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Quote from: OgNasty on December 11, 2024, 04:52:23 PM

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NBA has lower viewership, not because of cup or anything silly they do, not play*-in, nothing else at all. They have worse viewership because what we are watching isn't resembling basketball that we used to watch, that is why it is becoming boring.

First they got rid of proper defense by calling everything a foul, players would be going to free throw line 10+ times a game, and that is why we are losing real good defensive schemes, we still have some few defensive specialists, but overall defense seems worse. Then Curry came out, which was awesome individually, he is great for the basketball world, he did made even little kids watch it, and that's a big deal considering their attention span is as long as a tiktok video, so getting their attention was awesome. But then everyone else started to play like Curry, everyone was shooting threes, for a while we had teams just taking turns shooting threes. Now even Lebron is taking halfwary court shots, that is not really what we want to watch is it?

I agree with you that the silly play-in games and NBA tournament aren’t a cause for the decline in viewership, but a knee jerk reaction for trying to get it back. I too am sick of all the fouls. Seems to have started with the legalization of the gather dribble and James Harden step back along with the hand checking rules, etc. The crazy part is they did these rule changes to keep players from getting injured, and we’re seeing more injuries than ever.

I guess fans just get tired with their soft decisions given to players and they implement rules that is unacceptable to the fans since it makes the game became not attractive to watch anymore.

Same crazy shit happen to Edward on post game interview where NBA fined him a whooping $25,000 for saying bad words which I think just an expression and result of intense game which currently on https://www.mensjournal.com/news/nba-anthony-edwards-fine NBA could let that incident pass, But they didn't do it and still give penalty to Edwards for that nonsense reason.

Those games In game tournament and NBA cup is just a filler since maybe they want to give impression to people that competition in NBA became so tight and they want to make people feel excited about it. If they let the play rolled out the same on 90's or early 20's era then maybe all people would agree that each game in NBA is fun to watch.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 10, 2024, 11:07:14 PM

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I'll share a trivia. Darvin Ham is 14-0 on these NBA Cup games and its way back last season when they won the title as well with him as a coach.

That is an odd little bit of trivia. Personally, I don't care at all about the NBA Cup and can't think of a good reason why it exists. The only thing it really does is give the rookies on the team that wins a massive payday, but considering they aren't even the ones playing, it doesn't really seem fair to the rest of the rookies in the league. I think they should do away with it altogether, but that doesn't look like it's going to happen. I think the NBA will be adding a bunch more ridiculousness as they try to continue growing their viewership (it doesn't seem to be working so far).

That's why they are also thinking of expanding more teams to the NBA. If I remember that correctly they are planning to add 2 more teams and Las Vegas is one of the priority. Well, I think that alone can generate good revenue for the league.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 10, 2024, 11:07:14 PM

I think the NBA will be adding a bunch more ridiculousness as they try to continue growing their viewership (it doesn't seem to be working so far).

Especially now that the Lakers are already out of the NBA Cup competition, judging by the most viewed games so far this season, their absence in the picture will likely not help increase viewership, even during the NBA Cup Finals.

Same reason why they drafted Bronny and kept him with the team this long despite of the very slow start. Something the people have not realized because they are thinking LeBron was the sole reason why he made it to the team.

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I saw this article from Shams Charania,

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The Heat are open to listening to offers for Butler and making a deal if the proposal is right, league sources told ESPN, and Butler's agent, Bernie Lee, has indicated in league circles that Butler is open to destinations such as two of the Texas teams (Houston Rockets and Dallas Mavericks) and the Golden State Warriors.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/42878390/shams-charania-nba-pass-trade-intel-jimmy-butler-brandon-ingram-golden-state-warriors

What's your speculation as to where Jimmy is going to go?

He is a native of Houston, so I might put some money on it. But it might take a lot from Houston as well, specially their young roster and future picks. And so far though, Houston is doing good so I doubt that there will be some rebuilding that will include Butler in the future.

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Quote from: dezoel on December 11, 2024, 04:12:10 PM

NBA has lower viewership, not because of cup or anything silly they do, not play*-in, nothing else at all. They have worse viewership because what we are watching isn't resembling basketball that we used to watch, that is why it is becoming boring.

First they got rid of proper defense by calling everything a foul, players would be going to free throw line 10+ times a game, and that is why we are losing real good defensive schemes, we still have some few defensive specialists, but overall defense seems worse. Then Curry came out, which was awesome individually, he is great for the basketball world, he did made even little kids watch it, and that's a big deal considering their attention span is as long as a tiktok video, so getting their attention was awesome. But then everyone else started to play like Curry, everyone was shooting threes, for a while we had teams just taking turns shooting threes. Now even Lebron is taking halfwary court shots, that is not really what we want to watch is it?

I agree with you that the silly play-in games and NBA tournament aren’t a cause for the decline in viewership, but a knee jerk reaction for trying to get it back. I too am sick of all the fouls. Seems to have started with the legalization of the gather dribble and James Harden step back along with the hand checking rules, etc. The crazy part is they did these rule changes to keep players from getting injured, and we’re seeing more injuries than ever.

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Quote from: dezoel on December 11, 2024, 04:12:10 PM

NBA has lower viewership, not because of cup or anything silly they do, not play*-in, nothing else at all. They have worse viewership because what we are watching isn't resembling basketball that we used to watch, that is why it is becoming boring.

First they got rid of proper defense by calling everything a foul, players would be going to free throw line 10+ times a game, and that is why we are losing real good defensive schemes, we still have some few defensive specialists, but overall defense seems worse. Then Curry came out, which was awesome individually, he is great for the basketball world, he did made even little kids watch it, and that's a big deal considering their attention span is as long as a tiktok video, so getting their attention was awesome. But then everyone else started to play like Curry, everyone was shooting threes, for a while we had teams just taking turns shooting threes. Now even Lebron is taking halfwary court shots, that is not really what we want to watch is it?

It's hard to compare era's though, I mean the sports has evolved very much since the 80's-90's game that we grew watching, so I guess we have to accept that fact. Another thing is that the economy itself, maybe there are basketball fans that can't buy tickets to watch live as much as they want.

But so be it, I think it is still very entertaining to watch the games although it has change a lot. At least we've seen the greatest shooter the NBA has in Steph Curry. And then Lebron James making history playing with his son and breaking records.

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NBA has lower viewership, not because of cup or anything silly they do, not play*-in, nothing else at all. They have worse viewership because what we are watching isn't resembling basketball that we used to watch, that is why it is becoming boring.

First they got rid of proper defense by calling everything a foul, players would be going to free throw line 10+ times a game, and that is why we are losing real good defensive schemes, we still have some few defensive specialists, but overall defense seems worse. Then Curry came out, which was awesome individually, he is great for the basketball world, he did made even little kids watch it, and that's a big deal considering their attention span is as long as a tiktok video, so getting their attention was awesome. But then everyone else started to play like Curry, everyone was shooting threes, for a while we had teams just taking turns shooting threes. Now even Lebron is taking halfwary court shots, that is not really what we want to watch is it?

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Quote from: l99l on December 11, 2024, 11:43:14 AM

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A couple good games on TNT tonight. First the Orlando Magic take on the Milwaukee Bucks. The Bucks have been struggling a bit (better lately) and the Magic have been playing great, so this game could end up being a good one to watch. Then you have the Dallas Mavericks and the Oklahoma City Thunder. I might have to watch that one. I don’t get to watch Dallas play enough.

Magic had also carried his great game to the Bucks game, the game was going very close in the first and second quarters, when Orlando seemed to widen the gap, the Bucks started to score and were able to respond quickly. When Milwaukee Bucks had a turning point in the game in the 3rd quarter, they tightened up their defense, and with Giannis Antetokounmpo increasing the tempo, they started to get good results.
It was not clear who would win the game until the last minute, the game was that good.
A little bit of Lillard's final moves and determination won the game for the Bucks.

Yeah, it was Lillard in the last minutes or so that really bring the Bucks to win in this game. Although we should think that this is a easy game for them as the Magic is without their top 2 scorers. But I guess the Magic is really very tough team to beat, they are 1-1 now without Banchero and Wagner.

But let's see how the Magic is going to be moving forward, they are good in their homecourt, but it's about when they travel to the opponents home court that might be a concern for them as they don't have enough personnel to keep their good momentum this season.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on December 11, 2024, 12:19:28 PM

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A couple good games on TNT tonight. First the Orlando Magic take on the Milwaukee Bucks. The Bucks have been struggling a bit (better lately) and the Magic have been playing great, so this game could end up being a good one to watch. Then you have the Dallas Mavericks and the Oklahoma City Thunder. I might have to watch that one. I don’t get to watch Dallas play enough.

Magic had also carried his great game to the Bucks game, the game was going very close in the first and second quarters, when Orlando seemed to widen the gap, the Bucks started to score and were able to respond quickly. When Milwaukee Bucks had a turning point in the game in the 3rd quarter, they tightened up their defense, and with Giannis Antetokounmpo increasing the tempo, they started to get good results.
It was not clear who would win the game until the last minute, the game was that good.
A little bit of Lillard's final moves and determination won the game for the Bucks.

I mean seriously, it's not really speaking for Milwaukee that this game was even close. The Bucks played at home and Orlando now is missing Franz Wagner as well. With Banchero still out, over 50 ppg sitting are on the sidelines with only these 2, and still the Bucks had so much trouble, that's amazing!
The injury thing with those 2 guys is so strange also. Anybody ever heard about people getting a torn oblique? That's not the most common injury and I have actually never heard it in connection with NBA, haha. And then both their star players get the same shxt?? That's some tough luck man!

Orlando is doing something right, that’s for sure. You bring up a good point about the unusual oblique injury. If I was the owners or a art of the coaching staff I’d be taking a look at the trainers to see if they’re doing some sort of unconventional workouts that could be putting their players at risk. It sounds like that may be a possibility.

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Quote from: l99l on December 11, 2024, 11:43:14 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on December 10, 2024, 05:44:03 PM

A couple good games on TNT tonight. First the Orlando Magic take on the Milwaukee Bucks. The Bucks have been struggling a bit (better lately) and the Magic have been playing great, so this game could end up being a good one to watch. Then you have the Dallas Mavericks and the Oklahoma City Thunder. I might have to watch that one. I don’t get to watch Dallas play enough.

Magic had also carried his great game to the Bucks game, the game was going very close in the first and second quarters, when Orlando seemed to widen the gap, the Bucks started to score and were able to respond quickly. When Milwaukee Bucks had a turning point in the game in the 3rd quarter, they tightened up their defense, and with Giannis Antetokounmpo increasing the tempo, they started to get good results.
It was not clear who would win the game until the last minute, the game was that good.
A little bit of Lillard's final moves and determination won the game for the Bucks.

I mean seriously, it's not really speaking for Milwaukee that this game was even close. The Bucks played at home and Orlando now is missing Franz Wagner as well. With Banchero still out, over 50 ppg sitting are on the sidelines with only these 2, and still the Bucks had so much trouble, that's amazing!
The injury thing with those 2 guys is so strange also. Anybody ever heard about people getting a torn oblique? That's not the most common injury and I have actually never heard it in connection with NBA, haha. And then both their star players get the same shxt?? That's some tough luck man!

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 10, 2024, 05:44:03 PM

A couple good games on TNT tonight. First the Orlando Magic take on the Milwaukee Bucks. The Bucks have been struggling a bit (better lately) and the Magic have been playing great, so this game could end up being a good one to watch. Then you have the Dallas Mavericks and the Oklahoma City Thunder. I might have to watch that one. I don’t get to watch Dallas play enough.

Magic had also carried his great game to the Bucks game, the game was going very close in the first and second quarters, when Orlando seemed to widen the gap, the Bucks started to score and were able to respond quickly. When Milwaukee Bucks had a turning point in the game in the 3rd quarter, they tightened up their defense, and with Giannis Antetokounmpo increasing the tempo, they started to get good results.
It was not clear who would win the game until the last minute, the game was that good.
A little bit of Lillard's final moves and determination won the game for the Bucks.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 11, 2024, 06:02:17 AM

Keeping the top spot with 19-5 standing, still far but with how they are playing the game a combination of offense and a good defense that's really something that keep them on top.

Yes, the Thunder are performing very solidly this regular season, as well as the Cavs. However, if we take into account the experience and results of other teams in previous seasons, the first spot in the standings doesn't guarantee anything yet. I mean, there have already been many examples of teams that were at the top of the standings by the end of the regular season but failed in the first or second round during the playoffs.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 11, 2024, 06:02:17 AM

Yup, OKC manage to limit Luka they have a good system not to allow the main star to contribute that well, a good team effort that gave them the win today, SGA as always leads them to the scoring productions with him and the rest of the OKC theytake the win and surely bring their fans a huge win today.

Keeping the top spot with 19-5 standing, still far but with how they are playing the game a combination of offense and a good defense that's really something that keep them on top.

The loss of Chet doesn’t seem to be a problem for OKC, as they have a solid replacement in Isaiah Hartenstein, who played very well with the Knicks last season. As we saw in that game, OKC loves shooting from beyond the arc, they went 20-50 from three, and that really hurt the Mavs, even though Dallas controlled the paint.

Dallas, however, struggles with consistency. They lack reliable starting players, and without making adjustments, they’ll likely have a tough time against OKC if they meet again in the playoffs.

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A couple good games on TNT tonight. First the Orlando Magic take on the Milwaukee Bucks. The Bucks have been struggling a bit (better lately) and the Magic have been playing great, so this game could end up being a good one to watch. Then you have the Dallas Mavericks and the Oklahoma City Thunder. I might have to watch that one. I don’t get to watch Dallas play enough.

Yes, the Dallas vs OKC Thunder was also a fun game to watch. First the Thunder did a great job on Luka as they limit him offensively. And with that, they took a good lead until the Mavs rally in the 4th and cut the lead to 8. But the Thunder responded with their own 9-0 run to make that separation. And although Klay hit back to back 3's, the Thunder will have an answer to anything that the Mavs offer. So they also advance in the West in the NBA cup. Klay though have a great game this time, but still not enough for the Mavs to win as Luka was check early and then Caruso, the intangibles in this game, his steals and hassle in the court, and the defense that he also employ against Kyrie was really good.

Yup, OKC manage to limit Luka they have a good system not to allow the main star to contribute that well, a good team effort that gave them the win today, SGA as always leads them to the scoring productions with him and the rest of the OKC theytake the win and surely bring their fans a huge win today.

Keeping the top spot with 19-5 standing, still far but with how they are playing the game a combination of offense and a good defense that's really something that keep them on top.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 10, 2024, 05:44:03 PM

A couple good games on TNT tonight. First the Orlando Magic take on the Milwaukee Bucks. The Bucks have been struggling a bit (better lately) and the Magic have been playing great, so this game could end up being a good one to watch. Then you have the Dallas Mavericks and the Oklahoma City Thunder. I might have to watch that one. I don’t get to watch Dallas play enough.

Yes, the Dallas vs OKC Thunder was also a fun game to watch. First the Thunder did a great job on Luka as they limit him offensively. And with that, they took a good lead until the Mavs rally in the 4th and cut the lead to 8. But the Thunder responded with their own 9-0 run to make that separation. And although Klay hit back to back 3's, the Thunder will have an answer to anything that the Mavs offer. So they also advance in the West in the NBA cup. Klay though have a great game this time, but still not enough for the Mavs to win as Luka was check early and then Caruso, the intangibles in this game, his steals and hassle in the court, and the defense that he also employ against Kyrie was really good.

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A couple good games on TNT tonight. First the Orlando Magic take on the Milwaukee Bucks. The Bucks have been struggling a bit (better lately) and the Magic have been playing great, so this game could end up being a good one to watch. Then you have the Dallas Mavericks and the Oklahoma City Thunder. I might have to watch that one. I don’t get to watch Dallas play enough.

The Bucks outscored the Magic in the 2nd and 3rd quarter and still manage to get the victory 114-109 lead by Giannis, Dame and Bobby Portis that has 87 points combined. After that rough start of the Bucks at the start of the season, they're getting better and better now... at least better than it is at the start. Cheesy

Just for context. I'll share a trivia. Darvin Ham is 14-0 on these NBA Cup games and its way back last season when they won the title as well with him as a coach. It seems like Ham is the team's lucky charm in terms of these NBA Cup games, eh? Nevertheless, it's good to see the whole Bucks team performing better now. As for the Thunder and Mavericks, I'm currently watching it. Mavericks are down 11 as of this moment and they also have a 7-game winning streak as well. Doncic seems playing bad right now scoring only 2 points in near 2 1/2 quarters.

I didn't know that. Thank you. This is actually a good article about Darvin Ham and the NBA Cup.
Peculiar Stat Shows Former Lakers Coach Darvin Ham Stands Alone in NBA Cup History
https://www.si.com/nba/peculiar-stat-lakers-bucks-darvin-ham-nba-cup-history

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With a 114-109 win over the Magic, Ham has yet to lose an NBA Cup game as a coach. He owns a perfect 12–0 record—a feat no other coach can tout after Ham joined the Bucks' staff following his dismissal from the Lakers after two seasons as head coach.

I think Darvin Ham is a great coach but it's the Lakers, they always will pin it all to the coach so that the management won't be questioned.

Sadly though, I lost my bet there. I took a -5.5 bet for the Bucks and I needed one more point to cover the spread. It's okay that they won and it was entertaining game but much better if I won that bet. Grin

The Bucks are now advancing to the next stage, the East Semifinal, and also the Thunder for the West Semifinals.
Now we wait for their opponents.
Rockets vs Warriors, Knicks vs Hawks.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 10, 2024, 10:58:32 PM

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A couple good games on TNT tonight. First the Orlando Magic take on the Milwaukee Bucks. The Bucks have been struggling a bit (better lately) and the Magic have been playing great, so this game could end up being a good one to watch. Then you have the Dallas Mavericks and the Oklahoma City Thunder. I might have to watch that one. I don’t get to watch Dallas play enough.

The Bucks outscored the Magic in the 2nd and 3rd quarter and still manage to get the victory 114-109 lead by Giannis, Dame and Bobby Portis that has 87 points combined. After that rough start of the Bucks at the start of the season, they're getting better and better now... at least better than it is at the start. Cheesy

It was Dame who took it over, the Magic is still in the lead when he hit that three. And then a blow up for a easy two, and then they fouled him and it's automatic hitting two FT's. And then they fouled Giannis for the final score.

There were stretch though that Bobby Portis hasn't missed a shot. So good contribution by him. And Middleton as well, although he didn't score, but he has a huge impact with 8 assists and majority of it is to Giannis for easy dunk or lay up. Now, they advance to NBA Cup Semifinals.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 10, 2024, 11:07:14 PM

I think the NBA will be adding a bunch more ridiculousness as they try to continue growing their viewership (it doesn't seem to be working so far).

Especially now that the Lakers are already out of the NBA Cup competition, judging by the most viewed games so far this season, their absence in the picture will likely not help increase viewership, even during the NBA Cup Finals.

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2024/04/nba-regular-season-viewership-up-slightly-four-year-high-christmas-low/

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 10, 2024, 10:58:32 PM

I'll share a trivia. Darvin Ham is 14-0 on these NBA Cup games and its way back last season when they won the title as well with him as a coach.

That is an odd little bit of trivia. Personally, I don't care at all about the NBA Cup and can't think of a good reason why it exists. The only thing it really does is give the rookies on the team that wins a massive payday, but considering they aren't even the ones playing, it doesn't really seem fair to the rest of the rookies in the league. I think they should do away with it altogether, but that doesn't look like it's going to happen. I think the NBA will be adding a bunch more ridiculousness as they try to continue growing their viewership (it doesn't seem to be working so far).

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 10, 2024, 05:44:03 PM

A couple good games on TNT tonight. First the Orlando Magic take on the Milwaukee Bucks. The Bucks have been struggling a bit (better lately) and the Magic have been playing great, so this game could end up being a good one to watch. Then you have the Dallas Mavericks and the Oklahoma City Thunder. I might have to watch that one. I don’t get to watch Dallas play enough.

The Bucks outscored the Magic in the 2nd and 3rd quarter and still manage to get the victory 114-109 lead by Giannis, Dame and Bobby Portis that has 87 points combined. After that rough start of the Bucks at the start of the season, they're getting better and better now... at least better than it is at the start. Cheesy

Just for context. I'll share a trivia. Darvin Ham is 14-0 on these NBA Cup games and its way back last season when they won the title as well with him as a coach. It seems like Ham is the team's lucky charm in terms of these NBA Cup games, eh? Nevertheless, it's good to see the whole Bucks team performing better now. As for the Thunder and Mavericks, I'm currently watching it. Mavericks are down 11 as of this moment and they also have a 7-game winning streak as well. Doncic seems playing bad right now scoring only 2 points in near 2 1/2 quarters.

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A couple good games on TNT tonight. First the Orlando Magic take on the Milwaukee Bucks. The Bucks have been struggling a bit (better lately) and the Magic have been playing great, so this game could end up being a good one to watch. Then you have the Dallas Mavericks and the Oklahoma City Thunder. I might have to watch that one. I don’t get to watch Dallas play enough.

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