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August 21, 2023, 12:21:02 PM
Enough about James Harden. I think I've found an interesting topic to discuss.
Take a look at these viral pictures. What can you say about his appearance? He has been criticized for being overweight, with some suggesting that his weight is the reason he is prone to injuries. However, when you look at this 'scary man' now...

That's what you call a cool look and he really is going to recover and make a good comeback this upcoming season because he was really amazing before he got injured last season. Probably he will be more careful this time and will be at least protecting his health and body throughout the season so that they can go back to play the NBA playoffs again. I wonder how they shut his critics when he went viral with his self-proclaimed former girlfriend? Will that affect him or his game will be changed forever because of it?
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August 21, 2023, 11:55:25 AM
Enough about James Harden. I think I've found an interesting topic to discuss.

Pelicans star Zion Williamson shows off new look in viral photos

Take a look at these viral pictures. What can you say about his appearance? He has been criticized for being overweight, with some suggesting that his weight is the reason he is prone to injuries. However, when you look at this 'scary man' now...



Long overdue. It is about time that he takes this seriously. He has been overweight since he joined NBA. It doesn't help that he got a foot injury in his last game in college. His weight is not helping him heal properly. That is why he is always injured. Now that he is trimmed, I think it will be good for him and his game. Hopefully, it will be enough for him to at least play 65 games this season. If that happens, he will be a great help to his team. We know how good he plays when he is healthy. This will keep him healthy, and we can witness his highlight plays again.

It's not just his weight but the way he plays with that type of body. He's still too bulky for someone who loves to fly in my opinion and those knees are not going to hold out for an entire season. I'm betting he could play 30 to 40 games in that condition before suffering another season ending injury. What I would like to see them flex is how he improved his game in the post.

It is a move in the right direction though. He is young and those will come. You are right, his game does not fit the body type that he has. He will need those post moves, but it is not easy to learn. He has been playing this way for the longest time. He is young and he will learn. His trainer should recognize that his game is not sustainable and should suggest this to him. But for now, I will enjoy his highlight and this change will give him a chance to show more of that.

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August 21, 2023, 11:15:09 AM
Enough about James Harden. I think I've found an interesting topic to discuss.

Pelicans star Zion Williamson shows off new look in viral photos

Take a look at these viral pictures. What can you say about his appearance? He has been criticized for being overweight, with some suggesting that his weight is the reason he is prone to injuries. However, when you look at this 'scary man' now...



Wow, with that weight and still have that speed on him that might be for real, a scary monster that can eat you alive when facing you in a one on one.

Hopefully, he will maintain that body plus the skills that we all know he got when he step inside the court,
he was being criticized for being an overweight, now we will see his determination and maybe he might
complete a season without another injury(crossing fingers.)

At least we've seen some good news from him. The last time I heard about him was when he impregnated a porn actress. Cheesy

Looking at the picture, he's got toned muscles already. That's an improvement already. Although his weight is still very important even if he transformed his fats into muscles because his legs cannot hold for long if he is very heavy. So we're also hoping that he lost significant weight before he starts playing this season. He is still very young and his talent is extraordinary so the fans are really excited to see him healthy for the whole season.
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August 21, 2023, 10:59:57 AM
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Pelicans star Zion Williamson shows off new look in viral photos

Take a look at these viral pictures. What can you say about his appearance? He has been criticized for being overweight, with some suggesting that his weight is the reason he is prone to injuries. However, when you look at this 'scary man' now...


It's not just his weight but the way he plays with that type of body. He's still too bulky for someone who loves to fly in my opinion and those knees are not going to hold out for an entire season. I'm betting he could play 30 to 40 games in that condition before suffering another season ending injury. What I would like to see them flex is how he improved his game in the post.

Yes, I agree. It's a bit too early to speculate that he can now finish a lot more games compared to his recent seasons in the NBA. Sure, the Pelicans need him 100 percent, but he cannot give that same 100 percent if he's not that serious in taking his own body to become fit in-order to dominate the center and protect their rim in a lot more games, especially in the playoffs because they have a good chance for that as long as the main roster is healthy including him. That picture is a plus but it is not yet a guarantee.
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August 21, 2023, 10:43:14 AM
Enough about James Harden. I think I've found an interesting topic to discuss.

Pelicans star Zion Williamson shows off new look in viral photos

Take a look at these viral pictures. What can you say about his appearance? He has been criticized for being overweight, with some suggesting that his weight is the reason he is prone to injuries. However, when you look at this 'scary man' now...



Wow, with that weight and still have that speed on him that might be for real, a scary monster that can eat you alive when facing you in a one on one.

Hopefully, he will maintain that body plus the skills that we all know he got when he step inside the court,
he was being criticized for being an overweight, now we will see his determination and maybe he might
complete a season without another injury(crossing fingers.)
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August 21, 2023, 08:00:22 AM
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Pelicans star Zion Williamson shows off new look in viral photos

Take a look at these viral pictures. What can you say about his appearance? He has been criticized for being overweight, with some suggesting that his weight is the reason he is prone to injuries. However, when you look at this 'scary man' now...


It's not just his weight but the way he plays with that type of body. He's still too bulky for someone who loves to fly in my opinion and those knees are not going to hold out for an entire season. I'm betting he could play 30 to 40 games in that condition before suffering another season ending injury. What I would like to see them flex is how he improved his game in the post.
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August 21, 2023, 07:43:40 AM
At this point there is no turning back for Harden situation, Sixers are known to be very good at trading and they have traded a finished and done Simmons for Harden and it turns out that is not going to end well for them but at the time it was a good decision.
Now what do they do? If they trade Harden, what can they even get for him? We all know that they can't get all that much for him, it is not going to be all that much possible for them to be getting great players, so do they just go get picks? If they go back to "the process" part it would be hard for fans to accept it, but to be fair they have two pieces that would be amazing for it, they could just send Harden away and get some good picks, and they could trade Embiid as well and get great picks too. Not only they do not have to get picks for those players neither, they could get players that can be turned into picks later on as well. So, it seems like they have a good base to go ahead and tank again if they want to.
If Harden could be easily traded, the 76ers management would have done it early in the offseason. So you're right that the 76ers are unlikely to get any acceptable offers from other teams because they probably want an equivalent trade, i.e. an all-star player. The problem is that there is hardly any team in the league that would be willing to trade its best player for Harden, who has been changing teams almost every year lately.
The same case with Dame Lillard, he wanted to be traded to Miami and up to know we don't know if Portland can do that or if they are really that willing to allow Dame to get out of the team.

And so it's not as easy as it sounds for star players like Harden and Lillard to be traded. It might take another team, a 3rd team to be involved here in my opinion. Unless the destination team is willing to give up a lot of their future draft picks and some current roster to be in that trade block just to get either of this two superstars. So it's a big sacrifice as well with them.

I think the teams which try to get these players have to figure out if it is a good idea to give up what they have to bring in these players. I actually do not think that this is a good trade-off. At least not if we think about the future. But one thing is true that if they do end up making the trade and bringing in a huge player like that, they are probably instantly going to get the results. That is probably not going to happen with the players that they have on the team. In future, they might be able to perform better. But that would have definitely taken time. So probably in that scenario, the sacrifice does make sense.

They will get instant result if the player they get is a team player and can easily adopt on management decision, but if the player is self centered one and has an issue of being a toxic player or a teammate no matter how good that player it cannot bring good result to the team. They might just waste their asset for releasing young players which have big potential. Sacrificing doesn't make any sense since just like what those other big stars done for sure they will leave their new teak if they don't like the result of their season performance.

That is given and a team that will acquire these kinds of players should be ready and expect that sometime in the future, they will leave them again and find a better team that they think is more suitable for them and can give their needs. It's not new anymore as the players in this era tend to be more selfish compared to the old good and gold era that players will try their very best to bring the team together and where asking for a trade isn't an option for them as that will just scathe their name.
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August 21, 2023, 07:06:31 AM
Enough about James Harden. I think I've found an interesting topic to discuss.

Pelicans star Zion Williamson shows off new look in viral photos

Take a look at these viral pictures. What can you say about his appearance? He has been criticized for being overweight, with some suggesting that his weight is the reason he is prone to injuries. However, when you look at this 'scary man' now...

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August 21, 2023, 04:58:16 AM
At this point there is no turning back for Harden situation, Sixers are known to be very good at trading and they have traded a finished and done Simmons for Harden and it turns out that is not going to end well for them but at the time it was a good decision.
Now what do they do? If they trade Harden, what can they even get for him? We all know that they can't get all that much for him, it is not going to be all that much possible for them to be getting great players, so do they just go get picks? If they go back to "the process" part it would be hard for fans to accept it, but to be fair they have two pieces that would be amazing for it, they could just send Harden away and get some good picks, and they could trade Embiid as well and get great picks too. Not only they do not have to get picks for those players neither, they could get players that can be turned into picks later on as well. So, it seems like they have a good base to go ahead and tank again if they want to.
If Harden could be easily traded, the 76ers management would have done it early in the offseason. So you're right that the 76ers are unlikely to get any acceptable offers from other teams because they probably want an equivalent trade, i.e. an all-star player. The problem is that there is hardly any team in the league that would be willing to trade its best player for Harden, who has been changing teams almost every year lately.
The same case with Dame Lillard, he wanted to be traded to Miami and up to know we don't know if Portland can do that or if they are really that willing to allow Dame to get out of the team.

And so it's not as easy as it sounds for star players like Harden and Lillard to be traded. It might take another team, a 3rd team to be involved here in my opinion. Unless the destination team is willing to give up a lot of their future draft picks and some current roster to be in that trade block just to get either of this two superstars. So it's a big sacrifice as well with them.

I think the teams which try to get these players have to figure out if it is a good idea to give up what they have to bring in these players. I actually do not think that this is a good trade-off. At least not if we think about the future. But one thing is true that if they do end up making the trade and bringing in a huge player like that, they are probably instantly going to get the results. That is probably not going to happen with the players that they have on the team. In future, they might be able to perform better. But that would have definitely taken time. So probably in that scenario, the sacrifice does make sense.

They will get instant result if the player they get is a team player and can easily adopt on management decision, but if the player is self centered one and has an issue of being a toxic player or a teammate no matter how good that player it cannot bring good result to the team. They might just waste their asset for releasing young players which have big potential. Sacrificing doesn't make any sense since just like what those other big stars done for sure they will leave their new teak if they don't like the result of their season performance.
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August 21, 2023, 03:33:37 AM

Looks like both are gonna be out in the next season for the 76ers and they should really find a deal before the season starts because they cannot afford to have these kinds of players who are not gonna be playing their 100% for the team anymore. I think Embiid will easily be out because of his skills and popularity but Harden seems hard to be out because he hasn't been giving his past team at least an appearance in the NBA finals yet. I wonder what's going on in that team and how would they recover if they did not have these star players in their team anymore.

The 76ers can not afford 2 unhappy superstars on their team which is why they need to make a decision to go on with the season with 2 unhappy players or trade James Harden and Joel Embiid to the other teams, for sure this is the only option they have right now because if not they will surely be down again and not be going into the playoffs for this season again, likely there is no available Superstar for them to pick so they will just choose on the available ones right now or if the other teams would give them a great option and they could manage a steal for Harden and Embiid,


I understand why Harden wants to be out of the 76ers really badly. Maybe there's something to do with that contract and the purpose of it, while Harden agreed on that for the sake of the team. If he has said such words against Daryl then that means that it's about the purpose of why he's got a cut of the contract and saying that he's liar, I guess that the terms weren't met and didn't happened at all. We're starting to see the light now as to why Harden wants to get out quickly.

I really think it goes beyond that, surely Harden had enough he sacrificed his last season's salary for the 76ers to not get the team with the players they need for sure James Harden would just want to go to the team that could likely have a huge chance in making it to the finals for sure you can call it the easy way around, but he is nearing to be out of his prime for sure and he is feeling this for sure, and he can not afford to be doing anything about it





Did you guys seen the NBA 2K24 game and the trailer you can surely see Jordan Poole against Draymond Green in the trailer and Poole Splashing some threes on Draymonds face, do you think he can emulate that in their game next season, and seeing Jordan's Poole practicing boxing he surely is readying to face Draymond Green once again or maybe inside the ring, do you guys think he is just releasing something inside so he can be ready into the game, here is the boxing video,

https://youtube.com/shorts/joMyWQ1Zt00?si=zwzEcGzkEXX4-Pkt
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August 21, 2023, 12:09:32 AM
There should be no problem if NBA gets harden out of his written contract with the Sixers if there was indeed a violation. If it was only a verbal agreement then I doubt Harden would just let that slide. I believe players are smart enough to talk with their agent and make those additional stipulations formal or legally binding.
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August 21, 2023, 12:06:59 AM
At this point there is no turning back for Harden situation, Sixers are known to be very good at trading and they have traded a finished and done Simmons for Harden and it turns out that is not going to end well for them but at the time it was a good decision.
Now what do they do? If they trade Harden, what can they even get for him? We all know that they can't get all that much for him, it is not going to be all that much possible for them to be getting great players, so do they just go get picks? If they go back to "the process" part it would be hard for fans to accept it, but to be fair they have two pieces that would be amazing for it, they could just send Harden away and get some good picks, and they could trade Embiid as well and get great picks too. Not only they do not have to get picks for those players neither, they could get players that can be turned into picks later on as well. So, it seems like they have a good base to go ahead and tank again if they want to.
If Harden could be easily traded, the 76ers management would have done it early in the offseason. So you're right that the 76ers are unlikely to get any acceptable offers from other teams because they probably want an equivalent trade, i.e. an all-star player. The problem is that there is hardly any team in the league that would be willing to trade its best player for Harden, who has been changing teams almost every year lately.
The same case with Dame Lillard, he wanted to be traded to Miami and up to know we don't know if Portland can do that or if they are really that willing to allow Dame to get out of the team.

And so it's not as easy as it sounds for star players like Harden and Lillard to be traded. It might take another team, a 3rd team to be involved here in my opinion. Unless the destination team is willing to give up a lot of their future draft picks and some current roster to be in that trade block just to get either of this two superstars. So it's a big sacrifice as well with them.

I think the teams which try to get these players have to figure out if it is a good idea to give up what they have to bring in these players. I actually do not think that this is a good trade-off. At least not if we think about the future. But one thing is true that if they do end up making the trade and bringing in a huge player like that, they are probably instantly going to get the results. That is probably not going to happen with the players that they have on the team. In future, they might be able to perform better. But that would have definitely taken time. So probably in that scenario, the sacrifice does make sense.
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August 20, 2023, 11:01:04 PM
At this point there is no turning back for Harden situation, Sixers are known to be very good at trading and they have traded a finished and done Simmons for Harden and it turns out that is not going to end well for them but at the time it was a good decision.

Now what do they do? If they trade Harden, what can they even get for him? We all know that they can't get all that much for him, it is not going to be all that much possible for them to be getting great players, so do they just go get picks? If they go back to "the process" part it would be hard for fans to accept it, but to be fair they have two pieces that would be amazing for it, they could just send Harden away and get some good picks, and they could trade Embiid as well and get great picks too. Not only they do not have to get picks for those players neither, they could get players that can be turned into picks later on as well. So, it seems like they have a good base to go ahead and tank again if they want to.

If Harden could be easily traded, the 76ers management would have done it early in the offseason. So you're right that the 76ers are unlikely to get any acceptable offers from other teams because they probably want an equivalent trade, i.e. an all-star player. The problem is that there is hardly any team in the league that would be willing to trade its best player for Harden, who has been changing teams almost every year lately.

The same case with Dame Lillard, he wanted to be traded to Miami and up to know we don't know if Portland can do that or if they are really that willing to allow Dame to get out of the team.

And so it's not as easy as it sounds for star players like Harden and Lillard to be traded. It might take another team, a 3rd team to be involved here in my opinion. Unless the destination team is willing to give up a lot of their future draft picks and some current roster to be in that trade block just to get either of this two superstars. So it's a big sacrifice as well with them.
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August 20, 2023, 09:13:38 PM
Does he really understand that? He's sad leaving the Warriors and we can see that he's not happy with it.

We seem to have differing interpretations. I believe he's content with the trade, especially considering his inconsistency following the altercation with Draymond Green. His actions possibly indicated a lack of interest in continuing with the team, which might have influenced the management's decision to trade him.

Staying with the Warriors could have subjected him to ongoing criticism. Therefore, being traded to a new environment could be beneficial, allowing him to display his talents and hopefully forge strong bonds with his new team without facing any confrontations so he will not be punch in the face again. Smiley
This is about Jordan Poole, right?
@Distinctin That's right. Actually, the Poole haters are growing after he had a bad inconsistent season last year. The problem is, this ain't new. And I guess the expectation for him had grown after the championship. We saw him breaking his career records one after another and then he had his hot moments that dominates the whole game. After that, there's really nothing explosive anymore.
So even if it's sad to leave the Warriors, that will be the best path or will turn out to be a nemesis of the Warriors fans. This is for the best and who knows if he could grow his career on other teams. Maybe, that will make him more confident and be a pure point guard for another team and not just a shadow of Steph.

And after that incident with Draymond Green pre-season, I speculated that the fans are divided then, between choosing Green or choosing Jordan Poole. And it was obvious that when the game of Poole goes down, specially the turn overs and the attitude in the playoff wherein he said that he was not given time to play, then the his trade might come to play that early.

I guess it will still be the splash brothers in the end, I mean Poole could be a good addition to them, but having 3 players who play almost the same position are not going to work overtime, in my opinion.
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August 20, 2023, 08:05:03 PM
Does he really understand that? He's sad leaving the Warriors and we can see that he's not happy with it.

We seem to have differing interpretations. I believe he's content with the trade, especially considering his inconsistency following the altercation with Draymond Green. His actions possibly indicated a lack of interest in continuing with the team, which might have influenced the management's decision to trade him.

Staying with the Warriors could have subjected him to ongoing criticism. Therefore, being traded to a new environment could be beneficial, allowing him to display his talents and hopefully forge strong bonds with his new team without facing any confrontations so he will not be punch in the face again. Smiley
This is about Jordan Poole, right?
@Distinctin That's right. Actually, the Poole haters are growing after he had a bad inconsistent season last year. The problem is, this ain't new. And I guess the expectation for him had grown after the championship. We saw him breaking his career records one after another and then he had his hot moments that dominates the whole game. After that, there's really nothing explosive anymore.
So even if it's sad to leave the Warriors, that will be the best path or will turn out to be a nemesis of the Warriors fans. This is for the best and who knows if he could grow his career on other teams. Maybe, that will make him more confident and be a pure point guard for another team and not just a shadow of Steph.
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August 20, 2023, 06:21:55 PM
At this point there is no turning back for Harden situation, Sixers are known to be very good at trading and they have traded a finished and done Simmons for Harden and it turns out that is not going to end well for them but at the time it was a good decision.

Now what do they do? If they trade Harden, what can they even get for him? We all know that they can't get all that much for him, it is not going to be all that much possible for them to be getting great players, so do they just go get picks? If they go back to "the process" part it would be hard for fans to accept it, but to be fair they have two pieces that would be amazing for it, they could just send Harden away and get some good picks, and they could trade Embiid as well and get great picks too. Not only they do not have to get picks for those players neither, they could get players that can be turned into picks later on as well. So, it seems like they have a good base to go ahead and tank again if they want to.

If Harden could be easily traded, the 76ers management would have done it early in the offseason. So you're right that the 76ers are unlikely to get any acceptable offers from other teams because they probably want an equivalent trade, i.e. an all-star player. The problem is that there is hardly any team in the league that would be willing to trade its best player for Harden, who has been changing teams almost every year lately.
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Adrian Wojnarowski is reporting this morning that the NBA is launching an investigation into the circumstances surrounding James Harden’s claim that Daryl Morey is a liar and got him to sign a contract under false pretenses. The drama takes another step forward. I’m not sure what the NBA can do though. Maybe nullify the contract?

I don't think that the NBA can simply nullify the contract, it might take a long investigation though, as they needed to get all the facts straight before making this hard decision, but nullifying it might have a ripple effect on some contracts on the NBA specially those who are signing or teams that are giving big money to NBA players right now.

For now, it seems that the case is his words against the owners word. So let's see how the NBA is going to settle this issues. Regardless if James is not happy Sixers should allow him to get out of contract and that could be the best settlement for him.
The best sanction that they can give to Harden is suspension for X number of games, or maybe a 1 year suspension, but it seems impossible.

His statement is very strong, and he repeated it while he was in China. That shows that he, and Morey really made a promise, but the other didn't give the max contract. Correct me, but is there any player in the league that got his contract nullified because of some reasons? Overall, Harden's statements, and his attitude towards the team will have an effect on him especially with his value. On the other hand, the Sixers really have a bad management for the last couple of years, and I will not be surprised if Embiid will request trade maybe next season because in an interview, it seems like he values having a title more than being loyal with a team especially if that team has a bad management.
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It was a tough choice to make because they know that Steve Kerr can still make some things possible and rectify their mistakes last season because that's what a team should do, Steve Kerr managed to train Poole properly and he can still do that again but the real thing is, behind all this, NBA is still a business and in the end of the day, the Warriors will choose who will stay and who will go.

Well, Jordan Poole should now just do what the best he can to preserve his worth because he doesn't have his former coach's back anymore and from now on it's a man for himself and he should care to bring their team to a championship right now in order to take revenge but that's not gonna happen if he doesn't learn from this and not try to improve his skills. That's not an easy thing to do of course, but to turn those anger into aspirations is the best thing he could do in order to show them who's lost was it.

It will be better if he will take it that way, bringing that fire inside him, proving that he's worth or impact will be enjoyed by his
new team, something that will let the Warriors management to regret what they did to him.

Too early though as we don't know what will happen to him in wearing new jersey and playing with his new teammates, all will be concluded
when the season starts and how him and his team will perform.
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August 20, 2023, 03:25:10 PM
At this point there is no turning back for Harden situation, Sixers are known to be very good at trading and they have traded a finished and done Simmons for Harden and it turns out that is not going to end well for them but at the time it was a good decision.

Now what do they do? If they trade Harden, what can they even get for him? We all know that they can't get all that much for him, it is not going to be all that much possible for them to be getting great players, so do they just go get picks? If they go back to "the process" part it would be hard for fans to accept it, but to be fair they have two pieces that would be amazing for it, they could just send Harden away and get some good picks, and they could trade Embiid as well and get great picks too. Not only they do not have to get picks for those players neither, they could get players that can be turned into picks later on as well. So, it seems like they have a good base to go ahead and tank again if they want to.
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August 20, 2023, 02:41:34 PM

It was a tough choice to make because they know that Steve Kerr can still make some things possible and rectify their mistakes last season because that's what a team should do, Steve Kerr managed to train Poole properly and he can still do that again but the real thing is, behind all this, NBA is still a business and in the end of the day, the Warriors will choose who will stay and who will go.

Well, Jordan Poole should now just do what the best he can to preserve his worth because he doesn't have his former coach's back anymore and from now on it's a man for himself and he should care to bring their team to a championship right now in order to take revenge but that's not gonna happen if he doesn't learn from this and not try to improve his skills. That's not an easy thing to do of course, but to turn those anger into aspirations is the best thing he could do in order to show them who's lost was it.
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