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Quote from: OgNasty on September 05, 2023, 04:37:25 PM

I saw TMZ reporting over the holiday weekend that Draymond Green slapped a bartender at a Los Angeles restaurant after the bartender had some nasty comments to say to LeBron James. This resulted in Draymond being arrested (allegedly?). I haven’t seen this making the news rounds so maybe it isn’t true? If it is true, I wonder if Draymond will be starting the year suspended.

If he's been arrested, the solution is simple. He pays and leaves.
Draymond Green is a problematic personality, so the news may be true and I wouldn't be surprised.

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I saw TMZ reporting over the holiday weekend that Draymond Green slapped a bartender at a Los Angeles restaurant after the bartender had some nasty comments to say to LeBron James. This resulted in Draymond being arrested (allegedly?). I haven’t seen this making the news rounds so maybe it isn’t true? If it is true, I wonder if Draymond will be starting the year suspended.

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He's not a good player to trade for Giannis. There's no question that Davis is talented, but it's a big gamble for the Bucks to accept Davis because he's known to be injury-prone. While we're not hoping he will get injured, history has shown that he has been plagued by injuries most of the time. This is also the reason he was traded to the Lakers from the Pelicans.

The Bucks don't want him. PERIOD.

Can Davis be the franchise player of the Bucks? How can you put your trust into a player who's injury prone, and anytime, there's a chance that he might be out for the whole season? If healthy, he is a double-double machine, and one of the best bigs out there, but there's an "IF" on it. His performance last season is pretty well. Lesser injuries, and played well, but still there are still doubts if he can sustain to play that way knowing that he's been injured, and play only a few games for a number of years in the past.

The Bucks don't want to risk getting Davis for Giannis, and they will rather find another team that can give them better players than the Lakers. I believe those who has many draft picks are the ones that has the highest chance in getting him.

I'm curious now because, as far as I know, Giannis was rumored not to re-sign with the Bucks once he becomes a free agent. So, why are we discussing a possible trade here? I also gave my opinion about the potential trade, but now I realize that, is the trade really going to happen?

Since there are no trade rumors, all the discussions about which team could potentially land Giannis and which players would be exchanged for him don't make sense.

Perhaps the more appropriate discussion is which team could potentially sign Giannis in the upcoming offseason.

You know, it's quite funny to me that a single statement from Giannis alone has made the whole basketball community talk about a potential trade when in-fact it's not yet happening, at least for another season because he still got an existing contract with the Milwaukee Bucks. And if Giannis's target is to play while wearing the Warriors jersey, then we can already assume that he will wait until he will be in the free agency and then the Warriors can start to offer him what he wanted.

You are correct, but you just have to imagine the impact of that statement though. If you look at it, Giannis says that it's no longer loyalty for him, but championships that is every important.

And with that, the Bucks management should be nervous by know. If by chance they didn't do well this season, most likely Giannis might be thinking of joining other teams to quest for more rings in his fingers.

He is locked into a contract next year he doesn't really have a say at this point. But I get what you are saying possibly him forcing a trade saying he won't play for the Bucks anymore or something. If I'm another team I do t want those guys on my team no matter how good. Only time before they do the same thing to that team too. He will quietly play out his contract.

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Quote from: Dave1 on September 05, 2023, 05:43:12 AM

You are correct, but you just have to imagine the impact of that statement though. If you look at it, Giannis says that it's no longer loyalty for him, but championships that is every important.

And with that, the Bucks management should be nervous by know. If by chance they didn't do well this season, most likely Giannis might be thinking of joining other teams to quest for more rings in his fingers.

Also add the fact that they fired Coach Budenholzer where at that time, having a hard time coping up with his lost relative (I think it's his brother) a few days before Game 4, and now they have a new coach in AJ Griffin.

I'm not underestimating the capabilities of Coach Griffin because he's been an assistant coach for some time, but the fact that he's coaching an all-star who wants a championship right here, right now adds to the pressure for him. Well, we've seen coaches like Ty Lue, and Steve Kerr who won their first title in their rookie season as a head coach.

I know that the Bucks former coach, Budenholzer, had a tough challenge during his last run with the Bucks because his brother died where the team needs him the most, but we cannot blame the man if he wasn't that professional enough during that time because a person can never be ready when it comes to that tragedy. I'm just thinking that after what he did to the team, he surely deserved to have at least one more chance before he was fired but the Bucks at that time was in need of somebody to throw under the bus and unfortunately, Budenholzer was the man they seemed fit for it.

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Quote from: yazher on September 04, 2023, 09:44:09 AM

The Suns right now are really a good team unless they are looking for more players to increase their probability of winning a championship without taking into account the consequences it may bring. They seem a misunderstand James Harden because all they talked about was his skills and they forgot the market value he would bring to the team, I think what he can give is more of what he can take because he will be using his 100% whenever he is in the new team.

The Suns' current roster is only good on paper so far. Honestly, I'm always skeptical of teams that try to put a lot of all-star players together, especially those players who prefer to throw the ball a lot. In the Suns' case, they have Durant, who averages 29 points per game, Booker, who averages 27 points, and Beal, who averages 23 points per game. According to my observations, such players prefer to improve their personal stats rather than team results, and this entails a conflict of interest because they cannot share the ball on the court, and they can't give in to each other in certain ways.

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James Harden's stats are still fine; he averaged 21 PPG last season. However, we didn't see a significant impact on the team, which is why we are a bit frustrated with him.

His PPG is significantly drop compared when he is on prime during his rockets days. His FG% is still averaging 44% which is same from before but his scoring potential drops significantly. This is important factor to be considered since this guy is known for no defense at all since his defense is his offense before.

He needs to step up with 76ers now that he already have Embiid that can penetrate inside easily.

It's hard for him to adjust anymore specially when he's already used to be the main alpha who does anything he wanted and so he doesn't want to be a second option when there are already younger stars in the team that's why in the end, he's asking for a trade because he cannot do what he wanted anymore. We know that he can still do the job just fine but the league has changed and that means that he does need to. If he got some problems about the reality then that means that the rings are not for him.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on September 05, 2023, 07:20:42 AM

When he will be a free agent? Not next year, but the year after.

After this season, he will have a player option. He can opt out on it, then find another team, or stay with the Bucks, and opt in. It will all depend on their performance this upcoming season.

Is the trade really going to happen? Not this season, but after the season depending on the performance of the team. Well, like you said, there will be no trades that're happening this upcoming season, so I guess it's too early to tell which teams he will land. It's just that, the statement that he just said to the media is that powerful that many teams are interested in him already even though he isn't eligible to be traded... for now.

Yes, he will become a free agent in 2026, so there's still time for the Bucks to try to convince Giannis to change his mind. A strong performance next season could likely help Giannis achieve his goal. If the Bucks win a championship, there's no reason for Giannis to consider playing for another team. Therefore, the management needs to ensure they have a good coach who can help the team improve.

With a new coach in place, the upcoming season becomes crucial.

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Quote from: Dave1 on September 05, 2023, 05:43:12 AM

You are correct, but you just have to imagine the impact of that statement though. If you look at it, Giannis says that it's no longer loyalty for him, but championships that is every important.

And with that, the Bucks management should be nervous by know. If by chance they didn't do well this season, most likely Giannis might be thinking of joining other teams to quest for more rings in his fingers.

Also add the fact that they fired Coach Budenholzer where at that time, having a hard time coping up with his lost relative (I think it's his brother) a few days before Game 4, and now they have a new coach in AJ Griffin.

I'm not underestimating the capabilities of Coach Griffin because he's been an assistant coach for some time, but the fact that he's coaching an all-star who wants a championship right here, right now adds to the pressure for him. Well, we've seen coaches like Ty Lue, and Steve Kerr who won their first title in their rookie season as a head coach.

Quote from: Distinctin on September 04, 2023, 03:15:03 AM

I'm curious now because, as far as I know, Giannis was rumored not to re-sign with the Bucks once he becomes a free agent. So, why are we discussing a possible trade here? I also gave my opinion about the potential trade, but now I realize that, is the trade really going to happen?

Since there are no trade rumors, all the discussions about which team could potentially land Giannis and which players would be exchanged for him don't make sense.

Perhaps the more appropriate discussion is which team could potentially sign Giannis in the upcoming offseason.

When he will be a free agent? Not next year, but the year after.

After this season, he will have a player option. He can opt out on it, then find another team, or stay with the Bucks, and opt in. It will all depend on their performance this upcoming season.

Is the trade really going to happen? Not this season, but after the season depending on the performance of the team. Well, like you said, there will be no trades that're happening this upcoming season, so I guess it's too early to tell which teams he will land. It's just that, the statement that he just said to the media is that powerful that many teams are interested in him already even though he isn't eligible to be traded... for now.

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There is also a wild speculation on Giannis, him and Anthony Davis of LA Lakers for a 1:1 trade? I'm not sure though if the Lakers are going to make this trade, but for me this make sense. AD is already fragile and we all know that it was a cringe to watch him attempting to get rebounds or block shot as he might get injured once he lands down. This is just speculation though. Everything though depends on the performance of the Buck and Giannis, or maybe this is a sign that they might not be as good as the previous years as everyone for sure have heard about Giannis comments and it might have crack the relationship of the team right now.

If I were the General Manager of the Milwaukee Bucks, this trade would never happen even if Anthony Davis improves a lot from last season. As he is already known to be injury-prone, I would not invest in a player with a history of injuries like Anthony Davis. Giannis has had some injury issues in the past but they haven't been as like Anthony Davis is. I would consider accepting the trade if it included additional players like Austin Reaves not just Anthony Davis.

Correct! Why bother to trade your superstar with someone who is known to be an injury-prone player? that's make no sense at all.

Though on some side both are really playing great and the impact is not by far but investment wise, for me, I'll rather
add more money for Giannis' deal instead of letting him go.

Giannis is an all-around player and if he will play with someone who can meet his level of competitiveness, chance that
they may win another title is still possible.

Yes, that's what I also though, that's why I said it's a wild speculation as Giannis is healthy although he had some minor injuries last season that could have affected their chances on the playoff.

And on the other hand, AD is very fragile that we don't know if he can maintain his health this season or there will be another career threatening injuries for him. So we will see what will happen this season for Giannis and what will be his big decision next.

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He's not a good player to trade for Giannis. There's no question that Davis is talented, but it's a big gamble for the Bucks to accept Davis because he's known to be injury-prone. While we're not hoping he will get injured, history has shown that he has been plagued by injuries most of the time. This is also the reason he was traded to the Lakers from the Pelicans.

The Bucks don't want him. PERIOD.

Can Davis be the franchise player of the Bucks? How can you put your trust into a player who's injury prone, and anytime, there's a chance that he might be out for the whole season? If healthy, he is a double-double machine, and one of the best bigs out there, but there's an "IF" on it. His performance last season is pretty well. Lesser injuries, and played well, but still there are still doubts if he can sustain to play that way knowing that he's been injured, and play only a few games for a number of years in the past.

The Bucks don't want to risk getting Davis for Giannis, and they will rather find another team that can give them better players than the Lakers. I believe those who has many draft picks are the ones that has the highest chance in getting him.

I'm curious now because, as far as I know, Giannis was rumored not to re-sign with the Bucks once he becomes a free agent. So, why are we discussing a possible trade here? I also gave my opinion about the potential trade, but now I realize that, is the trade really going to happen?

Since there are no trade rumors, all the discussions about which team could potentially land Giannis and which players would be exchanged for him don't make sense.

Perhaps the more appropriate discussion is which team could potentially sign Giannis in the upcoming offseason.

You know, it's quite funny to me that a single statement from Giannis alone has made the whole basketball community talk about a potential trade when in-fact it's not yet happening, at least for another season because he still got an existing contract with the Milwaukee Bucks. And if Giannis's target is to play while wearing the Warriors jersey, then we can already assume that he will wait until he will be in the free agency and then the Warriors can start to offer him what he wanted.

You are correct, but you just have to imagine the impact of that statement though. If you look at it, Giannis says that it's no longer loyalty for him, but championships that is every important.

And with that, the Bucks management should be nervous by know. If by chance they didn't do well this season, most likely Giannis might be thinking of joining other teams to quest for more rings in his fingers.

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He's not a good player to trade for Giannis. There's no question that Davis is talented, but it's a big gamble for the Bucks to accept Davis because he's known to be injury-prone. While we're not hoping he will get injured, history has shown that he has been plagued by injuries most of the time. This is also the reason he was traded to the Lakers from the Pelicans.

The Bucks don't want him. PERIOD.

Can Davis be the franchise player of the Bucks? How can you put your trust into a player who's injury prone, and anytime, there's a chance that he might be out for the whole season? If healthy, he is a double-double machine, and one of the best bigs out there, but there's an "IF" on it. His performance last season is pretty well. Lesser injuries, and played well, but still there are still doubts if he can sustain to play that way knowing that he's been injured, and play only a few games for a number of years in the past.

The Bucks don't want to risk getting Davis for Giannis, and they will rather find another team that can give them better players than the Lakers. I believe those who has many draft picks are the ones that has the highest chance in getting him.

I'm curious now because, as far as I know, Giannis was rumored not to re-sign with the Bucks once he becomes a free agent. So, why are we discussing a possible trade here? I also gave my opinion about the potential trade, but now I realize that, is the trade really going to happen?

Since there are no trade rumors, all the discussions about which team could potentially land Giannis and which players would be exchanged for him don't make sense.

Perhaps the more appropriate discussion is which team could potentially sign Giannis in the upcoming offseason.

You know, it's quite funny to me that a single statement from Giannis alone has made the whole basketball community talk about a potential trade when in-fact it's not yet happening, at least for another season because he still got an existing contract with the Milwaukee Bucks. And if Giannis's target is to play while wearing the Warriors jersey, then we can already assume that he will wait until he will be in the free agency and then the Warriors can start to offer him what he wanted.

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Quote from: Viscore on September 04, 2023, 09:01:02 AM

James Harden's stats are still fine; he averaged 21 PPG last season. However, we didn't see a significant impact on the team, which is why we are a bit frustrated with him.

His PPG is significantly drop compared when he is on prime during his rockets days. His FG% is still averaging 44% which is same from before but his scoring potential drops significantly. This is important factor to be considered since this guy is known for no defense at all since his defense is his offense before.

He needs to step up with 76ers now that he already have Embiid that can penetrate inside easily.

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Quote from: ultrloa on September 04, 2023, 06:08:56 AM

Don't ever think that they need harden on the rooster since they are good team already. Considering adding him might create a bad atmosphere on the team knowing his attitude is not good if he didn't get want. Mitchell might be a good addition to them if he became a team player and can able to share the ball with his team mates but if he always want the ball in his hands maybe this is another fall down for them.

The Suns right now are really a good team unless they are looking for more players to increase their probability of winning a championship without taking into account the consequences it may bring. They seem a misunderstand James Harden because all they talked about was his skills and they forgot the market value he would bring to the team, I think what he can give is more of what he can take because he will be using his 100% whenever he is in the new team.

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So it was like GSW and now Lakers also wants to step in with this potential trade that Giannis might ask in the future? AD is the one that they can trade for him. I don't think that's a worth trade for them just as what everyone is saying. He's just gonna get more injury and he won't be usable if the trade is done. Now, what if the Bucks will offer Giannis something that he can't decline? Then, it's really on him that he wants an exit to the team and wants to try something new that will make him explore with many options and play as well with other teams. Speaking of Giannis, his brother Alex signed and waived by Bucks as well. (Bucks sign and waive Alex Antetokounmpo, brother of Giannis, in apparent plan to keep him on G League team

Yeah, it all on him to decide, if by chance Bucks let him go for sure there are many teams that will be interested and will try all the possible offers that they can provide to see if they can acquire his service.

That's pretty sure when they give a hint that they're going to allow him to be released. Most of the teams are probably going to let go some of their key players just for Giannis to be taken. This is all about business and Giannis has that experience that every team needs and was also one of the pillars that have brought championship to the Bucks. Maybe some valid reason he'd say when the contract expires as he's honoring that.

Quote from: Pamadar on September 04, 2023, 08:04:05 AM

While with the bucks, personally, you may not let your main alpha go without any valid reason or without any
try to keep him to stay, 2 years from now we will see what future will dictate for this issue, or maybe if by chance
it will be earlier if a problem happens or this rumor will continue to break relationship between Giannis and
the Bucks management.

He's not just too vulgar unlike with Harden. It's not about his attitude but there's something wrong with Harden's team and management but for Giannis, there's not much of an issue to be addressed for his expression of moving to another team.

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Quote from: mirakal on September 04, 2023, 08:46:04 AM

The present Harden is already a liability to any team that he gets into and worse is, he's not that kind of clutch anymore or can make some shots in crucial minutes/seconds because he is growing old already. I don't know what happened to him, I'm not that sure if it's his age but I do know that he's not that useful anymore.

Furthermore, any team that will get him might have the same situation like the Nets had and now the Sixers, I mean it's not that new anymore that he's too desperate to get a ring and would use his status, if it's any good, to go to a team that can give what he wanted. Suns don't probably want that.

James Harden's stats are still fine; he averaged 21 PPG last season. However, we didn't see a significant impact on the team, which is why we are a bit frustrated with him. I don't know if we can entirely blame him, as there are often chemistry issues within a team, especially when playing alongside a franchise player. It's different from his time with the Rockets when he was the best player and had the freedom to shoot whenever he wanted. With the Sixers, he's the second option, and it's even more challenging with the Nets, where Durant and Irving, who were both alphas on their previous teams, are also in the mix.

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Suddenly I'm seeing a lot of talk about the Suns trading Bradley Beal... I don't even know if that's an option or something they would want, but I'm hearing names like Donovan Mitchell and James Harden. I doubt the Suns would be willing to take on Harden as he's a huge risk and has already said he wants to be the number one option on whatever team he lands on, but Mitchell might be a legitimate option if they were trying to flip Beal. I'd personally rather have Beal as I think he fits in better with other stars, but Mitchell is an elite player when it comes time to show it.

Mitchell would be a nice switch but doubt cavs would do that, and Harden just doesn't make any sense for the Suns. Why would they already give up on Beal. Where have ypu seen this chatter? And last isn't there a set period of time that has to go by before he can be traded again? If there is bad blood on that team already I'd be surprised.

Yes, that just don't make any sense because the Suns have poured enough resources to acquire Beal and then now they suddenly want to trade him so that they can make some space for Harden and Donovan. If it's Donovan, it would make sense but Harden? I don't think so. That man is already out of his prime, he can do some help but most of the time, he's just a star who is now a liability to any team that he lands on.

Well when they acquire Beal from the Wizards, it make no sense at all because of the huge contract that they have to inherit. But it seems the plan is to used him as leverage for future trade, for sure if there is a superstar that they want to trade, it won't be KD and not likely their franchise player in Booker.

So this is the only reason why the talks and the name of Beal suddenly pop up for a trade with Harden or even Donovan Mitchell. Sometimes it really doesn't make sense at all for teams to trade their superstars, it's a risk that the owners will have to take.

If it's Donovan Mitchell then I think it's worth it because acquiring Bradley Beal really hurt them because of his big contract like you've said, but I don't see any reasons why the Phoenix Suns would want to add James Harden in their roster, Mitchell would suffice. Harden's name might pop up in this rumored trade because of what he said against the Sixers but I don't think that it'll be a criteria for any team right now to acquire him because he's not that the same anymore.

Don't ever think that they need harden on the rooster since they are good team already. Considering adding him might create a bad atmosphere on the team knowing his attitude is not good if he didn't get want. Mitchell might be a good addition to them if he became a team player and can able to share the ball with his team mates but if he always want the ball in his hands maybe this is another fall down for them.

The present Harden is already a liability to any team that he gets into and worse is, he's not that kind of clutch anymore or can make some shots in crucial minutes/seconds because he is growing old already. I don't know what happened to him, I'm not that sure if it's his age but I do know that he's not that useful anymore.

Furthermore, any team that will get him might have the same situation like the Nets had and now the Sixers, I mean it's not that new anymore that he's too desperate to get a ring and would use his status, if it's any good, to go to a team that can give what he wanted. Suns don't probably want that.

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I don't know if this is right but if Giannis really wanted to be traded then that's the only way if they can get some good offer from the Lakers if the other teams cannot give them more players for Giannis and some good offers specifically for him. nevertheless, if the players wanted to get out from the team, the team like the 76ers would have nothing to do but accept their request since they might not want to play intensively anymore for that team.

So it was like GSW and now Lakers also wants to step in with this potential trade that Giannis might ask in the future? AD is the one that they can trade for him. I don't think that's a worth trade for them just as what everyone is saying. He's just gonna get more injury and he won't be usable if the trade is done. Now, what if the Bucks will offer Giannis something that he can't decline? Then, it's really on him that he wants an exit to the team and wants to try something new that will make him explore with many options and play as well with other teams. Speaking of Giannis, his brother Alex signed and waived by Bucks as well. (Bucks sign and waive Alex Antetokounmpo, brother of Giannis, in apparent plan to keep him on G League team

Yeah, it all on him to decide, if by chance Bucks let him go for sure there are many teams that will be interested and will try all the possible offers that they can provide to see if they can acquire his service.

While with the bucks, personally, you may not let your main alpha go without any valid reason or without any
try to keep him to stay, 2 years from now we will see what future will dictate for this issue, or maybe if by chance
it will be earlier if a problem happens or this rumor will continue to break relationship between Giannis and
the Bucks management.

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He's not a good player to trade for Giannis. There's no question that Davis is talented, but it's a big gamble for the Bucks to accept Davis because he's known to be injury-prone. While we're not hoping he will get injured, history has shown that he has been plagued by injuries most of the time. This is also the reason he was traded to the Lakers from the Pelicans.

The Bucks don't want him. PERIOD.

Can Davis be the franchise player of the Bucks? How can you put your trust into a player who's injury prone, and anytime, there's a chance that he might be out for the whole season? If healthy, he is a double-double machine, and one of the best bigs out there, but there's an "IF" on it. His performance last season is pretty well. Lesser injuries, and played well, but still there are still doubts if he can sustain to play that way knowing that he's been injured, and play only a few games for a number of years in the past.

The Bucks don't want to risk getting Davis for Giannis, and they will rather find another team that can give them better players than the Lakers. I believe those who has many draft picks are the ones that has the highest chance in getting him.

I'm curious now because, as far as I know, Giannis was rumored not to re-sign with the Bucks once he becomes a free agent. So, why are we discussing a possible trade here? I also gave my opinion about the potential trade, but now I realize that, is the trade really going to happen?

Since there are no trade rumors, all the discussions about which team could potentially land Giannis and which players would be exchanged for him don't make sense.

Perhaps the more appropriate discussion is which team could potentially sign Giannis in the upcoming offseason.

Maybe they are exploring about possibilities that might happen. But for now that's not possible to happen since for sure Bucks provably can do all just retain Giannis on their roster.

He is their main star so I'm sure that they can't afford to lose him since this could be a long drought to their team if that happen.
But I'm sure Giannis will stay and sill not go to other teak since he is the type of guy which is so committed on his team.

Yes, everything is still on the speculation phase, Giannis will still have to play the whole season and see how Bucks will go. Maybe what Giannis is feeling is that after their championship, they even had a hard time getting into the 2nd round of the playoffs.

And remember that Middleton and Holiday are going to be in their mid 30's. And Lopez too is in his 30's if I'm not mistaken. So the team is getting old and most likely this is what in the minds of Giannis rightn now that's why he said that he might leave the Bucks for another good team.

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Philadelphia 76ers receive: Kyrie Irving

Dallas Mavericks receive: James Harden

I doubt this could happen, if it does, I will be totally surprised.
IMO, Mark Cuban liked Kyrie Irving on their roster. It will be difficult for him to let go of such a star who was just recently signed. And I think Kyrie is still a better option than Harden.

This trade would be mind blowing hehe. Just imagine what would happen if you exchange one player with diva tendencies with another one?

It will be hilarious. Grin

Both have management problems and they have mood swings, so it will just be based on their skill on how the trade will come to an end, if ever.

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That is a very interesting article. I like that kind of journalism for something so vague like trades. I also think the last one, Kyrie-Harden, trade is quite unlikely. And first two somehow possible. I think Spurs could trade KAT for everyone's sake. That trade would be beneficial for everyone. That is the one I'd like to actually see happen.

I wholeheartedly agree. I want to see KAT somewhere else. He had been wearing the Timberwolves jersey for a long time but we don't really see a surprising improvement on their team. I thought it would be different when Anthony Edwards landed on them but it's not that big of a change.
A Spurs jersey might be a good change for him especially with Pops on his side which has a good record for building big men to reach the top of the rankings.
KAT has the skills, he can shoot too, but it seems like the spotlight of Timberwolves is focused on Edwards now and not him.

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He's not a good player to trade for Giannis. There's no question that Davis is talented, but it's a big gamble for the Bucks to accept Davis because he's known to be injury-prone. While we're not hoping he will get injured, history has shown that he has been plagued by injuries most of the time. This is also the reason he was traded to the Lakers from the Pelicans.

The Bucks don't want him. PERIOD.

Can Davis be the franchise player of the Bucks? How can you put your trust into a player who's injury prone, and anytime, there's a chance that he might be out for the whole season? If healthy, he is a double-double machine, and one of the best bigs out there, but there's an "IF" on it. His performance last season is pretty well. Lesser injuries, and played well, but still there are still doubts if he can sustain to play that way knowing that he's been injured, and play only a few games for a number of years in the past.

The Bucks don't want to risk getting Davis for Giannis, and they will rather find another team that can give them better players than the Lakers. I believe those who has many draft picks are the ones that has the highest chance in getting him.

I'm curious now because, as far as I know, Giannis was rumored not to re-sign with the Bucks once he becomes a free agent. So, why are we discussing a possible trade here? I also gave my opinion about the potential trade, but now I realize that, is the trade really going to happen?

Since there are no trade rumors, all the discussions about which team could potentially land Giannis and which players would be exchanged for him don't make sense.

Perhaps the more appropriate discussion is which team could potentially sign Giannis in the upcoming offseason.

Maybe they are exploring about possibilities that might happen. But for now that's not possible to happen since for sure Bucks provably can do all just retain Giannis on their roster.

He is their main star so I'm sure that they can't afford to lose him since this could be a long drought to their team if that happen.
But I'm sure Giannis will stay and sill not go to other teak since he is the type of guy which is so committed on his team.

They cannot retain a player if they are already asking to be traded, just like what happened with Lillard and Harden; they will surely get traded because there's no reason to keep them when they are not 100% dedicated to playing for the team. Things have changed a lot; players now can dictate trades and exert pressure on team management. So, at the end of the day, their desires are often followed because teams don't want to miss the chance to compete for a championship with players who are fully committed.

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