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August 28, 2023, 03:25:40 PM
Against a team with deadly offensive guards, GSW will be forced to bench CP3. Actually, it is okay to bench him since he is already 38 and will be 40 by the end of his contract. The issue though is that CP3 will be paid $30 million per year which is too high for someone to play 20sh minutes per game, especially during the playoffs if they can qualify.

Anyway, it remains to be seen if this GSW experiment will work. I still value young Poole over CP3 but I understand that GSW needs to let go of him since they prefer Draymond.
Yes, no doubt that Jordan Poole has a good contribution to them when they have a championship run. Nevertheless, last season was very different as Draymond and Poole has a scuffle prior to the season and it set the tone for the Warriors and then they completely collapse after the first round. I thought that the issues has been solved already.

But it seems that it was still very evident as we have seen Poole complaining every time he didn't got the ball and then he was bench by Kerr. As for CP3, maybe a good 10 minutes or even 15 minutes might be good for him as a Warrior as he is no longer at his prime and could also be prone to injury.
I would guess that keeping Draymond is a proof that there is going to be hard time for them going forward. Why is that? Well Poole was the one that got punched, but they still sent him away and did not back him up and just wanted to protect Draymond in that situation.

I can understand the loyalty because he is the guy they won 4 rings with and he is the master at the passing for klay and curry and memorized all the plays and does all the dirty things that others can't do to keep them clean etc etc. But that doesn't mean that other players will not see this and go "well I could be punched there and kicked off" and just not want to go there. I would guess this was a tough decision, they made the wrong one emotionally, but probably the right one by the team.
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He will have less weight on his shoulders, as Curry, an MVP himself, can also carry the team. I would like to see this happen, as it would bring back the unstoppable Warriors.
He'll have someone who can he rely to and there's no doubt with that. Both have their own championship experiences and became champions so a combination of that and relying to each other's strength will definitely something big to get troubled with by other teams.

This is what everyone was talking about when Giannis expresses his thoughts regarding his relationship with the Bucks. Everybody wants to see Giannis and Curry play together. To be honest, Giannis addition to the GSW will automatically buy them a ticket at the finals and the Warriors will become relevant again. Could this be better than when KD was with the Warriors? That's what I was thinking about. Though for sure, this will open up a lot of wide open threes for Curry as Giannis can't be stop with 1 man defending the paint.

The amount of assets the Warriors would have to give up even if the Bucks would ever come sidereal trading him would flatten the team.  Who would even want theor first round picks since they will always hover around the 30s if all went well.  That would be bad for the NBA if giannis landed on the Warriors somehow without giving up any of theor core group.
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He will have less weight on his shoulders, as Curry, an MVP himself, can also carry the team. I would like to see this happen, as it would bring back the unstoppable Warriors.
He'll have someone who can he rely to and there's no doubt with that. Both have their own championship experiences and became champions so a combination of that and relying to each other's strength will definitely something big to get troubled with by other teams.

This is what everyone was talking about when Giannis expresses his thoughts regarding his relationship with the Bucks. Everybody wants to see Giannis and Curry play together. To be honest, Giannis addition to the GSW will automatically buy them a ticket at the finals and the Warriors will become relevant again. Could this be better than when KD was with the Warriors? That's what I was thinking about. Though for sure, this will open up a lot of wide open threes for Curry as Giannis can't be stop with 1 man defending the paint.
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August 28, 2023, 12:58:12 PM
Curry and Giannis would definitely pose a threat to other superteams. Even the Suns, I don't think, could defeat the Warriors in the playoffs. Giannis improves when the players around him contribute to securing a win.
There's shooting outside and take it inside for Giannis, this is a monster duo, to be honest. So with all the rumors rotating that Giannis has some plans to exit the Bucks are going to be a pain in the ass of the team. His being an asset to the team would hardly be replaced by any other star. These two are always hungry to take the title for every season and that will push them for more.

He will have less weight on his shoulders, as Curry, an MVP himself, can also carry the team. I would like to see this happen, as it would bring back the unstoppable Warriors.
He'll have someone who can he rely to and there's no doubt with that. Both have their own championship experiences and became champions so a combination of that and relying to each other's strength will definitely something big to get troubled with by other teams.
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August 28, 2023, 12:41:34 PM
He can still play as starter depends on how coach Kerr will design the play. I think Klay can give that spot and bring both Curry and CP3 to the starting unit.

Or maybe they have a good plan of placing CP3 in the second squad to bring good command while
Curry is resting, we don't know what's the plan is but for sure they already building and developing
chemistries to make sure that they are well prepared when the upcoming season starts.

I think they will experiment with the combination of their current roster and find out which starter will produce the best result.  Personally, I think it is best if CP3 comes out from the bench giving Steph his rest. CP3 is a good leader and floor general, so even with the secondary unit, he can still work wonders. But I am also interested to see CP3 and Steph both on the floor. As they stated, Steph can play off the ball and his constant movement on the court will confuse the opponents. While CP3 runs the floor, he can easily find a good assist to Steph. The Warriors already have good ball rotation, it will be pushed to another level with CP3 on the floor.

But if you look at it, Warriors had like Draymond Green, Looney and their recent addition in Saric to play the big center position. Only Looney though plays that spot and so if they wanted to have another center, Blake might not be a good fit even if he will be sign for a one-year contract.

Warriors should get a real center, 7'0 just like what they had in the past in their championship team to make it a complete roster. If I'm not mistaken, there are still a lot of good centers around that they can choose from, not a wash up player like Blake Griffin (no offense to his fans).

I wonder if this will work. That will put the average age of the Warriors older. And with age, the plays will be slower. I do not think it will be good for the Warriors to go slower pace. If they want a true center, they should get younger centers.

Call me old fashioned but I liked the old nba with these superstars carrying the team alone. On the other hand, CP3 at his current old age would be perfect for Warriors. I would like to see him there and he can win a championship in his last years. How many years he has left anyways? Is this year can be his last year?

I am with you on this. I also do not want superstars teaming up together just to get a ring. It is still best to see franchise players sticking with their team and winning championships with their team. Sometimes stars are not rewarded with a championship but I admire their loyalty to their team. Very few of them superstars are like that right now.

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Even if he is a backup, I don't think he will be suited for the Warriors style of play. I mean when he did play with the Nets, he was seldom used as a backup as well, even as a Celtics.

So for me, it's a bad choice for the Warriors, they should at least get a legitimate center out there, a lot actually in the field that could still be available at a veteran minimum.

First of all, I think it is not actually very smart to ask for a lot from a player that you are going to use as a backup. And that’s why I actually said that probably it is going to be better for them if they do not expect too much from him. And that is also the reason why I thought it was not going to be that bad for them to be honest. Now we also have to understand that expectations might actually change from a player at any given time. So I think that is something which should be kept in mind.



Are we talking about Blake Griffin or Chris Paul? If it's Griffin, there are still some time for the Warriors to find that right center for the team and they don't need to acquire Griffin as he cannot really contribute that well towards the team anymore, there's no need to rush because they still have a newly additional, CP3, who they still need to make an adjustment and some experiments to work some things out before the league gets harder as the end of the season is approaching.

We're all talking about Blake Griffin. And I actually like what you are saying. Instead of bringing in a player that is not going to contribute much to the team and probably not be usable as a player that will impact the game a lot, I believe that it is going to be a better idea to bring in someone who will genuinely impact the team positively. I do believe that they need to find a better player and that will most probably be the right decision. And Blake Griffin is still good, but definitely not the same player that he used to be.
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August 28, 2023, 09:49:41 AM
CP3 "was" a top 10 PG, he is no longer there at all and there are plenty of other better point guards right now, the problem is that Kerr may have some problems on the long run if he keeps thinking that he could keep CP3 benched for too long, he is going to be forced to play him and the situation could be decent if curry was a good defender but he is not, he is pure offense type of guy.

What I think he means to do is to get Draymond and CP3 different minutes as much as he can, or even same times for short period of times, and get klay and curry running around and CP3 to find them open, he will be the ball arrier and pass guy, and then find people with open shots. That "may" work, but it is going to be tough to handle.

Against a team with deadly offensive guards, GSW will be forced to bench CP3. Actually, it is okay to bench him since he is already 38 and will be 40 by the end of his contract. The issue though is that CP3 will be paid $30 million per year which is too high for someone to play 20sh minutes per game, especially during the playoffs if they can qualify.

Anyway, it remains to be seen if this GSW experiment will work. I still value young Poole over CP3 but I understand that GSW needs to let go of him since they prefer Draymond.
Yes, no doubt that Jordan Poole has a good contribution to them when they have a championship run. Nevertheless, last season was very different as Draymond and Poole has a scuffle prior to the season and it set the tone for the Warriors and then they completely collapse after the first round. I thought that the issues has been solved already.

But it seems that it was still very evident as we have seen Poole complaining every time he didn't got the ball and then he was bench by Kerr. As for CP3, maybe a good 10 minutes or even 15 minutes might be good for him as a Warrior as he is no longer at his prime and could also be prone to injury.
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August 28, 2023, 08:17:48 AM

Secondly, CP3 is still not a smart choice if you ask me, you should not get him as a second unit leader, he was a great player all up until this season and suddenly this season he will be a bench player? You have Curry there, you can't make them both play together all that frequently, so what's going to happen? It is going to be a tough deal and lets see what happens but I think both CP3 and Blake Griffin situation is a weird one and should not be considered good additions.

I think he will be in the second unit for the Warriors, maybe coming off the bench to give relieved to Curry. Maybe they can play both at the same time. But for Griffin, it's not going to be good for him, it's a far stretch if he will be given like 10 minutes to play every game by Steve Kerr.

Maybe Coach Steve Kerr has a plan. CP3 is a top 10 PG in my book, and Curry can't handle point duties all the time due to potential fatigue. Given Curry's skill at off-ball movement, he becomes an excellent target for CP3, who can consistently find opportunities for him to shoot.

I'm unclear about him being relegated to the 2nd unit, as he's a bona fide star player; he might contribute more as a starter, considering his abilities.

Anyway, let's find out together once the season starts.

I don’t think anyone is going to complain if he is brought in as a back up. He is definitely going to be a very good backup. But if he is brought in as a main player, whom the team is going to have to rely on a lot, I think that’s when problems will start. He is definitely getting a lot older and he is not going to avoid as much performance as the team is going to expect from him. He was definitely a great player, but it is also not going to be unfair to assume that he is not the player that he was in the past. If the team is not expecting too much from him, I don’t think they are going to be in any kind of trouble. But if the team is asking for a lot from him, I think problems will start.

Even if he is a backup, I don't think he will be suited for the Warriors style of play. I mean when he did play with the Nets, he was seldom used as a backup as well, even as a Celtics.

So for me, it's a bad choice for the Warriors, they should at least get a legitimate center out there, a lot actually in the field that could still be available at a veteran minimum.
Are we talking about Blake Griffin or Chris Paul? If it's Griffin, there are still some time for the Warriors to find that right center for the team and they don't need to acquire Griffin as he cannot really contribute that well towards the team anymore, there's no need to rush because they still have a newly additional, CP3, who they still need to make an adjustment and some experiments to work some things out before the league gets harder as the end of the season is approaching.
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Paul is undoubtedly one of the best point guards in NBA history,  at least because he ranks third for assists. He is behind only Kidd and Stockton. So, I think it will be interesting to see how the Paul-Curry duo will perform in the upcoming season. Paul will most likely contribute to Curry, as well as Thompson, throwing more wide-open three-pointers.

Undoubtedly, he will contribute some experience and skills and I think it will significantly increase the chance of GSW to get back to the NBA finals once again. They really need to fix their team right now because their last season's performance was not really good and even if they managed to beat the Lakers that time, they cannot beat the destined champion Denver Nuggets because they are losing their focus due to the fact of their not getting the best play from Pooles and the splash brothers also not doing well that time.
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August 28, 2023, 05:08:14 AM
Curry and Giannis would definitely pose a threat to other superteams. Even the Suns, I don't think, could defeat the Warriors in the playoffs. Giannis improves when the players around him contribute to securing a win. He will have less weight on his shoulders, as Curry, an MVP himself, can also carry the team. I would like to see this happen, as it would bring back the unstoppable Warriors.

How many years he has left anyways? Is this year can be his last year?

After the 2024-2025 season, he will become an UFA.
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August 28, 2023, 04:58:27 AM

Both scenario are possible because CP3 is somehow versatile and will be okay with what Kerr gives him but as a star player who is always on the starting line up, Chris Paul is not really fit to command the second unit nor come off from the bench as he will surely have some struggles adjusting into that position. I'd like to think that it's the first scenario where Kerr will try and experiment Curry and CP3 together to in the starting five. Klay can come off the bench if the other way around, as I said, I think it would be an experimental start for the team to test out which is good.

Considering that as they will form it from those practices that they will take and see if there's a good connection when it comes to set up the plays and anticipate the offense of their opponents,

They needed to predict if how they will react or if they will continue the principle of offense will
serves as their defense, meaning to say that they will keep countering the offensive side and
try to dominate to cover the possible lapses with their defense.
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I’m not the only one thinking it. Giannis would make such a deadly combination with Steph that I think they almost owe it to us to make it happen. If Klay decides to stick around in Golden State I don’t think his age will be a big issue. His game isn’t based on athleticism. His defense might struggle but that jump shot isn’t going anywhere.
What do you think about the Warriors signing Blake Griffin to a 1 year deal at the minimum to make a CP3 lob city reunion? I think it’s a great idea from a business perspective and I also think it’s a great use for your final roster spot. CP3 and Griffin definitely have a chemistry that makes them more dangerous when paired together.

https://clutchpoints.com/nba-rumors-warriors-eyeing-blake-griffin-chris-paul-reunion-to-complete-roster
It is interesting to see Warriors are mentioned like this. And these two posts were posted in very short time. I don't think Giannis trade would ever happen. In order to acquire him, Warriors have to cut so many players, then what kind of team players they can have left? I am also sick of these amazing franchise players keep playing in the same team. Call me old fashioned but I liked the old nba with these superstars carrying the team alone. On the other hand, CP3 at his current old age would be perfect for Warriors. I would like to see him there and he can win a championship in his last years. How many years he has left anyways? Is this year can be his last year?
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August 28, 2023, 02:48:56 AM
CP3 "was" a top 10 PG, he is no longer there at all and there are plenty of other better point guards right now, the problem is that Kerr may have some problems on the long run if he keeps thinking that he could keep CP3 benched for too long, he is going to be forced to play him and the situation could be decent if curry was a good defender but he is not, he is pure offense type of guy.

What I think he means to do is to get Draymond and CP3 different minutes as much as he can, or even same times for short period of times, and get klay and curry running around and CP3 to find them open, he will be the ball arrier and pass guy, and then find people with open shots. That "may" work, but it is going to be tough to handle.
Budgeting the minutes will be the first problem of Coach Steve Kerr. I really doubt CP3 would like to just sit there and heat the bench. Well, last season he did make Steph Curry rest a lot of minutes so I think that is where CP3 will get his own.

What's your take on what Noah Lyles said about the NBA?
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"You know what hurts me the most is that I have to watch the NBA Finals, and they have 'world champion' on their head. World champion of what? The United States?" Lyles questioned. "Don't get me wrong. I love the US at times. But that ain't the world.

"We [World Athletics Championships] are the world. We have almost every country out here fighting and thriving and putting on a flag to show that they are represented. There ain't no flags in the NBA."

IMO, this is what sometimes confuses me when a league in the USA announces a team as the world champion. He actually has a point but I think the delivery was just harsh.
Champions in one of the biggest leagues in the world. When you make it short, that's a world champion.
There are already a lot of NBA players who reacted to what he said. Most of them are also harsh returns. A good explanation will be a better answer than fighting fire with fire.
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August 27, 2023, 02:03:44 PM
CP3 "was" a top 10 PG, he is no longer there at all and there are plenty of other better point guards right now, the problem is that Kerr may have some problems on the long run if he keeps thinking that he could keep CP3 benched for too long, he is going to be forced to play him and the situation could be decent if curry was a good defender but he is not, he is pure offense type of guy.

What I think he means to do is to get Draymond and CP3 different minutes as much as he can, or even same times for short period of times, and get klay and curry running around and CP3 to find them open, he will be the ball arrier and pass guy, and then find people with open shots. That "may" work, but it is going to be tough to handle.

Against a team with deadly offensive guards, GSW will be forced to bench CP3. Actually, it is okay to bench him since he is already 38 and will be 40 by the end of his contract. The issue though is that CP3 will be paid $30 million per year which is too high for someone to play 20sh minutes per game, especially during the playoffs if they can qualify.

Anyway, it remains to be seen if this GSW experiment will work. I still value young Poole over CP3 but I understand that GSW needs to let go of him since they prefer Draymond.
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August 27, 2023, 01:26:40 PM
CP3 "was" a top 10 PG, he is no longer there at all and there are plenty of other better point guards right now, the problem is that Kerr may have some problems on the long run if he keeps thinking that he could keep CP3 benched for too long, he is going to be forced to play him and the situation could be decent if curry was a good defender but he is not, he is pure offense type of guy.

What I think he means to do is to get Draymond and CP3 different minutes as much as he can, or even same times for short period of times, and get klay and curry running around and CP3 to find them open, he will be the ball arrier and pass guy, and then find people with open shots. That "may" work, but it is going to be tough to handle.
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August 27, 2023, 12:15:51 PM
Maybe Coach Steve Kerr has a plan. CP3 is a top 10 PG in my book, and Curry can't handle point duties all the time due to potential fatigue. Given Curry's skill at off-ball movement, he becomes an excellent target for CP3, who can consistently find opportunities for him to shoot.

I'm unclear about him being relegated to the 2nd unit, as he's a bona fide star player; he might contribute more as a starter, considering his abilities.

Anyway, let's find out together once the season starts.

Paul is undoubtedly one of the best point guards in NBA history,  at least because he ranks third for assists. He is behind only Kidd and Stockton. So, I think it will be interesting to see how the Paul-Curry duo will perform in the upcoming season. Paul will most likely contribute to Curry, as well as Thompson, throwing more wide-open three-pointers.

Expecting him to use his passing IQ to help Both Klay and Steph in finding more open shots, the good thing is defense can't let him
open too since he can also create damages.

With him being added as threat to opposing team in terms of offense the only thing that may trigger is the defense, if both him and Curry inside
the court bigger players can use that as advantage to attack them offensively.



Steph is and always best at getting his own shot.  I see this as a big plus to klay who is an insane spot up shooter.  Going to be am interesting dynamic and wondering how Curr is going to employ this rotation.  When all 3 are on the court you know the defense is gonna hate trying to cover down everywhere.
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Maybe Coach Steve Kerr has a plan. CP3 is a top 10 PG in my book, and Curry can't handle point duties all the time due to potential fatigue. Given Curry's skill at off-ball movement, he becomes an excellent target for CP3, who can consistently find opportunities for him to shoot.

I'm unclear about him being relegated to the 2nd unit, as he's a bona fide star player; he might contribute more as a starter, considering his abilities.

Anyway, let's find out together once the season starts.

Paul is undoubtedly one of the best point guards in NBA history,  at least because he ranks third for assists. He is behind only Kidd and Stockton. So, I think it will be interesting to see how the Paul-Curry duo will perform in the upcoming season. Paul will most likely contribute to Curry, as well as Thompson, throwing more wide-open three-pointers.

Expecting him to use his passing IQ to help Both Klay and Steph in finding more open shots, the good thing is defense can't let him
open too since he can also create damages.

With him being added as threat to opposing team in terms of offense the only thing that may trigger is the defense, if both him and Curry inside
the court bigger players can use that as advantage to attack them offensively.



And that is exactly where Green and Wiggins come in, to adjust and to fill hole in their weakness that others might take advantage because they know that CP3 and Curry will be both busy doing their jobs in the attacks and leaving the team vulnerable on their defense. That's just their downfall though but on the bringt side, the Warriors are now stronger compared last season where they had a good run and yet made some expensive mistakes in the post season.
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August 27, 2023, 10:53:38 AM
Maybe Coach Steve Kerr has a plan. CP3 is a top 10 PG in my book, and Curry can't handle point duties all the time due to potential fatigue. Given Curry's skill at off-ball movement, he becomes an excellent target for CP3, who can consistently find opportunities for him to shoot.

I'm unclear about him being relegated to the 2nd unit, as he's a bona fide star player; he might contribute more as a starter, considering his abilities.

Anyway, let's find out together once the season starts.

Paul is undoubtedly one of the best point guards in NBA history,  at least because he ranks third for assists. He is behind only Kidd and Stockton. So, I think it will be interesting to see how the Paul-Curry duo will perform in the upcoming season. Paul will most likely contribute to Curry, as well as Thompson, throwing more wide-open three-pointers.

Expecting him to use his passing IQ to help Both Klay and Steph in finding more open shots, the good thing is defense can't let him
open too since he can also create damages.

With him being added as threat to opposing team in terms of offense the only thing that may trigger is the defense, if both him and Curry inside
the court bigger players can use that as advantage to attack them offensively.

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Secondly, CP3 is still not a smart choice if you ask me, you should not get him as a second unit leader, he was a great player all up until this season and suddenly this season he will be a bench player? You have Curry there, you can't make them both play together all that frequently, so what's going to happen? It is going to be a tough deal and lets see what happens but I think both CP3 and Blake Griffin situation is a weird one and should not be considered good additions.

I think he will be in the second unit for the Warriors, maybe coming off the bench to give relieved to Curry. Maybe they can play both at the same time. But for Griffin, it's not going to be good for him, it's a far stretch if he will be given like 10 minutes to play every game by Steve Kerr.

Maybe Coach Steve Kerr has a plan. CP3 is a top 10 PG in my book, and Curry can't handle point duties all the time due to potential fatigue. Given Curry's skill at off-ball movement, he becomes an excellent target for CP3, who can consistently find opportunities for him to shoot.

I'm unclear about him being relegated to the 2nd unit, as he's a bona fide star player; he might contribute more as a starter, considering his abilities.

Anyway, let's find out together once the season starts.

He can still play as starter depends on how coach Kerr will design the play. I think Klay can give that spot and bring both Curry and CP3 to the starting unit.

Or maybe they have a good plan of placing CP3 in the second squad to bring good command while
Curry is resting, we don't know what's the plan is but for sure they already building and developing
chemistries to make sure that they are well prepared when the upcoming season starts.

Both scenario are possible because CP3 is somehow versatile and will be okay with what Kerr gives him but as a star player who is always on the starting line up, Chris Paul is not really fit to command the second unit nor come off from the bench as he will surely have some struggles adjusting into that position. I'd like to think that it's the first scenario where Kerr will try and experiment Curry and CP3 together to in the starting five. Klay can come off the bench if the other way around, as I said, I think it would be an experimental start for the team to test out which is good.
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August 27, 2023, 06:59:54 AM
What do you think about the Warriors signing Blake Griffin to a 1 year deal at the minimum to make a CP3 lob city reunion? I think it’s a great idea from a business perspective and I also think it’s a great use for your final roster spot. CP3 and Griffin definitely have a chemistry that makes them more dangerous when paired together.

https://clutchpoints.com/nba-rumors-warriors-eyeing-blake-griffin-chris-paul-reunion-to-complete-roster
Veterans team. That's what happened to the Golden State Warriors. Cheesy
Well, Blake Griffin was not used much in Boston Celtics so I think Steve Kerr will have a plan for him. Make him a defensive player or just become their big man to stop big players. Offensively, I doubt he and CP3 can still do their highlights back in the Clippers.

But if you look at it, Warriors had like Draymond Green, Looney and their recent addition in Saric to play the big center position. Only Looney though plays that spot and so if they wanted to have another center, Blake might not be a good fit even if he will be sign for a one-year contract.

Warriors should get a real center, 7'0 just like what they had in the past in their championship team to make it a complete roster. If I'm not mistaken, there are still a lot of good centers around that they can choose from, not a wash up player like Blake Griffin (no offense to his fans).
The only problem is they are always playing fastball with Draymond Green leading the pack. It's hard to find a 7 feet player who will be able to follow that kind of tempo. They even traded Wiseman who is a young tall guy. They want speed and maybe some big body who can help on the defensive end.
IMO, Blake Griffin is not the best choice but I think he can fill some of those gaps and if the 2nd team has CP3, chemistry building would not be a difficult task for them.
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