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July 20, 2023, 02:30:50 AM
Embiid has not shown any interest in leaving the team thus far, but there are rumors of his teammates, like James Harden, wanting a trade. In this situation, it might be worth considering trading Harden, as he hasn't performed at his best with the team. Embiid is the franchise player and team captain, so the focus should be on surrounding him with capable players who will commit to the system. Additionally, having a coach with a championship mentality is crucial for their success.
He might not shown his intentions directly, but thru his words, you can clearly that he is willing to get out of Philly and go to a championship contender team. Philly though has surrounded him with good players like a prime Ben, before the breakdown, and we have seen them getting closer, if not for that heart breaking lost to the Raptors lead by Kawhi. And now that Harden's want to leave, then it will be Embiid job again and it might be very difficult to him because he need another good A-caliber player to help him.
Embiid looks quite happy where he is, even if they do not end up getting a championship, that doesn't mean he has to be upset there, sure he will of course want to be a big star there but that doesn't mean that he is going to ask for a trade.
I'm not sure if you heard what Joel said, let me quote it for you,

We need to wait and see, if he does want to get traded, there aren't that many teams that lack center position and could content, because last years finalists had Jokic and Adebayo, and they won't give those players up, which leaves like maybe Lakers and maybe Warriors, those are the only ones I can see at the moment that could want him there and it should not be that weird for them to get him, but who are they going to trade for in that case? Sixers can't get anyone in that case.
Maybe not this year or this season, but perhaps we will see how everything goes for them at the start. James Harden had ask for a trade already and Sixers management are working on it. So time is not on the side of Sixers if they want Embiid to stay. They need to get another player as I have said to compliment his style of play and win at least 1 ring when Joel is still in his prime.
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July 20, 2023, 01:28:37 AM
With James harden trying to force his way out of Philly to the clippers, Ben Simmons shipped out & Markelle Fultz being a flop, it seemed like Philly was resting its hopes on Joel Embiid. Well, now Embiid is saying he doesn’t care what team he plays for, he just wants a championship. It looks like ‘Trust the Process’ may officially be a failure soon.

Embiid's desire to win his first title is understandable. However, I've heard other rumors about him and the 76ers. There's a rumor that Embiid wants to go the way of Dirk and Kobe. In other words, he wants to stay with the 76ers for his entire career and win a title in Philadelphia. If that's true, then the 76ers management should think about building a really strong team before Embiid runs out of patience.

To be honest, Joel Embiid doesn't strike me as a loyal type of player who will play and retire as a 76ers until his time is up.

In the next few years, there is a huge chance that he might start and ask for a trade if there's no improvement within the roster because he's more of a player who will seek a team that has more chances of winning a championship title instead of staying on a team and be like Kobe and Dirk regardless of what will be the result at every end of the season.

Dirk was actually more loyal IMO after all those years they failed to win a championship and still stayed until they get it in 2011. Kobe on the other hand was lucky to have every player they had in their roster compliments perfectly with each other. After Shaq left, he got Pau, Lamar, Artest and couple of other role players that was very effective in their rotation. We don't even know what Kobe's next move if none of those have worked for them. Don't get me wrong I am not hating on late Kobe Bryant, I was just stating some possible scenarios, because it only takes extraordinary kind of loyalty to stay on a losing team while wasting away your talent and retire without getting a single ring.
But you're not wrong though, Embiid is most likely going to become the Lillard 2.0 who will demand a trade if he thinks he did not get enough help and the management are not helping him. Otherwise, he'll opt out when he hits free agency.
Also, KD is actually over-doing it, so that kind of hurt his legacy LOLOL!
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July 19, 2023, 11:53:30 PM
It’s a sign that the players are being paid too much money in my opinion. This is why we keep seeing super teams popping up. Players taking less money to team up used to be honorable, but now they are all making so much money that people are praising star players for only taking 35-40 million dollars per year to help their team. Not to mention endorsements make up a big part of their income and they get more endorsements with championships under their belt.
They already know there's a lot of money coming in, so they take advantage of it. I don't think we will see another team who are paid less but can win a championship. Owners today don't even care about luxury tax anymore. They must be making more even if they need to pay that amount. It's business as usual but I am kind of curious how they can still make profits despite building a super team. Maybe a year or more we will see a player making $100 per year and it won't even be surprising anymore.
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July 19, 2023, 11:04:05 PM
That's what other teams trying to scout for these tall and skinny players. They're looking for the next KD and with that speed and athleticism that he's got, who knows that in the future with all of these tall rookies that are playing is going to be the next one.
It has just become a trend when Wemby was taking all of the spotlight and that's a lot for him to absorb. So, even though there have been other better prospects that are lowkey, still, this trend has never stopped until now. But we shall see the pulse of the majority when the games have started and we'll see how these type of players play and if they're going to do well or not. That's what many fans are waiting for to see.
Fans doesn't engaged much in body structure, exceptionally in the case where the player is consistent and keep an outstanding performance. Tall players are more prone to be insecure on the court, and they are more likely to sustain injuries during games, particularly the tough ones. Furthermore, not all coaches desire slender athletes; some have the strength to play the game, but their body structure will simply make them appear weaker and more vulnerable to their opponents, who are hugh. In the case of LeBron James, he's one of the biggest names in the game, and his powerful physique sends a clear message that he's ready to play in any game-specific style.
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July 19, 2023, 09:44:19 PM
With James harden trying to force his way out of Philly to the clippers, Ben Simmons shipped out & Markelle Fultz being a flop, it seemed like Philly was resting its hopes on Joel Embiid. Well, now Embiid is saying he doesn’t care what team he plays for, he just wants a championship. It looks like ‘Trust the Process’ may officially be a failure soon.

Embiid's desire to win his first title is understandable. However, I've heard other rumors about him and the 76ers. There's a rumor that Embiid wants to go the way of Dirk and Kobe. In other words, he wants to stay with the 76ers for his entire career and win a title in Philadelphia. If that's true, then the 76ers management should think about building a really strong team before Embiid runs out of patience.

These words were also said for Damian Lillard. We know what the situation is now.
If they can't win the championship he leaves the team, it's that simple, because such players left their teams.
It's a decision between LOYALTY and CHAMPIONSHIP.
It's a decision whether you will stay loyal to your team even though you aren't winning at title, or you go to another team in order to have a higher chance to win at a title.

Embiid has trust with the front office of Philly that's why he chooses to stay with the Sixers. On the other hand, it seems like Harden really wants to be out with the team, so I just hope that the players that Philly will get in exchange will be a good fit for Embiid. His statement regarding him staying with the Sixers will change in 3-4 years or even in 1-2 years depending on the situation of the team. I don't believe in loyalty though I've seen players who stayed with their team, and won a title like the late Kobe, Dirk, and Haslem to name a few, and this is what Embiid is believing in.

Lillard also said the same thing, but it seems like the team got worsen, and worsen to the point that he can't take it anymore thus, requested a trade to the Heat. Cheesy
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July 19, 2023, 07:36:42 PM
With James harden trying to force his way out of Philly to the clippers, Ben Simmons shipped out & Markelle Fultz being a flop, it seemed like Philly was resting its hopes on Joel Embiid. Well, now Embiid is saying he doesn’t care what team he plays for, he just wants a championship. It looks like ‘Trust the Process’ may officially be a failure soon.

Embiid's desire to win his first title is understandable. However, I've heard other rumors about him and the 76ers. There's a rumor that Embiid wants to go the way of Dirk and Kobe. In other words, he wants to stay with the 76ers for his entire career and win a title in Philadelphia. If that's true, then the 76ers management should think about building a really strong team before Embiid runs out of patience.

These words were also said for Damian Lillard. We know what the situation is now.
If they can't win the championship he leaves the team, it's that simple, because such players left their teams.
I get where these folks are coming from. Chips are important to these elite players, especially because they are over 30 years old and desperately desire one before retiring. Aside from the salary, it appears to be their first priority. That is why they are always changing teams and collaborating with other superstars, the same with other franchises.

It’s a sign that the players are being paid too much money in my opinion. This is why we keep seeing super teams popping up. Players taking less money to team up used to be honorable, but now they are all making so much money that people are praising star players for only taking 35-40 million dollars per year to help their team. Not to mention endorsements make up a big part of their income and they get more endorsements with championships under their belt.
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July 19, 2023, 07:36:01 PM
I don’t like players who are very tall, but skinny build. I personally believe that they have a bigger chance of getting injured. If tall players are medium build and powerful, I don’t have any problems. But some players like Bol Bol can actually get injured easily in my opinion. And it will be more problematic towards the later stages of his career.
The first impression of many with tall yet skinny is that they're unhealthy and can easily be beaten by bigger guys. But it is that the game is changing and the style of playing basketball especially in the NBA have been improving and upgrading. Tall guys are looking easy to get injured but that's part of it for every player.

Yes, Tall but slim player who will be placed at the number 5 position might suffer from an injury,

Or they mostly be taken as liable for the team, as the player will go on one on one and try to demolish them using
the upper body strength and get an easy two plus a foul.

It's had competition for those kind of body shapes, though if you can play like KD where skills sets are really
amazing, your space inside the NBA will be wide.
That's what other teams trying to scout for these tall and skinny players. They're looking for the next KD and with that speed and athleticism that he's got, who knows that in the future with all of these tall rookies that are playing is going to be the next one.
It has just become a trend when Wemby was taking all of the spotlight and that's a lot for him to absorb. So, even though there have been other better prospects that are lowkey, still, this trend has never stopped until now. But we shall see the pulse of the majority when the games have started and we'll see how these type of players play and if they're going to do well or not. That's what many fans are waiting for to see.
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July 19, 2023, 07:24:45 PM
With James harden trying to force his way out of Philly to the clippers, Ben Simmons shipped out & Markelle Fultz being a flop, it seemed like Philly was resting its hopes on Joel Embiid. Well, now Embiid is saying he doesn’t care what team he plays for, he just wants a championship. It looks like ‘Trust the Process’ may officially be a failure soon.

Embiid's desire to win his first title is understandable. However, I've heard other rumors about him and the 76ers. There's a rumor that Embiid wants to go the way of Dirk and Kobe. In other words, he wants to stay with the 76ers for his entire career and win a title in Philadelphia. If that's true, then the 76ers management should think about building a really strong team before Embiid runs out of patience.

These words were also said for Damian Lillard. We know what the situation is now.
If they can't win the championship he leaves the team, it's that simple, because such players left their teams.
I get where these folks are coming from. Chips are important to these elite players, especially because they are over 30 years old and desperately desire one before retiring. Aside from the salary, it appears to be their first priority. That is why they are always changing teams and collaborating with other superstars, the same with other franchises.
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July 19, 2023, 06:20:30 PM
With James harden trying to force his way out of Philly to the clippers, Ben Simmons shipped out & Markelle Fultz being a flop, it seemed like Philly was resting its hopes on Joel Embiid. Well, now Embiid is saying he doesn’t care what team he plays for, he just wants a championship. It looks like ‘Trust the Process’ may officially be a failure soon.

Embiid's desire to win his first title is understandable. However, I've heard other rumors about him and the 76ers. There's a rumor that Embiid wants to go the way of Dirk and Kobe. In other words, he wants to stay with the 76ers for his entire career and win a title in Philadelphia. If that's true, then the 76ers management should think about building a really strong team before Embiid runs out of patience.

These words were also said for Damian Lillard. We know what the situation is now.
If they can't win the championship he leaves the team, it's that simple, because such players left their teams.
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July 19, 2023, 05:38:23 PM
I actually believe Derrick Rose is still a decent performer. But he is 33. And after two years, he is going to be 35. So it is not going to be surprising at all if he does end up retiring at that time. And I think he will get decent play time considering his age. I also think that he will actually be reliable. At least he will show good performance when he is given play time. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think not many people are going to actually complain about his performance at this age in my opinion.


He still has some gas in the tank I think but I doubt he got signed for his basketball skills. Of course he can still give you some numbers from the bench but he will more likely be used as a mentor for Ja Morant. I mean they are both playing PG and since he is a veteran and Ja has a lot of problems off the court he can give him some valuable insights how to be a professional and also act like one.

The Grizzlies surely have a mentality problem, that's why they developed into the most hated team last season. With Brooks gone and a good mentor on the team maybe they can shake of that reputation.

Rose was pretty good early in his career, and I think now he could have been a GOAT and future Hall of Fame member if that ACL injury hadn't happened. As for the trade, I think the Grizzlies signed him primarily because he can be useful to them on the court since Morant will miss a lot of games next season, not to be Morant's mentor and babysit him.

Rose definitely would have been an alltime great if for not that knee busting loose on him.  Dude was amazing to watch when he was young, fearless which I guess was his downfall.  But in terms of skills he definitely has it in him to run 20 minutes on court.  I'm a knicks fan and he just wasn't in thibs rotation that's all.  Knicks went with a 9 man rotation and he was on the outside looking in just like Fournier was.
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July 19, 2023, 04:59:39 PM
I actually believe Derrick Rose is still a decent performer. But he is 33. And after two years, he is going to be 35. So it is not going to be surprising at all if he does end up retiring at that time. And I think he will get decent play time considering his age. I also think that he will actually be reliable. At least he will show good performance when he is given play time. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think not many people are going to actually complain about his performance at this age in my opinion.


He still has some gas in the tank I think but I doubt he got signed for his basketball skills. Of course he can still give you some numbers from the bench but he will more likely be used as a mentor for Ja Morant. I mean they are both playing PG and since he is a veteran and Ja has a lot of problems off the court he can give him some valuable insights how to be a professional and also act like one.

The Grizzlies surely have a mentality problem, that's why they developed into the most hated team last season. With Brooks gone and a good mentor on the team maybe they can shake of that reputation.

Rose was pretty good early in his career, and I think now he could have been a GOAT and future Hall of Fame member if that ACL injury hadn't happened. As for the trade, I think the Grizzlies signed him primarily because he can be useful to them on the court since Morant will miss a lot of games next season, not to be Morant's mentor and babysit him.
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July 19, 2023, 04:31:21 PM
Tbh, I'd still have the Nuggets over the current Suns rosters. My views would change in mid season whether or not the Suns had an upgrade or just the same.
While too many talks about the rumors and biggest contracts, people are forgetting that the Nuggets are still Nuggets and they can still be this upcoming season's top team. But yes, that's likely to change when we see what happens to them in the mid-season. Because from there, it's going to be visible whether they're still dominating and they're likely to get into the playoffs. Although some of them have already been traded and gone out of the team but the entire major players are still intact.

No one would forget what the Nuggets did last season; it's just that they aren't a superteam, so the hype isn't really that big. Actually, there are still plenty of fans who believe the Nuggets won't repeat. This poses a challenge for them, and considering how humble this team is, they surely won't be complacent. Instead, they will work to improve their weaknesses.
It's a different marketing as well from the league because they're not as big as the other teams and the hype isn't there. If there are fans that do think they won't be able to make a repeat, that's okay. They even have got those before they win a ring. That's a normal mindset for them to have people that doubts them but that's not going to stop them from working harder this time to maintain the title on their position and they've got more confidence now.
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July 19, 2023, 02:30:54 PM
I just found out that Derrick Rose signed a two-year deal with the Grizzlies that's worth $6.5 million. Third or fourth choice perhaps behind Marcus Smart and Luke Kennard but he'll get more minutes for the early part of next season while Ja Morant is still suspended. He'll probably retire after this.

I actually believe Derrick Rose is still a decent performer. But he is 33. And after two years, he is going to be 35. So it is not going to be surprising at all if he does end up retiring at that time. And I think he will get decent play time considering his age. I also think that he will actually be reliable. At least he will show good performance when he is given play time. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think not many people are going to actually complain about his performance at this age in my opinion.


He still has some gas in the tank I think but I doubt he got signed for his basketball skills. Of course he can still give you some numbers from the bench but he will more likely be used as a mentor for Ja Morant. I mean they are both playing PG and since he is a veteran and Ja has a lot of problems off the court he can give him some valuable insights how to be a professional and also act like one.

The Grizzlies surely have a mentality problem, that's why they developed into the most hated team last season. With Brooks gone and a good mentor on the team maybe they can shake of that reputation.

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July 19, 2023, 02:28:10 PM
Embiid has not shown any interest in leaving the team thus far, but there are rumors of his teammates, like James Harden, wanting a trade. In this situation, it might be worth considering trading Harden, as he hasn't performed at his best with the team. Embiid is the franchise player and team captain, so the focus should be on surrounding him with capable players who will commit to the system. Additionally, having a coach with a championship mentality is crucial for their success.
He might not shown his intentions directly, but thru his words, you can clearly that he is willing to get out of Philly and go to a championship contender team. Philly though has surrounded him with good players like a prime Ben, before the breakdown, and we have seen them getting closer, if not for that heart breaking lost to the Raptors lead by Kawhi. And now that Harden's want to leave, then it will be Embiid job again and it might be very difficult to him because he need another good A-caliber player to help him.
Embiid looks quite happy where he is, even if they do not end up getting a championship, that doesn't mean he has to be upset there, sure he will of course want to be a big star there but that doesn't mean that he is going to ask for a trade.

We need to wait and see, if he does want to get traded, there aren't that many teams that lack center position and could content, because last years finalists had Jokic and Adebayo, and they won't give those players up, which leaves like maybe Lakers and maybe Warriors, those are the only ones I can see at the moment that could want him there and it should not be that weird for them to get him, but who are they going to trade for in that case? Sixers can't get anyone in that case.
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July 19, 2023, 01:25:14 PM
I just found out that Derrick Rose signed a two-year deal with the Grizzlies that's worth $6.5 million. Third or fourth choice perhaps behind Marcus Smart and Luke Kennard but he'll get more minutes for the early part of next season while Ja Morant is still suspended. He'll probably retire after this.

I actually believe Derrick Rose is still a decent performer. But he is 33. And after two years, he is going to be 35. So it is not going to be surprising at all if he does end up retiring at that time. And I think he will get decent play time considering his age. I also think that he will actually be reliable. At least he will show good performance when he is given play time. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think not many people are going to actually complain about his performance at this age in my opinion.
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July 19, 2023, 12:23:00 PM
With James harden trying to force his way out of Philly to the clippers, Ben Simmons shipped out & Markelle Fultz being a flop, it seemed like Philly was resting its hopes on Joel Embiid. Well, now Embiid is saying he doesn’t care what team he plays for, he just wants a championship. It looks like ‘Trust the Process’ may officially be a failure soon.

Embiid's desire to win his first title is understandable. However, I've heard other rumors about him and the 76ers. There's a rumor that Embiid wants to go the way of Dirk and Kobe. In other words, he wants to stay with the 76ers for his entire career and win a title in Philadelphia. If that's true, then the 76ers management should think about building a really strong team before Embiid runs out of patience.

To be honest, Joel Embiid doesn't strike me as a loyal type of player who will play and retire as a 76ers until his time is up.

In the next few years, there is a huge chance that he might start and ask for a trade if there's no improvement within the roster because he's more of a player who will seek a team that has more chances of winning a championship title instead of staying on a team and be like Kobe and Dirk regardless of what will be the result at every end of the season.
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July 19, 2023, 11:37:25 AM
If that's what the Chicago Bulls were thinking, they should think more deeper. Both Lillard and Harden won't gonna help them win a championship. Yes, they're a great offensive player, but not as much defensively plus either of them will mess up the team chemistry.
Trading away Lavine will be their first mistake if that happens.  Instead they should focus on getting a legitimate big man and a spot up shooters who can also play defense, to add more depth to their current roster. Trading away one of their key players will not going to help them win a chip.
That's right. They now have two of the most offensive player in the league and they are building chemistry. Why put another player and start all over again?
They actually have a good big man at Vuc, but he has no backup, foul trouble had always been his problem because he cannot do it all. A power forward slash center is what they need and a point guard just to cover for Lonzo Ball in the meantime, for this season actually. They ain't a bad team they are just undermanned. They lack defensive players and they lack backup players who would fill the shoes of those offensive players whenever they try to rest.

I just found out that Derrick Rose signed a two-year deal with the Grizzlies that's worth $6.5 million. Third or fourth choice perhaps behind Marcus Smart and Luke Kennard but he'll get more minutes for the early part of next season while Ja Morant is still suspended. He'll probably retire after this.
Veterans contract. That's it for him. We might just see him during garbage time, sadly. At least he can still get some money. But, what a big waste because of injuries. I feel bad for him but that is how sports is.
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July 19, 2023, 11:29:05 AM
I just found out that Derrick Rose signed a two-year deal with the Grizzlies that's worth $6.5 million. Third or fourth choice perhaps behind Marcus Smart and Luke Kennard but he'll get more minutes for the early part of next season while Ja Morant is still suspended. He'll probably retire after this.
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July 19, 2023, 11:15:25 AM
He might not shown his intentions directly, but thru his words, you can clearly that he is willing to get out of Philly and go to a championship contender team. Philly though has surrounded him with good players like a prime Ben, before the breakdown, and we have seen them getting closer, if not for that heart breaking lost to the Raptors lead by Kawhi. And now that Harden's want to leave, then it will be Embiid job again and it might be very difficult to him because he need another good A-caliber player to help him.

Clearly, Embiid is not enough to bring the 76ers into the championship because he already proved that the job is too much for him, and the farthest place they go was only the Eastern Conference finals, They can't even get to the NBA finals these past few years. that's why they really need to work on their rosters to effectively improve, not just gonna randomly sign or trade star players that are not even interested to have the same goal as them. In other words, it's really nice for them to take out James Harden since he hasn't been effective in the last season and it could be worse if they don't make any move.

Prime Ben was not enough but if only this guy developed into something more than he was maybe they remained a serious contender in the following years. Harden is not in his prime anymore but I won't call his years in Philly ineffective, it's just that there are a lot of super teams in the NBA nowadays. If Harden would've remained in Philly then they are still a threat in the East.

The Boston Celtics is an example of a super team already yet it continues to grind hard in the market looking for openings and opportunities. Although I still prefer teams that are not star-studded but have enough role players like the Denver Nuggets.   
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July 19, 2023, 09:55:53 AM
He might not shown his intentions directly, but thru his words, you can clearly that he is willing to get out of Philly and go to a championship contender team. Philly though has surrounded him with good players like a prime Ben, before the breakdown, and we have seen them getting closer, if not for that heart breaking lost to the Raptors lead by Kawhi. And now that Harden's want to leave, then it will be Embiid job again and it might be very difficult to him because he need another good A-caliber player to help him.

Clearly, Embiid is not enough to bring the 76ers into the championship because he already proved that the job is too much for him, and the farthest place they go was only the Eastern Conference finals, They can't even get to the NBA finals these past few years. that's why they really need to work on their rosters to effectively improve, not just gonna randomly sign or trade star players that are not even interested to have the same goal as them. In other words, it's really nice for them to take out James Harden since he hasn't been effective in the last season and it could be worse if they don't make any move.
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