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August 26, 2023, 06:02:39 AM
I don't think that they should be humiliated with that lost to the Heat. Miami went on to the finals against the Nuggets, it will be bad if they lost to a team that didn't even reach the finals in the East. And it could be a big lessons for Giannis in that series, and to be fair, he got injured early on that series as well.

Your point is valid. The Miami Heat were underrated in the playoffs; not only did they defeat the Bucks, but they also overcame the Celtics – both formidable teams. In fact, these two teams were considered stronger contenders for the NBA championship compared to the Nuggets. The Nuggets gained strength as the season progressed, especially with Jamal Murray returning to his old form.

As for the Bucks, it's possible they've been somewhat complacent due to their previous championship win. Their early exit from the playoffs could be frustrating for them. They've taken a significant step by replacing their coach, and with a new coach in place, there's potential for change. The Bucks might regain their momentum and return to the Finals. However, consistency and maintaining good health throughout the season will be crucial for their success.

Yes, we don't like coaches being fired, but they are the first casualty if a good team suddenly become bad specially in the playoffs. They have a good lead against the Heat, however, they can't close them and on the contrary, they were beaten. So I wouldn't be surprised if the Bucks started bad in the first half of this season and then coach head getting rolled as a result. So let's see, hopefully this is not the case for the Bucks as they didn't have any major changes in their lineup, meaning they will go for another good run this season.
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August 26, 2023, 05:52:50 AM
What do you think about the Warriors signing Blake Griffin to a 1 year deal at the minimum to make a CP3 lob city reunion? I think it’s a great idea from a business perspective and I also think it’s a great use for your final roster spot. CP3 and Griffin definitely have a chemistry that makes them more dangerous when paired together.

https://clutchpoints.com/nba-rumors-warriors-eyeing-blake-griffin-chris-paul-reunion-to-complete-roster

It's a positive move for the Warriors to acquire Griffin, given his popularity even though he's no longer in his prime. However, having high expectations for him seems somewhat unrealistic in my opinion, considering his performance over the last two seasons.

During his time with Brooklyn, he averaged 6.4 points per game, and in Boston, that dropped to 4.1 points per game. It appears he's approaching the twilight of his career. Nevertheless, he now has a chance to compete for a championship with the Warriors, and the encouraging aspect is that he'll do so alongside his friend CP3.

Indeed, Blake Griffin was a beast during his prime but he is nowhere near in that shape. His contributions on the court in the last few years were nothing significant. It's more about building team chemistry and mentorship in the team.

Anyway, I am not really hyped about the Warriors this coming season. Although I admit that they will always remain a dark horse knowing how deep their championship experiences are. We'll see if CP3 can turn back a few years of his game since this might be his last chance of getting a ring.

Certainly, CP3 cannot waste this opportunity to win a championship, as his performance here could significantly impact his future prospects. If he doesn't perform well, he might face challenges in finding a team willing to sign him, especially considering he will become an unrestricted free agent in 2025. The team (Warriors) traded a young and promising player for an older and experienced player; it remains to be seen whether this trade will yield positive results.
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August 26, 2023, 04:45:52 AM
What do you think about the Warriors signing Blake Griffin to a 1 year deal at the minimum to make a CP3 lob city reunion? I think it’s a great idea from a business perspective and I also think it’s a great use for your final roster spot. CP3 and Griffin definitely have a chemistry that makes them more dangerous when paired together.

https://clutchpoints.com/nba-rumors-warriors-eyeing-blake-griffin-chris-paul-reunion-to-complete-roster

It's a positive move for the Warriors to acquire Griffin, given his popularity even though he's no longer in his prime. However, having high expectations for him seems somewhat unrealistic in my opinion, considering his performance over the last two seasons.

During his time with Brooklyn, he averaged 6.4 points per game, and in Boston, that dropped to 4.1 points per game. It appears he's approaching the twilight of his career. Nevertheless, he now has a chance to compete for a championship with the Warriors, and the encouraging aspect is that he'll do so alongside his friend CP3.

Indeed, Blake Griffin was a beast during his prime but he is nowhere near in that shape. His contributions on the court in the last few years were nothing significant. It's more about building team chemistry and mentorship in the team.

Anyway, I am not really hyped about the Warriors this coming season. Although I admit that they will always remain a dark horse knowing how deep their championship experiences are. We'll see if CP3 can turn back a few years of his game since this might be his last chance of getting a ring.
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August 26, 2023, 02:53:40 AM
What do you think about the Warriors signing Blake Griffin to a 1 year deal at the minimum to make a CP3 lob city reunion? I think it’s a great idea from a business perspective and I also think it’s a great use for your final roster spot. CP3 and Griffin definitely have a chemistry that makes them more dangerous when paired together.

https://clutchpoints.com/nba-rumors-warriors-eyeing-blake-griffin-chris-paul-reunion-to-complete-roster

It's a positive move for the Warriors to acquire Griffin, given his popularity even though he's no longer in his prime. However, having high expectations for him seems somewhat unrealistic in my opinion, considering his performance over the last two seasons.

During his time with Brooklyn, he averaged 6.4 points per game, and in Boston, that dropped to 4.1 points per game. It appears he's approaching the twilight of his career. Nevertheless, he now has a chance to compete for a championship with the Warriors, and the encouraging aspect is that he'll do so alongside his friend CP3.
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August 26, 2023, 12:47:20 AM
What do you think about the Warriors signing Blake Griffin to a 1 year deal at the minimum to make a CP3 lob city reunion? I think it’s a great idea from a business perspective and I also think it’s a great use for your final roster spot. CP3 and Griffin definitely have a chemistry that makes them more dangerous when paired together.

https://clutchpoints.com/nba-rumors-warriors-eyeing-blake-griffin-chris-paul-reunion-to-complete-roster
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August 26, 2023, 12:10:55 AM
I don't think that they should be humiliated with that lost to the Heat. Miami went on to the finals against the Nuggets, it will be bad if they lost to a team that didn't even reach the finals in the East. And it could be a big lessons for Giannis in that series, and to be fair, he got injured early on that series as well.

Your point is valid. The Miami Heat were underrated in the playoffs; not only did they defeat the Bucks, but they also overcame the Celtics – both formidable teams. In fact, these two teams were considered stronger contenders for the NBA championship compared to the Nuggets. The Nuggets gained strength as the season progressed, especially with Jamal Murray returning to his old form.

As for the Bucks, it's possible they've been somewhat complacent due to their previous championship win. Their early exit from the playoffs could be frustrating for them. They've taken a significant step by replacing their coach, and with a new coach in place, there's potential for change. The Bucks might regain their momentum and return to the Finals. However, consistency and maintaining good health throughout the season will be crucial for their success.
Super underrated actually. Not many believed they could go that far, I guess it was only the hardcore fans of Jimmy Butler and the Miami Heat fans who believed they could do it.

Regarding the Bucks, you are right. They may have played with some ease because they already achieve their goal. They ain't that hungry anymore unlike the Denver Nuggets who are so actively aiming for their first championship. Butler too is desperate to have his first ring and his Finals trophy which is why he didn't try to touch the Conference Finals trophy. He wants more than that, the highest achievement of a player and his team.
This season, I think basketball analysts will do the same, they will be putting the Miami Heat in an underrated place but I bet that hunger for Butler is not done yet. One good run will make him a champion someday or maybe this year.
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August 25, 2023, 09:56:13 PM
I’m not the only one thinking it. Giannis would make such a deadly combination with Steph that I think they almost owe it to us to make it happen. If Klay decides to stick around in Golden State I don’t think his age will be a big issue. His game isn’t based on athleticism. His defense might struggle but that jump shot isn’t going anywhere.

Is this part of a trading rumor or just sharing an example of what if? Don't know anything about that rumor.

However, in general, that trade isn't possible for now as Giannis is obviously under contract with the Milwaukee Bucks with no signs of being traded (or does it even allow it?) and his player option will only be executed on his last year on his contract which is on 2025-26 season.

If that will be true though, age doesn't matter with the Splash Brothers as they just have to keep their usual way of playing and let Giannis do the aggressive push towards the basket wrecking all the defense on the way. It will be hard for any team to keep up with defense with Splash Brothers plus the Greek Freak on the offensive end. But since it's Giannis, expect the cost will also be big and the Warriors might give up either one of the Splash Brothers.
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August 25, 2023, 03:18:19 PM


I’m not the only one thinking it. Giannis would make such a deadly combination with Steph that I think they almost owe it to us to make it happen. If Klay decides to stick around in Golden State I don’t think his age will be a big issue. His game isn’t based on athleticism. His defense might struggle but that jump shot isn’t going anywhere.

But it will take a toll from the Warriors to acquire Giannis and if that trade happens today,  I think it might take Klay + Andrew Wiggins or maybe a Kuminga then future picks.

And Steph is not getting any younger and could be injury prone in the next 2-3 years. But who knows what might happen, there are a lot of unexpected trade that has happened in the past and for sure it will continue in the future. Kevin Durant to GSW, no one was expecting it, until the deal is made and they made a couple of championships along the way.

I don’t think you can trade for a player like Giannis. You have to let his contract run out and sign him. As is, they’ll have to get rid of Draymond and probably trade Wiggins to make room salary wise and still be able to build a team, but if you have the chance to pair Steph and Giannis you do it and worry about the details later. I think this is a very real possibility for the 2025 season.
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August 25, 2023, 03:06:46 PM
I don't see why he would be leaving the Bucks.  I mean maybe there's internal struggles we haven't heard about, or perhaps things I simply haven't heard about, but lets say he does..greatest team ever? I think that's a bit of a stretch.  Curry is getting old, and although he's still the greatest shooter ever, he's getting old.  Klay isn't the same player he use to be either. 

No way that team is better than the 72-10 Bulls.  Though of course I am biased.
I also definitely think that it is a little bit of a stretch to say that they will be the greatest team ever. But it can obviously be said that it will be a really good team. I know that Stephen Curry is getting old. But he does not seem to be losing his abilities any time soon. Klay is definitely not the same player that he used to be, I do agree with you on that one.

Anyway, I think it is going to be pretty interesting to see if he does decide to go to the Warriors. I am not sure if that is going to happen though.
I would say that it would be close, but also depends on how the season goes as well. First of all, he can't really go to Warriors because Warriors do not have the financials to do it, they would have to get rid of a lot of players to be able to do something like this, like even maybe Draymond would have to go (wiggins would definitely have to go) and that means that you are ruining the team to get Giannis, and in that case it becomes harder to handle it.

Secondly, we have already seen Warriors go 73-9, that is the greatest season ever, that was the best team in regular season history, evident from the result. Would Giannis coming in and everyone but Curry and Klay leaving would make them even better? I am not sure.
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August 25, 2023, 02:57:35 PM


I’m not the only one thinking it. Giannis would make such a deadly combination with Steph that I think they almost owe it to us to make it happen. If Klay decides to stick around in Golden State I don’t think his age will be a big issue. His game isn’t based on athleticism. His defense might struggle but that jump shot isn’t going anywhere.

But it will take a toll from the Warriors to acquire Giannis and if that trade happens today,  I think it might take Klay + Andrew Wiggins or maybe a Kuminga then future picks.

And Steph is not getting any younger and could be injury prone in the next 2-3 years. But who knows what might happen, there are a lot of unexpected trade that has happened in the past and for sure it will continue in the future. Kevin Durant to GSW, no one was expecting it, until the deal is made and they made a couple of championships along the way.
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August 25, 2023, 12:26:18 PM


I’m not the only one thinking it. Giannis would make such a deadly combination with Steph that I think they almost owe it to us to make it happen. If Klay decides to stick around in Golden State I don’t think his age will be a big issue. His game isn’t based on athleticism. His defense might struggle but that jump shot isn’t going anywhere.
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August 25, 2023, 11:57:20 AM
I don't see why he would be leaving the Bucks.  I mean maybe there's internal struggles we haven't heard about, or perhaps things I simply haven't heard about, but lets say he does..greatest team ever? I think that's a bit of a stretch.  Curry is getting old, and although he's still the greatest shooter ever, he's getting old.  Klay isn't the same player he use to be either. 

No way that team is better than the 72-10 Bulls.  Though of course I am biased.

I also definitely think that it is a little bit of a stretch to say that they will be the greatest team ever. But it can obviously be said that it will be a really good team. I know that Stephen Curry is getting old. But he does not seem to be losing his abilities any time soon. Klay is definitely not the same player that he used to be, I do agree with you on that one.

Anyway, I think it is going to be pretty interesting to see if he does decide to go to the Warriors. I am not sure if that is going to happen though.

I don't think we can compare the Bulls of 72-10 and the Warriors of 73-9. For one the Warriors failed after a huge lead in the finals against Lebron. And I don't think we can see another player of Jordan's caliber or Steph's power shooting that completely change the complexion of the NBA.

Klay though is still working hard with his shooting this season, he still has one of the deadliest shot in the game no doubt about it. And as this two age, they gain so much experience already.

I am not saying that they are definitely going to be the best. But I did say that they are going to be one of the best. I know that Stephen Curry is already 35 years old. And generally, at this age, the players start to show that in their performance. But Stephen Curry is still definitely going very strong. But that also raises the question of "how long is he going to perform like this?" I don’t think he will be able to continue like this for much longer.

Klay is definitely working hard. But he is also 33 years old. He is also not going to get any younger.
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August 25, 2023, 10:47:04 AM
I don't think that they should be humiliated with that lost to the Heat. Miami went on to the finals against the Nuggets, it will be bad if they lost to a team that didn't even reach the finals in the East. And it could be a big lessons for Giannis in that series, and to be fair, he got injured early on that series as well.

Your point is valid. The Miami Heat were underrated in the playoffs; not only did they defeat the Bucks, but they also overcame the Celtics – both formidable teams. In fact, these two teams were considered stronger contenders for the NBA championship compared to the Nuggets. The Nuggets gained strength as the season progressed, especially with Jamal Murray returning to his old form.

As for the Bucks, it's possible they've been somewhat complacent due to their previous championship win. Their early exit from the playoffs could be frustrating for them. They've taken a significant step by replacing their coach, and with a new coach in place, there's potential for change. The Bucks might regain their momentum and return to the Finals. However, consistency and maintaining good health throughout the season will be crucial for their success.

And yeah, they are amongst the favorites in the East together with Boston and Sixers, and they were all eliminated. And you can see the frustrations of Giannis in the post game interview.

But not sure if he is willing to get out of the Bucks, he has been somewhat in the best position still, and maybe the next season will be the biggest test for Giannis if he can bring the Bucks to the finals again and then we can talk about his trade or what will be Bucks management will do if they don't make it next season.

They could've made it or at least gave the Heat a much harder time before the latter can overcome them but Giannis was just unfortunate because he faced an unforeseen injury in the Game 1 which resulted to a terrible series loss against the Heat, he managed to return but it was too late because the team was already in the deep mess while the Heat was advancing every game while they are still on the advantage.

It will be an interesting season for the Bucks this coming season and I know they can make it to the playoffs again if they can retain their consistency without having any troublesome injuries along the road.
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August 25, 2023, 10:05:26 AM
I don't think that they should be humiliated with that lost to the Heat. Miami went on to the finals against the Nuggets, it will be bad if they lost to a team that didn't even reach the finals in the East. And it could be a big lessons for Giannis in that series, and to be fair, he got injured early on that series as well.

Your point is valid. The Miami Heat were underrated in the playoffs; not only did they defeat the Bucks, but they also overcame the Celtics – both formidable teams. In fact, these two teams were considered stronger contenders for the NBA championship compared to the Nuggets. The Nuggets gained strength as the season progressed, especially with Jamal Murray returning to his old form.

As for the Bucks, it's possible they've been somewhat complacent due to their previous championship win. Their early exit from the playoffs could be frustrating for them. They've taken a significant step by replacing their coach, and with a new coach in place, there's potential for change. The Bucks might regain their momentum and return to the Finals. However, consistency and maintaining good health throughout the season will be crucial for their success.

And yeah, they are amongst the favorites in the East together with Boston and Sixers, and they were all eliminated. And you can see the frustrations of Giannis in the post game interview.

But not sure if he is willing to get out of the Bucks, he has been somewhat in the best position still, and maybe the next season will be the biggest test for Giannis if he can bring the Bucks to the finals again and then we can talk about his trade or what will be Bucks management will do if they don't make it next season.
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August 25, 2023, 09:48:34 AM
New York Times is reporting a quote from Giannis Antetokounmpo where he alludes to signing with a new team for the first time ever. Definitely trouble for the Bucks. He’s going to play for them this year, but to me it sounds like he’s preparing them for a departure after the season. If he goes to the Warriors and pairs with Curry, it will be the greatest team ever built.

I don't see why he would be leaving the Bucks.  I mean maybe there's internal struggles we haven't heard about, or perhaps things I simply haven't heard about, but lets say he does..greatest team ever? I think that's a bit of a stretch.  Curry is getting old, and although he's still the greatest shooter ever, he's getting old.  Klay isn't the same player he use to be either. 

No way that team is better than the 72-10 Bulls.  Though of course I am biased.

I think the reason he will gonna leave bucks is because they been beaten by 8th seed. He's just bitter he can't do what he do before. Joining a warriors for what? I don't think he will be playing on warrios though but who knows. curry will retire anytime soon once he became a hall of famer.

I'm thinking that maybe he don't have any plan to leave Bucks. He just want to challenge his management and his teammates since just like what you said that is really a frustrating lose they encounter last season. Many think that they finish strong and can reach the finals but unexpectedly they are been eliminated.

But if things fall in bad place maybe he might really do that but I don't believe that he will go to Warriors since they might lose a lot of asset just to get Giannis on their team.
Yes, not sure who will be available in the trading block if the Warriors pursue Giannis in the future or if Giannis ask for a trade and wanted to be in the Warriors uniform. But maybe this is just another way to wake up the Bucks management,  they still have a good rotation and solid team, but perhaps some pieces might have to move so that the team will also move forward in the future. And I do think that Giannis will be the last person to move out of the team, its not Middleton got injured and perhaps not the same again when he comes back last season.

We don't know if how things will take place or it's just the way how Giannis wanted to negotiate with his next paycheck,
maybe he's just doing this stuff to make something big.

We all know how huge those contracts extension and from other stars and players who just made them richer than what they have before.

Just going to wait if what might happen to this rumor if Giannis is serious with his statement.
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August 25, 2023, 09:47:42 AM
New York Times is reporting a quote from Giannis Antetokounmpo where he alludes to signing with a new team for the first time ever. Definitely trouble for the Bucks. He’s going to play for them this year, but to me it sounds like he’s preparing them for a departure after the season. If he goes to the Warriors and pairs with Curry, it will be the greatest team ever built.

I don't see why he would be leaving the Bucks.  I mean maybe there's internal struggles we haven't heard about, or perhaps things I simply haven't heard about, but lets say he does..greatest team ever? I think that's a bit of a stretch.  Curry is getting old, and although he's still the greatest shooter ever, he's getting old.  Klay isn't the same player he use to be either. 

No way that team is better than the 72-10 Bulls.  Though of course I am biased.

I think the reason he will gonna leave bucks is because they been beaten by 8th seed. He's just bitter he can't do what he do before. Joining a warriors for what? I don't think he will be playing on warrios though but who knows. curry will retire anytime soon once he became a hall of famer.

I'm thinking that maybe he don't have any plan to leave Bucks. He just want to challenge his management and his teammates since just like what you said that is really a frustrating lose they encounter last season. Many think that they finish strong and can reach the finals but unexpectedly they are been eliminated.

But if things fall in bad place maybe he might really do that but I don't believe that he will go to Warriors since they might lose a lot of asset just to get Giannis on their team.

It wouldn't be that surprising anymore if he choose to speak up and ask for a trade next summer if the team will still fail because he is already making a warning. He may or may not do it but the team should be worry because without Giannis on their team, they already know what's next and it might take a while before they can appear and play in the post-season again.
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August 25, 2023, 08:15:32 AM
New York Times is reporting a quote from Giannis Antetokounmpo where he alludes to signing with a new team for the first time ever. Definitely trouble for the Bucks. He’s going to play for them this year, but to me it sounds like he’s preparing them for a departure after the season. If he goes to the Warriors and pairs with Curry, it will be the greatest team ever built.

I don't see why he would be leaving the Bucks.  I mean maybe there's internal struggles we haven't heard about, or perhaps things I simply haven't heard about, but lets say he does..greatest team ever? I think that's a bit of a stretch.  Curry is getting old, and although he's still the greatest shooter ever, he's getting old.  Klay isn't the same player he use to be either. 

No way that team is better than the 72-10 Bulls.  Though of course I am biased.

I also definitely think that it is a little bit of a stretch to say that they will be the greatest team ever. But it can obviously be said that it will be a really good team. I know that Stephen Curry is getting old. But he does not seem to be losing his abilities any time soon. Klay is definitely not the same player that he used to be, I do agree with you on that one.

Anyway, I think it is going to be pretty interesting to see if he does decide to go to the Warriors. I am not sure if that is going to happen though.

I don't think we can compare the Bulls of 72-10 and the Warriors of 73-9. For one the Warriors failed after a huge lead in the finals against Lebron. And I don't think we can see another player of Jordan's caliber or Steph's power shooting that completely change the complexion of the NBA.

Klay though is still working hard with his shooting this season, he still has one of the deadliest shot in the game no doubt about it. And as this two age, they gain so much experience already.
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August 25, 2023, 07:56:02 AM
Well, the Pelicans knew what they were getting when they drafted Zion. He was injured in his last game in Duke and if I am right, he was also injured when they drafted him.

Although Zion has only recently started his NBA career, he already has a pretty impressive list of injuries. I decided to check some websites about it, and it looks like he had a right knee torn meniscus in 2019, right knee soreness in 2020, a right-hand thumb sprain, and a right foot injury in 2021, and now he has a hamstring injury. In any case, you're right that the Pelicans were probably aware of all the risks when they selected him in the draft.
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August 25, 2023, 07:07:21 AM
New York Times is reporting a quote from Giannis Antetokounmpo where he alludes to signing with a new team for the first time ever. Definitely trouble for the Bucks. He’s going to play for them this year, but to me it sounds like he’s preparing them for a departure after the season. If he goes to the Warriors and pairs with Curry, it will be the greatest team ever built.

I don't see why he would be leaving the Bucks.  I mean maybe there's internal struggles we haven't heard about, or perhaps things I simply haven't heard about, but lets say he does..greatest team ever? I think that's a bit of a stretch.  Curry is getting old, and although he's still the greatest shooter ever, he's getting old.  Klay isn't the same player he use to be either. 

No way that team is better than the 72-10 Bulls.  Though of course I am biased.

I also definitely think that it is a little bit of a stretch to say that they will be the greatest team ever. But it can obviously be said that it will be a really good team. I know that Stephen Curry is getting old. But he does not seem to be losing his abilities any time soon. Klay is definitely not the same player that he used to be, I do agree with you on that one.

Anyway, I think it is going to be pretty interesting to see if he does decide to go to the Warriors. I am not sure if that is going to happen though.
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August 25, 2023, 06:48:04 AM
I don't think that they should be humiliated with that lost to the Heat. Miami went on to the finals against the Nuggets, it will be bad if they lost to a team that didn't even reach the finals in the East. And it could be a big lessons for Giannis in that series, and to be fair, he got injured early on that series as well.

Your point is valid. The Miami Heat were underrated in the playoffs; not only did they defeat the Bucks, but they also overcame the Celtics – both formidable teams. In fact, these two teams were considered stronger contenders for the NBA championship compared to the Nuggets. The Nuggets gained strength as the season progressed, especially with Jamal Murray returning to his old form.

As for the Bucks, it's possible they've been somewhat complacent due to their previous championship win. Their early exit from the playoffs could be frustrating for them. They've taken a significant step by replacing their coach, and with a new coach in place, there's potential for change. The Bucks might regain their momentum and return to the Finals. However, consistency and maintaining good health throughout the season will be crucial for their success.
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