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The Lakers look better on paper, and I also expect them to make at least the playoffs next season. However, as you said, they will rely a lot on LeBron and Davis' health anyway, and that's a problem because both players have missed a lot of games due to injuries over the last few seasons. It will be good if LeBron can play at least 60 games and Davis at least 50 games next season.

You hit the nail on the head with the injuries, but are you really expecting Davis, a man in his prime, to play less games than a nearly 40 year old LeBron James? That in itself shows the dire situation the Lakers are faced with. They need to get rid of Anthony Davis for the good of the team. I get that can't happen now because you have to cross your fingers and hope you'll get a healthy LeBron James and Anthony Davis going into the playoffs, but what do you think the odds of that are? It makes you think maybe Kawhi Leonard is on to something. How long until other teams just don't play their stars until the playoffs?

My expectations regarding LeBron and Davis are based on stats from previous seasons. Davis has never played a full season (82 games) in his entire career. Besides, the trend over the last few seasons is that if he plays at least half a season, it's an accomplishment for him. For example, he played only 36 games in the 20/21 season, 40 games in the 21/22 season, and 56 games in the 22/23 season. So yes, I expect this trend to continue next season, and Davis will likely miss more games than the aging LeBron.

But the good thing is, even if Davis misses half of the regular season, the Lakers will still make it to the playoffs. I think it's better that way, with Davis missing some games in the regular season but being 100% available in the playoffs, as playoffs matter the most.

The Lakers already have a strong defense and are a good rebounding team. The only problem is their consistency on offense; they seem to lack confidence in their outside shooting, resulting in a low percentage beyond the arc. This mistake has haunted them throughout the playoffs, especially against the Nuggets, who are a good outside shooting team.

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The Lakers look better on paper, and I also expect them to make at least the playoffs next season. However, as you said, they will rely a lot on LeBron and Davis' health anyway, and that's a problem because both players have missed a lot of games due to injuries over the last few seasons. It will be good if LeBron can play at least 60 games and Davis at least 50 games next season.

You hit the nail on the head with the injuries, but are you really expecting Davis, a man in his prime, to play less games than a nearly 40 year old LeBron James? That in itself shows the dire situation the Lakers are faced with. They need to get rid of Anthony Davis for the good of the team. I get that can't happen now because you have to cross your fingers and hope you'll get a healthy LeBron James and Anthony Davis going into the playoffs, but what do you think the odds of that are? It makes you think maybe Kawhi Leonard is on to something. How long until other teams just don't play their stars until the playoffs?

My expectations regarding LeBron and Davis are based on stats from previous seasons. Davis has never played a full season (82 games) in his entire career. Besides, the trend over the last few seasons is that if he plays at least half a season, it's an accomplishment for him. For example, he played only 36 games in the 20/21 season, 40 games in the 21/22 season, and 56 games in the 22/23 season. So yes, I expect this trend to continue next season, and Davis will likely miss more games than the aging LeBron.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on August 02, 2023, 01:32:36 AM

I just saw that Doc Rivers is working for ESPN now. Grin

Guess teams have finally realized that he is not the coach you need if you want to win. His resume in the playoffs over the past years is so weak, no wonder nobody wanted to sign him, even when there were 4 or so vacant coaching positions available after last season.

Once you start working for a tv network, your career almost always is over.

Lol, yeah perhaps his last great coaching stint is with the Boston Celtics. But after that, he might be a overrated coach. As he didn't replicate that success in any other teams. On the contrary, the teams that he lead choke during playoffs, Grin

But Doc Rivers doesn't have the voice to be a announcer? He has somewhat like a husky voice to me and it's not good to the hear. Not bashing this dude, but they should have not let go of Mark Jackson, in my opinion. We gonna missed, "mama there goes that man".

Good for him, he's lucky to have found work after getting fired from his coaching job. I don't think he will be able to come back as a coach again, considering he has already coached many teams without much success. He may only be remembered for his time with the Boston Celtics, as the teams he coached after that never reached the NBA Finals.

Nevertheless, I'd like to congratulate him. As a worker at ESPN, I believe he may not be earning the same amount of money he made as a coach, but it's still a decent income, and he can continue to enjoy his passion.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on August 02, 2023, 01:32:36 AM

I just saw that Doc Rivers is working for ESPN now. Grin

Guess teams have finally realized that he is not the coach you need if you want to win. His resume in the playoffs over the past years is so weak, no wonder nobody wanted to sign him, even when there were 4 or so vacant coaching positions available after last season.

Once you start working for a tv network, your career almost always is over.

Lol, yeah perhaps his last great coaching stint is with the Boston Celtics. But after that, he might be a overrated coach. As he didn't replicate that success in any other teams. On the contrary, the teams that he lead choke during playoffs, Grin

But Doc Rivers doesn't have the voice to be a announcer? He has somewhat like a husky voice to me and it's not good to the hear. Not bashing this dude, but they should have not let go of Mark Jackson, in my opinion. We gonna missed, "mama there goes that man".

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on August 02, 2023, 01:32:36 AM

I just saw that Doc Rivers is working for ESPN now. Grin

Guess teams have finally realized that he is not the coach you need if you want to win. His resume in the playoffs over the past years is so weak, no wonder nobody wanted to sign him, even when there were 4 or so vacant coaching positions available after last season.

Once you start working for a tv network, your career almost always is over.

Doc Rivers is a cool dude, but he doesn’t exactly have a voice that you’d want to listen to. The guys they fired to make room for him were great too. I think ESPN has made some staffing mistakes over the last couple of years as they seemingly are trying to steer clear of anyone controversial. I agree though, Doc won’t be coaching again.

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I just saw that Doc Rivers is working for ESPN now. Grin

Guess teams have finally realized that he is not the coach you need if you want to win. His resume in the playoffs over the past years is so weak, no wonder nobody wanted to sign him, even when there were 4 or so vacant coaching positions available after last season.

Once you start working for a tv network, your career almost always is over.

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Quote from: tusandii on August 02, 2023, 12:27:07 AM

My belief remains that the Nuggets can take the best series and it seems that losing Bruce Brown and Jeff Green is not difficult for the Denver Nuggets.

Well, let's see what happens next season. There's still plenty of time for all the teams to develop their chemistry and for some to heal from the injuries they suffered last season. The Nuggets are surely one of the heavy favorites to win the title next season, but there's a reason why they aren't the top favorite.

Last season, entering the regular season, they were not expected to win the championship. Despite the fact that they have proven how good they are, it still cannot erase from people's minds that players like Durant, Kyrie, Luka, James, and Curry remain the popular players, and their teams have strong support from their fans.

In short, I would say that the Nuggets are an underrated team.

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At the start of the season, there is still enough time for each team to prepare players and play strategies or better positioning of players.
If we talk about trading, we can see that in the future some players will be traded in order to have what should be able to add strength to the team itself.
But it seems true what you said that Boston, Phoenix, Milwaukee, and the Denver Nuggets will be the dominant competitors later when there is no movement whatsoever before next season begins.

Never forget the Lakers, they had a good offseason and bring back some good players plus got some solid addictions to their roster. If LBJ and AD stay healthy they can definitely make a deep run as well. Phoenix looks nice on paper but that is only scoring, the problem will be defence. About Boston I am also not convinced, they always seem to be strong but the final touch is missing somehow.
Denver of course will be a force again if they stay healthy. They lost Bruce Brown and Jeff Green, but added some ok bench players.

I wonder who the dark horse will be, maybe some team nobody is talking about will surprise the league.

Well I forgot to list the Lakers as a team that can compete well for next season.
Now the Lakers have returned to several great players they can rely on and last season the Lakers have also managed to show a good game and they even competed well when they met the Nuggets.

My belief remains that the Nuggets can take the best series and it seems that losing Bruce Brown and Jeff Green is not difficult for the Denver Nuggets.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on August 01, 2023, 06:47:18 PM

The Suns will be hot that's for sure. They will be fast, and aggressive, and will be using their shooting skills as their main weapon. My only worry here is the injuries which is part of the game, I guess.

We should not worry about that as any player on a certain team could be injured. If injuries were to happen, it would result in a lessened chance of winning, so time management is also very important, especially for Durant, who is the most injury-prone in the roster. Without him, I think the Suns would struggle. Both Beal and Durant would be fresh in the next season, and judging by Durant's performance last season, especially in the playoffs, it looks like it's easy for him to build chemistry with his teammates. Booker and Durant playing together would be effective; it's just unfortunate that they lost to the Nuggets.

Of course, there will be major adjustments made this off-season, and we can expect the Suns to be a great team.

As per https://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/, the Suns are only ranked at number 3, which, in my opinion, is a great value at +650.

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They are good but they can still be matched. The Suns last season was fresh and do not have chemistry. They should be better this year with all the talent they have. Giannis was injured in the playoffs. It could have been a different story if he stayed healthy in the post season. The Nuggets are strong but other teams are getting stronger as well. The competition is still very strong.

The Suns were the only team that were able to give good competition to the Nuggets, so I think you have a point that they are going to be even better next season. Although they lost CP3, he wasn't significant enough to the success of the Suns due to injury issues. However, having Bradley Beal on the team takes them to the next level. Let's just hope that the big 3 will be able to stay healthy throughout the season.

And the chemistry should be created now off-season. They do not have much time if they want the championship now and I think the Suns' management has that goal that's why they spend a lot of money to get players that would best suit Booker. A fully offensive weapon that will be difficult to stop. Expect 120-130 total points for this team and they will match the Nuggets who had a long win record with 120+ on their scoreboard. I mean let's face it, the Nuggets are not actually a defensive team but they rely on accurate offense whenever they try to attack back and that is why they can win games.
When these two teams face each other, we might see mostly an offensive performance.

I think it's quite obvious that they have built a team that will benefit them a lot and they were already doing decent enough as well. With Booker and Durant scoring, they will be unstoppable without a doubt. Ayton is there, Beal is there, that's actually quite good team. I still do not understand why they had to get rid of CP3 that way, he was still a good floor general and he was still a good defender.

I get that he wasn't as good as when he was younger, but he was still good and that matters a lot. I feel like people should realize that Suns coming in hot this season and they are going to be pretty good. I know that many people will doubt them for a long time but that doesn't change the fact that even if a new team, that's a good team.

Cap space. They need to get rid of CP3 or else they will be paying a lot of luxury tax.
And because of the consecutive injuries that CP3 was inflicted with, that is why they need to let him go. He ain't a front-runner point guard anymore, he will be a backup but his pay is still high due to the contract given to him years ago.

The Suns will be hot that's for sure. They will be fast, and aggressive, and will be using their shooting skills as their main weapon. My only worry here is the injuries which is part of the game, I guess.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on August 01, 2023, 07:04:12 AM

It was Bron's influence that brought Westbrook into LA right? Anyways, he did bring a ring already. Heading to the next season, the Lakers are becoming a better team IMO so they are pretty sure in the playoffs again if AD is healthy. Although I still doubt they will reach the conference finals. The west is getting more competitive with the Phoenix Suns adding a 4th big star in Bradley Beal and of course, Denver after the championship experience will have more confidence than ever.

The Lakers look better on paper, and I also expect them to make at least the playoffs next season. However, as you said, they will rely a lot on LeBron and Davis' health anyway, and that's a problem because both players have missed a lot of games due to injuries over the last few seasons. It will be good if LeBron can play at least 60 games and Davis at least 50 games next season.

You hit the nail on the head with the injuries, but are you really expecting Davis, a man in his prime, to play less games than a nearly 40 year old LeBron James? That in itself shows the dire situation the Lakers are faced with. They need to get rid of Anthony Davis for the good of the team. I get that can't happen now because you have to cross your fingers and hope you'll get a healthy LeBron James and Anthony Davis going into the playoffs, but what do you think the odds of that are? It makes you think maybe Kawhi Leonard is on to something. How long until other teams just don't play their stars until the playoffs?

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Quote from: inthelongrun on August 01, 2023, 07:04:12 AM

It was Bron's influence that brought Westbrook into LA right? Anyways, he did bring a ring already. Heading to the next season, the Lakers are becoming a better team IMO so they are pretty sure in the playoffs again if AD is healthy. Although I still doubt they will reach the conference finals. The west is getting more competitive with the Phoenix Suns adding a 4th big star in Bradley Beal and of course, Denver after the championship experience will have more confidence than ever.

The Lakers look better on paper, and I also expect them to make at least the playoffs next season. However, as you said, they will rely a lot on LeBron and Davis' health anyway, and that's a problem because both players have missed a lot of games due to injuries over the last few seasons. It will be good if LeBron can play at least 60 games and Davis at least 50 games next season.

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Quote from: OgNasty on August 01, 2023, 02:00:16 PM

I just saw the new Phoenix Suns jerseys and I have to wonder out loud why the NBA changes jerseys so much. I liked it better when teams only changed their jerseys every 20 years or something. Now it’s like the Jersey designs have gotten so bad that people are happy when they have throwback jersey nights. I’m not a huge fan of their new designs…

I hope that it wouldn't be that bad to have these sublimated jerseys in the NBA, it's kinda exaggerated when it becomes the trend. Well, people these days tend to like it when they find new designs, the new design was surveyed with the fans but still it's the same iconic Phoenix jerseys, it's kinda align with the modernization. Well, we human tend to have different tastes when it comes to designs though.

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I just saw the new Phoenix Suns jerseys and I have to wonder out loud why the NBA changes jerseys so much. I liked it better when teams only changed their jerseys every 20 years or something. Now it’s like the Jersey designs have gotten so bad that people are happy when they have throwback jersey nights. I’m not a huge fan of their new designs…

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Quote from: danherbias07 on August 01, 2023, 02:12:37 AM

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They are good but they can still be matched. The Suns last season was fresh and do not have chemistry. They should be better this year with all the talent they have. Giannis was injured in the playoffs. It could have been a different story if he stayed healthy in the post season. The Nuggets are strong but other teams are getting stronger as well. The competition is still very strong.

The Suns were the only team that were able to give good competition to the Nuggets, so I think you have a point that they are going to be even better next season. Although they lost CP3, he wasn't significant enough to the success of the Suns due to injury issues. However, having Bradley Beal on the team takes them to the next level. Let's just hope that the big 3 will be able to stay healthy throughout the season.

And the chemistry should be created now off-season. They do not have much time if they want the championship now and I think the Suns' management has that goal that's why they spend a lot of money to get players that would best suit Booker. A fully offensive weapon that will be difficult to stop. Expect 120-130 total points for this team and they will match the Nuggets who had a long win record with 120+ on their scoreboard. I mean let's face it, the Nuggets are not actually a defensive team but they rely on accurate offense whenever they try to attack back and that is why they can win games.
When these two teams face each other, we might see mostly an offensive performance.

I think it's quite obvious that they have built a team that will benefit them a lot and they were already doing decent enough as well. With Booker and Durant scoring, they will be unstoppable without a doubt. Ayton is there, Beal is there, that's actually quite good team. I still do not understand why they had to get rid of CP3 that way, he was still a good floor general and he was still a good defender.

I get that he wasn't as good as when he was younger, but he was still good and that matters a lot. I feel like people should realize that Suns coming in hot this season and they are going to be pretty good. I know that many people will doubt them for a long time but that doesn't change the fact that even if a new team, that's a good team.

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Lakers is considered to be a dark horse as well, if I'm not mistaken, of course some of the core is back but still, a ageing Lebron and then injury prone AD? Still not sure how far the Lakers can go in this season.

No matter what happens to them in the Lakers this season, they have already done their job and won the championship because that's just all that it matters when you are with the Superteam trying to be a contender in the NBA league. It will be more amazing when they can get back to the NBA playoffs this season because they easily made a great run last season and also beat the defending champion easily. The worse thing they did was signed Westbrook despite having multiple stars that can help them with the championship again last season.

It was Bron's influence that brought Westbrook into LA right? Anyways, he did bring a ring already. Heading to the next season, the Lakers are becoming a better team IMO so they are pretty sure in the playoffs again if AD is healthy. Although I still doubt they will reach the conference finals. The west is getting more competitive with the Phoenix Suns adding a 4th big star in Bradley Beal and of course, Denver after the championship experience will have more confidence than ever.

The Lakers are not likely going to make it to the NBA Finals again, as they haven't significantly upgraded their lineup. They were swept by the Nuggets, so it's hard to expect that they will beat the defending champions next season. Yeah, you have a point. I think the Phoenix Suns have a good chance of beating the Nuggets because if they could maximize Bradley Bell, he will certainly score like Booker. And, of course, we have to hope that these three offensive players are going to be healthy, as the Suns cannot afford to lose either one of them.

Quote from: inthelongrun on August 01, 2023, 07:04:12 AM

The team that I felt disappointed is Dallas. That team will be doomed since the arrival of Kyrie Irving. A good player but toxic, and injury prone and I just don't think his style is a good fit for Luka.

I would love to give the benefit of the doubt. Kyrie came late in the season, so there's probably some chemistry problem, and I'm hoping they have fixed that already in the off-season. However, if at the beginning of the season, Dallas is still struggling, then maybe I would believe that they'll end up like the mess they were last season.

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Lakers is considered to be a dark horse as well, if I'm not mistaken, of course some of the core is back but still, a ageing Lebron and then injury prone AD? Still not sure how far the Lakers can go in this season.

No matter what happens to them in the Lakers this season, they have already done their job and won the championship because that's just all that it matters when you are with the Superteam trying to be a contender in the NBA league. It will be more amazing when they can get back to the NBA playoffs this season because they easily made a great run last season and also beat the defending champion easily. The worse thing they did was signed Westbrook despite having multiple stars that can help them with the championship again last season.

It was Bron's influence that brought Westbrook into LA right? Anyways, he did bring a ring already. Heading to the next season, the Lakers are becoming a better team IMO so they are pretty sure in the playoffs again if AD is healthy. Although I still doubt they will reach the conference finals. The west is getting more competitive with the Phoenix Suns adding a 4th big star in Bradley Beal and of course, Denver after the championship experience will have more confidence than ever.

The team that I felt disappointed is Dallas. That team will be doomed since the arrival of Kyrie Irving. A good player but toxic, and injury prone and I just don't think his style is a good fit for Luka.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on August 01, 2023, 05:47:00 AM

Lakers is considered to be a dark horse as well, if I'm not mistaken, of course some of the core is back but still, a ageing Lebron and then injury prone AD? Still not sure how far the Lakers can go in this season.

No matter what happens to them in the Lakers this season, they have already done their job and won the championship because that's just all that it matters when you are with the Superteam trying to be a contender in the NBA league. It will be more amazing when they can get back to the NBA playoffs this season because they easily made a great run last season and also beat the defending champion easily. The worse thing they did was signed Westbrook despite having multiple stars that can help them with the championship again last season.

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They are good but they can still be matched. The Suns last season was fresh and do not have chemistry. They should be better this year with all the talent they have. Giannis was injured in the playoffs. It could have been a different story if he stayed healthy in the post season. The Nuggets are strong but other teams are getting stronger as well. The competition is still very strong.

The Suns were the only team that were able to give good competition to the Nuggets, so I think you have a point that they are going to be even better next season. Although they lost CP3, he wasn't significant enough to the success of the Suns due to injury issues. However, having Bradley Beal on the team takes them to the next level. Let's just hope that the big 3 will be able to stay healthy throughout the season.

Well, let's see if the Phoenix Suns are now a "finals" type of team, because the last time I remember the Denver Nuggets told the media that their toughest opponent in the 2023 playoffs was the Minnesota Timberwolves, I really feel like it, they just need more team chemistry and add some depth with their roster. Honestly, I still doubt the Suns roster this year, even with the Bradley Beal acquisition. I'm not hating because they are desperate, but they kept building and finding that chemistry while the Nuggets are solidifying it, make it more way ahead of any teams in the NBA right now. I don't have any clue why they let Bruce Brown go away with a different team, but all I know is that the Denver Nuggets were trying to build a new dynasty. That trade they made just before they won the championship was the first step towards it.

With acquisition of Beal before the season start, they can build good chemistries with a given time frame of working together,
my doubt is the leadership when they are all inside the floor.

All 3 superstars are mostly wants to have the ball and control the offense, there's a need of stepping down with your usual type of game.

Both Booker and Beal need to find that way to adjust to how KD plays the game, if they can duplicate that support that the splash
bro provide for KD when he's still playing with them, that kind of chemistries is what the Suns need to bring success to the franchise.

We already see how Booker and Durant play together they work well since Durant can adopt to his teammates. The question is Beal if he can adjust on his role and he can accept that he cannot handle the ball all the time since he have 2 superstar teammate to share. But for sure they already talk about this since they have goal set and that is to win a championship this season.

To many to wait for this team since for Beal's addition to this team Suns became a title contender again and for sure many fans would love to see how their rotation works or if they cam create a good chemistry together.

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Lot of time ahead for the start of the season, but in your head, wich team do you thing its gonna be a contender and wich team its gonna be a tanker in the bottom of the table?

We have to wait until all the pieces are in place. There are still a lot of trades that could happen that could drastically change favorites. If nothing else moves, then definitely Boston, Phoenix, Milwaukee and Denver are contenders.

At the start of the season, there is still enough time for each team to prepare players and play strategies or better positioning of players.
If we talk about trading, we can see that in the future some players will be traded in order to have what should be able to add strength to the team itself.
But it seems true what you said that Boston, Phoenix, Milwaukee, and the Denver Nuggets will be the dominant competitors later when there is no movement whatsoever before next season begins.

Never forget the Lakers, they had a good offseason and bring back some good players plus got some solid addictions to their roster. If LBJ and AD stay healthy they can definitely make a deep run as well. Phoenix looks nice on paper but that is only scoring, the problem will be defence. About Boston I am also not convinced, they always seem to be strong but the final touch is missing somehow.
Denver of course will be a force again if they stay healthy. They lost Bruce Brown and Jeff Green, but added some ok bench players.

I wonder who the dark horse will be, maybe some team nobody is talking about will surprise the league.

Lakers is considered to be a dark horse as well, if I'm not mistaken, of course some of the core is back but still, a ageing Lebron and then injury prone AD? Still not sure how far the Lakers can go in this season.

And for sure the talk about the West is the defending champions and then a upgraded Phoenix Suns. And the Dame saga still continues, obviously, he wanted to go to the East so it's going to be a good conference to look at with Boston and Sixers and the Bucks.

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