comes back again" just because they got Wemby. Who knows if he can compete against the experienced players of different teams or not? For instance, Embiid, Jokic, and Giannis are more experienced and have a bigger bodies. Tbh, I don't expect the same performance from him like Lebron had in his rookie season. He needs another consistent scorer by his side to get the Spurs out of the bottom.
Keldon Johnson and Devin Vassell were Spurs leading scorers last season. They're still young and could probably compliment Wemby's energy.
I don't think they will instantly become a new force next season with the addition of a promising talent but I'm hoping coach Pop brings in Tim to develop that young center.
legendary
Activity: 2058
Merit: 1015
July 31, 2023, 10:34:08 AM
[
Lot of time ahead for the start of the season, but in your head, wich team do you thing its gonna be a contender and wich team its gonna be a tanker in the bottom of the table?

We can say surely San Antonio comes back again to be a contender after a few long years being a tank team.
For me, too early to say "surely San Antonio comes back again" just because they got Wemby. Who knows if he can compete against the experienced players of different teams or not? For instance, Embiid, Jokic, and Giannis are more experienced and have a bigger bodies. Tbh, I don't expect the same performance from him like Lebron had in his rookie season. He needs another consistent scorer by his side to get the Spurs out of the bottom.
legendary
Activity: 2184
Merit: 1024
Vave.com - Crypto Casino
July 31, 2023, 10:28:23 AM


I regret not having witnessed the documentary, hence my incapability to provide any commentary on if it is actually good or not. But I think every people in the world actually understand that to have a successful career even need to suffer first. Suffering actually gives life value. I know he is a good player, and I also have no doubt that he would have been a good player, regardless of him suffering or not in life. But he wouldn’t be able to become one of the worlds best if he had everything easy.
It's just a documentary because he won so many rings, not because he has a life worth watching. I mean he comes from a basketball family, even his brother is in the NBA and his father was as well, and his father was known for shooting too, so he basically showed them how to since they were very little. He worked hard on the road his father opened up, and things went well and he became a good player.

Sure he ended up being the greatest three pointer ever, but just because you achieved something, doesn't mean it would be entertaining to watch how. He worked hard, that's it, what are we gonna watch his training montage? What is this, rocky? I rather go back and watch Rocky series again instead. There is no entertainment value in his life, he just did all the right things and got it.

Well, I agree with you on one thing. Just because he is successful it does not mean that his story is going to be interesting. Of course he worked hard. And there is no reason to discredit that. Working hard is the hard part. There is a reason it is called 'hard work'. But I agree that hard work is not very interesting to see. What is interesting to see is actually the result after hard work. And I can certainly say that he has definitely worked really hard to achieve what he has so far.

And he did definitely win a lot of rings. He does have a lot of achievement in his life. But of course, there are some commercial movies like 'Rocky' as you said. Of course, this is nothing like that.
hero member
Activity: 2184
Merit: 585
You own the pen
July 31, 2023, 09:36:13 AM
Lot of time ahead for the start of the season, but in your head, wich team do you thing its gonna be a contender and wich team its gonna be a tanker in the bottom of the table?

We can say surely San Antonio comes back again to be a contender after a few long years being a tank team.

Since the Denver Nuggets is the defending champion, all the NBA teams are mostly working on how to beat them and one of the contenders that will gonna surely compete with the Denver Nuggets this upcoming season is the Boston Celtics because they cannot afford to lose the chance again and again when they are few wins away to get that championship. surely they will gonna be different this upcoming season and they will gonna improve their play in order to secure every win to get back in the NBA playoffs and have a higher chance to get the NBA championship as well.
hero member
Activity: 3038
Merit: 592
BTC to the MOON in 2019
July 31, 2023, 09:08:52 AM
They are good but they can still be matched. The Suns last season was fresh and do not have chemistry. They should be better this year with all the talent they have. Giannis was injured in the playoffs. It could have been a different story if he stayed healthy in the post season. The Nuggets are strong but other teams are getting stronger as well. The competition is still very strong.

The Suns were the only team that were able to give good competition to the Nuggets, so I think you have a point that they are going to be even better next season. Although they lost CP3, he wasn't significant enough to the success of the Suns due to injury issues. However, having Bradley Beal on the team takes them to the next level. Let's just hope that the big 3 will be able to stay healthy throughout the season.
legendary
Activity: 2240
Merit: 1069
July 31, 2023, 08:09:36 AM
Lot of time ahead for the start of the season, but in your head, wich team do you thing its gonna be a contender and wich team its gonna be a tanker in the bottom of the table?

We have to wait until all the pieces are in place. There are still a lot of trades that could happen that could drastically change favorites. If nothing else moves, then definitely Boston, Phoenix, Milwaukee and Denver are contenders.

We can say surely San Antonio comes back again to be a contender after a few long years being a tank team.

I doubt San Antonio will be a contender this year. As good as Wembanyama is, the Spurs are still a very young team. I will be surprised if they make it to the playoffs. It will take a few years to develop Wembi to NBA level and surround him with the necessary role players to complement him. It is good if they make it to the playoffs, if not, it is still good. It is a process.

I also agree about the Nuggets. They were looking too good and I don't think anybody can be as good as them right now.

They are good but they can still be matched. The Suns last season was fresh and do not have chemistry. They should be better this year with all the talent they have. Giannis was injured in the playoffs. It could have been a different story if he stayed healthy in the post season. The Nuggets are strong but other teams are getting stronger as well. The competition is still very strong.
hero member
Activity: 1848
Merit: 601
The Martian Child
July 31, 2023, 07:44:51 AM
Well, it's a slippery slope. Ideally nobody should be forced to play in a team or city that they don't want but they have huge contracts knowing that there will be consequences if not met. If he was a free agent he would have every right to reject teams but he's still under a contract and that contains any trades as well. He has to perform %100 even if he goes to other teams than Heat. But I guess we all know how it will end up. Dame will get away with a fine and play for the Heat this season.
That I forgot. Yes, he is still under contract so it's like telling the Portland Trail Blazers management to do something and make it happen that he will end up with the Heat. But I think the Trail Blazers won't be doing it if the offer is not right. The Heat doesn't have enough cards to trade with them in my opinion. They are actually undermanned with so many players injured, including Viktor Oladipo and Tyler Herro.
Well, there's always the buyout option if ever he is traded somewhere else and won't like to play, that's if the other end of the line is just trying to open up some space.

The Miami Heat is indeed in a difficult situation to offer something meaningful to Portland Trail Blazers. They did some movements to free some space. Actually, Oladipo was also traded and it is even accompanied with 2 2nd round future draft picks to make sure Miami Heat gets a trade exception worth $9 million. Earlier Miami did not match and let go of Gabe Vincent and Max Strus. I began to wonder if Miami matched the other teams' offers for Strus and Vincent, maybe Portland is willing to make the Lillard deal. But then again, I am not questioning the capabilities of Pat and Spo.

Regarding the Lillard situation, I am starting to better understand NBA's stand. Lillard still has a live contract and he is expected to perform 100% not just inside the court but off the court as well probably being an ambassador promoting the Trail Blazers' brand in getting better deals that is beneficial to the team. So Lillard can honestly tell the management his preferred next team which is Miami but he cannot say that he will refuse to play in any other teams. That's like threatening and putting his team at a disadvantage in making better deals.
legendary
Activity: 2884
Merit: 1117
July 31, 2023, 07:14:59 AM
I just watched the Stephen Curry documentary on AppleTV. I found it to be a little on the boring side if I’m being honest but it was interesting to see his journey. It just wasn’t a very exciting journey. However, I did think it was interesting how his decision to stay at Davidson paid off and how his college coach believing in him seemingly made the difference between him quitting basketball or not. I think most people never find that person in their life that believes in them and gives them an opportunity.

I regret not having witnessed the documentary, hence my incapability to provide any commentary on if it is actually good or not. But I think every people in the world actually understand that to have a successful career even need to suffer first. Suffering actually gives life value. I know he is a good player, and I also have no doubt that he would have been a good player, regardless of him suffering or not in life. But he wouldn’t be able to become one of the worlds best if he had everything easy.
It's just a documentary because he won so many rings, not because he has a life worth watching. I mean he comes from a basketball family, even his brother is in the NBA and his father was as well, and his father was known for shooting too, so he basically showed them how to since they were very little. He worked hard on the road his father opened up, and things went well and he became a good player.

Sure he ended up being the greatest three pointer ever, but just because you achieved something, doesn't mean it would be entertaining to watch how. He worked hard, that's it, what are we gonna watch his training montage? What is this, rocky? I rather go back and watch Rocky series again instead. There is no entertainment value in his life, he just did all the right things and got it.
hero member
Activity: 3164
Merit: 660
Live with peace and enjoy life!
July 31, 2023, 06:44:06 AM

I also agree about the Nuggets. They were looking too good and I don't think anybody can be as good as them right now.

It's too early to conclude; remember that only a few teams have won back-to-back championships, so there's no guarantee that the Nuggets will be able to repeat next season. The Nuggets have also changed their roster, although they still have the starting 5 intact, some key players have already left and signed better contracts with other teams.

In terms of talent, the competition is very tight; it only differs in chemistry and injury problems. Some teams have outstanding performances in the regular season but struggle in the playoffs due to injury issues. The Nuggets were lucky last season to have a healthy Murray; without him, I doubt they would have won.

Let's hope that we won't be seeing a lot of injuries next season so we can enjoy a very competitive season.

If you were to ask me which team I'd bet on to win the championship, I wouldn't choose the Nuggets; it's probably the Warriors or the Bucks.
hero member
Activity: 1960
Merit: 547
Vave.com - Crypto Casino
July 31, 2023, 06:21:37 AM
NBA sent a memo regarding the Damian trade request and they basically said it's open season and he can't just pick a team to go to. He wants only Miami but the NBA said that any team is free to send offers and that means it is going to be a bit weird going forward. After all a player has a right not to play anywhere they want but that doesn't mean that he can pick just a single team with an expectation to actually go there. If that were to happen then it means teams would have to pay insane amount of money to players and then send them wherever they want, which won't work.

So all in all, maybe there is a chance Dame goes somewhere else, he could still reject it if he wants to but usually teams trade whoever they want to wherever they want as we all know.

I don’t understand. Is there any problem with the player going to the team that he wants? And I just don’t understand why he cannot join the team that he wants if everything is agreed upon. What is the reason for them trying to deny him joining the team that he wants? I understand that some rules and regulations that must be followed. But when everything seems to be agreed upon, what is the problem?

Because he isn't a free agent.  When you are a free agent you can play for anyone you want to who will pay you.  In this case he is under contract and is screwing over the owner of his team for lessening his value on the trade market.  The commissioner works for the owners of the NBA, and if this becomes the new normal than it will be huge implications for teams trying to deal their stars.  I agree he needs to shut up and deal with where he ends up later.  You signed a huge contract knowing you could be moved at anytime.

Well, that is a problem. If he is under contract, he cannot just go out and tell everyone that he wants to play for another team. Of course, no owner is actually going to appreciate that behaviour. I agree that this behaviour also simply is going to screw up the plan of the owner. He should understand that when he is under contract, he is supposed to give his hundred percent to the team that he is in contract with.




The NBA is a little different in this regard. As in European basketball or football teams, there is no order, players cannot meet with teams and express their own opinions.
Actually, this is a bit silly. It doesn't make much sense to have such rules, every player should be able to meet with the team they want. But we know that NBA has its own ecosystem as the regulations on financial situations are different compared to other leagues Smiley

Every different sport is going to have different rules. And every player should follow the rules. And in almost every sport, there are some rules that does not make sense. But that does not mean the players can go ahead and ignore the rules. As a great man said, “without rules we live with the animals”

The thing is, if he is under contract, he cannot act against it.
hero member
Activity: 1274
Merit: 680
July 31, 2023, 05:23:03 AM
Lot of time ahead for the start of the season, but in your head, wich team do you thing its gonna be a contender and wich team its gonna be a tanker in the bottom of the table?

We can say surely San Antonio comes back again to be a contender after a few long years being a tank team.
We cannot tell that yet. Wemby will first show how good he is and this first-year experience will be a great learning point for him. There's a chance they might not even enter the playoffs so don't get your hopes up just yet.
Orlando Magic didn't move much so it will depend on how good Banchero will play this season. If not, they might fall to the bottom.
I won't also underestimate the OKC Thunder yet with so much talent in their roster.
Trail Blazers may actually be the ones who will get problems with all these issues about Damian.
On who will win, I think Denver Nuggets might get a back-to-back.
I agree mostly. Totally agreed about Spurs. It is too early to tell and too early for them to be a contender team. I don't think any player on earth can make that much of an effect in their rookie year. Not even Michael Jordan did, not even Lebron did, not even Shaq did nor Tim Duncan. I am very eager to see what Wemby will show us but let us not expect too much from him just yet. Also, Greg Popovich is kinda old. He is not what he is used to, naturally.

I also agree about the Nuggets. They were looking too good and I don't think anybody can be as good as them right now.
legendary
Activity: 2576
Merit: 1043
Need A Campaign Manager? | Contact Little_Mouse
July 31, 2023, 04:30:54 AM
Bleach Report; The worst contracts in the NBA.

1)Bradley Beal (4 Years 208 Million Dollars)
2)Ben Simmons(2 Years 78 Million Dollars)
3)Duncan Robinson(3 Years 57.4 Million Dollars)
4)Rudy Gobert(3 Years 131.5 Million Dollars)
5)KAT(5 Years 271 Million Dollars)

I agree with all of them except Duncan Robinson.

I think Ben Simmons has the worst contract. This contract is too much for him. I don't think Ben Simmons will ever get these contracts again.

Bradley Beal as one of the worst contracts? It's just that he's one of the worst teams, and they are making him their franchise player thus, he got that huge money. I think I might disagree with that one. Robinson's contract was almost a total fail as well if only he didn't improve last season. I mean he had some developments at least that helped the team.

Gobert and KAT's contract might be a bad one especially with Gobert, but Simmons contract was the worst one among the 5. Just after a year of having an all-star performance, he went from an all-star caliber to a mediocre player who's afraid to shoot in the paint. After his contract, he might go back to Australia, and will regain his composure there, or he might stay there, and play for their national team for the rest of his basketball career.

Lot of time ahead for the start of the season, but in your head, wich team do you thing its gonna be a contender and wich team its gonna be a tanker in the bottom of the table?

We can say surely San Antonio comes back again to be a contender after a few long years being a tank team.
Spurs? Will be a contender just because they got Wemby? Will not happen.
Take note that he's surrounded by young players. The Spurs right now is like the Thunder last season. A young all-star potential player, but surrounded by young, but talented players.

I also disagree with what you said that the Spurs will be a contender. Take note that a rookie can have monstrous performance for a year, but they can't carry their team all the way to NBA Finals. Remember that David Robinson was drafted in 1987, and only got a title after more than 10 years. I'm not saying that it will happen to Wemby, but the Spurs will not be a championship contender in his first year.
hero member
Activity: 1344
Merit: 540
July 31, 2023, 04:24:12 AM
Lot of time ahead for the start of the season, but in your head, wich team do you thing its gonna be a contender and wich team its gonna be a tanker in the bottom of the table?

We can say surely San Antonio comes back again to be a contender after a few long years being a tank team.

At this point it's really hard to tell which team will be a contender and which will be one tanking. For example, last year we didn't thought that the Nuggets will win the NBA finals, they are not the favorite by any chance.

Now we have a lot of teams that changes a lot, players moving to a new team and others.

But for sure all eyes will be in Wemby and it's going to be tough road ahead for San Antonio to even go to the playoffs. Hopefully he can withstand the pressures of the media and the players itself because he will be welcome by players, sort of baptism by like banging on him or dunking on his 7'4'' frame.
legendary
Activity: 3262
Merit: 1130
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
July 31, 2023, 03:15:59 AM
Well, it's a slippery slope. Ideally nobody should be forced to play in a team or city that they don't want but they have huge contracts knowing that there will be consequences if not met. If he was a free agent he would have every right to reject teams but he's still under a contract and that contains any trades as well. He has to perform %100 even if he goes to other teams than Heat. But I guess we all know how it will end up. Dame will get away with a fine and play for the Heat this season.
That I forgot. Yes, he is still under contract so it's like telling the Portland Trail Blazers management to do something and make it happen that he will end up with the Heat. But I think the Trail Blazers won't be doing it if the offer is not right. The Heat doesn't have enough cards to trade with them in my opinion. They are actually undermanned with so many players injured, including Viktor Oladipo and Tyler Herro.
Well, there's always the buyout option if ever he is traded somewhere else and won't like to play, that's if the other end of the line is just trying to open up some space.

Lot of time ahead for the start of the season, but in your head, wich team do you thing its gonna be a contender and wich team its gonna be a tanker in the bottom of the table?

We can say surely San Antonio comes back again to be a contender after a few long years being a tank team.
We cannot tell that yet. Wemby will first show how good he is and this first-year experience will be a great learning point for him. There's a chance they might not even enter the playoffs so don't get your hopes up just yet.
Orlando Magic didn't move much so it will depend on how good Banchero will play this season. If not, they might fall to the bottom.
I won't also underestimate the OKC Thunder yet with so much talent in their roster.
Trail Blazers may actually be the ones who will get problems with all these issues about Damian.
On who will win, I think Denver Nuggets might get a back-to-back.
sr. member
Activity: 616
Merit: 314
CONTEST ORGANIZER
July 30, 2023, 06:24:37 PM
Lot of time ahead for the start of the season, but in your head, wich team do you thing its gonna be a contender and wich team its gonna be a tanker in the bottom of the table?

We can say surely San Antonio comes back again to be a contender after a few long years being a tank team.
hero member
Activity: 2744
Merit: 541
Campaign Management?"Hhampuz" is the Man
July 30, 2023, 06:13:30 PM
NBA sent a memo regarding the Damian trade request and they basically said it's open season and he can't just pick a team to go to. He wants only Miami but the NBA said that any team is free to send offers and that means it is going to be a bit weird going forward. After all a player has a right not to play anywhere they want but that doesn't mean that he can pick just a single team with an expectation to actually go there. If that were to happen then it means teams would have to pay insane amount of money to players and then send them wherever they want, which won't work.

So all in all, maybe there is a chance Dame goes somewhere else, he could still reject it if he wants to but usually teams trade whoever they want to wherever they want as we all know.

I don’t understand. Is there any problem with the player going to the team that he wants? And I just don’t understand why he cannot join the team that he wants if everything is agreed upon. What is the reason for them trying to deny him joining the team that he wants? I understand that some rules and regulations that must be followed. But when everything seems to be agreed upon, what is the problem?

If both sides already agree there's nothing that can avoid the trade to happen, in Lilard's case there's still no close deal with what
Miami is offering for the Blazers, trade ain't complete yet.

The statement from the NBA is regarding to what Lilard announces regarding with he only wants to play with Miami and nothing else.

But still depends on how Miami and Blazers will take this deal, else we might see Lilard playing to other teams
that Blazers will accept the offer.
EFS
staff
Activity: 3822
Merit: 2123
Crypto Swap Exchange
July 30, 2023, 05:45:10 PM
Well, it's a slippery slope. Ideally nobody should be forced to play in a team or city that they don't want but they have huge contracts knowing that there will be consequences if not met. If he was a free agent he would have every right to reject teams but he's still under a contract and that contains any trades as well. He has to perform %100 even if he goes to other teams than Heat. But I guess we all know how it will end up. Dame will get away with a fine and play for the Heat this season.
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1523
July 30, 2023, 03:39:29 PM
NBA sent a memo regarding the Damian trade request and they basically said it's open season and he can't just pick a team to go to. He wants only Miami but the NBA said that any team is free to send offers and that means it is going to be a bit weird going forward. After all a player has a right not to play anywhere they want but that doesn't mean that he can pick just a single team with an expectation to actually go there. If that were to happen then it means teams would have to pay insane amount of money to players and then send them wherever they want, which won't work.

So all in all, maybe there is a chance Dame goes somewhere else, he could still reject it if he wants to but usually teams trade whoever they want to wherever they want as we all know.

I don’t understand. Is there any problem with the player going to the team that he wants? And I just don’t understand why he cannot join the team that he wants if everything is agreed upon. What is the reason for them trying to deny him joining the team that he wants? I understand that some rules and regulations that must be followed. But when everything seems to be agreed upon, what is the problem?

The NBA is a little different in this regard. As in European basketball or football teams, there is no order, players cannot meet with teams and express their own opinions.
Actually, this is a bit silly. It doesn't make much sense to have such rules, every player should be able to meet with the team they want. But we know that NBA has its own ecosystem as the regulations on financial situations are different compared to other leagues Smiley
legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 1415
July 30, 2023, 03:37:13 PM
NBA sent a memo regarding the Damian trade request and they basically said it's open season and he can't just pick a team to go to. He wants only Miami but the NBA said that any team is free to send offers and that means it is going to be a bit weird going forward. After all a player has a right not to play anywhere they want but that doesn't mean that he can pick just a single team with an expectation to actually go there. If that were to happen then it means teams would have to pay insane amount of money to players and then send them wherever they want, which won't work.

So all in all, maybe there is a chance Dame goes somewhere else, he could still reject it if he wants to but usually teams trade whoever they want to wherever they want as we all know.

I don’t understand. Is there any problem with the player going to the team that he wants? And I just don’t understand why he cannot join the team that he wants if everything is agreed upon. What is the reason for them trying to deny him joining the team that he wants? I understand that some rules and regulations that must be followed. But when everything seems to be agreed upon, what is the problem?

Because he isn't a free agent.  When you are a free agent you can play for anyone you want to who will pay you.  In this case he is under contract and is screwing over the owner of his team for lessening his value on the trade market.  The commissioner works for the owners of the NBA, and if this becomes the new normal than it will be huge implications for teams trying to deal their stars.  I agree he needs to shut up and deal with where he ends up later.  You signed a huge contract knowing you could be moved at anytime.
Jump to: