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I honestly think that he is a little bit delusional to actually look for a deal which is worth a hundred million dollars. He is quite old right now and he is not getting any younger with time. If any team actually wants to spend a hundred million I think they can get a far better player compared to him right now. If he is getting a five-year deal right now, I am quite sure that he is not going to be able to actually perform. Well, actually he wants to be able to perform at all after three years. So the last two years of the five-year deal are going to be him taking a free salary.

I like the Golden State Warriors being rid of Jordan Poole, he'll be such a mess to have as the heir to the post splash brothers era and he's shown it multiple times, in my candid opinion. The supposed new deal he got last year is already getting way deep into his head, but the if the Warriors clearing massively off their salary cap is to retain Draymond Green or hand him some ridiculous deal as mentioned above then trading Jordan Poole would be a stupid move in my opinion, I think this players also need to understand that these franchises are peoples business and they as players only stayed over the years because their getting as paid they dim fit and their dreams aligned, but this felling of entitlement after they're getting old and the franchise needs to start thinking of the future they begin to play some victim card, instead of just getting the hell away to some place where to they can milk some money off before calling it quits on their already ending careers.

Sometimes a player just doesn't fit on the team.  Obviously there were more off the court issues anyone is realizing here.  Something like that can sink a team.  So it might very well be worth that just for the subtraction of Poole.  And cp3 is still one of the best pure point guards in the league.  It's not like they got some bench rider for poole.

I do believe that Poole was a tradable asset, there is nothing wrong with that, but I am not entirely sure if he was a player they needed to get rid of, that was a bit over the top and I think it should be a bit different in that case. I think if you are handling the situation a bit differently, they could have gotten someone else.

Giving Poole AND picks for CP3 doesn't seem like a good trade, there is a potential to do something much bigger than that. Hopefully they will do better, not entirely sure if they would, but if they end up losing early on, that means that the trade was for nothing and they have lost a player for nothing. Either a title win or at the very worst case a conference finals would make this deal worth it to me.

Looking forward to see him manifesting with what coach Pop will bring to him,

Not sure about the injury, but maybe he can be like Banchero as he manages to play with some minor injury and survive the
season, if Wemby will also do the same and he will be paired or surrounded by good role players.

The chance of making his name and bringing the Spurs back as a contender might take place. Too early to conclude
what he can contribute, let the time will reveal that for us.

Defense and athletic ability.  He is a classic great college player that doesn't translate over to the NBA.  With his size he will get hammered by other players in the NBA.  He took advantage of playing against good 18 years and 19 year Olds.  He doesn't have the athletic ability to compete in the NBA though.  Most of the time it has to do with being able to play defense.

I’m surprised Green hasn’t been traded already. I don’t think he can play at a championship level anymore. His shooting has been terrible. He is no longer able to be a stretch 4 and his bullying style of defense isn’t going to age well. I think he’s got about 2 or 3 years left in the league before he can’t start on any team. No way would I want to offer him a deal longer than 3 years and at nowhere near his current salary.

We all saw this happen first with the Suns and also the other teams have followed by firing their coaches. What a crazy this past season had made for most teams and we're just done with the drafts.

I wouldn't judge him based on his past performance during the playoffs. It could just have been that he's got out of luck for that particular game and he might redeem himself for the next season.

Poor guy, he's still trying to catch up and process the trade.

Yeah, I've also heard rumors that Green naively thinks he deserves another $100 million contract and that the Warriors want him back. However, I still don't believe in this outcome. I mean, it makes no sense for the Warriors' management to offer him such a big, long contract because Green is 33 years old and already performing pretty mediocrely. Just imagine how bad he'll be when he turns 38.

Well, it's just me and I will never question the proven management of GSW. Poole failed to perform to the expectations, especially during the playoffs but so did Green compared to his previous year's output. There's also Green's decision earlier to end his contract which means that GSW is not even guaranteed to re-sign him. And if Green re-signs it also means a higher salary like a minimum of $30 million per year? I just don't think Green is worth that money anymore. GSW though made the right decision to ditch Poole if he fails to perform in a weak team because he has a huge contract fit for a star player.

He had a wish and his thoughts were different from everyone's expectations so turning down the offer was his heart's decision.
After all, accepting an offer in a team when he has no intention or compulsorily accepting will also never give good results in the future.
There may be other options but we don't know which one he will choose later.

Yes, the Warriors are always open for him to come back at any time and this is a tough decision whether to return for the Warriors or follow his heart.

There was a news about him but an update, we don't have.

Green enters unrestricted free agency after declining the $27.5 million player option

He has already declined an offer and I think if he'll negotiate with that, he have already done but he's probably going somewhere else and that's what his heart is telling him.

But for sure that the Warriors are open for him to comeback and alter his decision about the decline that he has made.

Wemby is a total package and a freak of nature and we have never seen anybody like him before base on his performances. I am too is looking forward if he's gonna live up to the hype or gonna be devastated with an injury. I can only see one reason if he can't live up to the hype, major injury.
One of the most important fundamental these new players should focus their attention to is their durability. The ability to absorb injuries to avoid a major one.
Let's see what Wemby can do now that he's in the NBA. I'm a bit confident he'll do good. European basketball has better defense that the NBA.

And to add to this one, Curry has played as a PG in most of his career. When is the time where he played as a Shooting Guard? In his rookie year where he, and Monta Ellis was teammates. Back then, Ellis was their starting PG while Curry is the SG, and obviously it didn't work well.

This is the reason why I don't see CP3 as a starting PG in the Warriors. He has two options. Either accept the role as a bench, and lead the role players for a higher chance of winning a title, or be traded if he doesn't want to be a bench, and choose to be a starter. CP3 has a long list of injuries in his whole NBA career as well, and obviously he is almost non-existent during the playoffs, so even though they are considering him as "Point God" which I agree, I don't want to rely on him especially during the playoffs.

What the Warriors need right now are role players. In the years where they won a title, they are being surrounded by very good role players. Now they need some of them as well. They got GP2, Kuminga, Moody, but they need more especially a big that can sub out with Looney.

Well you have a point in that, but what did Poole contributed with the Warriors? Compare it to what Green has contributed in his whole NBA career. Yes Poole is young, but if I'm the GM, I'd rather keep Green as well because of how he impacts his teammates, and the whole team.

Like you said, Poole can just stay with the Wizards, and be the main player of the team. He didn't experience that in the Warriors since he's always been a bench. Now he can prove himself next season if he can be a reliable guard on a rebuilding team.

Victor Wembanyama is lauded, but will he really be okay? Most of the tall players drafted in recent years have disappeared, except for 2-3. It's interesting that a French Power Forward was undoubtedly picked first in the draft, I call it the Doncic and Jokic factor. If they had not been so successful, we would not have seen the first pick tall European to be chosen. It will be good for the player that he goes to the Spurs. The organization that shines International players best may be Spurs. Let's see what he will do in the rookie season.

You have a point comparing their age, but I don't really see Poole being as good as Curry or even a champion. This guy isn't clutch; he has the talent, that's given, but he loses his composure under pressure, unlike Green, who really stays composed. That's the reason why the Warriors won multiple championships.

It's a management decision because if they think Poole is worth keeping, then they shouldn't trade him.

However, Poole showed some immaturity during the last playoffs. He didn't act like a player who is paid a max contract, so the team was disappointed.

I prefer Poole over Green since the former is still young and can improve while the latter has already seen its glory days. But it is very hard to say something negative about the management of GSW since they're a proven successful team. They saw something in CP3 that makes their team stronger, something that only a few fans can understand. And even with their decision to let go of Poole, Green already made his decision to end his contract. I felt like Green is just bluffing about wanting to make bigger money and he will settle and re-sign with GSW with lesser money than his ridiculous demands. 

Poole can stay with the Wizards and maybe he becomes the main man in that team. But there is always the chance to buy out if he wants to be in a team capable of competing against the other top teams.

That's the good thing by acquiring CP3 and trading it for Poole but we know about how he's too prone to injuries and hopefully that it won't happen a lot. Most specially in those crucial times like if it happens that they're in a playoffs game or semi finals.

Maybe it will come in a blessing that he's there and he'll be treated differently unlike just by a support on his former team. I am looking at some websites that lists these rosters and they haven't updated yet the teams and roster like CP3 is still on Wizards, the same goes for Beal and Poole.

Eventually, as long as he remains healthy, Wemby has the potential to become stronger, much like Kevin Durant. At first glance, Durant's physique might make one think he can be easily targeted, but in reality, he is not only a great offensive player but also a tough defender in his position. So, I wouldn't be surprised if Wemby develops into a player like Durant or even surpasses him someday, as long as the team knows how to manage his growth and development effectively.

Man, the trades are going crazy. Undrafted players are also being signed.
The number 10 pick of the Dallas Mavericks + Davis Bertans will be traded for OKC number 12 and then Dereck Lively.
So much is happening, I think I'll just check the roster once everything is settled down. It's hard to keep up with all the picks being traded and some more.
Let's just focus on the big names that will soon be in a different jersey.

Looks like the Golden State Warriors are also trying to strengthen their outside shooting after trading Jordan Poole. They signed undrafted Javan Johnson for a 1-year deal. 42.6 field goal percentage and 41.2 in 3 points percentage. Not bad.
https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1672105899790589952?s=20
Longer contract, that's his goal in this drama. And I think GM Dunleavy's move of trading Jordan Poole was the answer to that. He will probably give Draymond what he wants but let's see how much their luxury tax will be. They have a lot of players who are eating all their salary cap and I bet they are over it.