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July 07, 2023, 07:26:25 AM
Currently, there are no concrete news about Dame's trade and Portland is still giving the Heat the chance to have Dame this offseason.
Regarding about the trade, it seems that a 3rd party is needed on the trade and it's the Brooklyn Nets who surfaced amongst all teams who are interested to facilitate it because Portland have changed their mind and that they are now not interested in getting Tyler Herro.

Here's the Mock Trade:
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Source: https://allucanheat.com/2023/07/06/perfect-3-team-trade-damian-lillard-miami-heat/

It's funny. This site calls it "a perfect 3-team trade", but I'd say it's a perfect deal only for the Nets and the Heat but not for the Blazers. The way I see it, getting a few future first-round picks, as well as an aging Lowry and a weird guy like Simmons, would be a dumb decision by the Blazers' management. In that case, the Blazers would look like the Rockets, who have been trying to rebuild their team for a few seasons now.

That's what would happen if they give up their main players without receiving quality players in return. They might need to wait a little longer to rebuild their team effectively. It would be beneficial for Portland to acquire a star player, especially considering Lillard's desire to leave the team. As for the Heat, Jimmy could be a good trade option, but it remains uncertain whether the Heat would agree to such a trade.

We don't have a clue yet about what will happen, as the teams involved have already laid their cards on the table. However, it appears that Portland still remains uninterested in the situation.
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July 07, 2023, 06:24:43 AM
Currently, there are no concrete news about Dame's trade and Portland is still giving the Heat the chance to have Dame this offseason.
Regarding about the trade, it seems that a 3rd party is needed on the trade and it's the Brooklyn Nets who surfaced amongst all teams who are interested to facilitate it because Portland have changed their mind and that they are now not interested in getting Tyler Herro.

Here's the Mock Trade:
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Source: https://allucanheat.com/2023/07/06/perfect-3-team-trade-damian-lillard-miami-heat/

It's funny. This site calls it "a perfect 3-team trade", but I'd say it's a perfect deal only for the Nets and the Heat but not for the Blazers. The way I see it, getting a few future first-round picks, as well as an aging Lowry and a weird guy like Simmons, would be a dumb decision by the Blazers' management. In that case, the Blazers would look like the Rockets, who have been trying to rebuild their team for a few seasons now.
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July 07, 2023, 05:31:51 AM
Here's the Mock Trade:

Miami Heat gets:
Damian Lillard
Jusuf Nurkic

Portland Trail Blazers gets:
Ben Simmons
Kyle Lowry
Nikola Jovic
2028 first-round pick (via Brooklyn)
2028 first-round pick (via Miami)
2030 first-round pick (via Miami)

Brooklyn Nets gets:
Tyler Herro
2026 second-round pick (via Miami)

Source: https://allucanheat.com/2023/07/06/perfect-3-team-trade-damian-lillard-miami-heat/

If this trade happens Heat would rob all of them. Getting Lillard and Nurkić for basically nothing is a great deal for them. Lowry is at the retirement stage, maybe this is his last year. Nikola Jović didn't get any time in Heat and Herro is not an indispensable player. Jimmy Butler and Damian Lillard combo would work in next 2 seasons as we may see Heat in finals again.

Nurkic would serve as a legitimate center or a backup for Bam, providing significant help to the Heat in their pursuit of becoming championship contenders next season. While the Blazers may face challenges in the upcoming season, the trade offer could be beneficial for the team if they have long-term success in mind. Perhaps Lillard is truly seeking a coach who prioritizes defense, something he hasn't experienced in Portland.
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July 07, 2023, 03:16:07 AM
Here's the Mock Trade:

Miami Heat gets:
Damian Lillard
Jusuf Nurkic

Portland Trail Blazers gets:
Ben Simmons
Kyle Lowry
Nikola Jovic
2028 first-round pick (via Brooklyn)
2028 first-round pick (via Miami)
2030 first-round pick (via Miami)

Brooklyn Nets gets:
Tyler Herro
2026 second-round pick (via Miami)

Source: https://allucanheat.com/2023/07/06/perfect-3-team-trade-damian-lillard-miami-heat/

If this trade happens Heat would rob all of them. Getting Lillard and Nurkić for basically nothing is a great deal for them. Lowry is at the retirement stage, maybe this is his last year. Nikola Jović didn't get any time in Heat and Herro is not an indispensable player. Jimmy Butler and Damian Lillard combo would work in next 2 seasons as we may see Heat in finals again.
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July 07, 2023, 02:54:29 AM
Not sure if this is worth something to discuss here, hehehe,

https://twitter.com/SportsLine/status/1677084397764333570

There were reports that Wemby's security or body guard or whatever you call it, assaulted Britney Spears.

It's not even the start of the season, and yet he is in a controversy already. And for sure Wemby's detractors and haters are going to used this one to picture him as someone is not approachable.
Looks like it has been deleted by the poster and likely been involve on Wemby's camp for it to be deleted. I don't think it has weight if they will just make some argument about how his bodyguards behave, it's not like he's at fault on that. The controversy will fade and it's not really about him so for a week there will be no talk about it already.

So that is why I have been hearing a lot of Britney this day. Grin
Well, I have read this ESPN report.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/37971056/spurs-victor-wembanyama-describes-security-incident-britney-spears
So two different story.
Wembanyaama:
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San Antonio Spurs rookie Victor Wembanyama said Thursday he believes Britney Spears grabbed him from behind as he was walking into a restaurant at a Las Vegas casino, and that the security detail he was with pushed the pop star away.
Britney Spears:
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Spears refuted Wembanyama's account that she had grabbed him, saying she just "simply tapped him on the shoulder" and that his security "backhanded me in the face without looking back, in front of a crowd. Nearly knocking me down and causing my glasses off my face.

Spears should only get a public apology from the security detail and not Victor. First of all, she was the one who either grabbed him or tapped him. She could ask nicely by using his freaking mouth. That's a star now and of course, he will be protected by those who are surrounding him and we all know how touching is so big deal in America. You cannot touch anyone or even just tap them.
But @rhomelmabini is right, this won't take long. That's Britney and she ain't on top anymore. I know what she will say, "Oops, I did it again." Grin

I don't think this will affect the image of Wemby, this actually has nothing to do with him anymore. If Britney wants to take it to court then so be it but I doubt Wemby will be entangled by it.
Where else could I see what happened because the shared tweet is deleted and I cannot find it in Google? Was it a cctv footage or just a picture? I am kind of curious.
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July 07, 2023, 12:57:15 AM
Not sure if this is worth something to discuss here, hehehe,

https://twitter.com/SportsLine/status/1677084397764333570

There were reports that Wemby's security or body guard or whatever you call it, assaulted Britney Spears.

It's not even the start of the season, and yet he is in a controversy already. And for sure Wemby's detractors and haters are going to used this one to picture him as someone is not approachable.
Looks like it has been deleted by the poster and likely been involve on Wemby's camp for it to be deleted. I don't think it has weight if they will just make some argument about how his bodyguards behave, it's not like he's at fault on that. The controversy will fade and it's not really about him so for a week there will be no talk about it already.
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July 07, 2023, 12:01:45 AM
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Here's the Mock Trade:

Miami Heat gets:
Damian Lillard
Jusuf Nurkic

Portland Trail Blazers gets:
Ben Simmons
Kyle Lowry
Nikola Jovic
2028 first-round pick (via Brooklyn)
2028 first-round pick (via Miami)
2030 first-round pick (via Miami)

Brooklyn Nets gets:
Tyler Herro
2026 second-round pick (via Miami)

Source: https://allucanheat.com/2023/07/06/perfect-3-team-trade-damian-lillard-miami-heat/
Just by looking at the trade, I know for sure that the Blazers will decline on this one.

That seems like a significant price for Portland to pay. However, if they are committed to rebuilding, then it might be acceptable, as they would be acquiring some first-round picks that could assist the team's growth once again. Jusuf Nurkic is a capable center, but he is considered an average center, and it appears that he has become prone to injuries. So I guess it's a win-win for the teams involve.
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July 06, 2023, 08:24:13 PM
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Here's the Mock Trade:

Miami Heat gets:
Damian Lillard
Jusuf Nurkic

Portland Trail Blazers gets:
Ben Simmons
Kyle Lowry
Nikola Jovic
2028 first-round pick (via Brooklyn)
2028 first-round pick (via Miami)
2030 first-round pick (via Miami)

Brooklyn Nets gets:
Tyler Herro
2026 second-round pick (via Miami)

Source: https://allucanheat.com/2023/07/06/perfect-3-team-trade-damian-lillard-miami-heat/
Just by looking at the trade, I know for sure that the Blazers will decline on this one.

They will give away 2 of their best players for some old players like Lowry, an inconsistent player like Simmons, a young player like Jovic (which can be a good one), and some draft picks. I hope that the Blazers will not agree on this one because they're doomed. There's no hope for Simmons to go back to it's all-star self already. Maybe after his contract because he will be a liability to the team where he is just because of his contract.

The Boston Celtics is now out of the race to directly take Damian Lillard.
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TBH, they have a better player to give out to Portland that Miami have currently.

They have Brogdon, Robert Williams, some bench players out there, and maybe if they really want Lillard they might give Horford as well if needed. Compare to Miami's assets, the Celtics have better assets to give out. The problem is Lillard don't want to play with other teams other than Miami, but he doesn't have control on his trade like Beal had. Nevertheless, if the Blazers will not fulfill Lillard's wish, it might affect his career. Now if the Heat really want him, I think the best scenario is to have a 3 or 4 team deal, or to include either Bam or Butler in the mix, and for sure the Heat fans don't want it for sure.

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There were reports that Wemby's security or body guard or whatever you call it, assaulted Britney Spears.

It's not even the start of the season, and yet he is in a controversy already. And for sure Wemby's detractors and haters are going to used this one to picture him as someone is not approachable.
Brandon Miller's first 2 games are worth discussing more than this one. Cheesy
After all, it's his security only like what others said here. If it's Wemby then we have a problem here, and he don't control his guards as well. On the other hand, Miller's performance in his first 2 games in the Summer League is just awful to the point that analysts right now is questioning him already. Cheesy
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July 06, 2023, 07:59:39 PM
According to the latest news I've read, there is only one team that Damian Lillard wants to be traded to now and that is the Miami Heat. (Shams Charania)

If this trade happens, it will be very good for the Miami Heat.
Do you think this trade will happen?

Damian Lillard's agent, Aaron Goodwin, said keeping Lillard on the team or trading him to a team other than Miami would make Lillard unhappy.

Teams don't want to add an unhappy player to their team.

I don’t know… There are a lot of teams that want Dame’s services and if given the opportunity they would surely jump at it. Portland also talks great about how they’re going to do what it takes to make Dame happy, but at the end of the day it’s a business and the best deal will be the one they take, regardless of how it makes them look.


The Blazers are also not pleased with the offer from the Heat, as it is not attractive enough. There are numerous teams that would be interested in acquiring Lillard, and the Blazers would likely be happy to explore trade possibilities.

However, if Lillard himself is not content with the potential destination, it could create complications for the receiving team. In this kind of situation, it would depend on the specific circumstances and the priorities of the Blazers' management. They would need to carefully consider Lillard's wishes, team dynamics, potential trade packages, and long-term goals in order to make the best decision and handle the situation effectively.
Portland doesn't want Tyler Herro is what it likely boils down to. He's not good for their culture. I think in order for Miami to get the deal done, they are going to have to involve a 3rd team. Maybe the 3rd team gets Herro and Miami gives up a couple draft picks while Portland gets the draft picks and a player from the 3rd team. Whatever it is, it's going to take alot more then what has been offered so far.

Brooklyn Nets are being talked about in this trade. (Portland-Miami-Brooklyn)
Brooklyn Nets want to send Ben Simmons off the team, maybe they can get Tyler Herro. Let's see what kind of trade Portland will make.

Portland swapping Damian Lillard for Ben Simmons would be one of the biggest fails they could possibly partake in. They’d be losing a great player for a mentally destroyed player with a bad contract. I don’t think there’s any way that happens and if it does then the Trailblazers owner should immediately fire the general manager of the team.

I just wrote what I read. Smiley I agree with you about Simmons, I don't think Simmons should be traded for anyone.

What I read is that the flopping penalty is given after the game has stopped.  It may not have been fully explained because the rule is newer. This rule becomes clearer in the upcoming games.
Yeah, but on the sample you shared, the referees were forced to stop the game while there is a live ball. It should be done during a dead ball. The guard is trying to make a play and is surprised a whistle was blown. Just to avoid those sudden shocks. They will give people heart attacks.  Cheesy

Yes I know, maybe the referees made such a mistake because the rule is new. I think it will not continue like this in the next games. NBA management needs to explain the rule again to the referees.
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July 06, 2023, 06:21:10 PM
The new rule started to be applied in the NBA summer league.
The first flopping penalty was given to the Golden State Warriors in the Sacramento Kings vs Golden State Warriors game played last night.

You can watch from the link below.
https://twitter.com/herseynba/status/1676577174881443840

Very interesting to see this. I’m sure it’ll be called plenty in the upcoming season. I am a little surprised that the flop call was on a 3-point shot like that. I would have expected it to be a drive or a screen. I also wasn’t aware this was going from a fine to a technical, but I guess it makes sense given how much month these guys are making now.

Does it mean that NBA will be boring next season from this flopping call and the game somewhat slow because it's going to be a technical foul and the opposing team getting a free throw?

So let's see how the new rule, for sure players are going to adjust again specially for those who are used to this kind of "flop" plays.

No news yet on Dame's trade, seems to be so quiet and it only means no deal has been done or there are still like ironing things out.

Players flopping left and right isn't also entertaining IMO. It kinda ruins the flow of the game and a lot of teams are resorting to this 'strategy' rather than get the ball around and make points that matter. It also affects how the ball is handled by these players because they can literally just flop in the moment of a turnover. I wonder how will the players that do this react to this change? They have to really up their handling game if they want to make sure that they won't lose the ball to a turnover and possibly lose points in the process.

Players flopping is definitely not fun to watch, and even though I don't watch a whole lot of European football (or soccer as we call it) I know players flop in that sport as well and everyone hates it there too.  It's certainly going to make a good amount of players have to change up their game a bit.  I know Lebron is pretty famous for flopping, and as he get's older, not being able to do so as much will be interesting to witness.
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July 06, 2023, 06:17:08 PM
Not sure if this is worth something to discuss here, hehehe,

https://twitter.com/SportsLine/status/1677084397764333570

There were reports that Wemby's security or body guard or whatever you call it, assaulted Britney Spears.

It's not even the start of the season, and yet he is in a controversy already.
It's "his" security body guard and it has nothing to do with him. These media people are just romanticizing him as it's better views if there's a known name attached to the headlines they make.

And for sure Wemby's detractors and haters are going to used this one to picture him as someone is not approachable.
For sure, the kid has just got in to his dream of getting into the league and there's already something like this even it has nothing to do with him. Poor guy but then, this will be clear then as everyone will understand it's not him but his security detail.
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July 06, 2023, 06:10:23 PM
According to the latest news I've read, there is only one team that Damian Lillard wants to be traded to now and that is the Miami Heat. (Shams Charania)

If this trade happens, it will be very good for the Miami Heat.
Do you think this trade will happen?

Damian Lillard's agent, Aaron Goodwin, said keeping Lillard on the team or trading him to a team other than Miami would make Lillard unhappy.

Teams don't want to add an unhappy player to their team.

I don’t know… There are a lot of teams that want Dame’s services and if given the opportunity they would surely jump at it. Portland also talks great about how they’re going to do what it takes to make Dame happy, but at the end of the day it’s a business and the best deal will be the one they take, regardless of how it makes them look.


The Blazers are also not pleased with the offer from the Heat, as it is not attractive enough. There are numerous teams that would be interested in acquiring Lillard, and the Blazers would likely be happy to explore trade possibilities.

However, if Lillard himself is not content with the potential destination, it could create complications for the receiving team. In this kind of situation, it would depend on the specific circumstances and the priorities of the Blazers' management. They would need to carefully consider Lillard's wishes, team dynamics, potential trade packages, and long-term goals in order to make the best decision and handle the situation effectively.
Portland doesn't want Tyler Herro is what it likely boils down to. He's not good for their culture. I think in order for Miami to get the deal done, they are going to have to involve a 3rd team. Maybe the 3rd team gets Herro and Miami gives up a couple draft picks while Portland gets the draft picks and a player from the 3rd team. Whatever it is, it's going to take alot more then what has been offered so far.

Brooklyn Nets are being talked about in this trade. (Portland-Miami-Brooklyn)
Brooklyn Nets want to send Ben Simmons off the team, maybe they can get Tyler Herro. Let's see what kind of trade Portland will make.

Portland swapping Damian Lillard for Ben Simmons would be one of the biggest fails they could possibly partake in. They’d be losing a great player for a mentally destroyed player with a bad contract. I don’t think there’s any way that happens and if it does then the Trailblazers owner should immediately fire the general manager of the team.
Agreed, Simmons is trash but it looks like Kyle Lowry and 3 1st round draft picks are in the mix as well so it may not be too bad. The draft picks are 2028 and 2030 so who knows what talent will pop up 5 years from now. Portland def loses the trade right now, but could win the trade in the long run.
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July 06, 2023, 06:01:56 PM
According to the latest news I've read, there is only one team that Damian Lillard wants to be traded to now and that is the Miami Heat. (Shams Charania)

If this trade happens, it will be very good for the Miami Heat.
Do you think this trade will happen?

Damian Lillard's agent, Aaron Goodwin, said keeping Lillard on the team or trading him to a team other than Miami would make Lillard unhappy.

Teams don't want to add an unhappy player to their team.

I don’t know… There are a lot of teams that want Dame’s services and if given the opportunity they would surely jump at it. Portland also talks great about how they’re going to do what it takes to make Dame happy, but at the end of the day it’s a business and the best deal will be the one they take, regardless of how it makes them look.


The Blazers are also not pleased with the offer from the Heat, as it is not attractive enough. There are numerous teams that would be interested in acquiring Lillard, and the Blazers would likely be happy to explore trade possibilities.

However, if Lillard himself is not content with the potential destination, it could create complications for the receiving team. In this kind of situation, it would depend on the specific circumstances and the priorities of the Blazers' management. They would need to carefully consider Lillard's wishes, team dynamics, potential trade packages, and long-term goals in order to make the best decision and handle the situation effectively.
Portland doesn't want Tyler Herro is what it likely boils down to. He's not good for their culture. I think in order for Miami to get the deal done, they are going to have to involve a 3rd team. Maybe the 3rd team gets Herro and Miami gives up a couple draft picks while Portland gets the draft picks and a player from the 3rd team. Whatever it is, it's going to take alot more then what has been offered so far.

Brooklyn Nets are being talked about in this trade. (Portland-Miami-Brooklyn)
Brooklyn Nets want to send Ben Simmons off the team, maybe they can get Tyler Herro. Let's see what kind of trade Portland will make.

Portland swapping Damian Lillard for Ben Simmons would be one of the biggest fails they could possibly partake in. They’d be losing a great player for a mentally destroyed player with a bad contract. I don’t think there’s any way that happens and if it does then the Trailblazers owner should immediately fire the general manager of the team.
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July 06, 2023, 05:46:31 PM
According to the latest news I've read, there is only one team that Damian Lillard wants to be traded to now and that is the Miami Heat. (Shams Charania)

If this trade happens, it will be very good for the Miami Heat.
Do you think this trade will happen?

Damian Lillard's agent, Aaron Goodwin, said keeping Lillard on the team or trading him to a team other than Miami would make Lillard unhappy.

Teams don't want to add an unhappy player to their team.

I don’t know… There are a lot of teams that want Dame’s services and if given the opportunity they would surely jump at it. Portland also talks great about how they’re going to do what it takes to make Dame happy, but at the end of the day it’s a business and the best deal will be the one they take, regardless of how it makes them look.


The Blazers are also not pleased with the offer from the Heat, as it is not attractive enough. There are numerous teams that would be interested in acquiring Lillard, and the Blazers would likely be happy to explore trade possibilities.

However, if Lillard himself is not content with the potential destination, it could create complications for the receiving team. In this kind of situation, it would depend on the specific circumstances and the priorities of the Blazers' management. They would need to carefully consider Lillard's wishes, team dynamics, potential trade packages, and long-term goals in order to make the best decision and handle the situation effectively.
Portland doesn't want Tyler Herro is what it likely boils down to. He's not good for their culture. I think in order for Miami to get the deal done, they are going to have to involve a 3rd team. Maybe the 3rd team gets Herro and Miami gives up a couple draft picks while Portland gets the draft picks and a player from the 3rd team. Whatever it is, it's going to take alot more then what has been offered so far.

Brooklyn Nets are being talked about in this trade. (Portland-Miami-Brooklyn)
Brooklyn Nets want to send Ben Simmons off the team, maybe they can get Tyler Herro. Let's see what kind of trade Portland will make.
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July 06, 2023, 05:44:52 PM
It will probably take some more time for the referees to adapt since this is a new rule, and it is still being tested. So we shouldn't be so critical of it just yet. In my opinion, the NBA management made the right decision by adding this rule. Ideally, it should motivate the current generation of NBA players to stop abusing flopping, and then I hope the NBA won't be as soft as it is now.
Yes. We cannot expect too much yet, just like how I didn't expect too much about the offensive foul on offensive players who are the ones who initiated the contact. Until now, they are missing a lot of those calls and one critical event that happened was when Jimmy Butler was extending his feet for a three-pointer against Michael Porter Jr. during the 2023 NBA Finals. It was obvious that it was an offensive foul for that is not his normal shooting form and yet the referees still called it a defensive foul against Porter.
Improvements, I think that's what I am looking for, and again their consistency on the calls they will make. It's not an easy job, I know that but this is why we have reviews.
I like what Jeff Van Gundy said about the replays, "Why do we still have them if we cannot use them?". They should bring back looking at replays in crucial times especially when there not much time left.

What I read is that the flopping penalty is given after the game has stopped.  It may not have been fully explained because the rule is newer. This rule becomes clearer in the upcoming games.
Yeah, but on the sample you shared, the referees were forced to stop the game while there is a live ball. It should be done during a dead ball. The guard is trying to make a play and is surprised a whistle was blown. Just to avoid those sudden shocks. They will give people heart attacks.  Cheesy
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July 06, 2023, 05:43:41 PM
Not sure if this is worth something to discuss here, hehehe,

https://twitter.com/SportsLine/status/1677084397764333570

There were reports that Wemby's security or body guard or whatever you call it, assaulted Britney Spears.

It's not even the start of the season, and yet he is in a controversy already. And for sure Wemby's detractors and haters are going to used this one to picture him as someone is not approachable.
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July 06, 2023, 04:45:57 PM
No news yet on Dame's trade, seems to be so quiet and it only means no deal has been done or there are still like ironing things out.

Currently, there are no concrete news about Dame's trade and Portland is still giving the Heat the chance to have Dame this offseason.
Regarding about the trade, it seems that a 3rd party is needed on the trade and it's the Brooklyn Nets who surfaced amongst all teams who are interested to facilitate it because Portland have changed their mind and that they are now not interested in getting Tyler Herro.

Here's the Mock Trade:

Miami Heat gets:
Damian Lillard
Jusuf Nurkic

Portland Trail Blazers gets:
Ben Simmons
Kyle Lowry
Nikola Jovic
2028 first-round pick (via Brooklyn)
2028 first-round pick (via Miami)
2030 first-round pick (via Miami)

Brooklyn Nets gets:
Tyler Herro
2026 second-round pick (via Miami)

Source: https://allucanheat.com/2023/07/06/perfect-3-team-trade-damian-lillard-miami-heat/

Honestly Portland gets 3 future first round picks in thos package which isn't all that bad.  They can plan for the future but the only thing I'd say is that they'd want those first round picks a lot closer to now.  Like okc has done, stacked all the young guys together and let them grow together.  If two of those are in the 2024-2026 range I'd say that would get it done.

Of course, when you get a lot of future picks, then it's good for your team, however, it is still not an assurance that you can select young players that can blossom to be a superstar, many teams have done this before and most of the times it doesn't pay that much.

As for the flopping, at least the league is doing something now, for those who have been watching NBA for years, we don't want to see players flopped to act to sell a foul. And that's why you will hear former NBA legends saying that the game is now soft as compare to previous era.

Those future picks don't always get used as actual picks though.  Most of the time they use them at trade deadlines to snahlg up current players that will help theor team.  Having a ton of future firsts gives you the flexibility of how you want to shape your team for the next 5-10 years.  Picks are a commodity almost as good as players are.

Right, just like the impact on OKC trading their star players WB or even Paul George, they have a good haul for their future picks, but so far they are still in the rebuilding phase after that.

So yeah teams could be flexible, but it might take sometime for them to really appreciate those trades that they've made to get future picks. Or could become a bust or gem for them. Like when they drafted Giddey and last year Chet, but unfortunately he got injured.
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July 06, 2023, 04:27:32 PM
No news yet on Dame's trade, seems to be so quiet and it only means no deal has been done or there are still like ironing things out.

Currently, there are no concrete news about Dame's trade and Portland is still giving the Heat the chance to have Dame this offseason.
Regarding about the trade, it seems that a 3rd party is needed on the trade and it's the Brooklyn Nets who surfaced amongst all teams who are interested to facilitate it because Portland have changed their mind and that they are now not interested in getting Tyler Herro.

Here's the Mock Trade:

Miami Heat gets:
Damian Lillard
Jusuf Nurkic

Portland Trail Blazers gets:
Ben Simmons
Kyle Lowry
Nikola Jovic
2028 first-round pick (via Brooklyn)
2028 first-round pick (via Miami)
2030 first-round pick (via Miami)

Brooklyn Nets gets:
Tyler Herro
2026 second-round pick (via Miami)

Source: https://allucanheat.com/2023/07/06/perfect-3-team-trade-damian-lillard-miami-heat/

Honestly Portland gets 3 future first round picks in thos package which isn't all that bad.  They can plan for the future but the only thing I'd say is that they'd want those first round picks a lot closer to now.  Like okc has done, stacked all the young guys together and let them grow together.  If two of those are in the 2024-2026 range I'd say that would get it done.

Of course, when you get a lot of future picks, then it's good for your team, however, it is still not an assurance that you can select young players that can blossom to be a superstar, many teams have done this before and most of the times it doesn't pay that much.

As for the flopping, at least the league is doing something now, for those who have been watching NBA for years, we don't want to see players flopped to act to sell a foul. And that's why you will hear former NBA legends saying that the game is now soft as compare to previous era.

Those future picks don't always get used as actual picks though.  Most of the time they use them at trade deadlines to snahlg up current players that will help theor team.  Having a ton of future firsts gives you the flexibility of how you want to shape your team for the next 5-10 years.  Picks are a commodity almost as good as players are.

It's up for the Portland now on how will they use these picks, either way, it will be useful for the team to have these kinds of aces on their hands because they have the power to choose whether to use it in draft or to use it in a trade. I'd say that this is already a good package and involving a 3rd team in the trade is making the trade more possible and for Dame to wear the Heat jersey next season. Overall, it's a win-win situation for the teams involved in this trade.
legendary
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July 06, 2023, 03:51:06 PM
No news yet on Dame's trade, seems to be so quiet and it only means no deal has been done or there are still like ironing things out.

Currently, there are no concrete news about Dame's trade and Portland is still giving the Heat the chance to have Dame this offseason.
Regarding about the trade, it seems that a 3rd party is needed on the trade and it's the Brooklyn Nets who surfaced amongst all teams who are interested to facilitate it because Portland have changed their mind and that they are now not interested in getting Tyler Herro.

Here's the Mock Trade:

Miami Heat gets:
Damian Lillard
Jusuf Nurkic

Portland Trail Blazers gets:
Ben Simmons
Kyle Lowry
Nikola Jovic
2028 first-round pick (via Brooklyn)
2028 first-round pick (via Miami)
2030 first-round pick (via Miami)

Brooklyn Nets gets:
Tyler Herro
2026 second-round pick (via Miami)

Source: https://allucanheat.com/2023/07/06/perfect-3-team-trade-damian-lillard-miami-heat/

Honestly Portland gets 3 future first round picks in thos package which isn't all that bad.  They can plan for the future but the only thing I'd say is that they'd want those first round picks a lot closer to now.  Like okc has done, stacked all the young guys together and let them grow together.  If two of those are in the 2024-2026 range I'd say that would get it done.

Of course, when you get a lot of future picks, then it's good for your team, however, it is still not an assurance that you can select young players that can blossom to be a superstar, many teams have done this before and most of the times it doesn't pay that much.

As for the flopping, at least the league is doing something now, for those who have been watching NBA for years, we don't want to see players flopped to act to sell a foul. And that's why you will hear former NBA legends saying that the game is now soft as compare to previous era.

Those future picks don't always get used as actual picks though.  Most of the time they use them at trade deadlines to snahlg up current players that will help theor team.  Having a ton of future firsts gives you the flexibility of how you want to shape your team for the next 5-10 years.  Picks are a commodity almost as good as players are.
hero member
Activity: 2660
Merit: 551
July 06, 2023, 03:43:43 PM
No news yet on Dame's trade, seems to be so quiet and it only means no deal has been done or there are still like ironing things out.

Currently, there are no concrete news about Dame's trade and Portland is still giving the Heat the chance to have Dame this offseason.
Regarding about the trade, it seems that a 3rd party is needed on the trade and it's the Brooklyn Nets who surfaced amongst all teams who are interested to facilitate it because Portland have changed their mind and that they are now not interested in getting Tyler Herro.

Here's the Mock Trade:

Miami Heat gets:
Damian Lillard
Jusuf Nurkic

Portland Trail Blazers gets:
Ben Simmons
Kyle Lowry
Nikola Jovic
2028 first-round pick (via Brooklyn)
2028 first-round pick (via Miami)
2030 first-round pick (via Miami)

Brooklyn Nets gets:
Tyler Herro
2026 second-round pick (via Miami)

Source: https://allucanheat.com/2023/07/06/perfect-3-team-trade-damian-lillard-miami-heat/

Honestly Portland gets 3 future first round picks in thos package which isn't all that bad.  They can plan for the future but the only thing I'd say is that they'd want those first round picks a lot closer to now.  Like okc has done, stacked all the young guys together and let them grow together.  If two of those are in the 2024-2026 range I'd say that would get it done.

Of course, when you get a lot of future picks, then it's good for your team, however, it is still not an assurance that you can select young players that can blossom to be a superstar, many teams have done this before and most of the times it doesn't pay that much.

As for the flopping, at least the league is doing something now, for those who have been watching NBA for years, we don't want to see players flopped to act to sell a foul. And that's why you will hear former NBA legends saying that the game is now soft as compare to previous era.
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