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August 19, 2023, 10:44:17 AM
Richard Jefferson.
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On ESPN's NBA Today, Jefferson referenced the fact that Embiid has not suited up for a game in Denver since 2019. He then proclaimed, “From this point on, I will be saying that you are ducking Jokic until you guys play.”
https://clutchpoints.com/sixers-news-richard-jefferson-hits-joel-embiid-with-nikola-jokic-provocation-amid-ducking-controversy
Well, I'd like to see that happen. Maybe Embiid has his own reasons for not playing against Jokic.
But fans would love to see it. Two MVP caliber battling beneath the rim while being analyzed who is really better at that area. IMO, it's Jokic but Embiid has that perimeter shot that is difficult to stop. So, I think it will be an entertaining performance but if Embiid won't be available again, that's going to be a blast for all the basketball media analysts. They will start creating more rumors that it's truly "ducking".

What kind of reasons could Embiid have for not playing against Jokic? If you look at his stats over the last 5 years, you'll note that Embiid plays an average of 60 games per regular season. In other words, he misses an average of 22 games, and it's highly suspicious that he misses exactly when the 76ers should be playing against the Nuggets. So I think the speculation that Embiid is ducking Jokic is reasonable.
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August 19, 2023, 08:47:00 AM
Alright, schedules are up for the upcoming new season. Still very early but it's quite exciting since we've been waiting for months before we see our favorite teams and players once again.

There will be two big games on the first day. The first game will be the Lost Angeles Lakers visiting the defending champions Denver Nuggets. Jokic should be fully energized after having a lot of fun in his native Serbia. The second game will be the 4-star team Phoenix Suns visiting its old teammate Chris Paul and the Golden State Warriors.
Great opening schedule! I'm confident it will be a sold-out crowd, as it's an incredibly exciting game to watch. We'll witness what the Lakers have done to improve, and they'll face a stern test against a team that swept them in the WCF. I anticipate the odds will be in favor of the Lakers, so I might be tempted to support their attempt to avenge their embarrassing loss.

As for the Warriors, I expect them to perform better. Despite CP3 not being in his prime, he's still skilled enough to create space on the floor. Hopefully, he's highly motivated to play with his new team and elevate the performance of Curry and Thompson.

Pretty sure the first 2 games on the opening day will be sold-out. I will bet on Denver ML if it has a minimum of 1.50 odds. I believe they're pretty pumped to defend their title and they are also playing at home. The Lakers will let Bron and AD play but once the lead becomes wide I expect the team to not let their aging and sensitive stars play like there is no tomorrow especially since this is just a regular game.

Maybe the Warriors are still a dark horse team but personally, I am not seeing them as a potential championship team. It will be a shame though if the big 4 of Phoenix goes home empty-handed.

People are excited about the coming season but I would love to see Lillard and Harden get traded before the start of the season.

I'd love to see that but include Harden too.

Because it is more interesting if all teams have no issues within themselves prior to the start of the season. I'm still hoping Miami Heat gets Lillard too. Grin
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August 19, 2023, 08:17:41 AM
Does he really understand that? He's sad leaving the Warriors and we can see that he's not happy with it.

We seem to have differing interpretations. I believe he's content with the trade, especially considering his inconsistency following the altercation with Draymond Green. His actions possibly indicated a lack of interest in continuing with the team, which might have influenced the management's decision to trade him.

Staying with the Warriors could have subjected him to ongoing criticism. Therefore, being traded to a new environment could be beneficial, allowing him to display his talents and hopefully forge strong bonds with his new team without facing any confrontations so he will not be punch in the face again. Smiley
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August 19, 2023, 08:10:52 AM
Alright, schedules are up for the upcoming new season. Still very early but it's quite exciting since we've been waiting for months before we see our favorite teams and players once again.

There will be two big games on the first day. The first game will be the Lost Angeles Lakers visiting the defending champions Denver Nuggets. Jokic should be fully energized after having a lot of fun in his native Serbia. The second game will be the 4-star team Phoenix Suns visiting its old teammate Chris Paul and the Golden State Warriors.

People are excited about the coming season but I would love to see Lillard and Harden get traded before the start of the season.

Yeah, usually in the first game of the a new season, we will see the defending champion fight it out. But it's weird that it will be against the Los Angeles Lakers. Perhaps the NBA wanted viewership, and so they have to insert Lebron against the defending champs.

I might be also interested to see Jordan Poole going back to GSW for a game. Crazy what will be the atmosphere, will we gonna hear boos from the Warriors fans or will they appreciate what Jordan did to them and win a ring.

Poole went out without any issues with the Warriors, and for sure he understands that it's all about business in the NBA right now. He might have a issues with Green earlier and it could have cost them their seasons, but still he is a good Warrior in his short stint with them, he doesn't deserved if fans are going to boo him in Chase Center.

Does he really understand that? He's sad leaving the Warriors and we can see that he's not happy with it. Maybe he take that and slowly accept the situation since he can't do anything since the deal is done. Their beef with Green is great factor with this decision so I guess maybe we can see a great revenge for him if he face his old team mates since maybe he will perform very well just to prove that he just waste a talent like him.
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August 19, 2023, 07:55:53 AM
Alright, schedules are up for the upcoming new season. Still very early but it's quite exciting since we've been waiting for months before we see our favorite teams and players once again.

There will be two big games on the first day. The first game will be the Lost Angeles Lakers visiting the defending champions Denver Nuggets. Jokic should be fully energized after having a lot of fun in his native Serbia. The second game will be the 4-star team Phoenix Suns visiting its old teammate Chris Paul and the Golden State Warriors.

People are excited about the coming season but I would love to see Lillard and Harden get traded before the start of the season.

Yeah, usually in the first game of the a new season, we will see the defending champion fight it out. But it's weird that it will be against the Los Angeles Lakers. Perhaps the NBA wanted viewership, and so they have to insert Lebron against the defending champs.

I might be also interested to see Jordan Poole going back to GSW for a game. Crazy what will be the atmosphere, will we gonna hear boos from the Warriors fans or will they appreciate what Jordan did to them and win a ring.

Poole went out without any issues with the Warriors, and for sure he understands that it's all about business in the NBA right now. He might have a issues with Green earlier and it could have cost them their seasons, but still he is a good Warrior in his short stint with them, he doesn't deserved if fans are going to boo him in Chase Center.

And it's obvious that Nuggets and reigning MVP vs the Lakers and Lebron is for the viewership in the first day of the game.

Even in Christmas day, usually teams that are hot will be favored to play in that day.
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August 19, 2023, 07:29:20 AM
I don't what to speculate but it should be around the money I guess. Maybe he was promised to have a good money this season. But the owner turn his back on Harden.
Words are very powerful, and they should be honored. If James Harden is promised good money without conditions, then he is due for that. However, sometimes these businessmen are very clever; they tend to use their power to influence a player's decision but ultimately may not stand by their words. Nowadays, the system has already changed, as players can make demands. In the case of James Harden, being a superstar, I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing. He understands that he won't lose his job, even if the 76ers decide to trade him, which they have refused to do until now.

Might be but as we all know, owners will have to make promises, and players should take that as a grain of salt. I remember the Jordan Poole trade, Poole said that he was assured that he will not be traded by Dunleavy Jr. But in the next 12 hours, he was traded to the Wizards.

So that is a lesson that there is no absolute word in the NBA, it's business, the owner or the president of basketball for operations of a team will have to make the hard decision. And with that, Harden might be hurt by the promises and so he wanted to leave.

Players end up thinking they run too much in the NBA.  They've been given too much control of the process.  Theor job is to play basketball, it's the business side of the team to position the players how they see fit.  When players sign a contract for millions of dollars the owner can do whatever he wants with that player from there.  Ypu always here players surprised and say that it's a business in the end.  For these teams yeah it is lol. 

This is definitely a problem that’s getting worse. The players sort of have the owners over a barrel because owners don’t want to seem like they don’t have their players’ backs. Otherwise they won’t be able to get any free agents to go there. What’s happening now in Philly is probably going to keep players from signing there in the future.

NBA players just found a loophole to put the franchise in a short lease instead of the opposite where the players should be the ones chasing the teams in-order to play because they need them and that's their only chance to get paid with millions worth of contact, they'll be lucky if they will find any team. That how should it work but now in this day and age, it's very different because the players already have the power over them and not the other way around.
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August 19, 2023, 07:09:31 AM
Alright, schedules are up for the upcoming new season. Still very early but it's quite exciting since we've been waiting for months before we see our favorite teams and players once again.

There will be two big games on the first day. The first game will be the Lost Angeles Lakers visiting the defending champions Denver Nuggets. Jokic should be fully energized after having a lot of fun in his native Serbia. The second game will be the 4-star team Phoenix Suns visiting its old teammate Chris Paul and the Golden State Warriors.

People are excited about the coming season but I would love to see Lillard and Harden get traded before the start of the season.

Yeah, usually in the first game of the a new season, we will see the defending champion fight it out. But it's weird that it will be against the Los Angeles Lakers. Perhaps the NBA wanted viewership, and so they have to insert Lebron against the defending champs.
Everyday man, that's what the NBA aims for - to attract more viewers and generate higher revenue. Despite being the most renowned basketball league worldwide, the NBA consistently seeks innovation. This is evident in the changes they are implementing in the upcoming season, which some find intriguing. However, we'll have to wait and see how these changes play out.


I might be also interested to see Jordan Poole going back to GSW for a game. Crazy what will be the atmosphere, will we gonna hear boos from the Warriors fans or will they appreciate what Jordan did to them and win a ring.

I hope the fans won't boo him. Jordan Poole didn't request the trade; it was the management's decision to trade him. Throughout his time with the Warriors, he never spoke negatively about the organization, even though he had a challenging postseason in the recent playoffs.
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August 19, 2023, 06:43:25 AM
Alright, schedules are up for the upcoming new season. Still very early but it's quite exciting since we've been waiting for months before we see our favorite teams and players once again.

There will be two big games on the first day. The first game will be the Lost Angeles Lakers visiting the defending champions Denver Nuggets. Jokic should be fully energized after having a lot of fun in his native Serbia. The second game will be the 4-star team Phoenix Suns visiting its old teammate Chris Paul and the Golden State Warriors.

People are excited about the coming season but I would love to see Lillard and Harden get traded before the start of the season.

Yeah, usually in the first game of the a new season, we will see the defending champion fight it out. But it's weird that it will be against the Los Angeles Lakers. Perhaps the NBA wanted viewership, and so they have to insert Lebron against the defending champs.

I might be also interested to see Jordan Poole going back to GSW for a game. Crazy what will be the atmosphere, will we gonna hear boos from the Warriors fans or will they appreciate what Jordan did to them and win a ring.
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August 19, 2023, 06:37:39 AM
Alright, schedules are up for the upcoming new season. Still very early but it's quite exciting since we've been waiting for months before we see our favorite teams and players once again.

There will be two big games on the first day. The first game will be the Lost Angeles Lakers visiting the defending champions Denver Nuggets. Jokic should be fully energized after having a lot of fun in his native Serbia. The second game will be the 4-star team Phoenix Suns visiting its old teammate Chris Paul and the Golden State Warriors.
Great opening schedule! I'm confident it will be a sold-out crowd, as it's an incredibly exciting game to watch. We'll witness what the Lakers have done to improve, and they'll face a stern test against a team that swept them in the WCF. I anticipate the odds will be in favor of the Lakers, so I might be tempted to support their attempt to avenge their embarrassing loss.

As for the Warriors, I expect them to perform better. Despite CP3 not being in his prime, he's still skilled enough to create space on the floor. Hopefully, he's highly motivated to play with his new team and elevate the performance of Curry and Thompson.

People are excited about the coming season but I would love to see Lillard and Harden get traded before the start of the season.

I'd love to see that but include Harden too.
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August 19, 2023, 06:10:35 AM
Alright, schedules are up for the upcoming new season. Still very early but it's quite exciting since we've been waiting for months before we see our favorite teams and players once again.

There will be two big games on the first day. The first game will be the Lost Angeles Lakers visiting the defending champions Denver Nuggets. Jokic should be fully energized after having a lot of fun in his native Serbia. The second game will be the 4-star team Phoenix Suns visiting its old teammate Chris Paul and the Golden State Warriors.

People are excited about the coming season but I would love to see Lillard and Harden get traded before the start of the season.
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August 19, 2023, 05:31:22 AM
I don't what to speculate but it should be around the money I guess. Maybe he was promised to have a good money this season. But the owner turn his back on Harden.
Words are very powerful, and they should be honored. If James Harden is promised good money without conditions, then he is due for that. However, sometimes these businessmen are very clever; they tend to use their power to influence a player's decision but ultimately may not stand by their words. Nowadays, the system has already changed, as players can make demands. In the case of James Harden, being a superstar, I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing. He understands that he won't lose his job, even if the 76ers decide to trade him, which they have refused to do until now.
I don't think it's money. Remember that James Harden sacrificed his own salary just for the Houston Rockets to acquire more good role players so they can finally win a championship if the management did good at picking who will it be so money may not be an issue for Harden. It could be something else but we have no source to reach that kind of information.

Richard Jefferson.
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On ESPN's NBA Today, Jefferson referenced the fact that Embiid has not suited up for a game in Denver since 2019. He then proclaimed, “From this point on, I will be saying that you are ducking Jokic until you guys play.”
https://clutchpoints.com/sixers-news-richard-jefferson-hits-joel-embiid-with-nikola-jokic-provocation-amid-ducking-controversy
Well, I'd like to see that happen. Maybe Embiid has his own reasons for not playing against Jokic.
But fans would love to see it. Two MVP caliber battling beneath the rim while being analyzed who is really better at that area. IMO, it's Jokic but Embiid has that perimeter shot that is difficult to stop. So, I think it will be an entertaining performance but if Embiid won't be available again, that's going to be a blast for all the basketball media analysts. They will start creating more rumors that it's truly "ducking".

Well if we can't pinpoint the exact reason why suddenly he want to go out of Sixers, then there is nothing we can do but to say it's all about money? I mean yeah he could sacrifice some when he move to Sixers, pay cut just to get out of another toxic situation in Brooklyn.

And perhaps he was promise good money if he can produce numbers, and so Harden did that in the playoffs as well. He even have clutch moments against the Celtics in their gruelling series. And so he is expecting something in return that didn't happen.
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August 19, 2023, 03:46:23 AM
I agree, Sixers are not "that" far away from being a championship contender, they just needed to focus on making the team better and they could keep Harden that way. The problem is that Sixers told Harden to get a pay cut so they could get better players to surround him and Embiid in order to win a title, he agreed and then they got nobody. This is why there is a trouble and with Harden gone then why would Embiid stay. I am guessing that Harden will want out because he has been lied to, but if Sixers could manage to get some great players, then Harden could be turned to be happy, might be too late though. This is not a good idea for either side, nobody will get anything out of this.

Who did they think they were going to be able to get? It seems like suddenly the mood in Philly changed with Harden and Embiid wanting out, but they never really said who they were wanting to pick up. I’m not even sure what player would fit with them or who was available that they were wanting. Maybe a trade for Bradley Beal or Chris Paul? Any ideas?

We never know because right now, things are still messy that we cannot even understand what is truly happening inside the Philly because I think Harden's trade request is just the tip of the iceberg as there is a big possibility that Joel Embiid might want to get out too because he surely doesn't want to waste his season on a team that don't know what to do mainly now that the Philly's hands are tied and they certainly did not expected this to happen, at all, not this early.
And if we look at Harden's career though, he has history of asking for trade, so I wouldn't be surprised if he is actually asking it or the news is real. And maybe Philly is caught off guard with this request and not it's become messy as the name of Joel also resurfaces. So it could be true or not, we will never know until it's became officially or someone drops the news to us, someone close to Philly or even some players.

If trade talks will happen, from the articles that I've read maybe the Sixers will be the 3rd team to participate in the negotiations between the Portland and Heat because this trade as well is not even moving. But as I said, we never know what will happen next, let's just expect the unexpected.
Thanks for this news, I haven't read it. All we know is that Dame wanted out, that's the real deal and he wanted to go to Miami. But to be able to facilitate it, yeah, maybe they need another team like Philly to get involved in this blockbuster trade.

Well, about that, it seems that James Harden was indeed saying what really happened inside the Philly because now an investigation talks are floating all around the place and the NBA itself might going to launch an investigation towards the Philly and could seek a hefty fine because of what happened. We'll see more of this in the following days because this is getting serious and Embiid might want an exit because of this issue.
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August 19, 2023, 01:15:39 AM
I don't what to speculate but it should be around the money I guess. Maybe he was promised to have a good money this season. But the owner turn his back on Harden.
Words are very powerful, and they should be honored. If James Harden is promised good money without conditions, then he is due for that. However, sometimes these businessmen are very clever; they tend to use their power to influence a player's decision but ultimately may not stand by their words. Nowadays, the system has already changed, as players can make demands. In the case of James Harden, being a superstar, I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing. He understands that he won't lose his job, even if the 76ers decide to trade him, which they have refused to do until now.
I don't think it's money. Remember that James Harden sacrificed his own salary just for the Houston Rockets to acquire more good role players so they can finally win a championship if the management did good at picking who will it be so money may not be an issue for Harden. It could be something else but we have no source to reach that kind of information.

Richard Jefferson.
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On ESPN's NBA Today, Jefferson referenced the fact that Embiid has not suited up for a game in Denver since 2019. He then proclaimed, “From this point on, I will be saying that you are ducking Jokic until you guys play.”
https://clutchpoints.com/sixers-news-richard-jefferson-hits-joel-embiid-with-nikola-jokic-provocation-amid-ducking-controversy
Well, I'd like to see that happen. Maybe Embiid has his own reasons for not playing against Jokic.
But fans would love to see it. Two MVP caliber battling beneath the rim while being analyzed who is really better at that area. IMO, it's Jokic but Embiid has that perimeter shot that is difficult to stop. So, I think it will be an entertaining performance but if Embiid won't be available again, that's going to be a blast for all the basketball media analysts. They will start creating more rumors that it's truly "ducking".
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August 19, 2023, 01:08:31 AM
I don't what to speculate but it should be around the money I guess. Maybe he was promised to have a good money this season. But the owner turn his back on Harden.
Words are very powerful, and they should be honored. If James Harden is promised good money without conditions, then he is due for that. However, sometimes these businessmen are very clever; they tend to use their power to influence a player's decision but ultimately may not stand by their words. Nowadays, the system has already changed, as players can make demands. In the case of James Harden, being a superstar, I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing. He understands that he won't lose his job, even if the 76ers decide to trade him, which they have refused to do until now.

Might be but as we all know, owners will have to make promises, and players should take that as a grain of salt. I remember the Jordan Poole trade, Poole said that he was assured that he will not be traded by Dunleavy Jr. But in the next 12 hours, he was traded to the Wizards.

So that is a lesson that there is no absolute word in the NBA, it's business, the owner or the president of basketball for operations of a team will have to make the hard decision. And with that, Harden might be hurt by the promises and so he wanted to leave.

Players end up thinking they run too much in the NBA.  They've been given too much control of the process.  Theor job is to play basketball, it's the business side of the team to position the players how they see fit.  When players sign a contract for millions of dollars the owner can do whatever he wants with that player from there.  Ypu always here players surprised and say that it's a business in the end.  For these teams yeah it is lol. 
It has evolved though, maybe that is the 90's mentality or even the early 2000's wherein franchise players remain with the team, i.e. Dirk or Kobe Bryant. But later, the management themselves give so much power to the player that now they can't they it back. Players like Kyrie or Harden demand so much for a team that they threaten not to play if they don't get what they deservers. Yes, it's business for them, but at least they could have balance everything before it goes out of control now.
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August 19, 2023, 12:50:28 AM
So much for the Process then, Lol. Sixers has given him the support, but I guess when he won the MVP already, it made him think to chase the ring and not any individual accolade. And it's hard to see Joel leaving the Sixers, but I guess if he wanted to get out then there's nothing that the management can do.

Just weird though that the destination they want is Houston? Although Harden has a good years run in Houston, but it doesn't make sense for Embid to follow his team mates there though. Does Joel has a connection with the city of Houston?

There are contrary rumors that Embiid is quite happy to be in the 76ers. By the way, I also don't understand why this is about the Rockets. Embiid's value as a player is very high right now because he's a current MVP. So it seems to me that the Rockets have nothing to hope for because they actually have nothing to offer the 76ers for him. Furthermore, Embiid will obviously not be interested in such a trade because the Rockets are still an underdog team.

Most likely it was just a rumor though, Harden wanted out and maybe he or someone just pulling then name of Joel Embiid here to as if shows that he also wanted to get traded after getting the MVP award last season.

Well if Harden is not happy and doesn't want to get a pay cut then so be it. Sixers should trade him after a season. But as far as Joel Embiid goes, I think he has some loyalty to the Sixers team and wouldn't just leave like that.

That rumor actually has a probability that was based on something, like social media activities or scouting rumors. Joel has recently removed his Philadelphia location on Twitter. So, for a lot of NBA fans, that could mean something and the most probable reason for it, is that he wants out or he wants to get traded. That have actually sparked a trade ideas with different teams who is very interested in Joel. We all know the Sixers won't gonna give up Joel that easy as they have built their roster around him and that gives Joel the right to demand something, so it's only a matter of time when the Sixers cannot appease him anymore.
Let's see what's gonna happen here.
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August 18, 2023, 11:44:10 PM
I don't what to speculate but it should be around the money I guess. Maybe he was promised to have a good money this season. But the owner turn his back on Harden.
Words are very powerful, and they should be honored. If James Harden is promised good money without conditions, then he is due for that. However, sometimes these businessmen are very clever; they tend to use their power to influence a player's decision but ultimately may not stand by their words. Nowadays, the system has already changed, as players can make demands. In the case of James Harden, being a superstar, I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing. He understands that he won't lose his job, even if the 76ers decide to trade him, which they have refused to do until now.
NBA = business. That's what these businessmen see the league right  now. On the other hand, there are these players who are acting like they're the boss of their own team, and demands a trade if they wanted to, or speak if they wanted to.

With regards to Harden, I guess the Sixers don't want to trade him anymore, or at least at the start of the season depending on how he will act at the start of the season until the mid-season. Harden already said that he will not play with the Sixers, and the team don't want to believe in him since he's on his last contract already. If Harden will not play, there's a high chance that his value will go down, and other teams will give him lower contract. I know that Harden is a superstar, but he's a player with lots of drama on his back, and his demand isn't as high as that of Durant, or even Irving or whatever superstar it is.

If there's any team that will be interested in him, it would be teams that's desperate of winning a title that what they only needs is a Point Guard who can run the team. Teams like the Lakers, and the Clippers are the 2 teams that I think he will be fit in, but between the 2, I would pick the Lakers. I mean AD, Lebron, and Harden with the same team is just a good team. The Lakers don't have a PG right now since they've traded Schroeder already. I guess if the Sixers will trade him mid-season, I just hope that he will go to the Lakers.
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August 18, 2023, 08:21:47 PM
I don't what to speculate but it should be around the money I guess. Maybe he was promised to have a good money this season. But the owner turn his back on Harden.
Words are very powerful, and they should be honored. If James Harden is promised good money without conditions, then he is due for that. However, sometimes these businessmen are very clever; they tend to use their power to influence a player's decision but ultimately may not stand by their words. Nowadays, the system has already changed, as players can make demands. In the case of James Harden, being a superstar, I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing. He understands that he won't lose his job, even if the 76ers decide to trade him, which they have refused to do until now.

Might be but as we all know, owners will have to make promises, and players should take that as a grain of salt. I remember the Jordan Poole trade, Poole said that he was assured that he will not be traded by Dunleavy Jr. But in the next 12 hours, he was traded to the Wizards.

So that is a lesson that there is no absolute word in the NBA, it's business, the owner or the president of basketball for operations of a team will have to make the hard decision. And with that, Harden might be hurt by the promises and so he wanted to leave.

Players end up thinking they run too much in the NBA.  They've been given too much control of the process.  Theor job is to play basketball, it's the business side of the team to position the players how they see fit.  When players sign a contract for millions of dollars the owner can do whatever he wants with that player from there.  Ypu always here players surprised and say that it's a business in the end.  For these teams yeah it is lol. 

This is definitely a problem that’s getting worse. The players sort of have the owners over a barrel because owners don’t want to seem like they don’t have their players’ backs. Otherwise they won’t be able to get any free agents to go there. What’s happening now in Philly is probably going to keep players from signing there in the future.
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August 18, 2023, 05:19:30 PM
I don't what to speculate but it should be around the money I guess. Maybe he was promised to have a good money this season. But the owner turn his back on Harden.
Words are very powerful, and they should be honored. If James Harden is promised good money without conditions, then he is due for that. However, sometimes these businessmen are very clever; they tend to use their power to influence a player's decision but ultimately may not stand by their words. Nowadays, the system has already changed, as players can make demands. In the case of James Harden, being a superstar, I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing. He understands that he won't lose his job, even if the 76ers decide to trade him, which they have refused to do until now.

Might be but as we all know, owners will have to make promises, and players should take that as a grain of salt. I remember the Jordan Poole trade, Poole said that he was assured that he will not be traded by Dunleavy Jr. But in the next 12 hours, he was traded to the Wizards.

So that is a lesson that there is no absolute word in the NBA, it's business, the owner or the president of basketball for operations of a team will have to make the hard decision. And with that, Harden might be hurt by the promises and so he wanted to leave.

It's all about business. If the managements decide to take you out or not or not to give you what you want, then expect
that it will take place.

Management may keep you or trade you, even how those words are being pronounced publicly, and like what you mentioned about Poole
that's a good example of how those words can quickly twist.

Nothing can be done if the management decides whether to keep or to let you go.
legendary
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August 18, 2023, 03:44:41 PM
I don't what to speculate but it should be around the money I guess. Maybe he was promised to have a good money this season. But the owner turn his back on Harden.
Words are very powerful, and they should be honored. If James Harden is promised good money without conditions, then he is due for that. However, sometimes these businessmen are very clever; they tend to use their power to influence a player's decision but ultimately may not stand by their words. Nowadays, the system has already changed, as players can make demands. In the case of James Harden, being a superstar, I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing. He understands that he won't lose his job, even if the 76ers decide to trade him, which they have refused to do until now.

Might be but as we all know, owners will have to make promises, and players should take that as a grain of salt. I remember the Jordan Poole trade, Poole said that he was assured that he will not be traded by Dunleavy Jr. But in the next 12 hours, he was traded to the Wizards.

So that is a lesson that there is no absolute word in the NBA, it's business, the owner or the president of basketball for operations of a team will have to make the hard decision. And with that, Harden might be hurt by the promises and so he wanted to leave.

Players end up thinking they run too much in the NBA.  They've been given too much control of the process.  Theor job is to play basketball, it's the business side of the team to position the players how they see fit.  When players sign a contract for millions of dollars the owner can do whatever he wants with that player from there.  Ypu always here players surprised and say that it's a business in the end.  For these teams yeah it is lol. 
legendary
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August 18, 2023, 12:44:15 PM
I agree, Sixers are not "that" far away from being a championship contender, they just needed to focus on making the team better and they could keep Harden that way. The problem is that Sixers told Harden to get a pay cut so they could get better players to surround him and Embiid in order to win a title, he agreed and then they got nobody. This is why there is a trouble and with Harden gone then why would Embiid stay. I am guessing that Harden will want out because he has been lied to, but if Sixers could manage to get some great players, then Harden could be turned to be happy, might be too late though. This is not a good idea for either side, nobody will get anything out of this.
They got Tucker with that pay cut that Harden did, and he did well at least as a role player. The problem is Harden himself because he choked at the time when the Sixers needed him the most, and that is Game 7 against the Celtics. He made the winning shot in Game 6, but was almost non-existent in Game 7. It wasn't Harden that's the problem at that time, but Harden himself. They've got good role players that season.

With regards to Embiid, he will stay for another season with the Sixers, and if there is still no development, or progress in terms of their performance in the playoffs, it's almost certain that he will request a trade to another team. Overall, Harden will play with the Sixers, and he must play or his value will go lower. "NO" teams want him anymore, and if there is, they probably are trying to negotiate with the Sixers already. I mean Harden is an all-star player, but his drama is too much to handle for the team, and it's much worse than Irving IMO. On the other hand, I will not be surprised if there will be teams that will be interested in Harden especially those championship caliber teams right now.
I am not sure if getting Tucker is a good idea as a championship contender team. I mean if you asked Harden to get a paycut just to get Tucker, that is not a good move, if he was told that they would get Tucker and he agreed to it then you are right about it, but if he was asked and just told that they will get another good player, without giving a name, after seeing Tucker then I would guess Harden would be pissed. That guy is not a difference maker if you ask me and should not be considered as a good player at all.

I believe that there are situations where it will take a little bit of a while before teams get used to each other as well. Harden may not be playing the best basketball of his life, but he is still decent enough.
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