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Quote from: Ziskinberg on July 27, 2023, 12:27:17 AM

I would also bet on the Warriors next season. With CP3 on their roster, it will not be hard for them to score, as he is one of the best passers in the NBA. CP3, along with Curry and Thompson, will likely create plenty of open opportunities for scoring, and Curry won't tire easily since he won't have to carry the ball all the time.

I'm not sure if they will play him as a starter, but if they do, that's my perspective.

I like that factor in how CP3 will help the Warriors, the Splash bro shooting capabilities can be maximized.

Knowing how good CP3 is in terms of finding the open man the best fit for the position
and adding to that, he is also a big threat when the opponent focus with him only passing
the ball as he can also shoot and have that good percentage making the basket. Looking
forward to the Warriors run in this upcoming season

I don’t know. I guess we’ll have to wait and see. I think Chris Paul will see the lowest usage rate of his career and at his age being inactive isn’t the best thing. While I think he will be big for them in the regular season and give the team a chance to win without Curry on the floor, I don’t think he’ll be able to hold up in the playoffs at his age. He isn’t LeBron.

I'm also one of those who doubt the effectives of CP3 in GSW. Besides, they are still undersized, they just can't win championship again with Kevon as their only center, he himself is also an undersized man in his position, I mean he's listed as 6'9. Though he grabs a good number of rebounds but I think he'd be more effective in his natural position. The Lakers exposed how to beat an undersized team last playoffs.
IMO, they still need to have a legitimate big man who can complete the starting five for the GSW, who can also play both defense and offense.
If they are able to acquire that player, I'd be comfortable to say that the GSW will have another good chances in winning another championship.

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They already gained valuable experience last season, so perhaps they will perform like the Kings, who made it to the playoffs and posed a significant challenge to the defending champions, the Warriors.

Yeah, that's right. They reached the play-in tournament, and nobody expected it to happen since they are rebuilding and competing in the West, where most of the NBA contenders are located. SGA led the team to success, and now that they have experience, they'll learn from it. Next season, they will likely improve, especially if SGA receives that contract; for sure, he will be very inspired to play for his team.

His stats last season were very impressive.

31.4 PPG
5.5 APG

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Quote from: Jating on July 26, 2023, 10:14:04 PM

I read a news today but I'm not sure if it's true.
Oklahoma City Thunder player Shai Gilgeous-Alexander will become the first NBA player in history to sign a $400 Million contract.

Source: CBS Sport

It's seems that NBA player is doing a catch up with football stars in terms of contract and salary. And we can't deny that SGA is really the franchise player for OKC now, we just hope that it's worth that money for the OKC management.

If only SGA is their big player, then it might be difficult for him to lift the team up. He needs help although they still have last year's rookie in Chet who hasn't seen any other yet because he got injured but he will be back this season.

SGA deserves to have a max contract as he had an MVP-worthy performance last season. He has improved remarkably fast, and his style of play involves his teammates, making them better. He is also clutch, so they can consider him their main star when negotiating the contract. I'm just hoping that OKC, as a team, will improve more next season. They already gained valuable experience last season, so perhaps they will perform like the Kings, who made it to the playoffs and posed a significant challenge to the defending champions, the Warriors.

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Quote from: harizen on July 25, 2023, 06:54:12 PM

I read a news today but I'm not sure if it's true.
Oklahoma City Thunder player Shai Gilgeous-Alexander will become the first NBA player in history to sign a $400 Million contract.

Source: CBS Sport

It's seems that NBA player is doing a catch up with football stars in terms of contract and salary. And we can't deny that SGA is really the franchise player for OKC now, we just hope that it's worth that money for the OKC management.

If only SGA is their big player, then it might be difficult for him to lift the team up. He needs help although they still have last year's rookie in Chet who hasn't seen any other yet because he got injured but he will be back this season.

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Quote from: passwordnow on July 24, 2023, 08:39:27 AM

I am not sure why there is this trend of retired great players having the comparison of their careers to the ones that have also retired. Like having a great player on their roster when they're in their prime. I am talking about Pierce talking about Wade he's saying he could do the same as Dwayne did and will probably have a better run because of having good teammates. I have no idea why there are beefs like this or it's just to make themselves relevant from the news we're having in the NBA.

Just take it with a grain of salt, bro.

Veterans will always have to say to each other regardless if those are towards their fellow retired players or active players. Wade and Pierce have lots of trash-talking during their active days and Heat and Celtics have formed a rivalry too during both players' prime seasons.

Anyhow, Pierce also clarified that he is not comparing himself to Dwayne Wade and the respect is always there.

“I never compared myself to Dwyane Wade, I was asked a question how would u answer if u were me I would never disrespect him he is an all-time great. All I’m saying is the narrative surrounding me would be different if I was lucky enough to play with all-timers earlier in my career.”

At least that's clear now that it was just the narrative that he's got if both of them are still around. Well, the game changes, and the plays are also evolving. But yes, I'll take it next time with a grain of salt because that just made me curious why they have to say such things and if they weren't asked for it, they won't say anything. They're both great players and there's no doubt about it and I like it when there's a respect despite there's a lot of trashtalks.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on July 26, 2023, 11:57:26 AM

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He became the living proof that the NBA can be made without being drafted. I hope he will be successful there.

It is an undeniable truth that the veracity of the matter resonates deeply. Notably, his performance has exhibited commendable qualities. Well, what am I saying, his performance has to be good to actually be brought in by the Chicago Bulls. I also hope that he will be able to become successful in the NBA.

A few people are actually saying that Chicago Bulls might have not made the right decision. But I think it actually was a good decision. If it is the right decision or not, we will be able to see in the future. He is only 24. So he has time on his side. And I also hope he will be able to improve.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on July 26, 2023, 04:38:55 PM

Quote from: SquallLeonhart on July 26, 2023, 03:21:50 PM

The fact that Jaylen Brown got 300 million contract with 60 million a year as his biggest and the biggest in NBA history during the period when Mbappe was offered 200+ just for a single year showed the basketball players what kind of money happens in football world.

I mean we already have players like Ronaldo and Benzema making that, and it is estimated that Messi will probably make a ton of money when it's said and done as well, between ownership of the club (not all of it, just partnership) and adidas and apple deals, I bet that it is going to be a huge one there too. In any case, good for Jaylen Brown to get what he can, there is nothing wrong with players wanting more money, they deserve it and they should get it.

It's quite the luxurious place for athletes to be and Mbappe is the living proof of that, Ronaldo likely opens this opportunity. So we do hope a Saudi Arabian controlled basketball team? I know there are talks opening new teams in the NBA but is there possibility that these luxurious offers to players be made in basketball as well?

A pretty crazy consequence of our oil dependence on the Middle East if you ask me. We’ve been sending them money for so long, they’re just going to buy our society right out from under us. It’s been happening for quite some time already but it appears that we’re (the west) about to lose popular culture as artists and athletes flee the states for more money. I think 10 years from now pro sports will start looking a lot different.

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Quote from: SquallLeonhart on July 26, 2023, 03:21:50 PM

The fact that Jaylen Brown got 300 million contract with 60 million a year as his biggest and the biggest in NBA history during the period when Mbappe was offered 200+ just for a single year showed the basketball players what kind of money happens in football world.

I mean we already have players like Ronaldo and Benzema making that, and it is estimated that Messi will probably make a ton of money when it's said and done as well, between ownership of the club (not all of it, just partnership) and adidas and apple deals, I bet that it is going to be a huge one there too. In any case, good for Jaylen Brown to get what he can, there is nothing wrong with players wanting more money, they deserve it and they should get it.

It's quite the luxurious place for athletes to be and Mbappe is the living proof of that, Ronaldo likely opens this opportunity. So we do hope a Saudi Arabian controlled basketball team? I know there are talks opening new teams in the NBA but is there possibility that these luxurious offers to players be made in basketball as well?

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I read a news today but I'm not sure if it's true.
Oklahoma City Thunder player Shai Gilgeous-Alexander will become the first NBA player in history to sign a $400 Million contract.

Source: CBS Sport

If I'm him, I'll take that offer. It's crazy to see that these contracts have been increasing over time and this is what an NBA player wants to have. It doesn't matter who are your teammates and if your team is a caliber to take the title.

But that's up to the management if they'll be giving some other players a chance to play with him and get an upgrade from their roster. So, aside from Jaylen, it's gonna be him that will get a max contract.

I am sure that these contracts not just given to NBA but also with the hype ones through Mbappe is giving everyone the inspiration to play at their best.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on July 26, 2023, 09:38:17 AM

I read a news today but I'm not sure if it's true.
Oklahoma City Thunder player Shai Gilgeous-Alexander will become the first NBA player in history to sign a $400 Million contract.

Source: CBS Sport

If he signs back with okc he will sign the super max whatever it is at that time. It's not like baseball where you have an open ended salary with no cap basketball does. Which means they can only make the max amount. Shai will command the max which will creep up every year. So will every other player who gets the superman at that time. Dollar figures are getting crazy but I guess it's all reletive.

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The fact that Jaylen Brown got 300 million contract with 60 million a year as his biggest and the biggest in NBA history during the period when Mbappe was offered 200+ just for a single year showed the basketball players what kind of money happens in football world.

I mean we already have players like Ronaldo and Benzema making that, and it is estimated that Messi will probably make a ton of money when it's said and done as well, between ownership of the club (not all of it, just partnership) and adidas and apple deals, I bet that it is going to be a huge one there too. In any case, good for Jaylen Brown to get what he can, there is nothing wrong with players wanting more money, they deserve it and they should get it.

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I read a news today but I'm not sure if it's true.
Oklahoma City Thunder player Shai Gilgeous-Alexander will become the first NBA player in history to sign a $400 Million contract.

Source: CBS Sport

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Quote from: danherbias07 on July 26, 2023, 02:30:29 AM

Quote from: harizen on July 25, 2023, 06:54:12 PM

Moving forward, Tatum is also expected to have the same huge max contract in his final year with the team and not exercise his rights on his Player Option.

Well, that should be given. They cannot just let Tatum be left with a contract that is lower than the number 2. Cheesy

He also did so much for the team I think he will be the future of it if they want a higher possibility of a championship. Locker room issues will become the Celtics' management problem if they won't do the same favor for him.

Brown's agent made a great job in securing the deal. I wonder how the negotiations went on as Brown is not a top-10 player. Yet it somehow managed to just slightly edge Steph Curry as the highest paid in the NBA this coming season.

I was surprised as well as why Jaylen Brown was eligible to sign that much contract if he didn't belong in the Top 10. I know that he's a good Celtic's player and undoubtedly blend well with Tatum but I just can't help but think that how he did he do that. And so I think that maybe the Celtics was just too afraid to see the time where he will ask for a trade since he already gave some signs last season.

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With that new deal, pretty sure Jason Tatum get his own version and it will be bigger than Brown unless he is willing to sacrifice millions of dollars in order for the team to save money. And there are also the other superstars that will demand higher pay once they are qualified for new deals.

No doubt about that because if Brown managed to sign a deal like that, I won't be surprised if Tatum's camp will also ask the same thing or even much more than that as he is the alpha of the team.

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National basketball player Onuralp Bitim, who made a name for himself with his performances in Anadolu Efes and Pınar Karşıyaka, signed a contract with the Chicago Bulls. I hope he can stay in the NBA. We are proud to see another young Turkish player in the NBA.

The good statistics in Bursa and European cups in the last season obviously attracted the attention of the scouts. Onuralp participated in the draft in 2021 but wasn't selected. He became the living proof that the NBA can be made without being drafted. I hope he will be successful there.

https://twitter.com/OnuralpBitim/status/1683926206335574016

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 26, 2023, 10:19:55 AM

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I would also bet on the Warriors next season. With CP3 on their roster, it will not be hard for them to score, as he is one of the best passers in the NBA. CP3, along with Curry and Thompson, will likely create plenty of open opportunities for scoring, and Curry won't tire easily since he won't have to carry the ball all the time.

I'm not sure if they will play him as a starter, but if they do, that's my perspective.

I like that factor in how CP3 will help the Warriors, the Splash bro shooting capabilities can be maximized.

Knowing how good CP3 is in terms of finding the open man the best fit for the position
and adding to that, he is also a big threat when the opponent focus with him only passing
the ball as he can also shoot and have that good percentage making the basket. Looking
forward to the Warriors run in this upcoming season

I don’t know. I guess we’ll have to wait and see. I think Chris Paul will see the lowest usage rate of his career and at his age being inactive isn’t the best thing. While I think he will be big for them in the regular season and give the team a chance to win without Curry on the floor, I don’t think he’ll be able to hold up in the playoffs at his age. He isn’t LeBron.

I know it's hard to digest that but unfortunately for the fans, Chris Paul is not the same CP3 anymore that is known as the point god. He can be of any help for the Warriors, yes, but there is a fine limit on what he can just do these days. He will be good in the regular season, I'll give him that in advance but when the league will be tougher and more intense, I don't think he can live with the hype.

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Quote from: Yogee on July 25, 2023, 11:23:14 AM

I would also bet on the Warriors next season. With CP3 on their roster, it will not be hard for them to score, as he is one of the best passers in the NBA. CP3, along with Curry and Thompson, will likely create plenty of open opportunities for scoring, and Curry won't tire easily since he won't have to carry the ball all the time.

I'm not sure if they will play him as a starter, but if they do, that's my perspective.

I like that factor in how CP3 will help the Warriors, the Splash bro shooting capabilities can be maximized.

Knowing how good CP3 is in terms of finding the open man the best fit for the position
and adding to that, he is also a big threat when the opponent focus with him only passing
the ball as he can also shoot and have that good percentage making the basket. Looking
forward to the Warriors run in this upcoming season

I don’t know. I guess we’ll have to wait and see. I think Chris Paul will see the lowest usage rate of his career and at his age being inactive isn’t the best thing. While I think he will be big for them in the regular season and give the team a chance to win without Curry on the floor, I don’t think he’ll be able to hold up in the playoffs at his age. He isn’t LeBron.

Yeah, I think it's inevitable, he is not getting any younger and he doesn't have the athletic body of a Lebron to stay healthy. So he might be used sparingly by Kerr, but maybe him and Curry will be on the same floor at times.

Curry used to bring the ball, but this time if they both played then the majority of the ball handling will be on Chris Paul now. But I don't see it as a bad sign for the Warriors. On the other hand, it might help Curry and Klay more because if Paul will be the point guard then it will somewhat help specially Steph to preserve his energy and have more on the gas tank entering 4th quarter.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 25, 2023, 11:01:02 AM

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Given that he isn’t the most talented player in the league, I suspect the next couple of years are going to have some contracts that will begin to rival global soccer stars.

I doubt that but maybe it will happen if oil money enters the NBA. French football star Kylian Mbappe has been recently offered by a Saudi team with an annual salary of $221M and that could rise to $774M according to reports so compare that to the $304M 5-year deal. I read that even Lebron and Draymond jokes about moving to Saudi after that news.

I don't expect salaries of top paid footballers in Europe to stagnate given the sponsors their league and team gets. It will only go higher in the next couple of years.

Yes mate, it's not really possible because NBA is not sponsored by any petrostate/country and which mean that NBA and its franchises will literally have a hard time if they are going to compete with how football league works, specially Saudi Professional League as they were the ones who can afford to give such contracts to any known football stars.

I'll give a rough comparison; Kylian Mbappe was offered by Al-Hilal with a 1-year deal worth a staggering $776 Million while our very own LeBron James just earned a total of $531 Million in his whole basketball career.

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I would also bet on the Warriors next season. With CP3 on their roster, it will not be hard for them to score, as he is one of the best passers in the NBA. CP3, along with Curry and Thompson, will likely create plenty of open opportunities for scoring, and Curry won't tire easily since he won't have to carry the ball all the time.

I'm not sure if they will play him as a starter, but if they do, that's my perspective.

I like that factor in how CP3 will help the Warriors, the Splash bro shooting capabilities can be maximized.

Knowing how good CP3 is in terms of finding the open man the best fit for the position
and adding to that, he is also a big threat when the opponent focus with him only passing
the ball as he can also shoot and have that good percentage making the basket. Looking
forward to the Warriors run in this upcoming season

I don’t know. I guess we’ll have to wait and see. I think Chris Paul will see the lowest usage rate of his career and at his age being inactive isn’t the best thing. While I think he will be big for them in the regular season and give the team a chance to win without Curry on the floor, I don’t think he’ll be able to hold up in the playoffs at his age. He isn’t LeBron.

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