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August 03, 2023, 10:57:04 AM

The kind of statement he made is powerful enough to make other teams, which he didn't choose, try to prevent him from getting there. However, it doesn't help the NBA overall, as players now seem to dictate, rather than acting as professionals and playing according to their contracts. Lillard should not have said it publicly; the negotiations between his team should have been handled confidentially. Now, if the deal with the Miami Heat doesn't succeed, can the Blazers still expect Lillard to give his best next season?

Most likely they will lose investors and some advertisement because, with this kind of scenario, I'm sure companies will not risk signing them another contract because there will be no assurance of competition in their team to reach even the NBA playoffs next season and surely they will gonna be busy working on trading him in another team if the current deal will not success. However, if he gonna speak some convincing words that he will gonna do the best he can to help their team to get back to the NBA playoffs like he was doing before, then it will be a positive story that won't gonna cut their possible earnings this upcoming season.
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August 03, 2023, 10:15:55 AM
Brian Windhorst came out and said that no other teams outside of Miami have come forward to seriously make a trade offer for Damian Lillard. I’m not sure if it’s his contract, his age, or other teams are just trying to respect his wishes to end up in Miami, but it’s starting to look like Lillard might be a Trailblazer next season. I’m not sure how good that will be for his reputation if he’s disgruntled after being labeled as the most loyal player in the NBA.

Maybe they are also afraid that Lillard will not play with them since he release a statement that he only want to play on Miami. So maybe from this many team avoid him since they might lose a vital piece on their roster and Lillard is not fully committed on their team. Don't know if this trade plan will proceed since Blazers and its fans doesn't like the trade offer given by Miami so most likely we can still see Lillard wearing a Blazers uniform next season.

This could also be the likely case, that's why other teams are mum on even mentioning Lillard for a trade with them. They know that he wanted to play with only one team and that is Miami Heat, no more no less. If they enter the picture, they might disrupt what's going on from behind the negotiations.

On the other hand, we don't hear anything from the Heat as well. And there are even suggestions, that it's better for the Heat to just focus on Tyler Hero and make him their next big offensive weapon of a Dame Lillard didn't materialised this season.

So quite regarding to this trade no updates and with regard to other team's intentions to take Lilard, not sure if there's
negotiations or no one are really interested in interfering with the trade deal between Heat and Blazers.

Most likely since this trade has taken a lot of media attention to the point that the NBA issued a memo? for sure they will be working behind and there will be no official statements until everything is final.

I'm not sure if Miami will continue to try offering what they've got or like what you said, they will stay with Hero and try to develop
his skills for more competitive capabilities.

Future draft picks will be the biggest offering + Herro, it could be 5 or 6 but not sure if Heat is willing to give up that kind of huge players. So the only thing for us is to wait and see how everything will go down.
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August 03, 2023, 08:54:32 AM
Brian Windhorst came out and said that no other teams outside of Miami have come forward to seriously make a trade offer for Damian Lillard. I’m not sure if it’s his contract, his age, or other teams are just trying to respect his wishes to end up in Miami, but it’s starting to look like Lillard might be a Trailblazer next season. I’m not sure how good that will be for his reputation if he’s disgruntled after being labeled as the most loyal player in the NBA.

Maybe they are also afraid that Lillard will not play with them since he release a statement that he only want to play on Miami. So maybe from this many team avoid him since they might lose a vital piece on their roster and Lillard is not fully committed on their team. Don't know if this trade plan will proceed since Blazers and its fans doesn't like the trade offer given by Miami so most likely we can still see Lillard wearing a Blazers uniform next season.

This could also be the likely case, that's why other teams are mum on even mentioning Lillard for a trade with them. They know that he wanted to play with only one team and that is Miami Heat, no more no less. If they enter the picture, they might disrupt what's going on from behind the negotiations.

On the other hand, we don't hear anything from the Heat as well. And there are even suggestions, that it's better for the Heat to just focus on Tyler Hero and make him their next big offensive weapon of a Dame Lillard didn't materialised this season.

So quite regarding to this trade no updates and with regard to other team's intentions to take Lilard, not sure if there's
negotiations or no one are really interested in interfering with the trade deal between Heat and Blazers.

I'm not sure if Miami will continue to try offering what they've got or like what you said, they will stay with Hero and try to develop
his skills for more competitive capabilities.
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August 03, 2023, 07:54:01 AM
Brian Windhorst came out and said that no other teams outside of Miami have come forward to seriously make a trade offer for Damian Lillard. I’m not sure if it’s his contract, his age, or other teams are just trying to respect his wishes to end up in Miami, but it’s starting to look like Lillard might be a Trailblazer next season. I’m not sure how good that will be for his reputation if he’s disgruntled after being labeled as the most loyal player in the NBA.

Maybe they are also afraid that Lillard will not play with them since he release a statement that he only want to play on Miami. So maybe from this many team avoid him since they might lose a vital piece on their roster and Lillard is not fully committed on their team. Don't know if this trade plan will proceed since Blazers and its fans doesn't like the trade offer given by Miami so most likely we can still see Lillard wearing a Blazers uniform next season.

The kind of statement he made is powerful enough to make other teams, which he didn't choose, try to prevent him from getting there. However, it doesn't help the NBA overall, as players now seem to dictate, rather than acting as professionals and playing according to their contracts. Lillard should not have said it publicly; the negotiations between his team should have been handled confidentially. Now, if the deal with the Miami Heat doesn't succeed, can the Blazers still expect Lillard to give his best next season?
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August 03, 2023, 07:52:34 AM
Brian Windhorst came out and said that no other teams outside of Miami have come forward to seriously make a trade offer for Damian Lillard. I’m not sure if it’s his contract, his age, or other teams are just trying to respect his wishes to end up in Miami, but it’s starting to look like Lillard might be a Trailblazer next season. I’m not sure how good that will be for his reputation if he’s disgruntled after being labeled as the most loyal player in the NBA.

Maybe they are also afraid that Lillard will not play with them since he release a statement that he only want to play on Miami. So maybe from this many team avoid him since they might lose a vital piece on their roster and Lillard is not fully committed on their team. Don't know if this trade plan will proceed since Blazers and its fans doesn't like the trade offer given by Miami so most likely we can still see Lillard wearing a Blazers uniform next season.

This could also be the likely case, that's why other teams are mum on even mentioning Lillard for a trade with them. They know that he wanted to play with only one team and that is Miami Heat, no more no less. If they enter the picture, they might disrupt what's going on from behind the negotiations.

On the other hand, we don't hear anything from the Heat as well. And there are even suggestions, that it's better for the Heat to just focus on Tyler Hero and make him their next big offensive weapon of a Dame Lillard didn't materialised this season.
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August 03, 2023, 07:39:42 AM
Brian Windhorst came out and said that no other teams outside of Miami have come forward to seriously make a trade offer for Damian Lillard. I’m not sure if it’s his contract, his age, or other teams are just trying to respect his wishes to end up in Miami, but it’s starting to look like Lillard might be a Trailblazer next season. I’m not sure how good that will be for his reputation if he’s disgruntled after being labeled as the most loyal player in the NBA.

Maybe they are also afraid that Lillard will not play with them since he release a statement that he only want to play on Miami. So maybe from this many team avoid him since they might lose a vital piece on their roster and Lillard is not fully committed on their team. Don't know if this trade plan will proceed since Blazers and its fans doesn't like the trade offer given by Miami so most likely we can still see Lillard wearing a Blazers uniform next season.
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August 03, 2023, 07:23:59 AM
Brian Windhorst came out and said that no other teams outside of Miami have come forward to seriously make a trade offer for Damian Lillard. I’m not sure if it’s his contract, his age, or other teams are just trying to respect his wishes to end up in Miami, but it’s starting to look like Lillard might be a Trailblazer next season. I’m not sure how good that will be for his reputation if he’s disgruntled after being labeled as the most loyal player in the NBA.
Perhaps when the news came out that he wanted his destination to be Miami, then teams are no longer interested on him. And then know that it might take a lot of players to be involved in the trade, and future picks too and they don't want to take that risk as Dame is already injury prone in the last 2 years of his career.

And if he ended up to nothing or still be in Portland, then we will see if he is going to sit out or give it one more try. He will be tested with his current situation, and we can only hope that he will be ending up in a team that he wanted to play.
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August 03, 2023, 07:19:00 AM
One on one is way different than team ball.  This kid would look absolutely lost on an nba court right now.  Beal will be fine, he is going to get a lot of spacing with book and Durant on the court as well.  I wouldn't worry if I was the suns.

Yeah, but it just shows their competitiveness, I also have seen glimpse of this news and I didn't thought about it until the post. Because I have the impression that the kid wanted to apologized to Beal for whatever reasons, but didn't know that they play 1:1 and he embarrassed him.

But I do agree, there is nothing to worry about, just one game, maybe it was just hype or something. The important thing is that Bradley Beal can still play in the NBA and I don't think that he lost steps.
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August 03, 2023, 06:54:31 AM
What do you guys think about this Bradley Beal story? Has he lost a step and this should be a concern for the Phoenix Suns? Is this a wake up call that he needs to get back in the lab and do some work if he wants to be successful next year? Maybe Bradley Beal had an off day or this kid is just the next big thing? Interesting story no matter what.


Well, If Brian Scal did not talk sh*t then I guess Bradley Beal is pretty sure get embarrassed. However he reacted on this rumor saying it's not true calling it cap.

Right now, nobody knows if the rumors was true except for those people who witnessed the game. Some said Beal was just taking him lightly because he's a high school kid but got pissed because the kid was trash talking, but the rumors about Beal getting cooked in a 1 on 1 was not true. Some skeptical people were also saying that it might be true but no NBA player, especially for a superstar would admit that.
There is really no guarantee if the rumor was true, but one thing is for sure, that kid is a potential #1 NBA prospect.


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August 03, 2023, 06:29:20 AM
Actually, the Denver Nuggets is a very versatile team whom their strengths are not just based on their outside shooting percentage and it's been a mystery to find out what is their weakness because in the recent season, there is no team in the NBA who was able to solve that mystery and effectively stopped or at least slowed down the Nuggets to prevent them to dominate the game.

And with that, I'm quite sure that almost all of the teams now are experimenting and will be basing their practice towards the Nuggets once their respective training camps will commence.

As I see it, Jokic is the main reason why no team could do anything against the Nuggets last season. He is a really versatile player and can adapt to different situations on the court, which is an uncharacteristic trait for a player who plays the center position. Overall, the Nuggets have a pretty balanced roster, as they also have a healthy Murray and several good role players who help Jokic. It's so far an insurmountable challenge for their opponents.
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August 03, 2023, 06:05:01 AM
Brian Windhorst came out and said that no other teams outside of Miami have come forward to seriously make a trade offer for Damian Lillard. I’m not sure if it’s his contract, his age, or other teams are just trying to respect his wishes to end up in Miami, but it’s starting to look like Lillard might be a Trailblazer next season. I’m not sure how good that will be for his reputation if he’s disgruntled after being labeled as the most loyal player in the NBA.
It would be unwise to keep Lillard despite how vocal he is about wanting to leave the team. The fact that he wants a trade means that if he is required to play while the team has not found a good offer yet, they should not expect Lillard to give his best as he did before.

I believe the Heat and the Blazers need to talk again and find a way to make that trade happen. It's always nice to cheer on a team knowing that all the players are committed to winning.

For asking a trade it means that he doesn't want to play with them anymore so its really bad decision if they decide to keep him because for sure he will not play as a team player and might this will be a problem with them if he show some bad attitude to his teammates.
Much better if they should trade him on what team gives the best offer so that they can create good chemistry with the player exchange with Lillard and get some good picks on next draft.
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August 03, 2023, 01:37:14 AM
Brian Windhorst came out and said that no other teams outside of Miami have come forward to seriously make a trade offer for Damian Lillard. I’m not sure if it’s his contract, his age, or other teams are just trying to respect his wishes to end up in Miami, but it’s starting to look like Lillard might be a Trailblazer next season. I’m not sure how good that will be for his reputation if he’s disgruntled after being labeled as the most loyal player in the NBA.
It would be unwise to keep Lillard despite how vocal he is about wanting to leave the team. The fact that he wants a trade means that if he is required to play while the team has not found a good offer yet, they should not expect Lillard to give his best as he did before.

I believe the Heat and the Blazers need to talk again and find a way to make that trade happen. It's always nice to cheer on a team knowing that all the players are committed to winning.
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August 03, 2023, 01:33:18 AM
Brian Windhorst came out and said that no other teams outside of Miami have come forward to seriously make a trade offer for Damian Lillard. I’m not sure if it’s his contract, his age, or other teams are just trying to respect his wishes to end up in Miami, but it’s starting to look like Lillard might be a Trailblazer next season. I’m not sure how good that will be for his reputation if he’s disgruntled after being labeled as the most loyal player in the NBA.
I mean if he has already stated his desire to join a particular team then what's the point of getting him? No team would ever want an unmotivated player in their roster so it's a good move to stay out and let them sort it out. I think Blazers is taking more risk for holding on to Dame here. I can already see another season with no playoffs since I don't expect him to perform above his average.
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August 03, 2023, 12:51:15 AM
Brian Windhorst came out and said that no other teams outside of Miami have come forward to seriously make a trade offer for Damian Lillard. I’m not sure if it’s his contract, his age, or other teams are just trying to respect his wishes to end up in Miami, but it’s starting to look like Lillard might be a Trailblazer next season. I’m not sure how good that will be for his reputation if he’s disgruntled after being labeled as the most loyal player in the NBA.
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August 02, 2023, 07:29:26 PM
I just saw that Doc Rivers is working for ESPN now.  Grin

Guess teams have finally realized that he is not the coach you need if you want to win. His resume in the playoffs over the past years is so weak, no wonder nobody wanted to sign him, even when there were 4 or so vacant coaching positions available after last season.

Once you start working for a tv network, your career almost always is over.
Yeah, it's over for the coaching career or for players their careers too. I have not seen one player who became a television analyst or commentator that went back to playing or coaching.
It looks like we are going to hear that hoarse voice of Doc Rivers a lot of times from now on. It's cool for me, he has a good basketball IQ about the game but I guess the last few years of coaching for him was not good. Too much drama from his players.

What do you guys think about this Bradley Beal story? Has he lost a step and this should be a concern for the Phoenix Suns? Is this a wake up call that he needs to get back in the lab and do some work if he wants to be successful next year? Maybe Bradley Beal had an off day or this kid is just the next big thing? Interesting story no matter what.
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I was never impressed with Bradley Beal's game ever since he came to the NBA. Never a fan of this guy. I cannot even remember when we talked about this guy here in our lovely thread.  Cheesy Actually, I thought this will be the time that I will become a fan of him when I see him do his work in Phoenix. I mean, this will show how effective a point guard will be when you combine them with star players like Booker and Durant. Both are assassins in shooting skills. So what will Beal do? Will he be a playmaker or the same as what he did in Washington? A ball hog.
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August 02, 2023, 05:59:09 PM
One on one is way different than team ball.  This kid would look absolutely lost on an nba court right now.  Beal will be fine, he is going to get a lot of spacing with book and Durant on the court as well.  I wouldn't worry if I was the suns.

Yeah that's what I was going to say, one on one is an entirely different animal and crazy shit happens.  I've seen some great players lose to players who aren't nearly as good or talented simply because of a few bad shots and odd things that happen that normally wouldn't.  But also this Flagg kid is one of the top prospects and the #2 prospect for the 2025 class.  He'll be going to any school he want's and may not stay long in college, so it's not like Beal was playing just some dude.

https://fadeawayworld.net/16-year-old-nba-prospect-cooper-flagg-reportedly-destroyed-bradley-beal-in-1-on-1-game-who-got-mad-at-him-and-started-cussing-him-out
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August 02, 2023, 05:45:02 PM
Lakers is considered to be a dark horse as well, if I'm not mistaken, of course some of the core is back but still, a ageing Lebron and then injury prone AD? Still not sure how far the Lakers can go in this season.


No matter what happens to them in the Lakers this season, they have already done their job and won the championship because that's just all that it matters when you are with the Superteam trying to be a contender in the NBA league. It will be more amazing when they can get back to the NBA playoffs this season because they easily made a great run last season and also beat the defending champion easily. The worse thing they did was signed Westbrook despite having multiple stars that can help them with the championship again last season.

But some fans are saying that what they did was not enough because the last time they won the championship was in the middle of Covid pandemic where they had in-house games with a lot of rules to prevent Covid-19 from entering the league, moreover, at that time, NBA was still at an experimenting phase and not all players did play just like the usual season. Anyway, people have been divided when it comes to the topic, but yes, a win is a win and nobody can take that from them.

There is still in doubts about what the Lakers achieved, but a title is still a title and even it's a pandemic setup, the players are still
playing at the best that they can.

Though it's still better to see Lakers with LeBron to win another title, and with how they are forming the team right now.

There's always chances for anything and who knows AD will play healthy this coming season, still early to conclude if what
will be the fate if they will perform and have that chance to win a title.
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August 02, 2023, 05:43:41 PM
One on one is way different than team ball.  This kid would look absolutely lost on an nba court right now.  Beal will be fine, he is going to get a lot of spacing with book and Durant on the court as well.  I wouldn't worry if I was the suns.
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August 02, 2023, 04:25:18 PM
What do you guys think about this Bradley Beal story? Has he lost a step and this should be a concern for the Phoenix Suns? Is this a wake up call that he needs to get back in the lab and do some work if he wants to be successful next year? Maybe Bradley Beal had an off day or this kid is just the next big thing? Interesting story no matter what.

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August 02, 2023, 04:10:20 PM
ESPN must be losing a lot of money if they really decide to go this route. I mean Doc Rivers is not exactly one you listen to is a great thing to think, plus he is a coach, so his insights might be good but he is also not an announcer or anyone like that, him talking doesn't really sound that great to me.

They made a mistake, all this lay offs and new names will not make it interesting for them, it is not going to be that great, maybe the first year people will want to tune it to see how the changes are, but the long term will not be good neither. Doc should also take a job as a coach, he is Doc Rivers for Christ sake, I can't think of a season where he is not coaching, he should be doing that, he is good enough for any team.
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