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Quote from: fuguebtc on July 20, 2023, 10:03:17 AM

Quote from: Natalim on July 20, 2023, 07:49:52 AM

Holiday for Harden, that's a bad idea because Holiday plays at both ends of the floor, unlike Harden, who does not play good defense. When the Bucks won a championship, I believe Holiday was one of the big reasons why it happened. So, I don't think it's necessary to break up their lineup just because they had an early exit last playoffs. I believe it's part of the game, and they just have to continue developing their chemistry as they are still considered a championship team.

Well honestly, both options can be explored. They can break up the team because probably if they bring in a new player he will be able to do well with the team and the team might also have a better chemistry with the new player.

But at the same time, I believe it might actually be better if they do not break up the team. Of course, there can be one bad season. But I think they should try again and not lose hope so early. It is not going to be a bad idea for them to try to continue improving the chemistry between the team without changing players. But of course, we are not the ones in charge. Let’s see what they do.

It's okay to break up the 76ers, but not the Bucks. The Bucks are still intact as the team that has won a championship, while the 76ers have not even reached the NBA Finals yet. Harden is probably looking for a team that could bring him a championship, and he thinks joining the Clippers, which will have 4 superstars, would give him that chance.

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Quote from: Pamadar on July 20, 2023, 06:48:27 AM

If the bucks is willing to break the chemistry and wanted to re-arrange their system, then it might work out.

But in terms of individuality, I still pick Jrue over Harden, more on a 2-way role player who can shoot and play good defense is
how I'm gonna describe Jrue, while Harden, more on individual stats though there's a slight change since he's more in a passing
type now, but in terms of defense, that's what he's missing, as per my opinion.

There's no need for the Bucks to fix their championship roster rather they just need to add some backup or sign some rookies that could effectively help them get to the finals again. As for James Harden, he is good to leave the 76ers as soon as possible so that he can be used to the way of his new teammates and create strong chemistry with them before the start of the season so that they won't suffer some early losing streaks and having a hard time to catch to the number 8 seeds of the NBA playoffs.

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Quote from: Natalim on July 20, 2023, 07:49:52 AM

Holiday for Harden, that's a bad idea because Holiday plays at both ends of the floor, unlike Harden, who does not play good defense. When the Bucks won a championship, I believe Holiday was one of the big reasons why it happened. So, I don't think it's necessary to break up their lineup just because they had an early exit last playoffs. I believe it's part of the game, and they just have to continue developing their chemistry as they are still considered a championship team.

Well honestly, both options can be explored. They can break up the team because probably if they bring in a new player he will be able to do well with the team and the team might also have a better chemistry with the new player.

But at the same time, I believe it might actually be better if they do not break up the team. Of course, there can be one bad season. But I think they should try again and not lose hope so early. It is not going to be a bad idea for them to try to continue improving the chemistry between the team without changing players. But of course, we are not the ones in charge. Let’s see what they do.

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Quote from: blockman on July 20, 2023, 09:11:31 AM

He's different and has a different approach towards his body, he invests a lot on it and if every player is getting a huge contract as his. Then, for sure that they'll also the same self care with their bodies and will invest $1M on it yearly.

LeBron is a good example because, despite being an exceptional player, he still ensures to take care of his body. You can really tell that he is a disciplined man, unlike other superstars who love to party and enjoy their fortunes made in the NBA, which can lead them to forget about their future. At Lebron's age now, he still a decent player who could easily average a double double, so I'm sure he'll stay for awhile.

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Quote from: borovichok on July 19, 2023, 11:04:05 PM

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That's what other teams trying to scout for these tall and skinny players. They're looking for the next KD and with that speed and athleticism that he's got, who knows that in the future with all of these tall rookies that are playing is going to be the next one.
It has just become a trend when Wemby was taking all of the spotlight and that's a lot for him to absorb. So, even though there have been other better prospects that are lowkey, still, this trend has never stopped until now. But we shall see the pulse of the majority when the games have started and we'll see how these type of players play and if they're going to do well or not. That's what many fans are waiting for to see.

Fans doesn't engaged much in body structure, exceptionally in the case where the player is consistent and keep an outstanding performance. Tall players are more prone to be insecure on the court, and they are more likely to sustain injuries during games, particularly the tough ones. Furthermore, not all coaches desire slender athletes; some have the strength to play the game, but their body structure will simply make them appear weaker and more vulnerable to their opponents, who are hugh.

It is true that tall players are prone to injuries but if you're going to recall all types of players in the league, it is everyone tall or short that can be prone to injuries. That cannot be denied because all of them are committed to the game and that's what they're paid for, to play with whole their might and strength but coming to the point that they're being injured, that's always part of the game.

Quote from: borovichok on July 19, 2023, 11:04:05 PM

In the case of LeBron James, he's one of the biggest names in the game, and his powerful physique sends a clear message that he's ready to play in any game-specific style.

He's different and has a different approach towards his body, he invests a lot on it and if every player is getting a huge contract as his. Then, for sure that they'll also the same self care with their bodies and will invest $1M on it yearly.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 19, 2023, 07:36:42 PM

It’s a sign that the players are being paid too much money in my opinion. This is why we keep seeing super teams popping up. Players taking less money to team up used to be honorable, but now they are all making so much money that people are praising star players for only taking 35-40 million dollars per year to help their team. Not to mention endorsements make up a big part of their income and they get more endorsements with championships under their belt.

They already know there's a lot of money coming in, so they take advantage of it. I don't think we will see another team who are paid less but can win a championship. Owners today don't even care about luxury tax anymore. They must be making more even if they need to pay that amount. It's business as usual but I am kind of curious how they can still make profits despite building a super team. Maybe a year or more we will see a player making $100 per year and it won't even be surprising anymore.

I'm also expecting to see that as it's no longer impossible after seeing those huge contracts from a young star players, I mean
some of those superstars now might demand for a better deal after the contract expires.

Giving another team to bring on the table a huge offer to try bringing them and signing them for a trade, $100M /year is really huge,
but for the team owner who wants great improvement with his team.

That amount is not by far can be offered as it can be generated back when success in chasing a title takes place.

It's the value that matters because if the $100 million in the next 5 years is equivalent in value to $50 million this year, then that would not change anything. It's only the figure, not the value. Teams may be paying a lot of money, but it's not something that will lead them to bankruptcy. At the end of the day, they are still paid more than they spend.

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Quote from: Reid on July 19, 2023, 11:53:30 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on July 19, 2023, 07:36:42 PM

It’s a sign that the players are being paid too much money in my opinion. This is why we keep seeing super teams popping up. Players taking less money to team up used to be honorable, but now they are all making so much money that people are praising star players for only taking 35-40 million dollars per year to help their team. Not to mention endorsements make up a big part of their income and they get more endorsements with championships under their belt.

They already know there's a lot of money coming in, so they take advantage of it. I don't think we will see another team who are paid less but can win a championship. Owners today don't even care about luxury tax anymore. They must be making more even if they need to pay that amount. It's business as usual but I am kind of curious how they can still make profits despite building a super team. Maybe a year or more we will see a player making $100 per year and it won't even be surprising anymore.

I'm also expecting to see that as it's no longer impossible after seeing those huge contracts from a young star players, I mean
some of those superstars now might demand for a better deal after the contract expires.

Giving another team to bring on the table a huge offer to try bringing them and signing them for a trade, $100M /year is really huge,
but for the team owner who wants great improvement with his team.

That amount is not by far can be offered as it can be generated back when success in chasing a title takes place.

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Quote from: TravelMug on July 20, 2023, 03:41:36 AM

I thought that there is a trade already involving James Harden.

Someone that I talk last night says that he is going to the Bucks in exchange of Holiday. But so far I can't find any news of it so maybe he is just playing with me. Nevertheless I'm going to see him tomorrow so I'm going to tell him that it's not true, Lol.

In any case though, do you guys think that it's a good trade for the Bucks to let go of Jrue to get Harden?

I am hearing that the only team he is actually interested in going to is the Clippers. I don't know if this news is 100% true. I think it can be a good trade for the Bucks to get Harden. Of course, they will let go of Jrue if they do that. But I still think that it might be a good idea. But there are a lot of news going around about Harden. I am just not sure about which news to trust to be honest.

Teams outside of the LA Clippers are reportedly not engaged with the Philadelphia 76ers
source: https://www.si.com/nba/clippers/news/new-update-on-james-harden-trade-saga

Holiday for Harden, that's a bad idea because Holiday plays at both ends of the floor, unlike Harden, who does not play good defense. When the Bucks won a championship, I believe Holiday was one of the big reasons why it happened. So, I don't think it's necessary to break up their lineup just because they had an early exit last playoffs. I believe it's part of the game, and they just have to continue developing their chemistry as they are still considered a championship team.

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Quote from: TravelMug on July 20, 2023, 03:41:36 AM

I thought that there is a trade already involving James Harden.

Someone that I talk last night says that he is going to the Bucks in exchange of Holiday. But so far I can't find any news of it so maybe he is just playing with me. Nevertheless I'm going to see him tomorrow so I'm going to tell him that it's not true, Lol.

In any case though, do you guys think that it's a good trade for the Bucks to let go of Jrue to get Harden?

I am hearing that the only team he is actually interested in going to is the Clippers. I don't know if this news is 100% true. I think it can be a good trade for the Bucks to get Harden. Of course, they will let go of Jrue if they do that. But I still think that it might be a good idea. But there are a lot of news going around about Harden. I am just not sure about which news to trust to be honest.

Teams outside of the LA Clippers are reportedly not engaged with the Philadelphia 76ers
source: https://www.si.com/nba/clippers/news/new-update-on-james-harden-trade-saga

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Quote from: TravelMug on July 20, 2023, 03:41:36 AM

I thought that there is a trade already involving James Harden.

Someone that I talk last night says that he is going to the Bucks in exchange of Holiday. But so far I can't find any news of it so maybe he is just playing with me. Nevertheless I'm going to see him tomorrow so I'm going to tell him that it's not true, Lol.

In any case though, do you guys think that it's a good trade for the Bucks to let go of Jrue to get Harden?

If the bucks is willing to break the chemistry and wanted to re-arrange their system, then it might work out.

But in terms of individuality, I still pick Jrue over Harden, more on a 2-way role player who can shoot and play good defense is
how I'm gonna describe Jrue, while Harden, more on individual stats though there's a slight change since he's more in a passing
type now, but in terms of defense, that's what he's missing, as per my opinion.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on July 20, 2023, 04:41:53 AM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 20, 2023, 03:15:30 AM

Noone deserves 260 million dollars max contract extension or anywhere close. People need to boycott sports honestly. The cost of a ticket is outrageous. Then add in food and drinks, parking, and any kind of memorabilia or Souvenir and you are spending nearly 200$ for a cheap seat to the game you want to watch.

It's greed on all fronts. The owners for charging the crazy prices, the players for the insane salaries they get, and the public for being dumb enough to pay it. If people stopped frequenting events and owners couldn't sell seats, maybe a reality check would happen and prices would drop. Noone needs that much money period.

I'm not saying these guys don't deserve to make a decent wage. Yea 25-50 million for 4-5 years, but 260 for 4 years is just silly. We have our priorities wrong. What about the cops who protect us? The doctors who save lives? The teachers? Ridiculous!!!!

Correct. Too much money is spent on entertainment. It's like it will be the last day of our life. Grin

I am curious about how people are getting their money and they can still watch the game even with high prices of seats, food, and drinks. Sometimes you will even see a fully packed homecourt. Are there really that many rich people today?

It's business for the NBA and the team themselves, maybe for us it's wrong to see them giving this huge money. But what if business owners in the next 4 years could net double or even triple than that? So it's a good investment for them. And I think it's a big risk but if they are willing to do that, then it's hard to question them as far as expending that big money.

And for fans, we are going to be entertained. And for the city that represents it's going to be huge for them if the player are going to bring back championships after championships.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on July 20, 2023, 04:41:53 AM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 20, 2023, 03:15:30 AM

Noone deserves 260 million dollars max contract extension or anywhere close. People need to boycott sports honestly. The cost of a ticket is outrageous. Then add in food and drinks, parking, and any kind of memorabilia or Souvenir and you are spending nearly 200$ for a cheap seat to the game you want to watch.

It's greed on all fronts. The owners for charging the crazy prices, the players for the insane salaries they get, and the public for being dumb enough to pay it. If people stopped frequenting events and owners couldn't sell seats, maybe a reality check would happen and prices would drop. Noone needs that much money period.

I'm not saying these guys don't deserve to make a decent wage. Yea 25-50 million for 4-5 years, but 260 for 4 years is just silly. We have our priorities wrong. What about the cops who protect us? The doctors who save lives? The teachers? Ridiculous!!!!

Correct. Too much money is spent on entertainment. It's like it will be the last day of our life. Grin

I am curious about how people are getting their money and they can still watch the game even with high prices of seats, food, and drinks. Sometimes you will even see a fully packed homecourt. Are there really that many rich people today?

Anyway, yes, I think the contract they give is too ridiculous. NBA should make a move too because it seems like they are not hurting any team from the luxury tax they provided to limit the number of superstars in one team. Or, are they too happy with the mountain of money coming in that's why they won't do anything? Well, it's business but it just sucks to see a lot of money being wasted for non-essential things like entertainment. I am not against it too but it is being abused.

Maybe the NBA will have to do something about it. Nevertheless, if it is going to be entertainment and money making machine then we can't stop teams from offering players that huge contract.

And NBA salary is just normal if we are going to compare it to other sports like Football for example.

So maybe that's what teams are thinking here, they can still get back that huge money from players if fans are going to watch their game because they have a superstar.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 20, 2023, 03:15:30 AM

Noone deserves 260 million dollars max contract extension or anywhere close. People need to boycott sports honestly. The cost of a ticket is outrageous. Then add in food and drinks, parking, and any kind of memorabilia or Souvenir and you are spending nearly 200$ for a cheap seat to the game you want to watch.

It's greed on all fronts. The owners for charging the crazy prices, the players for the insane salaries they get, and the public for being dumb enough to pay it. If people stopped frequenting events and owners couldn't sell seats, maybe a reality check would happen and prices would drop. Noone needs that much money period.

I'm not saying these guys don't deserve to make a decent wage. Yea 25-50 million for 4-5 years, but 260 for 4 years is just silly. We have our priorities wrong. What about the cops who protect us? The doctors who save lives? The teachers? Ridiculous!!!!

Correct. Too much money is spent on entertainment. It's like it will be the last day of our life. Grin

I am curious about how people are getting their money and they can still watch the game even with high prices of seats, food, and drinks. Sometimes you will even see a fully packed homecourt. Are there really that many rich people today?

Anyway, yes, I think the contract they give is too ridiculous. NBA should make a move too because it seems like they are not hurting any team from the luxury tax they provided to limit the number of superstars in one team. Or, are they too happy with the mountain of money coming in that's why they won't do anything? Well, it's business but it just sucks to see a lot of money being wasted for non-essential things like entertainment. I am not against it too but it is being abused.

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I thought that there is a trade already involving James Harden.

Someone that I talk last night says that he is going to the Bucks in exchange of Holiday. But so far I can't find any news of it so maybe he is just playing with me. Nevertheless I'm going to see him tomorrow so I'm going to tell him that it's not true, Lol.

In any case though, do you guys think that it's a good trade for the Bucks to let go of Jrue to get Harden?

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 19, 2023, 07:36:42 PM

It’s a sign that the players are being paid too much money in my opinion. This is why we keep seeing super teams popping up. Players taking less money to team up used to be honorable, but now they are all making so much money that people are praising star players for only taking 35-40 million dollars per year to help their team. Not to mention endorsements make up a big part of their income and they get more endorsements with championships under their belt.

They already know there's a lot of money coming in, so they take advantage of it. I don't think we will see another team who are paid less but can win a championship. Owners today don't even care about luxury tax anymore. They must be making more even if they need to pay that amount. It's business as usual but I am kind of curious how they can still make profits despite building a super team. Maybe a year or more we will see a player making $100 per year and it won't even be surprising anymore.

It's sports and there are freak athletes and I think they deserved a good pay if they really had that talent and teams are willing to shell out millions of dollar to get that player and hope that it will help them win championships ring.

And as we can see as well, high school and college players are dreaming of this kind of contract that's why they try to play hard and show their true potential because one day they could be in the NBA with a good amount of contract and obviously their lives can change to the better.

Noone deserves 260 million dollars max contract extension or anywhere close. People need to boycott sports honestly. The cost of a ticket is outrageous. Then add in food and drinks, parking, and any kind of memorabilia or Souvenir and you are spending nearly 200$ for a cheap seat to the game you want to watch.

It's greed on all fronts. The owners for charging the crazy prices, the players for the insane salaries they get, and the public for being dumb enough to pay it. If people stopped frequenting events and owners couldn't sell seats, maybe a reality check would happen and prices would drop. Noone needs that much money period.

I'm not saying these guys don't deserve to make a decent wage. Yea 25-50 million for 4-5 years, but 260 for 4 years is just silly. We have our priorities wrong. What about the cops who protect us? The doctors who save lives? The teachers? Ridiculous!!!!

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Quote from: Reid on July 19, 2023, 11:53:30 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on July 19, 2023, 07:36:42 PM

It’s a sign that the players are being paid too much money in my opinion. This is why we keep seeing super teams popping up. Players taking less money to team up used to be honorable, but now they are all making so much money that people are praising star players for only taking 35-40 million dollars per year to help their team. Not to mention endorsements make up a big part of their income and they get more endorsements with championships under their belt.

They already know there's a lot of money coming in, so they take advantage of it. I don't think we will see another team who are paid less but can win a championship. Owners today don't even care about luxury tax anymore. They must be making more even if they need to pay that amount. It's business as usual but I am kind of curious how they can still make profits despite building a super team. Maybe a year or more we will see a player making $100 per year and it won't even be surprising anymore.

It's sports and there are freak athletes and I think they deserved a good pay if they really had that talent and teams are willing to shell out millions of dollar to get that player and hope that it will help them win championships ring.

And as we can see as well, high school and college players are dreaming of this kind of contract that's why they try to play hard and show their true potential because one day they could be in the NBA with a good amount of contract and obviously their lives can change to the better.

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Embiid has not shown any interest in leaving the team thus far, but there are rumors of his teammates, like James Harden, wanting a trade. In this situation, it might be worth considering trading Harden, as he hasn't performed at his best with the team. Embiid is the franchise player and team captain, so the focus should be on surrounding him with capable players who will commit to the system. Additionally, having a coach with a championship mentality is crucial for their success.

He might not shown his intentions directly, but thru his words, you can clearly that he is willing to get out of Philly and go to a championship contender team. Philly though has surrounded him with good players like a prime Ben, before the breakdown, and we have seen them getting closer, if not for that heart breaking lost to the Raptors lead by Kawhi. And now that Harden's want to leave, then it will be Embiid job again and it might be very difficult to him because he need another good A-caliber player to help him.

Embiid looks quite happy where he is, even if they do not end up getting a championship, that doesn't mean he has to be upset there, sure he will of course want to be a big star there but that doesn't mean that he is going to ask for a trade.

I'm not sure if you heard what Joel said, let me quote it for you,

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We need to wait and see, if he does want to get traded, there aren't that many teams that lack center position and could content, because last years finalists had Jokic and Adebayo, and they won't give those players up, which leaves like maybe Lakers and maybe Warriors, those are the only ones I can see at the moment that could want him there and it should not be that weird for them to get him, but who are they going to trade for in that case? Sixers can't get anyone in that case.

Maybe not this year or this season, but perhaps we will see how everything goes for them at the start. James Harden had ask for a trade already and Sixers management are working on it. So time is not on the side of Sixers if they want Embiid to stay. They need to get another player as I have said to compliment his style of play and win at least 1 ring when Joel is still in his prime.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 18, 2023, 11:19:11 AM

With James harden trying to force his way out of Philly to the clippers, Ben Simmons shipped out & Markelle Fultz being a flop, it seemed like Philly was resting its hopes on Joel Embiid. Well, now Embiid is saying he doesn’t care what team he plays for, he just wants a championship. It looks like ‘Trust the Process’ may officially be a failure soon.

Embiid's desire to win his first title is understandable. However, I've heard other rumors about him and the 76ers. There's a rumor that Embiid wants to go the way of Dirk and Kobe. In other words, he wants to stay with the 76ers for his entire career and win a title in Philadelphia. If that's true, then the 76ers management should think about building a really strong team before Embiid runs out of patience.

To be honest, Joel Embiid doesn't strike me as a loyal type of player who will play and retire as a 76ers until his time is up.

In the next few years, there is a huge chance that he might start and ask for a trade if there's no improvement within the roster because he's more of a player who will seek a team that has more chances of winning a championship title instead of staying on a team and be like Kobe and Dirk regardless of what will be the result at every end of the season.

Dirk was actually more loyal IMO after all those years they failed to win a championship and still stayed until they get it in 2011. Kobe on the other hand was lucky to have every player they had in their roster compliments perfectly with each other. After Shaq left, he got Pau, Lamar, Artest and couple of other role players that was very effective in their rotation. We don't even know what Kobe's next move if none of those have worked for them. Don't get me wrong I am not hating on late Kobe Bryant, I was just stating some possible scenarios, because it only takes extraordinary kind of loyalty to stay on a losing team while wasting away your talent and retire without getting a single ring.
But you're not wrong though, Embiid is most likely going to become the Lillard 2.0 who will demand a trade if he thinks he did not get enough help and the management are not helping him. Otherwise, he'll opt out when he hits free agency.
Also, KD is actually over-doing it, so that kind of hurt his legacy LOLOL!

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 19, 2023, 07:36:42 PM

It’s a sign that the players are being paid too much money in my opinion. This is why we keep seeing super teams popping up. Players taking less money to team up used to be honorable, but now they are all making so much money that people are praising star players for only taking 35-40 million dollars per year to help their team. Not to mention endorsements make up a big part of their income and they get more endorsements with championships under their belt.

They already know there's a lot of money coming in, so they take advantage of it. I don't think we will see another team who are paid less but can win a championship. Owners today don't even care about luxury tax anymore. They must be making more even if they need to pay that amount. It's business as usual but I am kind of curious how they can still make profits despite building a super team. Maybe a year or more we will see a player making $100 per year and it won't even be surprising anymore.

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Quote from: blockman on July 19, 2023, 07:36:01 PM

That's what other teams trying to scout for these tall and skinny players. They're looking for the next KD and with that speed and athleticism that he's got, who knows that in the future with all of these tall rookies that are playing is going to be the next one.
It has just become a trend when Wemby was taking all of the spotlight and that's a lot for him to absorb. So, even though there have been other better prospects that are lowkey, still, this trend has never stopped until now. But we shall see the pulse of the majority when the games have started and we'll see how these type of players play and if they're going to do well or not. That's what many fans are waiting for to see.

Fans doesn't engaged much in body structure, exceptionally in the case where the player is consistent and keep an outstanding performance. Tall players are more prone to be insecure on the court, and they are more likely to sustain injuries during games, particularly the tough ones. Furthermore, not all coaches desire slender athletes; some have the strength to play the game, but their body structure will simply make them appear weaker and more vulnerable to their opponents, who are hugh. In the case of LeBron James, he's one of the biggest names in the game, and his powerful physique sends a clear message that he's ready to play in any game-specific style.

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