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With James harden trying to force his way out of Philly to the clippers, Ben Simmons shipped out & Markelle Fultz being a flop, it seemed like Philly was resting its hopes on Joel Embiid. Well, now Embiid is saying he doesn’t care what team he plays for, he just wants a championship. It looks like ‘Trust the Process’ may officially be a failure soon.

I thought the process was already over after the Simmons trade. He already has MVP attached to his name so it's understandable that the only thing left is winning the championship. I won't be surprised if he asked for a trade too just to get that ring. He doesn't strike me as a loyal and persistent player like Giannis.

Oh I bet he will ask for that in a few seasons from now specifically if the Philly will not give Embiid another buddy to keep the team rolling with or without him because he and Maxey will not be enough to get that ring. He may have the MVP award recently but that will not equate to someone who already have a ring and we all know that Embiid alone cannot at least bring the team to the conference finals.

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What do you guys think of all this Zach Lavine rumor stuff going on? I would say it's nonsense, but I listen to Chicago Sports radio on a daily basis and they are starting to say "where there's smoke, there's often fire". So I think there's a legit chance he does get traded... but what I can't figure out is why on earth they signed Nikola Vucevic if they plan to trade Lavine?

Bulls basketball starting to look real ugly again. SMH

https://sports.yahoo.com/keep-eye-bulls-zach-lavine-170015705.html

And I thought they are now okay with their roster and adding a new point guard will be their only key to restoring their greatness. They got the disabled player exception which is 10 million, I don't think they need to trade him for someone else. Besides, the duo of DeMar DeRozan and Zach LaVine is getting better in their chemistry, all they need is a bit more patience. It's not their fault they are undermanned without Lonzo Ball, it's part of the game.
Surely, this will wreck their roster if they trade him. He had been the face of their franchise, it's just a matter of time and the right players to make them great again.
I think the Chicago Bulls management is drooling over the Harden and Lillard opening for trade. Trading LaVine + the $10M will give them the possibility to get one of them.

If that's what the Chicago Bulls were thinking, they should think more deeper. Both Lillard and Harden won't gonna help them win a championship. Yes, they're a great offensive player, but not as much defensively plus either of them will mess up the team chemistry.
Trading away Lavine will be their first mistake if that happens. Instead they should focus on getting a legitimate big man and a spot up shooters who can also play defense, to add more depth to their current roster. Trading away one of their key players will not going to help them win a chip.

I agree to that, they already doing well and break again the chemistries by trading one of their main star is a big mistake.

It's better to have an additional big man and a legitimate shooter to add up and help them in their
campaign, for me, Lavine and DeRozan just need a good role players who can adopt the way they
play and help them in executing both their offense and defense. It's a decision that the management
needs to think twice if they are going to push in trading away Lavine.

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If that's true, then the 76ers management should think about building a really strong team before Embiid runs out of patience.

Actually, Philly is always doing their best to build a strong core around Joel Embiid every season. Even reshuffling the coaching staff is being considered. They are always active at trying to get into hot trades and actively fishing some good role players at the free agency.

The "Trust the Process" that is currently several years in the making now achieved 1 achievement, and that is Embiid now finally getting his NBA Season MVP award. The next and the biggest one should be the NBA Championship but will he be able to achieve it in Philly or elsewhere?

Chemistry issues indeed. Again as I mentioned, several times already where Philly tried to build a solid lineup around Embiid but nothing works effectively. Maybe Embiid can find it on another team but as long as he won't demand a trade, Philly should just try their best to find a good role players out there that will perfectly blend with Embiid.

If they always change their roster each season then they might not get any best result in the long run since chemistry is really important in a team and they cannot get that if there's always a roster change happen every end of the season. Much better if they focus to build up good chemistry with current strong roster they have since for sure with that they might have a good chance to win a championship on their team. For now as you said they really need good role players since this could help them a lot.

Embiid has not shown any interest in leaving the team thus far, but there are rumors of his teammates, like James Harden, wanting a trade. In this situation, it might be worth considering trading Harden, as he hasn't performed at his best with the team. Embiid is the franchise player and team captain, so the focus should be on surrounding him with capable players who will commit to the system. Additionally, having a coach with a championship mentality is crucial for their success.

He might not shown his intentions directly, but thru his words, you can clearly that he is willing to get out of Philly and go to a championship contender team. Philly though has surrounded him with good players like a prime Ben, before the breakdown, and we have seen them getting closer, if not for that heart breaking lost to the Raptors lead by Kawhi. And now that Harden's want to leave, then it will be Embiid job again and it might be very difficult to him because he need another good A-caliber player to help him.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on July 18, 2023, 11:38:38 PM

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 18, 2023, 05:13:04 PM

What do you guys think of all this Zach Lavine rumor stuff going on? I would say it's nonsense, but I listen to Chicago Sports radio on a daily basis and they are starting to say "where there's smoke, there's often fire". So I think there's a legit chance he does get traded... but what I can't figure out is why on earth they signed Nikola Vucevic if they plan to trade Lavine?

Bulls basketball starting to look real ugly again. SMH

https://sports.yahoo.com/keep-eye-bulls-zach-lavine-170015705.html

And I thought they are now okay with their roster and adding a new point guard will be their only key to restoring their greatness. They got the disabled player exception which is 10 million, I don't think they need to trade him for someone else. Besides, the duo of DeMar DeRozan and Zach LaVine is getting better in their chemistry, all they need is a bit more patience. It's not their fault they are undermanned without Lonzo Ball, it's part of the game.
Surely, this will wreck their roster if they trade him. He had been the face of their franchise, it's just a matter of time and the right players to make them great again.
I think the Chicago Bulls management is drooling over the Harden and Lillard opening for trade. Trading LaVine + the $10M will give them the possibility to get one of them.

If that's what the Chicago Bulls were thinking, they should think more deeper. Both Lillard and Harden won't gonna help them win a championship. Yes, they're a great offensive player, but not as much defensively plus either of them will mess up the team chemistry.
Trading away Lavine will be their first mistake if that happens. Instead they should focus on getting a legitimate big man and a spot up shooters who can also play defense, to add more depth to their current roster. Trading away one of their key players will not going to help them win a chip.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 18, 2023, 05:13:04 PM

What do you guys think of all this Zach Lavine rumor stuff going on? I would say it's nonsense, but I listen to Chicago Sports radio on a daily basis and they are starting to say "where there's smoke, there's often fire". So I think there's a legit chance he does get traded... but what I can't figure out is why on earth they signed Nikola Vucevic if they plan to trade Lavine?

Bulls basketball starting to look real ugly again. SMH

https://sports.yahoo.com/keep-eye-bulls-zach-lavine-170015705.html

And I thought they are now okay with their roster and adding a new point guard will be their only key to restoring their greatness. They got the disabled player exception which is 10 million, I don't think they need to trade him for someone else. Besides, the duo of DeMar DeRozan and Zach LaVine is getting better in their chemistry, all they need is a bit more patience. It's not their fault they are undermanned without Lonzo Ball, it's part of the game.
Surely, this will wreck their roster if they trade him. He had been the face of their franchise, it's just a matter of time and the right players to make them great again.
I think the Chicago Bulls management is drooling over the Harden and Lillard opening for trade. Trading LaVine + the $10M will give them the possibility to get one of them.

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Quote from: arwin100 on July 18, 2023, 07:55:08 PM

If they always change their roster each season then they might not get any best result in the long run since chemistry is really important in a team and they cannot get that if there's always a roster change happen every end of the season. Much better if they focus to build up good chemistry with current strong roster they have since for sure with that they might have a good chance to win a championship on their team. For now as you said they really need good role players since this could help them a lot.

Changing the squad every season would not assist the players develop excellent chemistry; rather, they will get more confused while dealing with their teammates, since they will have tried to adjust to new strategies each season. The team requires experienced players who understand how to perform under pressure from their opponents on the basketball floor. Of course, there will always be a need to sign new players to replace either departing key players or injured ones; that is a simple fact that cannot be changed. The coach must awaken from his slumber and focus entirely on how to improve the team's performance.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on July 18, 2023, 02:24:55 PM

If that's true, then the 76ers management should think about building a really strong team before Embiid runs out of patience.

Actually, Philly is always doing their best to build a strong core around Joel Embiid every season. Even reshuffling the coaching staff is being considered. They are always active at trying to get into hot trades and actively fishing some good role players at the free agency.

The "Trust the Process" that is currently several years in the making now achieved 1 achievement, and that is Embiid now finally getting his NBA Season MVP award. The next and the biggest one should be the NBA Championship but will he be able to achieve it in Philly or elsewhere?

Chemistry issues indeed. Again as I mentioned, several times already where Philly tried to build a solid lineup around Embiid but nothing works effectively. Maybe Embiid can find it on another team but as long as he won't demand a trade, Philly should just try their best to find a good role players out there that will perfectly blend with Embiid.

If they always change their roster each season then they might not get any best result in the long run since chemistry is really important in a team and they cannot get that if there's always a roster change happen every end of the season. Much better if they focus to build up good chemistry with current strong roster they have since for sure with that they might have a good chance to win a championship on their team. For now as you said they really need good role players since this could help them a lot.

Embiid has not shown any interest in leaving the team thus far, but there are rumors of his teammates, like James Harden, wanting a trade. In this situation, it might be worth considering trading Harden, as he hasn't performed at his best with the team. Embiid is the franchise player and team captain, so the focus should be on surrounding him with capable players who will commit to the system. Additionally, having a coach with a championship mentality is crucial for their success.

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Quote from: harizen on July 18, 2023, 07:41:45 PM

Quote from: dwyane36 on July 18, 2023, 02:24:55 PM

If that's true, then the 76ers management should think about building a really strong team before Embiid runs out of patience.

Actually, Philly is always doing their best to build a strong core around Joel Embiid every season. Even reshuffling the coaching staff is being considered. They are always active at trying to get into hot trades and actively fishing some good role players at the free agency.

The "Trust the Process" that is currently several years in the making now achieved 1 achievement, and that is Embiid now finally getting his NBA Season MVP award. The next and the biggest one should be the NBA Championship but will he be able to achieve it in Philly or elsewhere?

Chemistry issues indeed. Again as I mentioned, several times already where Philly tried to build a solid lineup around Embiid but nothing works effectively. Maybe Embiid can find it on another team but as long as he won't demand a trade, Philly should just try their best to find a good role players out there that will perfectly blend with Embiid.

If they always change their roster each season then they might not get any best result in the long run since chemistry is really important in a team and they cannot get that if there's always a roster change happen every end of the season. Much better if they focus to build up good chemistry with current strong roster they have since for sure with that they might have a good chance to win a championship on their team. For now as you said they really need good role players since this could help them a lot.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on July 18, 2023, 02:24:55 PM

If that's true, then the 76ers management should think about building a really strong team before Embiid runs out of patience.

Actually, Philly is always doing their best to build a strong core around Joel Embiid every season. Even reshuffling the coaching staff is being considered. They are always active at trying to get into hot trades and actively fishing some good role players at the free agency.

The "Trust the Process" that is currently several years in the making now achieved 1 achievement, and that is Embiid now finally getting his NBA Season MVP award. The next and the biggest one should be the NBA Championship but will he be able to achieve it in Philly or elsewhere?

Chemistry issues indeed. Again as I mentioned, several times already where Philly tried to build a solid lineup around Embiid but nothing works effectively. Maybe Embiid can find it on another team but as long as he won't demand a trade, Philly should just try their best to find a good role players out there that will perfectly blend with Embiid.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 18, 2023, 05:13:04 PM

What do you guys think of all this Zach Lavine rumor stuff going on? I would say it's nonsense, but I listen to Chicago Sports radio on a daily basis and they are starting to say "where there's smoke, there's often fire". So I think there's a legit chance he does get traded... but what I can't figure out is why on earth they signed Nikola Vucevic if they plan to trade Lavine?

Bulls basketball starting to look real ugly again. SMH

https://sports.yahoo.com/keep-eye-bulls-zach-lavine-170015705.html

It's because the Bulls have been rebuilding in the last couple of years with acquisition of Vucevic and then DeRozan. And yet they can't even win games in the playoff. So perhaps Lavine frustrations is growing. And I think even before their season end last year, there have been noises already that Lavine might leave Chicago with the same reasons. So we will see how it goes, if star players are unhappy with their franchise then I wouldn't be surprise if Lavine behind the back might be asking for a trade right now from the management.

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Free agent center Omer Yurtseven has signed a $5.4 million contract with the Utah Jazz.
Omer Yurtseven previously played for the Miami Heat. He didn't get many chances to play for the Miami Heat. I hope he plays more for the Utah Jazz and proves himself.

It's because of injuries that's why he didn't play that much when he's on the Heat.
Not a familiar name for me, but I just hope that his injuries will not be a hinder on his NBA career.

I know he had an injury, but the biggest factor in him not playing was that Bam Adebayo was playing.

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Free agent center Omer Yurtseven has signed a $5.4 million contract with the Utah Jazz.
Omer Yurtseven previously played for the Miami Heat. He didn't get many chances to play for the Miami Heat. I hope he plays more for the Utah Jazz and proves himself.

These centers nowadays are having a hard time showcasing their skills due to some limited minutes to play and when they are not effective enough on the court, they will gonna be sitting on the bench for the rest of the games, and in the end, their stats will not improve and will end up getting their rank to decrease as well because there are no more numbers to add. He needs to go to the team that doesn't have enough Center or they will just be lucky when the star center of that team gets injured and that's when they have the chance to change the people's view on them.

I agree with you on this, such players can only show themselves when star pivots are injured and this possibility is usually very low.

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What do you guys think of all this Zach Lavine rumor stuff going on? I would say it's nonsense, but I listen to Chicago Sports radio on a daily basis and they are starting to say "where there's smoke, there's often fire". So I think there's a legit chance he does get traded... but what I can't figure out is why on earth they signed Nikola Vucevic if they plan to trade Lavine?

Bulls basketball starting to look real ugly again. SMH

https://sports.yahoo.com/keep-eye-bulls-zach-lavine-170015705.html

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 18, 2023, 11:19:11 AM

With James harden trying to force his way out of Philly to the clippers, Ben Simmons shipped out & Markelle Fultz being a flop, it seemed like Philly was resting its hopes on Joel Embiid. Well, now Embiid is saying he doesn’t care what team he plays for, he just wants a championship. It looks like ‘Trust the Process’ may officially be a failure soon.

Embiid's desire to win his first title is understandable. However, I've heard other rumors about him and the 76ers. There's a rumor that Embiid wants to go the way of Dirk and Kobe. In other words, he wants to stay with the 76ers for his entire career and win a title in Philadelphia. If that's true, then the 76ers management should think about building a really strong team before Embiid runs out of patience.

Problem is if they stripped the team it will be tough unless players like Maxey completely step up this year. I bet every player wants to stick around but when the idea of another rebuild as part of the end of your career that's when it's time to move, like Dame. Dude has been real loyal to Portland but sees the writing on the wall.

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I don’t like players who are very tall, but skinny build. I personally believe that they have a bigger chance of getting injured. If tall players are medium build and powerful, I don’t have any problems. But some players like Bol Bol can actually get injured easily in my opinion. And it will be more problematic towards the later stages of his career.

The first impression of many with tall yet skinny is that they're unhealthy and can easily be beaten by bigger guys. But it is that the game is changing and the style of playing basketball especially in the NBA have been improving and upgrading. Tall guys are looking easy to get injured but that's part of it for every player.

Yes, Tall but slim player who will be placed at the number 5 position might suffer from an injury,

Or they mostly be taken as liable for the team, as the player will go on one on one and try to demolish them using
the upper body strength and get an easy two plus a foul.

It's had competition for those kind of body shapes, though if you can play like KD where skills sets are really
amazing, your space inside the NBA will be wide.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 18, 2023, 11:19:11 AM

With James harden trying to force his way out of Philly to the clippers, Ben Simmons shipped out & Markelle Fultz being a flop, it seemed like Philly was resting its hopes on Joel Embiid. Well, now Embiid is saying he doesn’t care what team he plays for, he just wants a championship. It looks like ‘Trust the Process’ may officially be a failure soon.

Embiid's desire to win his first title is understandable. However, I've heard other rumors about him and the 76ers. There's a rumor that Embiid wants to go the way of Dirk and Kobe. In other words, he wants to stay with the 76ers for his entire career and win a title in Philadelphia. If that's true, then the 76ers management should think about building a really strong team before Embiid runs out of patience.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 18, 2023, 11:19:11 AM

With James harden trying to force his way out of Philly to the clippers, Ben Simmons shipped out & Markelle Fultz being a flop, it seemed like Philly was resting its hopes on Joel Embiid. Well, now Embiid is saying he doesn’t care what team he plays for, he just wants a championship. It looks like ‘Trust the Process’ may officially be a failure soon.

I guess him winning the MVP might have change his thought process. And probably he see what happen to other passed MVP, it's just a individual accolade and the most important thing is to really winning a ring.

Specially those who played in a team in the last couple of years. KCP for example has won 2 ring in the last 3 years. First with the Lakers and recently with the Nuggets. He doesn't have MVP or something, but winning 2 NBA rings is a bigger achievement in my opinion.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 18, 2023, 11:19:11 AM

With James harden trying to force his way out of Philly to the clippers, Ben Simmons shipped out & Markelle Fultz being a flop, it seemed like Philly was resting its hopes on Joel Embiid. Well, now Embiid is saying he doesn’t care what team he plays for, he just wants a championship. It looks like ‘Trust the Process’ may officially be a failure soon.

I thought the process was already over after the Simmons trade. He already has MVP attached to his name so it's understandable that the only thing left is winning the championship. I won't be surprised if he asked for a trade too just to get that ring. He doesn't strike me as a loyal and persistent player like Giannis.

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With James harden trying to force his way out of Philly to the clippers, Ben Simmons shipped out & Markelle Fultz being a flop, it seemed like Philly was resting its hopes on Joel Embiid. Well, now Embiid is saying he doesn’t care what team he plays for, he just wants a championship. It looks like ‘Trust the Process’ may officially be a failure soon.

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Quote from: Marvell1 on July 18, 2023, 05:19:34 AM

Quote from: blockman on July 17, 2023, 05:47:46 PM

Change is constant and that's why we're seeing the meta from these NBA teams are also changing. These tall players have been changing rounds and making it that the game has been changed already. But we've seen players like Yao Ming before and it's always been there but with just some added features from the tall players today and one of it is shooting. Although not all of them can have that feature that everybody wants because it will sacrifice some attributes like speed which is very common. And I agree to you that not at all times, the meta will always be working for these teams.

With tall players, there is another problem. Sometimes they are not workaholics. Just imagine someone like Shaq O’Neal having the work ethic like Kobe Bryant. Shaq O’Neal would have been the best in the world without a doubt. I don’t think anyone can question the greatness of him. But still, he could have done better with a better work ethic.

It's on them whatever type of workout and if they're workaholics. One thing for sure is that they've got their own motivations to work and train harder.

Quote from: Marvell1 on July 18, 2023, 05:19:34 AM

I don’t like players who are very tall, but skinny build. I personally believe that they have a bigger chance of getting injured. If tall players are medium build and powerful, I don’t have any problems. But some players like Bol Bol can actually get injured easily in my opinion. And it will be more problematic towards the later stages of his career.

The first impression of many with tall yet skinny is that they're unhealthy and can easily be beaten by bigger guys. But it is that the game is changing and the style of playing basketball especially in the NBA have been improving and upgrading. Tall guys are looking easy to get injured but that's part of it for every player.

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We just need to wait. Once the season begins, we will see those teams to play and who are the ones who improve the most.

There's no question about the Nuggets, as they have already proven themselves to be a great team by winning the championship. Honestly, I believe that their chemistry is strong enough for them to win back-to-back championships. The only reason they would lose that chance is if Murray or Jokic were to be injured, as they are the most consistent players on the team.

Since the beginning of the season the Nuggets have looked very prominent and have managed to become the strongest team in the west with the wins they always get.
Already Nuggets should have won this season and anyone who has been following NBA developments would have guessed midway through the season that the Nuggets have the biggest chance of winning.
Murray or Jokic has been one of the core players for the Nuggets and indeed on the second night of back-to-back sets they were rested by the Nuggets due to an injury.

But they weren't predicted to be the best team in the NBA before the playoffs.

If we review the 2022-2023 championship odds, the Nuggets are listed at +1800 to win the championship.

You can check the list here ; https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nba/nba-odds-every-teams-2022-2023-championship-title-futures

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