Topic: 2019 NBA Pre-Season - page 552. (Read 914452 times)

Well, as one of the haters of flopping, I like this move by them.

I mean this problem has been there for a very long time already, and yet they just addressed, and made decisions just now. I still remember Marcus Smart is the master of flopping, and what's hilarious is that referees are buying into his flops. That was years ago, and over time, there are many players who are doing the same as well. What I remember by the time I'm posting this is when Lonnie Walker IV ran into a screen by Draymond Green, and acted like Green hit his head. Referees called a charge against Green, but when they saw the replay, it was an obvious flop, and Green didn't even hit Walker's head at all.

I will also add Le-flop because there are times as well where he is flopping. Lebron fans might hate me with this one, but I'm pretty sure they also know that he's also flopping. Overall, let's not expect too much with this new rule because we don't know what can be the effect of this one into the league.

They really need to make this rule and permanently put it in the regular season so that we don't see such kinds of dirty strategies because right now, some of the players are nearly perfected how to do it in the game. Thankfully we have a great instant replay to see their dramatic action whenever they flop and steal possession from their opponent. and I think it should not take lightly but this is just a start to punish those fools to be playing like that while they are receiving millions of dollars to play well for their teams.

If they want to avoid the team's suffering, a trade will have to be arranged. We've seen a similar scenario with Simmons wanting to leave the 76ers, and the team choosing not to let him play while waiting for the right trade opportunity. Unfortunately, this decision resulted in the team's struggles. I hope the Blazers don't make the same mistake, especially since Lillard has already expressed his desire to leave the team. They should grant his request as soon as possible.

Yup, players who are now enjoying a secured contract unless an injury will take place. Those players who are now
signed with other teams will start moving and working with their new teammates and coaches.

No update yet with Lilard, those Socmed post is all speculation and no legit sources that can verify if both teams are
now negotiating, the name of Herro and Robinson are some of those possible trades that Miami can offer for Lilard.

Till there's no final contract signing, we are still unsure if that request trade can take place.

That's possible. They will count the basket and then just wait for a dead ball to call the flop. It must be shocking for the player who did it if it will take like 5 back-and-forth plays before the referee decides the free throw will be done.  Kind of hilarious and will get some players mad.

I have different players on my list. Number 1 is Marcus Smart. Next to him is Patrick Beverley. It will upset them probably especially those who are on their way to Hollywood. Just like when they changed that offensive player trying to receive a contact to get a foul. It was hard for James Harden and Trae Young.

Yeah, fines and warnings should not be enough because they are doing it in-game.
But I want to see the referee's consistency first. They have been adding a lot of rules in the NBA, will the referees be able to handle such a long list of newly added technicalities?
Last year, they added the rule about the ball carry, yet we can still see players get away with it. It should've been implemented years ago, after Iverson. It was actually a rule on other countries decades ago but the NBA loves their players doing Harlem Globetrotters moves.

It's good to see that they have finally taken action regarding flopping, which has been an issue in the league for a while. Now, these floppers (I don't want to mention specific names) will need to rethink their strategies to be effective. It's a step towards bringing back a more authentic game where real fouls are properly called, reminiscent of the style we saw in the 90s.

An anticipated rule change, the NBA needed it.
Players will be more careful after this rule change. Some players are probably upset about this rule change. Trae Young and Joel Embiid used these fouls a lot.

I haven't seen what the Heat are offering though, but Tyler could be a good deal for them as Hero can be used as their spot shooter, so it might be a good deal for them. It's going to be an issue if Portland for all the power they have, trade Lillard to a team that he didn't like. He specially says he wanted to be be in the East if I'm not mistaken.

So this drama will continue, and could be the biggest trade before the start of a new season.

Some players have settled down, got a good deal already and very happy to have the biggest paycheck fo their careers.

Certainly, both are interested in winning their first title. And I agree with you that if Lillard is traded to the Heat, it would be a win-win situation for both Butler and Lillard, as well as for the Heat. However, there is a small problem with this potential deal. The Blazers aren't satisfied with what the Heat offers them. As far as I know, they aren't even interested in Herro, who can average 20 points per game.

More on chasing the ring instead of having a good influenced to mentor a young rookie.

Beside coach Pop's capabilities are more than enough to build Wemby's characteristic, and to develop more on his skills,
I like to see Dame with a title contender team with an almost complete squad who needs another good scorer and
maybe Miami might be good for him to land.

Yes, I don't see Lillard looking for teams that they want him to be the mentor, on the contrary, I'm seeing Lillard going for teams that has a championship experienced or a good chance to enter the finals because he has been chasing at least a ring before he retires.

Maybe he is good friends with Butler and so he wanted to go to Miami. Although Miami under Butler hasn't won a ring yet, but they have been in 2 finals already and maybe they just need another one player like Lillard to finally get a championship, so it's a win-win situation for both of them.

I don't think he created pressure or something, he already shows intention that he wanted to be traded and Blazers said yes and Dame says he wanted to be be traded in Miami.

So that is clear as day as where he wanted to go, so there should be no issues whatsoever as the feeling should be mutual for both parties.

One thing though that might have affected is that fans because I've heard uproar already.

There's a rumor but not as strong as the miami news.

Lillard should take this easy and he should never create any pressure to Blazers since if this team will not like his future actions maybe he will go on the team where he don't like to play. He should wait for offers to come since if he have good separation with Blazers maybe this team will agree on what he likes and release him without any further issues.

Not until the season starts and we begin to see this new pieces from each team how effective they are, I would always take the Nuggets over every team in the NBA. I personally think no team from the contending playoff teams had the capacity to beat the championship Nuggets team. Though Bruce Brown Jr is with another team now, but I don't think it would affect the Nuggets ability to win another ring.
Lakers have made their changes, the Celtics should do the same and have an upgrade. The Suns, I'm not sure if that roster is enough, I mean they're stacked but most of these guys don't play defense.



I think they will count it since there are no statement in the rules about taking back some points if it's already been scored where the flopping transpired. Besides, the flopping violation needs to be reviewed and this is going to be another question as this will potentially lead to more reviews when there are a lot of contacts made and the ref blows the whistle in the same play. We have a lot of incidents where the officials made a really bad call even with the replays, they don't over turn a call as it hurts their ego. Let's see how this new rules turns out.
On the other hand, I've also heard that they will make changes in coaches challenge too, If a coaches' challenge is successful, they will retain their timeout and another challenge.

It's better late than never. A much needed rule change and this is going to play into the player's psyche whenever they try to sell a "foul".

I think the third part needs more explanation. I wonder what would happen if the flopper's team scored before the play was stopped. Will they count it then award the other team FT and ball possession?

I thought it was very weird that he made any comment about San Antonio whatsoever. I don’t think that’s the place that Damian Lillard is going to win a ring. I don’t think he will in Miami either but at least he has a good shot. In my opinion, the Lakers, Nuggets & Celtics (maybe the Suns) are still better than everyone else.

That would be a lot of fun to see those two play together, but I do t think I see Lillard wanting to go there. Sure they got Greg Popavich who’s an absolutely legendary coach whom is revered by players, but I think it’s going to take more than one sensational (potentially) rookie for them to win a championship.

I would expect him to go to a little bit more mature of a team. But he’s also not a free agent so thats obviously going to hurt his shot at going yo the teams he really wants to.

I've been weighing both players too as their salaries are just $10m away from each other. And I agree that Edwards' salary is more worthy than LaMelo Ball's. But this comparison is just individually, a part of it will be how effective their teammates will be especially Ball who is a guard that likes to make a play more than scoring on his own. Ant-Man on the other is an effective ISO player who can score on his own without too much leaning on his teammates. They are both worthy in some way.

That's a big risk that the Charlotte Hornets made considering the brother of LaMelo, Lonzo is now suffering an injury that might wreck his career. I guess they didn't add that to their decision before giving him the contract. Different people, different endings.

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As for the hated act of flopping. Here is the solution of the NBA.
https://twitter.com/NBAPR/status/1676290932994449409?s=20

Like a simple technical foul. Well, they should've done it years ago when it was rampant in the NBA. I just wish this will work because I have seen last year that the changed rule about offensive players taking the contact to receive a foul from the defender is not yet normally implemented. They are still missing a lot of those calls that could've been offensive fouls.

San Antonio can be a good place for an old Damian Lillard, when the number 1 draft diamond boy learning from him. The only thing that prevent this to happen its San Antonio never had a star player on hiw file, and yes tim duncan parker ginobili were stars but they are formed in San Antonio.
And DL its more individual player than collective.

That's the final deal if it's accepted. Well, you're right that all of what we're discussing for his reasons to be out of Blazers are all speculations.
I guess it's only a matter of time I think we finally see some news about this official trade of Blazers and parting away from them and going to his new team.