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Quote from: OgNasty on September 01, 2023, 03:57:46 PM

Suddenly I'm seeing a lot of talk about the Suns trading Bradley Beal... I don't even know if that's an option or something they would want, but I'm hearing names like Donovan Mitchell and James Harden. I doubt the Suns would be willing to take on Harden as he's a huge risk and has already said he wants to be the number one option on whatever team he lands on, but Mitchell might be a legitimate option if they were trying to flip Beal. I'd personally rather have Beal as I think he fits in better with other stars, but Mitchell is an elite player when it comes time to show it.

A lot of all-star players on one team isn't always a good thing, and I think getting Harden would have been a bad idea for the Suns. He already played with KD in the Thunder and then in the Nets. Both times, they didn't have any success.
As for Mitchell, we can conclude from last season's results that he feels pretty good about the Cavs. So, his trade to the Suns is unlikely.

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It is going to be exciting if they can do it this season and if it's possible to make some trade offers to the Bucks. But if not, we have to wait until a year until he goes free agent. Anything is possible for a team that wants him badly and he badly wants to be with.

His free agency is so far away so many things can happen by then, with one of them being the Bucks winning another chip and having a top team. Why would giannis want to leave at that point. Or he gets injured and alters his desirability around the league, or any other thing that changes the current outlook. What we know now is the Bucks ain't in the market to trade him.

Maybe he just wants to try something new and that's the best team that he's seeing as a championship team that can bring him another ring. Just as what KD has thought of before. Yeah, he won't be traded right away but if the time comes and talks have happened, there could be a mutual and beneficial agreement that they can end up with. But as statements coming out like Kerr saying things that he'd like to coach Giannis and Giannis going to their team, well something might be cook in the nearest future with these collaborations, transfers and trades.

It's not something new, he really look for teams that can bring him more championships in the future. No doubt that Bucks is still good, but some teams that won championship, it's hard to repeat and that's what the Bucks and Giannis experienced, they were not able to duplicate their success for multiple reasons.

So how can he achieved greatness if he just won one ring? Lakers, Spurs, and recently the Warriors are the teams that won multiple championship and some of the players, specially San Antonio Spurs have been recently inducted to the Basketball HOF.

He would like to make his job easier, and he believes that can be achieved by joining a team that is already a championship contender. With the Bucks, he knows that the team heavily relies on him, and he needs to work hard and play better if they want to win. However, with the Warriors, he can rely on players like Draymond, Klay, and especially Curry to carry the offense if he's not playing, which means less pressure on him and a happier playing environment.

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It is going to be exciting if they can do it this season and if it's possible to make some trade offers to the Bucks. But if not, we have to wait until a year until he goes free agent. Anything is possible for a team that wants him badly and he badly wants to be with.

His free agency is so far away so many things can happen by then, with one of them being the Bucks winning another chip and having a top team. Why would giannis want to leave at that point. Or he gets injured and alters his desirability around the league, or any other thing that changes the current outlook. What we know now is the Bucks ain't in the market to trade him.

Maybe he just wants to try something new and that's the best team that he's seeing as a championship team that can bring him another ring. Just as what KD has thought of before. Yeah, he won't be traded right away but if the time comes and talks have happened, there could be a mutual and beneficial agreement that they can end up with. But as statements coming out like Kerr saying things that he'd like to coach Giannis and Giannis going to their team, well something might be cook in the nearest future with these collaborations, transfers and trades.

It's not something new, he really look for teams that can bring him more championships in the future. No doubt that Bucks is still good, but some teams that won championship, it's hard to repeat and that's what the Bucks and Giannis experienced, they were not able to duplicate their success for multiple reasons.

So how can he achieved greatness if he just won one ring? Lakers, Spurs, and recently the Warriors are the teams that won multiple championship and some of the players, specially San Antonio Spurs have been recently inducted to the Basketball HOF.

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It is going to be exciting if they can do it this season and if it's possible to make some trade offers to the Bucks. But if not, we have to wait until a year until he goes free agent. Anything is possible for a team that wants him badly and he badly wants to be with.

His free agency is so far away so many things can happen by then, with one of them being the Bucks winning another chip and having a top team. Why would giannis want to leave at that point. Or he gets injured and alters his desirability around the league, or any other thing that changes the current outlook. What we know now is the Bucks ain't in the market to trade him.

Maybe he just wants to try something new and that's the best team that he's seeing as a championship team that can bring him another ring. Just as what KD has thought of before. Yeah, he won't be traded right away but if the time comes and talks have happened, there could be a mutual and beneficial agreement that they can end up with. But as statements coming out like Kerr saying things that he'd like to coach Giannis and Giannis going to their team, well something might be cook in the nearest future with these collaborations, transfers and trades.

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Steve Kerr is stirring the pot by saying that he would love to coach Giannis, saying he’s not only a great player but also a great person. I think that’s probably as much as he can say without getting fined for tampering, but it’s pretty clear that Golden State is going to do everything they can to try and sign Giannis when the time comes.

Yeah, it will be a limited statement, or else the NBA will be on his tail. Cheesy

Signing Giannis to the Golden State Warriors will probably cost them a lot of good players. Wiggins, and maybe even Klay or Draymond. But if the Bucks are interested they could take CP3 which means a great deal of money that will be released to their salary cap and they get someone that will be worth the price, no disrespect to CP3.
But it all sums down to what the Bucks will need. Giannis is one of the top of the league so I don't think they are just going to let him go. I am more sure that he will make him the face of their franchise.
I've seen some rumors regarding Jrue Holiday trade too but the source is not that convincing so I think it's just a rumor that will die quickly.

Yes, that's what I'm seeing as well, if Klay don't play well in the upcoming season, then I think he will be in the trading block. And if Giannis shows intention of joining, then maybe throw in Wiggins + future draft picks.

Not sure about Draymond though, he is the bedrock of the Warriors so I don't see the management letting go of him. And he just sign a good contract, so he could be out of the equation.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 01, 2023, 11:34:31 AM

Steve Kerr is stirring the pot by saying that he would love to coach Giannis, saying he’s not only a great player but also a great person. I think that’s probably as much as he can say without getting fined for tampering, but it’s pretty clear that Golden State is going to do everything they can to try and sign Giannis when the time comes.

Yeah, it will be a limited statement, or else the NBA will be on his tail. Cheesy

Signing Giannis to the Golden State Warriors will probably cost them a lot of good players. Wiggins, and maybe even Klay or Draymond. But if the Bucks are interested they could take CP3 which means a great deal of money that will be released to their salary cap and they get someone that will be worth the price, no disrespect to CP3.
But it all sums down to what the Bucks will need. Giannis is one of the top of the league so I don't think they are just going to let him go. I am more sure that he will make him the face of their franchise.
I've seen some rumors regarding Jrue Holiday trade too but the source is not that convincing so I think it's just a rumor that will die quickly.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 01, 2023, 03:57:46 PM

Suddenly I'm seeing a lot of talk about the Suns trading Bradley Beal... I don't even know if that's an option or something they would want, but I'm hearing names like Donovan Mitchell and James Harden. I doubt the Suns would be willing to take on Harden as he's a huge risk and has already said he wants to be the number one option on whatever team he lands on, but Mitchell might be a legitimate option if they were trying to flip Beal. I'd personally rather have Beal as I think he fits in better with other stars, but Mitchell is an elite player when it comes time to show it.

Maybe the Suns might have qualms about the Beal acquisitions specially with that massive contract that they acquire. And if I'm not mistaken, Harden also wanted to play with Phoenix. However, this is just a mock trade if I'm not mistaken, so let's see how it goes.

Suns losing CP3, they might be looking at at someone that can play point. Harden might fit that role as he had triple doubles throughout his career. Mitchell though might be a hard pitch as they have Durant and Booker already.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 01, 2023, 03:57:46 PM

Suddenly I'm seeing a lot of talk about the Suns trading Bradley Beal... I don't even know if that's an option or something they would want, but I'm hearing names like Donovan Mitchell and James Harden. I doubt the Suns would be willing to take on Harden as he's a huge risk and has already said he wants to be the number one option on whatever team he lands on, but Mitchell might be a legitimate option if they were trying to flip Beal. I'd personally rather have Beal as I think he fits in better with other stars, but Mitchell is an elite player when it comes time to show it.

If I will pick between the 2, it might be a controversial one, but I'd go with Harden rather than Mitchell.

Harden is more of a PG, Mitchell is more of a SG, Booker is more of a Shooting Guard. Harden, and Booker at the guard position would be better than Mitchell and Booker. Harden might be into many controversies in the last few weeks, but his passing abilities is one of the best, and in fact he's the top in the league last season in assists with more than 10 APG. Harden already adjusted his playstyle when he came into Brooklyn, and in Philly. The once all-star who is scoring more than 25 PPG is now scoring below, and now focusing more on passing, and that will benefit the whole Suns team who has many shooters.

Anyway, this might just be a rumor, so like you, I will also pick Beal as well, but I will not be surprised though if they will get Harden.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 01, 2023, 03:57:46 PM

Suddenly I'm seeing a lot of talk about the Suns trading Bradley Beal... I don't even know if that's an option or something they would want, but I'm hearing names like Donovan Mitchell and James Harden. I doubt the Suns would be willing to take on Harden as he's a huge risk and has already said he wants to be the number one option on whatever team he lands on, but Mitchell might be a legitimate option if they were trying to flip Beal. I'd personally rather have Beal as I think he fits in better with other stars, but Mitchell is an elite player when it comes time to show it.

Mitchell would be a nice switch but doubt cavs would do that, and Harden just doesn't make any sense for the Suns. Why would they already give up on Beal. Where have ypu seen this chatter? And last isn't there a set period of time that has to go by before he can be traded again? If there is bad blood on that team already I'd be surprised.

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Suddenly I'm seeing a lot of talk about the Suns trading Bradley Beal... I don't even know if that's an option or something they would want, but I'm hearing names like Donovan Mitchell and James Harden. I doubt the Suns would be willing to take on Harden as he's a huge risk and has already said he wants to be the number one option on whatever team he lands on, but Mitchell might be a legitimate option if they were trying to flip Beal. I'd personally rather have Beal as I think he fits in better with other stars, but Mitchell is an elite player when it comes time to show it.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 01, 2023, 11:34:31 AM

Steve Kerr is stirring the pot by saying that he would love to coach Giannis, saying he’s not only a great player but also a great person. I think that’s probably as much as he can say without getting fined for tampering,

He needs to be careful with the words that he's going to release especially on this stuff. But yeah, this could be the hint that he's saying that Giannis is welcome to get into the Warriors anytime he wishes or whenever he's already allowed to.

Quote from: OgNasty on September 01, 2023, 11:34:31 AM

but it’s pretty clear that Golden State is going to do everything they can to try and sign Giannis when the time comes.

It is going to be exciting if they can do it this season and if it's possible to make some trade offers to the Bucks. But if not, we have to wait until a year until he goes free agent. Anything is possible for a team that wants him badly and he badly wants to be with.

His free agency is so far away so many things can happen by then, with one of them being the Bucks winning another chip and having a top team. Why would giannis want to leave at that point. Or he gets injured and alters his desirability around the league, or any other thing that changes the current outlook. What we know now is the Bucks ain't in the market to trade him.

He still have 2 more seasons so there's still plenty of time for him decide which team will he play next if the Bucks becomes weaker. Same goes for the Bucks management, they still have plenty of time to make adjustments with their roster to complement Giannis leadership with the team. It's most probably they're not gonna be trading away Giannis if he requested to, since it's going to be so hard to make a block buster trade that involves Giannis.
Well, I guess we're just too excited to see Giannis to land in GSW. Pretty sure he will agree to a pay cut in exchange for a high probability of winning another ring.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 01, 2023, 11:34:31 AM

Steve Kerr is stirring the pot by saying that he would love to coach Giannis, saying he’s not only a great player but also a great person. I think that’s probably as much as he can say without getting fined for tampering,

He needs to be careful with the words that he's going to release especially on this stuff. But yeah, this could be the hint that he's saying that Giannis is welcome to get into the Warriors anytime he wishes or whenever he's already allowed to.

Quote from: OgNasty on September 01, 2023, 11:34:31 AM

but it’s pretty clear that Golden State is going to do everything they can to try and sign Giannis when the time comes.

It is going to be exciting if they can do it this season and if it's possible to make some trade offers to the Bucks. But if not, we have to wait until a year until he goes free agent. Anything is possible for a team that wants him badly and he badly wants to be with.

His free agency is so far away so many things can happen by then, with one of them being the Bucks winning another chip and having a top team. Why would giannis want to leave at that point. Or he gets injured and alters his desirability around the league, or any other thing that changes the current outlook. What we know now is the Bucks ain't in the market to trade him.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on September 01, 2023, 04:09:44 AM

He became a bench warmer after the Lakers championship. It must be age but how are other teams interested in him? I think Coach Mike Brown might be one of the responsible people for this. The time with McGee at Golden State Warriors may have given Coach Brown some idea about his next plan.
And the young Sacramento Kings might also need some veteran and a champion perspective. McGee is the best man for that. I bet they will try to use him so that Sabonis will learn more about being a center in their practice games.
Last season, Sabonis was mostly fouled out as he was too aggressive defending the rim. If McGee could help him minimize that then this would be a good arrangement for the Kings.
I will be looking forward for the Kings to climb the playoffs, or better, the Conference Finals.

I think he is not as athletic as he used to be and that is the main reason, same reason for Deandre Jordan as well, you think someone like that back in the day when he could jump out of the building wouldn't get attention right now? But dude is barely in the league, same with Mcgee, he just doesn't have the attention anymore because he is not as athletic as he used to be.

The last few years has shown that. Hell, Dwight Howard has been out of the league for a while, and dude is not that old, but when you are a big man with athletic abilities and then lose that, you are not going to be that much loved by everyone all at the same time, it just can't be valued anymore. This is what I believe is the main reason.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 01, 2023, 11:34:31 AM

Steve Kerr is stirring the pot by saying that he would love to coach Giannis, saying he’s not only a great player but also a great person. I think that’s probably as much as he can say without getting fined for tampering,

He needs to be careful with the words that he's going to release especially on this stuff. But yeah, this could be the hint that he's saying that Giannis is welcome to get into the Warriors anytime he wishes or whenever he's already allowed to.

Quote from: OgNasty on September 01, 2023, 11:34:31 AM

but it’s pretty clear that Golden State is going to do everything they can to try and sign Giannis when the time comes.

It is going to be exciting if they can do it this season and if it's possible to make some trade offers to the Bucks. But if not, we have to wait until a year until he goes free agent. Anything is possible for a team that wants him badly and he badly wants to be with.

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Word has it that JaVale McGee is going to sign with the Sacramento Kings. I think he’s a great pickup for anyone, but will certainly help the Kings off the bench. Any big bodies to help beat up opposing teams when Sabonis is on the bench will be a welcomed addition in Sacramento. The most exciting gimmick in sports, the beam, will be on full display next season.

Honestly, I don't see why the Kings need him. His performance last season wasn't very impressive, as he averaged only 4.4 points and grabbed only 2.5 rebounds per game. That's pretty bad stats for a guy who's over 7 feet tall. Besides, if I'm not mistaken, the Kings already have a few backup centers (Noel, Queta, Len, and Labissiere). So why do they need another one?

I do not think he should be facing any penalties for this. But at the same time, I will say that he has actually achieved what he wanted by saying this. Probably now Giannis is going to be Interested in moving to Golden State. But definitely, Steve Kerr was playing with fire. I know I have already said that he should not be facing any penalties for this. But at the same time, it wouldn't have been very weird to see him get punished, to be honest. But this can definitely have a big affect on the decision of Giannis if he actually wants to move to Golden State.

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Quote from: OgNasty on August 31, 2023, 07:36:33 PM

Word has it that JaVale McGee is going to sign with the Sacramento Kings. I think he’s a great pickup for anyone, but will certainly help the Kings off the bench. Any big bodies to help beat up opposing teams when Sabonis is on the bench will be a welcomed addition in Sacramento. The most exciting gimmick in sports, the beam, will be on full display next season.

Honestly, I don't see why the Kings need him. His performance last season wasn't very impressive, as he averaged only 4.4 points and grabbed only 2.5 rebounds per game. That's pretty bad stats for a guy who's over 7 feet tall. Besides, if I'm not mistaken, the Kings already have a few backup centers (Noel, Queta, Len, and Labissiere). So why do they need another one?

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and we will expect that Bucks will try keeping him, his demands will be workout to make sure that they will let Giannis feel that
they are willing to spend to keep him and let him continue to lead and stay as the main alpha of his team.

That is for sure because losing Giannis will definitely be a big loss for the franchise and they cannot get another Giannis-like in the league who can be the face of their team because he's just the only one. There might be some players who somehow work and play to be his replacement but not really Giannis who is almost a complete package that any team can ask for.

He's undoubtedly their best player, so it wouldn't be surprising if the Bucks face challenges without him. Giannis possesses a skill set that's comparable to that of LeBron James, and we've seen how teams like the Cleveland Cavaliers struggled after LeBron's departure. They underwent a rebuilding phase and, only recently, started to find success in the playoffs, though not to the extent of LeBron's era when they were consistently in the NBA Finals.

The Bucks are undoubtedly in a tough spot, but they still have one season to potentially change Giannis' mind, especially if the team manages to have an exceptional season.

One more season to be more competitive and try to win another title, the management can still do things that may add some decent role players or another star type of player who can work with Giannis and try winning the title together.

But if they will fail to do so, chances that they will suffer if Giannis decides to leave and find another team who can
give him that chance to win more titles in his career.

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Steve Kerr is stirring the pot by saying that he would love to coach Giannis, saying he’s not only a great player but also a great person. I think that’s probably as much as he can say without getting fined for tampering, but it’s pretty clear that Golden State is going to do everything they can to try and sign Giannis when the time comes.

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Warriors were talked about because of this, he could have the ball, go in, and dish out to Klay or Curry and that would be amazing for them, and teams wouldn't be able to collapse on Curry, since Giannis would be able to actually play good too, so everyone would have to try to stop him, if not then he will score, if they do then he will pass out to greatest shooting duo ever. Not saying that trade will happen, of course it won't but at least I can say that would be a better fit.

Like you, I also thought of that thing as well, but like you said already, him going to the Warriors is almost impossible because they don't have the assets needed to impress the Bucks front office. Giannis' worth is at least an all-star, a good role player, and at least 5 first round picks, and the Warriors don't have that. Which team has the highest chance of getting him? Thunder, Spurs, and the Knicks are the best choice since they have all the assets. This is just basing on one of the videos that I watched on Youtube a few hours ago.

Obtaining Giannis is really not that easy to make because he is an expensive asset which means that the Bucks will not certainly send him off with just a nickel, not without a few good trade package to make with so that the team can still recover after Giannis leaves the team. But that is if Giannis will also like the teams that got the right assets to swap.

In his words, we can say that he will only go to a team that have some chances to play at the championship rounds as he is not wasting his team in a team that doesn't even stand a chance in the qualifies and just because they have the means doesn't mean that they can get Giannis. If it comes to that, I won't be surprised if he will take down another contract from the Bucks so that he will end in the free agency so that the teams like the Warriors and other top teams can get him with just millions of dollars without giving some trades to any team.

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and we will expect that Bucks will try keeping him, his demands will be workout to make sure that they will let Giannis feel that
they are willing to spend to keep him and let him continue to lead and stay as the main alpha of his team.

That is for sure because losing Giannis will definitely be a big loss for the franchise and they cannot get another Giannis-like in the league who can be the face of their team because he's just the only one. There might be some players who somehow work and play to be his replacement but not really Giannis who is almost a complete package that any team can ask for.

But, if this is his mindset that will not really help the team and they might end up losing again this year. Just because he's demanding and they will deliver that doesn't mean they'll win a championship, by far there are still better team than them and they're eyeing the same goal as Giannis hoping for.

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