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Houston had no trouble beating New York. They scored a lot of points, especially in the paint. They didn't use a lot of 3-pointers, so their scoring under the basket was important. Alperen Şengün had his best game this season with 25 points and 14 rebounds. It was also important that he stopped KAT. Thompson, Eason and Sheppard came off the bench and made important contributions. Jalen Green had a bad day but the Rockets won the game. Green missed his first 6 3-pointers but made 2 important threes at the end of the game. That was also interesting.
Most likely that's the reason why he goes out and sign a good deal, because he knows that he might get traded by the Clippers and so he can't demand a huge price after that. So it's brilliant move but as what we have been seeing, he is on the decline already so probably he will be taking his sweet tiem with the Sixers in the next 4 years. So let's see how far he can stretch that, hopefully we can see Joel back in uniform.
In another case, Westbrook, since he was traded by OKC, he was a different player already, perhaps in the Washington uniform we can still see some semblance of a prime WB, but in Lakers and in Clippers uniform, he was very different. And this what separates Lebron or to some extend, Steph Curry as they are above 35 years old and yet they still played as hard as anyone, as 21 years old.
Why would any player say no to a lot of money. He is offered 50+ so of course he is going to take it, even if he doesn't live up to that much money, he will just accept it no matter what. Too many players that played in NBA ended up being broke after a while, even Iverson, who was a cultural leader at some point and reason for many kids to wear sleeves while playing basketball, ended up broke for a few years. Of course his deal came through and made tens of millions later, but that wasn't until later, so a few years after his retirement, dude was doing hard time with his financial situation.In another case, Westbrook, since he was traded by OKC, he was a different player already, perhaps in the Washington uniform we can still see some semblance of a prime WB, but in Lakers and in Clippers uniform, he was very different. And this what separates Lebron or to some extend, Steph Curry as they are above 35 years old and yet they still played as hard as anyone, as 21 years old.
So when these new players see these deals, they take it. They know that they will have to pay a ton of taxes, and agents, and coaches, trainers, and many other stuff, what's left to them is like half of the money instead of all of it, so when we are talking about 50+ million paid to him, in reality he gets like 20-30 million range instead and not the whole thing.
Yeah, but perhaps his game could have been declining as well because of injuries, sort of wear and tear.
I don't see any decline here. Just because he had one game below his usual average doesn’t mean he’s on a downward trend. Sometimes players need more time to fully recover and adjust. It’s like Mitchell last year, when he got injured, his performance dipped for a few games after he returned, but eventually, he got back on track. This season, he’s been off to a strong start. But last postseason, he was inconsistent, which is partly why the Cavaliers had an early exit against the Celtics. 
I think Paul George doesn't have the same impact as before. He used to be a very effective player and could make a difference in the game, but now I think he's close to an average player.
It's very hard for Philadelphia to win games without Embiid. Paul George alone is not enough for the team.
It's very hard for Philadelphia to win games without Embiid. Paul George alone is not enough for the team.
PG can't carry a team. That's already proven tons of time, from Pacers down to every team he went before landing in Philly.
He had an opportunity to win a championship or atleast be in the finals, but couldn't beat the Heat as he choked with 7 pts in game 7 of the 2013 ECF.
Then, he had another opportunity with the Clippers alongside Leonard, but still couldn't get past the conference finals.
Now, I don't see him as a great addition to the Philly team. He poses no threat no more.
I agree that the columnist did cross the line but as a professional player, your personal life will always be touched at some point in your career and it happened now. The only problem is that I think Embiid was not ready to tackle such things or even ignore the media when they say things that are foul. Lebron James had been doing that in his entire career and look how silent his personal life is because the media got fed up being ignored by him. 
Until Embiid doesn't play yet, I think all eyes will remain on him.
The way he handles things makes me question if he can truly lead his team to a championship. A real superstar needs mental toughness to carry a team, and I don’t see that in Embiid. Sometimes, he even seems a bit fragile, especially with how often he gets injured.Until Embiid doesn't play yet, I think all eyes will remain on him.
Right, leaders shouldn't break down, we haven't seen Michael Jordan break down in adversity, even after his father died, he continue to go back and play. Embiid shows weaknesses when they lost that game against Toronto with that Kawhi dagger three against him. And I said to myself, that he is as fragile as others who will just mentally break down and going to be very difficult to bounce back after that defeat.
And although he became a MVP, still though, that fact that he can't lead his team and to add to that, his body breaking down as well. And even if he had Paul George, I highly doubt that they can be a contender team today.
It's not over for him yet, though he suffered some serious injury back then, he came back strong and his stats speak for itself.
His last season's stats is still good. -- 22.6 PPG, in fact his best season is with the OKC 28.0 PPG, and that was after he was already injured.
The recent injury was during the preseason game which cost him to be sideline in 5 games, so it's understandable that he came up rusty, but that was just the first game, we don't need to overreact on that.
Yeah, but perhaps his game could have been declining as well because of injuries, sort of wear and tear. And you have said, he had stint with OKC and did put a good numbers but still they can't even advance to the next round in the playoffs. Same when he joined the Clippers, a lot of hype and him and Kawhi joining and we thought that this could be their prime years to make a run. But then either of them got injured and cannot carry the team and now he exited and goes to Philly. And the same had happen, he got injured, recovered, but the game is not coming to him. They still needed Joel to comeback and play and we will see if their tandem is going to work or not, or just Paul George is like the case of CP3 in the end. Always feel short of winning a NBA ring in their career despite being a great player.His last season's stats is still good. -- 22.6 PPG, in fact his best season is with the OKC 28.0 PPG, and that was after he was already injured.
The recent injury was during the preseason game which cost him to be sideline in 5 games, so it's understandable that he came up rusty, but that was just the first game, we don't need to overreact on that.
Well, in most other sports, mainly like football for example, people do retire at that age, or used to, they are growing out of that too, but it's still a decline reason to get to that age. PG13 is a great player, and he will not be some useless player neither, but at 34 years old, after so many injuries in his career, we are going to see him have a big decline, he won't be a star anymore.
34 is definitely the end of your prime, unless you are LeBron James. With Paul George signing a 4 year deal paying him 53 million per year, he's going to have a difficult time living up to that. Especially when you consider he's already injury prone. I don't think he gets another contract in the NBA, unless it is maybe a 1 or 2 year deal with a huge pay cut to try and ring chase from the bench of a contender like we're seeing from Westbrook now. George was one of my favorite players, but we've entered his downslide years now.
Most likely that's the reason why he goes out and sign a good deal, because he knows that he might get traded by the Clippers and so he can't demand a huge price after that. So it's brilliant move but as what we have been seeing, he is on the decline already so probably he will be taking his sweet tiem with the Sixers in the next 4 years. So let's see how far he can stretch that, hopefully we can see Joel back in uniform.
In another case, Westbrook, since he was traded by OKC, he was a different player already, perhaps in the Washington uniform we can still see some semblance of a prime WB, but in Lakers and in Clippers uniform, he was very different. And this what separates Lebron or to some extend, Steph Curry as they are above 35 years old and yet they still played as hard as anyone, as 21 years old.
I agree that the columnist did cross the line but as a professional player, your personal life will always be touched at some point in your career and it happened now. The only problem is that I think Embiid was not ready to tackle such things or even ignore the media when they say things that are foul. Lebron James had been doing that in his entire career and look how silent his personal life is because the media got fed up being ignored by him.
Until Embiid doesn't play yet, I think all eyes will remain on him.
The way he handles things makes me question if he can truly lead his team to a championship. A real superstar needs mental toughness to carry a team, and I don’t see that in Embiid. Sometimes, he even seems a bit fragile, especially with how often he gets injured. Until Embiid doesn't play yet, I think all eyes will remain on him.
Who would’ve thought the Bucks would be struggling this early in the season? They're sitting at the bottom of the standings, doing worse than the usual bottom team, the Detroit Pistons. Their last game was almost the one to snap the losing streak, but Mitchell had to ruin that.
Now they’re trying again tomorrow, but at a different venue, against the same team that's heading in the opposite direction. If they lose again, that’ll just keep the streak going. Hopefully, they won’t get too frustrated; ever since they changed coaches and traded Holiday, things have really flipped - what started off positive has turned pretty negative.
Getting Doc Rivers might be the problem to them, there's also an additional assistant coach whom is Darvin Ham, the former Lakers coach. Now they’re trying again tomorrow, but at a different venue, against the same team that's heading in the opposite direction. If they lose again, that’ll just keep the streak going. Hopefully, they won’t get too frustrated; ever since they changed coaches and traded Holiday, things have really flipped - what started off positive has turned pretty negative.
It's a certainly a struggle that they're having and that recent game they've got against the Cavaliers with that last play of Mitchell was disappointing on their end. If another thing happens again with their next game against to Mitchell's team again, that would be devastating and heartbreaking.
I was in the impression that it was removing Thanasis that cause them this kind of performances, just kidding, but in terms of struggling it was the players that needs to work with their system that last game against Cavs it was really a embarassing upset since they are playing in front of their home crowd, putting pressure to Mitchell as they should anticipate that he will be the one that will take that last shot, not new to the guy as he's really entitle to take that last attempts..
Moving forward, still early and there are many games that they can win along with each other they just need to find that missing piece to start bouncing back.
Well, the Bucks has fell shortly again against the Cleveland Cavaliers. They hit them twice and Cavs proving they're more dominant than the Bucks. Their next match up will be on December.
Oh well they don't have them now that's why they are out of luck hahaha. Though it's the system that's needed to be adjust and how they will play accordingly, they need to change that style allowing Lilard to keep trying his outside shot while he can penetrate and have that much higher chance of makit a basket, or, they can use that penetration to attract defense and let Giannis to recieve a much closer look inside and just power his way to dunk or make a easy basket.
Since most of the discussions are about Embiid, I found this article.
17-Year NBA Veteran Makes Bold Joel Embiid Statement
Clippers legend Lou Williams discussed Joel Embiid's recent altercation
https://www.si.com/nba/clippers/news/17-year-nba-veteran-makes-bold-joel-embiid-statement-01jbx2k4x06t
I agree that the columnist did cross the line but as a professional player, your personal life will always be touched at some point in your career and it happened now. The only problem is that I think Embiid was not ready to tackle such things or even ignore the media when they say things that are foul. Lebron James had been doing that in his entire career and look how silent his personal life is because the media got fed up being ignored by him.
Until Embiid doesn't play yet, I think all eyes will remain on him.
17-Year NBA Veteran Makes Bold Joel Embiid Statement
Clippers legend Lou Williams discussed Joel Embiid's recent altercation
https://www.si.com/nba/clippers/news/17-year-nba-veteran-makes-bold-joel-embiid-statement-01jbx2k4x06t
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"I don't promote violence but every once in a while you need some straightening," said Williams." You can hide behind your laptop and say some of these things because the fan base has been critical of Joel. If you are a journalist, you can take that and run with it and this is giving me cart Blanche to say what I want to say because I can hide behind, well everybody feels like this. No that's his deceased brother and you're talking about his son."
I agree that the columnist did cross the line but as a professional player, your personal life will always be touched at some point in your career and it happened now. The only problem is that I think Embiid was not ready to tackle such things or even ignore the media when they say things that are foul. Lebron James had been doing that in his entire career and look how silent his personal life is because the media got fed up being ignored by him.
Until Embiid doesn't play yet, I think all eyes will remain on him.
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I think Paul George doesn't have the same impact as before. He used to be a very effective player and could make a difference in the game, but now I think he's close to an average player.
It's very hard for Philadelphia to win games without Embiid. Paul George alone is not enough for the team.
Let's not judge the player just because they lost. Take note that it's his first game in Philly, and he just recovered from an injury. I don't know why there are some people who judge these players if they lost a game where in fact, they only played a single game. It's very hard for Philadelphia to win games without Embiid. Paul George alone is not enough for the team.
Doesn't have the same impact? Used to be a very effective player? Close to an average player? Say that again if the Sixers as a team don't clinch the playoffs this regular season. The Sixers not having Embiid has a great impact with the team, but PG not on the team has little impact to them. We know that PG alone isn't enough that's why they have Maxey, and even Oubre Jr. to help him. It's just that, the Sixers as a whole is just a mess in their first games without Embiid, and there's nothing that we can do about it but to move on.
Let's not blame only one player on how the team is performing right now.
I mean 34 years old isn't a young age anymore, I understand that at NBA we are used to seeing players go well beyond after 36-37, and I mean we look at Lebron and he is still one of the best players in the league at age 40, that dude is still better than 99% of the league at age 40, so why would some 34 year old guard be tired or not good anymore, right?
Well, in most other sports, mainly like football for example, people do retire at that age, or used to, they are growing out of that too, but it's still a decline reason to get to that age. PG13 is a great player, and he will not be some useless player neither, but at 34 years old, after so many injuries in his career, we are going to see him have a big decline, he won't be a star anymore.
Well, in most other sports, mainly like football for example, people do retire at that age, or used to, they are growing out of that too, but it's still a decline reason to get to that age. PG13 is a great player, and he will not be some useless player neither, but at 34 years old, after so many injuries in his career, we are going to see him have a big decline, he won't be a star anymore.
34 is definitely the end of your prime, unless you are LeBron James. With Paul George signing a 4 year deal paying him 53 million per year, he's going to have a difficult time living up to that. Especially when you consider he's already injury prone. I don't think he gets another contract in the NBA, unless it is maybe a 1 or 2 year deal with a huge pay cut to try and ring chase from the bench of a contender like we're seeing from Westbrook now. George was one of my favorite players, but we've entered his downslide years now.
I think it's all individual for each NBA player, i.e. individual player stats can start to decrease for various reasons, and it seems to me that it's not always age-related. I think the effects of serious injuries or lack of motivation after 10-15 seasons may be more deciding factors as to why a 30-35-year-old player is no longer at his best.
Imho, guys like LeBron and Curry are blurring that age line of retirement with their great performances.
It's not over for him yet, though he suffered some serious injury back then, he came back strong and his stats speak for itself.
His last season's stats is still good. -- 22.6 PPG, in fact his best season is with the OKC 28.0 PPG, and that was after he was already injured.
The recent injury was during the preseason game which cost him to be sideline in 5 games, so it's understandable that he came up rusty, but that was just the first game, we don't need to overreact on that.
Yeah, but perhaps his game could have been declining as well because of injuries, sort of wear and tear. And you have said, he had stint with OKC and did put a good numbers but still they can't even advance to the next round in the playoffs. Same when he joined the Clippers, a lot of hype and him and Kawhi joining and we thought that this could be their prime years to make a run. But then either of them got injured and cannot carry the team and now he exited and goes to Philly. And the same had happen, he got injured, recovered, but the game is not coming to him. They still needed Joel to comeback and play and we will see if their tandem is going to work or not, or just Paul George is like the case of CP3 in the end. Always feel short of winning a NBA ring in their career despite being a great player.His last season's stats is still good. -- 22.6 PPG, in fact his best season is with the OKC 28.0 PPG, and that was after he was already injured.
The recent injury was during the preseason game which cost him to be sideline in 5 games, so it's understandable that he came up rusty, but that was just the first game, we don't need to overreact on that.
Well, in most other sports, mainly like football for example, people do retire at that age, or used to, they are growing out of that too, but it's still a decline reason to get to that age. PG13 is a great player, and he will not be some useless player neither, but at 34 years old, after so many injuries in his career, we are going to see him have a big decline, he won't be a star anymore.
34 is definitely the end of your prime, unless you are LeBron James. With Paul George signing a 4 year deal paying him 53 million per year, he's going to have a difficult time living up to that. Especially when you consider he's already injury prone. I don't think he gets another contract in the NBA, unless it is maybe a 1 or 2 year deal with a huge pay cut to try and ring chase from the bench of a contender like we're seeing from Westbrook now. George was one of my favorite players, but we've entered his downslide years now.
It's not over for him yet, though he suffered some serious injury back then, he came back strong and his stats speak for itself.
His last season's stats is still good. -- 22.6 PPG, in fact his best season is with the OKC 28.0 PPG, and that was after he was already injured.
The recent injury was during the preseason game which cost him to be sideline in 5 games, so it's understandable that he came up rusty, but that was just the first game, we don't need to overreact on that.
Yeah, but perhaps his game could have been declining as well because of injuries, sort of wear and tear. And you have said, he had stint with OKC and did put a good numbers but still they can't even advance to the next round in the playoffs. Same when he joined the Clippers, a lot of hype and him and Kawhi joining and we thought that this could be their prime years to make a run. But then either of them got injured and cannot carry the team and now he exited and goes to Philly. And the same had happen, he got injured, recovered, but the game is not coming to him. They still needed Joel to comeback and play and we will see if their tandem is going to work or not, or just Paul George is like the case of CP3 in the end. Always feel short of winning a NBA ring in their career despite being a great player.His last season's stats is still good. -- 22.6 PPG, in fact his best season is with the OKC 28.0 PPG, and that was after he was already injured.
The recent injury was during the preseason game which cost him to be sideline in 5 games, so it's understandable that he came up rusty, but that was just the first game, we don't need to overreact on that.
Well, in most other sports, mainly like football for example, people do retire at that age, or used to, they are growing out of that too, but it's still a decline reason to get to that age. PG13 is a great player, and he will not be some useless player neither, but at 34 years old, after so many injuries in his career, we are going to see him have a big decline, he won't be a star anymore.
Who would’ve thought the Bucks would be struggling this early in the season? They're sitting at the bottom of the standings, doing worse than the usual bottom team, the Detroit Pistons. Their last game was almost the one to snap the losing streak, but Mitchell had to ruin that.
Now they’re trying again tomorrow, but at a different venue, against the same team that's heading in the opposite direction. If they lose again, that’ll just keep the streak going. Hopefully, they won’t get too frustrated; ever since they changed coaches and traded Holiday, things have really flipped - what started off positive has turned pretty negative.
Getting Doc Rivers might be the problem to them, there's also an additional assistant coach whom is Darvin Ham, the former Lakers coach. Now they’re trying again tomorrow, but at a different venue, against the same team that's heading in the opposite direction. If they lose again, that’ll just keep the streak going. Hopefully, they won’t get too frustrated; ever since they changed coaches and traded Holiday, things have really flipped - what started off positive has turned pretty negative.
It's a certainly a struggle that they're having and that recent game they've got against the Cavaliers with that last play of Mitchell was disappointing on their end. If another thing happens again with their next game against to Mitchell's team again, that would be devastating and heartbreaking.
I was in the impression that it was removing Thanasis that cause them this kind of performances, just kidding, but in terms of struggling it was the players that needs to work with their system that last game against Cavs it was really a embarassing upset since they are playing in front of their home crowd, putting pressure to Mitchell as they should anticipate that he will be the one that will take that last shot, not new to the guy as he's really entitle to take that last attempts..
Moving forward, still early and there are many games that they can win along with each other they just need to find that missing piece to start bouncing back.
Well, the Bucks has fell shortly again against the Cleveland Cavaliers. They hit them twice and Cavs proving they're more dominant than the Bucks. Their next match up will be on December.
He did suffer that horrific injury in the Olympics a few years back. At the very least that cut him out of his peak prime on the court. Now he is a 34 year old NBA player who used to thrive off his athleticism and explosiveness. I fear his best days are behind him and he will be lucky to make an all star team next year (his first year in Philly might get him some votes).
It's not over for him yet, though he suffered some serious injury back then, he came back strong and his stats speak for itself.
His last season's stats is still good. -- 22.6 PPG, in fact his best season is with the OKC 28.0 PPG, and that was after he was already injured.
The recent injury was during the preseason game which cost him to be sideline in 5 games, so it's understandable that he came up rusty, but that was just the first game, we don't need to overreact on that.
He did suffer that horrific injury in the Olympics a few years back. At the very least that cut him out of his peak prime on the court. Now he is a 34 year old NBA player who used to thrive off his athleticism and explosiveness. I fear his best days are behind him and he will be lucky to make an all star team next year (his first year in Philly might get him some votes).
It's not over for him yet, though he suffered some serious injury back then, he came back strong and his stats speak for itself.
His last season's stats is still good. -- 22.6 PPG, in fact his best season is with the OKC 28.0 PPG, and that was after he was already injured.
The recent injury was during the preseason game which cost him to be sideline in 5 games, so it's understandable that he came up rusty, but that was just the first game, we don't need to overreact on that.
Alperen started the season very well in Houston. He draws attention as the top scorer of his team.
If Houston cannot finish the league in a good place this year, if I were Alperen, I would go to teams with better squads.
Since the beginning of the season, he has not been able to do so only in the San Antonio match, but apart from that match, he has made a double-double in other matches and made a serious contribution to his team.
If he goes to a more ambitious team next year, there is a high probability of him winning the championship.
If Houston cannot finish the league in a good place this year, if I were Alperen, I would go to teams with better squads.
Since the beginning of the season, he has not been able to do so only in the San Antonio match, but apart from that match, he has made a double-double in other matches and made a serious contribution to his team.
If he goes to a more ambitious team next year, there is a high probability of him winning the championship.
Ring wise he needs to be transfer but for sure it won't be easy as he also got very decent contracts where big teams needs to adjust offering him the same value, he got the game and for sure he can be a good addition to whatever competitive teams he landed, but as of now, aside from majot adjustment that can happen before the deadling there's nothing that he can do but to play well and continue showing his greatness for the value of his career.
I think Paul George doesn't have the same impact as before. He used to be a very effective player and could make a difference in the game, but now I think he's close to an average player.
It's very hard for Philadelphia to win games without Embiid. Paul George alone is not enough for the team.
Still a star, but not a super. It's very hard for Philadelphia to win games without Embiid. Paul George alone is not enough for the team.
I am actually surprised at how close the game was because if I remember the spreads, the Suns were the heavy favorite before the start of the game. Those who have taken the risk of taking a + handicap for the 76ers are probably happy now.
It's mostly Tyrese Maxey and Yabusele. I think they should give that guy more minutes because he can score when he heats up. I still think this team is a newly built one so we can expect them to lose more. But time is their enemy and they must make haste in creating chemistry even without Embiid because they are being buried with losses and it will be difficult to get up again and the play-in tournament is not somewhere they want to end up.
Alperen started the season very well in Houston. He draws attention as the top scorer of his team.
If Houston cannot finish the league in a good place this year, if I were Alperen, I would go to teams with better squads.
Since the beginning of the season, he has not been able to do so only in the San Antonio match, but apart from that match, he has made a double-double in other matches and made a serious contribution to his team.
If he goes to a more ambitious team next year, there is a high probability of him winning the championship.
If Houston cannot finish the league in a good place this year, if I were Alperen, I would go to teams with better squads.
Since the beginning of the season, he has not been able to do so only in the San Antonio match, but apart from that match, he has made a double-double in other matches and made a serious contribution to his team.
If he goes to a more ambitious team next year, there is a high probability of him winning the championship.
I think Paul George doesn't have the same impact as before. He used to be a very effective player and could make a difference in the game, but now I think he's close to an average player.
Bad play though, Maxey has the hottest hand in that game, him and Durant are going at each other the whole game and KD accepted that challenge of a 24 year old Maxey. So I'm not sure why the last play of the Sixers goes to Paul George and I will say that Paul George had no business taking that last shot.
It's very hard for Philadelphia to win games without Embiid. Paul George alone is not enough for the team.
Yes, Joel Embiid is still their franchise player, although they got Paul George, he is new in the system and we have seen him injured early. And I would have to agree that he is no longer like a prime Paul George. Just too bad that the Sixers got him with a huge contract with this kind of body and injuries he got throughout his career.
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