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So it might be a 3 year deal for Green worth $100 Million++

Damn! That's a huge L for the Warriors if they grant Green that much for a 3-year deal imo. I think $80M would be the more ideal or the max contract they should offer. That's probably enough money to show respect for his previous contributions to the team that brought four championships before they part ways. This is great for Draymond if he gets that over $100M and probably bad for Klay when he becomes a UFA next season.

I think that's a bad deal.
Why pay 100 million for 3 years for a guy who is averaging a tripple single. Grin

Of course he has "veteran leadership" and is a 2 way player, but not for that money. Age is also a big factor, also his brain farts he likes to produce. Never forgetting his endless run of flagrant fouls and brain less buzzer beater attempts instead of passing the ball to Steph or Klay.

He is a deserving franchise player but you should make this a better business decision, especially with the new CBA coming.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on June 25, 2023, 09:29:57 PM

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So it might be a 3 year deal for Green worth $100 Million++

Damn! That's a huge L for the Warriors if they grant Green that much for a 3-year deal imo. I think $80M would be the more ideal or the max contract they should offer. That's probably enough money to show respect for his previous contributions to the team that brought four championships before they part ways. This is great for Draymond if he gets that over $100M and probably bad for Klay when he becomes a UFA next season.

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Warriors management really working hard to get Draymond Green back to their roster, Warriors Rumors: 'Strong Confidence' Draymond Green Signs Multiyear Contract with GSW.

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"I continue to hear nothing but strong confidence emanating from the Bay Area that an agreement on a multi-year deal for Green to stay right where he's always been is forthcoming. (A three-year deal, league sources say, is a popular current projection for the 33-year-old.)" Stein wrote.

So it might be a 3 year deal for Green worth $100 Million++ and it might be the same as Steph Curry's contract. And it's obvious that they need to cut ties with Poole because of his huge contract. But still signing Draymond will have them over the luxury tax.

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Not official, it could be just a rumor, but I heard that the Knicks is pursuing Zach Lavine? It says that the Bull are looking for young players and future draft picks and of course salaries as well.

So it might be Brunson, LaVine and then Randle for their own version of big 3. Bulls have been inconsistent in the last 2 seasons though, we thought that they might be a different version with the acquisition of DeRozan but it seem they have been plague with injuries.

I'm inclined if that will indeed happen because the Knicks duo is going to need another player to keep their stats working and so that the team will achieve much further than what they had in the last run plus I don't know why the New York Knicks were really silent in the draft night.

Anyway, regarding about that speculation. I've read that Zach Lavine is not interested with it, so it's a no-no.

Zach LaVine camp would be against a Knicks trade: source

Ok good, and maybe that rumor is not true at all, but who knows, there are some crazy trades that is going around.

As for the Ayton trade, yes it should be made, the guy obviously wanted out of the Phoenix Suns based on his performance and those who are critical about it. But in exchange of Tobias Harris? they are already loaded with scorers and shooters already, KD and Booker is already good for Phoenix now. They already let go of CP3, so they might at least get a good big man in exchange of Ayton and not another scorer. Bad decision for the management in this one and I think the Suns are going to be Nets 2.0.

In contrary, I've seen articles online saying that the Suns will keep Ayton: https://www.si.com/nba/2023/06/25/suns-plan-keep-deandre-ayton-despite-roster-shake-up

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Despite rumors to the contrary, the Suns do not plan on trading center Deandre Ayton, Bleacher Report’s Chris Haynes reported Sunday. Phoenix believes Ayton’s value is at an all-time high and wants to see him play alongside Devin Booker, Kevin Durant and the newly acquired Bradley Beal.

Sports Illustrated has been a reliable source of sports information IMO, so I guess we can safely say that the Suns aren't interested in trading him? Especially for Tobias Harris which is an obvious loss for them as they will give away a good center just for a forward that hasn't have that much impact in the Sixers. They will not get another good big man because they will stay with Ayton, and I think with their new coach, we might see him develop even more because we know Coach Vogel's specialty is defense.

Forget about the three team trade, or Ayton getting trade for the meantime.

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Quote from: freedomgo on June 25, 2023, 03:25:22 PM

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Not official, it could be just a rumor, but I heard that the Knicks is pursuing Zach Lavine? It says that the Bull are looking for young players and future draft picks and of course salaries as well.

So it might be Brunson, LaVine and then Randle for their own version of big 3. Bulls have been inconsistent in the last 2 seasons though, we thought that they might be a different version with the acquisition of DeRozan but it seem they have been plague with injuries.

I'm inclined if that will indeed happen because the Knicks duo is going to need another player to keep their stats working and so that the team will achieve much further than what they had in the last run plus I don't know why the New York Knicks were really silent in the draft night.

Anyway, regarding about that speculation. I've read that Zach Lavine is not interested with it, so it's a no-no.

Zach LaVine camp would be against a Knicks trade: source

Ok good, and maybe that rumor is not true at all, but who knows, there are some crazy trades that is going around.

As for the Ayton trade, yes it should be made, the guy obviously wanted out of the Phoenix Suns based on his performance and those who are critical about it. But in exchange of Tobias Harris? they are already loaded with scorers and shooters already, KD and Booker is already good for Phoenix now. They already let go of CP3, so they might at least get a good big man in exchange of Ayton and not another scorer. Bad decision for the management in this one and I think the Suns are going to be Nets 2.0.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 25, 2023, 04:22:09 PM

I don't know what is up with the Phoenix Suns lately because they kept on changing their rosters instead of keeping them intact to have a much deeper connection and bond with each other to improve their rhythm. I'd say that the Suns are so thirsty to have that chip on their franchise and having those rush decisions just because of their thirst will just lead them into another unwanted road. I mean, Tobias Harris in-exchange for Ayton? C'mon man!

They're not just comfortable with their current roster setup and they think that changing a lot will make them stable and get on a better finish this upcoming season. Honestly, I think that they should have just kept their roster and just make a few changes if it's really necessary. These set of trades and firing that they've made changed totally a lot on them, a lot of money also spent but we will never know until the season comes if they're well spent or not. Anyone looking to the Rockets that these trades should be on them to take actions? Or any rumor within the team and about the trade offers that they're getting and offering to other teams?

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Quote from: OgNasty on June 25, 2023, 02:57:03 PM

The latest DeAndre Ayton rumor is that the Suns are going to trade him in a three team deal for Tobias Harris… I think this would be a huge mistake on pretty much every level. I think Ayton has a higher ceiling, I think he meets the needs of the Suns better than Harris, and I think he’s a more valuable player right now. I hope the Suns do better than that for Ayton.

I agree. I don't think Tobias Harris will be the answer for them. They are already piling up a lot of offensive players that ain't good defensively and now they want another.
Remember what Jimmy Butler said. "Are you fu*k*ng kidding me? Tobias Harris over me?" Cheesy

3 players that I am not sure will do any better in the defensive line. Booker, Beal, and if they add him. This is going to be a bad combination and I don't think the Suns' management is thinking straight. Maybe the change in ownership has something to do with it. Mat Ishbia may like some shooting craziness rather than defense. Or is it Isiah Thomas who is influencing all of this?
I'd stick with Ayton too, now that they have a different coach, it may become better for all of them. Perhaps that's the only answer they need.
They already have some good offensive players, it's time to focus on the defensive end especially with Frank Vogel coaching them.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 25, 2023, 04:22:09 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on June 25, 2023, 02:57:03 PM

The latest DeAndre Ayton rumor is that the Suns are going to trade him in a three team deal for Tobias Harris… I think this would be a huge mistake on pretty much every level. I think Ayton has a higher ceiling, I think he meets the needs of the Suns better than Harris, and I think he’s a more valuable player right now. I hope the Suns do better than that for Ayton.

I don't know what is up with the Phoenix Suns lately because they kept on changing their rosters instead of keeping them intact to have a much deeper connection and bond with each other to improve their rhythm. I'd say that the Suns are so thirsty to have that chip on their franchise and having those rush decisions just because of their thirst will just lead them into another unwanted road. I mean, Tobias Harris in-exchange for Ayton? C'mon man!

That sounds like a rumor. Harris doesn't fit on this ylteam. Why would Suns get rid of aytun at this point. Who are they going to get to man the middle. Harris got lost behind stars in Philly, the same would happen on this team. If Suns do that it's gonna set them back, probably just a rumor.

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Quote from: OgNasty on June 25, 2023, 02:57:03 PM

The latest DeAndre Ayton rumor is that the Suns are going to trade him in a three team deal for Tobias Harris… I think this would be a huge mistake on pretty much every level. I think Ayton has a higher ceiling, I think he meets the needs of the Suns better than Harris, and I think he’s a more valuable player right now. I hope the Suns do better than that for Ayton.

I don't know what is up with the Phoenix Suns lately because they kept on changing their rosters instead of keeping them intact to have a much deeper connection and bond with each other to improve their rhythm. I'd say that the Suns are so thirsty to have that chip on their franchise and having those rush decisions just because of their thirst will just lead them into another unwanted road. I mean, Tobias Harris in-exchange for Ayton? C'mon man!

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Quote from: Japinat on June 25, 2023, 03:36:38 PM

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CP3 on the other hand won't have any issues with Steph. I've seen them before talking in a video call and all respect from both players too. What's done on the basketball court will stay there. And we all know how down-to-earth Steph is. He ain't the fighting guy and hating people.
I am going to wait where Draymond ends up and I wish it will be a different team. He should try the Wizards. Cheesy

Draymond and Klay both want max contracts and there is no way the Warriors can pay both of them. I think Draymond stays and Klay gets traded. Makes more sense with Poole being traded away. I can't say that's what going to happen for sure, but that's the feeling I have.

Draymond Green is already in the free agency after he declined that $27 Million player option for the 23-24 season and I don't think that he's still inclined to go back to the Warriors if they cannot come up with anything that somehow near Draymond's demands. As for Klay Thompson, the Warriors still have one more season to decide what is the greater good for the team and if Klay will have another bad season then I think it's safe to assume that he will not be handed with a max contract.

Klay really needs to rethink his demands as it's obvious the Warriors will opt to go for Draymond Green's max contract compared to his. He's been below average the past season and it's really not worth it to pay him that much considering that Green can potentially put in more numbers and more work for the team and get them closer to another ring. Green is not in his best form, and he should recognize that himself.

As for Draymond, a lot of teams can still pick him up, although I'm pretty sure the Warriors are really wanting to keep him on their side of the fence as they knew that this man's playstyle suits the team so well.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on June 25, 2023, 03:58:15 AM

Quote from: danherbias07 on June 25, 2023, 02:25:33 AM

CP3 on the other hand won't have any issues with Steph. I've seen them before talking in a video call and all respect from both players too. What's done on the basketball court will stay there. And we all know how down-to-earth Steph is. He ain't the fighting guy and hating people.
I am going to wait where Draymond ends up and I wish it will be a different team. He should try the Wizards. Cheesy

Draymond and Klay both want max contracts and there is no way the Warriors can pay both of them. I think Draymond stays and Klay gets traded. Makes more sense with Poole being traded away. I can't say that's what going to happen for sure, but that's the feeling I have.

Draymond Green is already in the free agency after he declined that $27 Million player option for the 23-24 season and I don't think that he's still inclined to go back to the Warriors if they cannot come up with anything that somehow near Draymond's demands. As for Klay Thompson, the Warriors still have one more season to decide what is the greater good for the team and if Klay will have another bad season then I think it's safe to assume that he will not be handed with a max contract.

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Quote from: Jating on June 25, 2023, 03:47:55 AM

Not official, it could be just a rumor, but I heard that the Knicks is pursuing Zach Lavine? It says that the Bull are looking for young players and future draft picks and of course salaries as well.

So it might be Brunson, LaVine and then Randle for their own version of big 3. Bulls have been inconsistent in the last 2 seasons though, we thought that they might be a different version with the acquisition of DeRozan but it seem they have been plague with injuries.

I'm inclined if that will indeed happen because the Knicks duo is going to need another player to keep their stats working and so that the team will achieve much further than what they had in the last run plus I don't know why the New York Knicks were really silent in the draft night.

Anyway, regarding about that speculation. I've read that Zach Lavine is not interested with it, so it's a no-no.

Zach LaVine camp would be against a Knicks trade: source

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Quote from: el kaka22 on June 25, 2023, 12:15:49 PM

There is no way Klay would get traded, he is still a great defender even after the injury, I assumed that he would not be a great defender after the injury because usually the lateral movement gets limited after such injury but he is great and he can still shoot amazingly well. He played with 41% from three with 21 points which is definitely a good sign for him.

However, Draymond green is not "that" guy anymore, he is still good and all in a sense, but he is a 30% three point shooter, not terrible but not good enough, just 0.5 threes per game, 7 rebounds 7 assists 8 points type of guy. Yes, he is a floor general and knows their game, but he is not a max contract guy, that's way too much. Warriors do not print money, they are not the FED, they can't do that.

It is unlikely that Klay will be traded. Some years ago before the Warriors transferred to their new homecourt, the management made it clear that the Splash brothers will be with them for the rest of their careers. I cannot confirm if this was executed successfully but Steph was supposed to get a stake in GSW ownership along with Klay. Although it is still possible for Klay to be transferred but it also involves selling his stocks to avoid a conflict of interest.

Draymond has declined a lot. But somehow GSW still finds him useful over Poole, probably for the chemistry of the team? Draymond's demands a laughable but it's a bluff and he is just trying to squeeze money as much as possible. The Warriors however cannot stay too comfortable with re-signing Green because some teams are interested to sign him with a better contract than his previous one.

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The latest DeAndre Ayton rumor is that the Suns are going to trade him in a three team deal for Tobias Harris… I think this would be a huge mistake on pretty much every level. I think Ayton has a higher ceiling, I think he meets the needs of the Suns better than Harris, and I think he’s a more valuable player right now. I hope the Suns do better than that for Ayton.

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He has already declined an offer and I think if he'll negotiate with that, he have already done but he's probably going somewhere else and that's what his heart is telling him.

But for sure that the Warriors are open for him to comeback and alter his decision about the decline that he has made.

He had a wish and his thoughts were different from everyone's expectations so turning down the offer was his heart's decision.
After all, accepting an offer in a team when he has no intention or compulsorily accepting will also never give good results in the future.
There may be other options but we don't know which one he will choose later.

Yes, the Warriors are always open for him to come back at any time and this is a tough decision whether to return for the Warriors or follow his heart.

It's a tough decision for him.

But, we all know what's in it for him already and we just have to wait for further news regarding his signing/declining of contract. Whether it'll be again with the Warriors which he had already declined it.

Or, whether it's with a new team that he wants to get signed then his fans will just have to continue supporting him. Just like Poole that had been traded, he just had to bear with the reality or it should be everyone.

Nothing is certain inside NBA. We don't know if he will receive another offer to play back after he grants his option, time
for him to re-negotiate and see if what are his other options are .

Green knows how to play and he will use everything to enjoy his option. I really love seeing him still with the splash
bro, that strong bonds between them are already established, we all know the communication is very important
and with them alongside the court, they all know where to go and where to find each other, something that I can say
that the management will also look upon.

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And it's starting to heat up. Draymond Green honestly said he doesn't like CP3 although he respects his hustle and his IQ. Is he going to be the next Jordan Poole that would be punched in the face? Grin

Just kidding.

If that's true, I suppose Green doesn't like Paul because Green's value on the court will be much lower. I mean, Green averaged 6.8 assists per game last season, and that's not bad for a power forward. However, if Green stays with the Warriors next season, his assists per game will be significantly lower since assists are primarily Paul's prerogative.
That's just my guess, and I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that there's just some personal animosity between Green and Paul.

Yeah that's kind of a questionable comment. To publicly state things like this about your teammates is pretty bad. Sounds like green doesn't like sharing the stage with anyone besides klay and steph. Cp3 would be great for draymond. Would put him in great situations on the court, cp3 knows how to exploit mismatches. Maybe green should be the odd one out here.

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Quote from: tusandii on June 24, 2023, 08:56:35 AM

Quote from: livingfree on June 24, 2023, 07:29:06 AM

He has already declined an offer and I think if he'll negotiate with that, he have already done but he's probably going somewhere else and that's what his heart is telling him.

But for sure that the Warriors are open for him to comeback and alter his decision about the decline that he has made.

He had a wish and his thoughts were different from everyone's expectations so turning down the offer was his heart's decision.
After all, accepting an offer in a team when he has no intention or compulsorily accepting will also never give good results in the future.
There may be other options but we don't know which one he will choose later.

Yes, the Warriors are always open for him to come back at any time and this is a tough decision whether to return for the Warriors or follow his heart.

It's a tough decision for him.

But, we all know what's in it for him already and we just have to wait for further news regarding his signing/declining of contract. Whether it'll be again with the Warriors which he had already declined it.

Or, whether it's with a new team that he wants to get signed then his fans will just have to continue supporting him. Just like Poole that had been traded, he just had to bear with the reality or it should be everyone.

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Victor Wembanyama is lauded, but will he really be okay? Most of the tall players drafted in recent years have disappeared, except for 2-3. It's interesting that a French Power Forward was undoubtedly picked first in the draft, I call it the Doncic and Jokic factor. If they had not been so successful, we would not have seen the first pick tall European to be chosen. It will be good for the player that he goes to the Spurs. The organization that shines International players best may be Spurs. Let's see what he will do in the rookie season.

Yeah, and a very respectful coach, Pops. I think Wemby will learn a lot from him. Maybe he will mature faster that way.

If Wemby wants to understand and study it well that's great but are you sure he can do all that because it seems like his ego is quite high.
But if Wemby really learns everything he can be even better in the future and this will help him build his character.
I fully support that.

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Quote from: mirakal on June 25, 2023, 11:33:41 AM

Quote from: tusandii on June 24, 2023, 08:56:35 AM

Quote from: livingfree on June 24, 2023, 07:29:06 AM

He has already declined an offer and I think if he'll negotiate with that, he have already done but he's probably going somewhere else and that's what his heart is telling him.

But for sure that the Warriors are open for him to comeback and alter his decision about the decline that he has made.

He had a wish and his thoughts were different from everyone's expectations so turning down the offer was his heart's decision.
After all, accepting an offer in a team when he has no intention or compulsorily accepting will also never give good results in the future.
There may be other options but we don't know which one he will choose later.

Yes, the Warriors are always open for him to come back at any time and this is a tough decision whether to return for the Warriors or follow his heart.

But I don't think that the Warriors will give him the same digits though if Draymond Green wishes to come back and wear the same jersey because after all, NBA is a business, and the franchise will always look for an option so that somehow, they can save even a bit from their player's contracts. As of now, there are no speculations about Green's future plans like whether he'll be back or not but I'm thinking that his agent might've talked to some teams already that could give them what they wanted.

That's possible. While waiting for any offer or while negotiating to any possible offer from the Warriors, it might also be possible
that his agent is now trying to find an alternative in case Warriors will not provide what they wanted.

He might be part of the core, but there's also a side of it where it's more on business. It can't be denied that if Warriors will not provide
the demands after opting out his contract, he might be traded or he might sign to other teams.

Let's wait for any update regarding to him and to which team he might play and sign an offer.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on June 25, 2023, 02:25:33 AM

And it's starting to heat up. Draymond Green honestly said he doesn't like CP3 although he respects his hustle and his IQ. Is he going to be the next Jordan Poole that would be punched in the face? Grin

Just kidding.

If that's true, I suppose Green doesn't like Paul because Green's value on the court will be much lower. I mean, Green averaged 6.8 assists per game last season, and that's not bad for a power forward. However, if Green stays with the Warriors next season, his assists per game will be significantly lower since assists are primarily Paul's prerogative.
That's just my guess, and I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that there's just some personal animosity between Green and Paul.

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