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Quote from: Sims25 on June 21, 2023, 10:43:32 PM

Wemby is happy to be going to SA. He's the perfect fit for that organization.

Can't say that until he's done at least 1 season with San Antonio, I hope he'll live up to the hype, I have nothing against him. I also hope the Spurs would build a team around him for them to become relevant again in the playoffs.

On the other hand, the Boston Celtics are finalizing the deal to get Kristaps Porzingis for Marcus Smart. I don't know but I think Porzingis will be a great piece for the Boston Celtics success. The guy averaged 20+ ppg and 8+ rebounds per game, and he can also shoot from deep. Well, I hope they'll make it to the finals next year.

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I guess saw this on my twitter feed,

https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1671737877837824001

So perhaps Celtics will have to find another defensive player, or at least 2 way player for that matter. And Smart could be the replacement for Dillon Brooks. Hopefully he can be a good mentor to Ja Morant Grin

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Edit:
Celtics receive: Kristaps Porziņģis, 2023 & 2024 first-round pick

Grizzlies receive: Marcus Smart

Wizards receive: Tyus Jones, 2023 second-round pick

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Wemby is happy to be going to SA. He's the perfect fit for that organization.

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Quote from: Yogee on June 21, 2023, 09:47:38 AM

Quote from: Kelvinid on June 21, 2023, 02:48:43 AM

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What we are discussing here are only possibilities based on what we have seen in the past.

I agree and this further validates the argument that he'll most likely get injured since we've already seen it before. One could argue that he's different or special but these tall and skinny players can't just change their bodies or built in an instant - using a legal and normal method. I don't think he'll be a complete bust but he'll be lucky to stay in the league for 5 years without major or career ending injuries.

Yes, we will have to see, but for sure whoever teams drafted him, they will have to look at his body and how they are going to improved him. If he wanted to be like Durant, then maybe just enough in his lower body and some in his chest. And it should be legal and natural method, although we haven't hard any PED scandal in the NBA.

He is tall but doesn't play center per se, so that will be another big adjustment for him. So let's see how it goes, we don't have to see a rookie that is going to be bust and as hype as Vic today.

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Quote from: Kasabus on June 21, 2023, 08:20:49 AM

Well, what can I say, I'm just glad that this kid, Victor Wembanyama, has fallen into coach Pop's hands and not the other teams. Don't take it wrong, it's not meant to underestimate them but knowing how experienced coach Pop is, this kid will surely learn a lot from him especially now that he will start his rookie season when the next season will commence and we know how important this season is to the newly drafted players.

There are rumors that the Spurs want to offer Coach Pop a contract for three more seasons. Honestly, I was surprised to hear that since Pop is 74 years old. As for Victor Wembanyama, I agree that he's definitely lucky to have Pop as his first NBA coach. However, I have some doubts about Victor. He's certainly a talented kid and has a lot of potential, but he only weighs 230 pounds and looks too skinny for his height. I mean, Victor's low weight and intense schedule in the NBA might be the reason why his body could become injury prone.

I'm skeptical of all nba players over 7 foot. The rigors and athleticism requires hard cuts and a low center of balance. Too easy to get injured. There have certainly been successful 7 footers but 7 foot 5 I just think the same way. He might be a great talent but if longevity isn't in the cards then it's not worth the hype. I am willing to admit I was wrong 15 years from now but that just seems too tall to stay on the court for any length of time.

He might be a different cut though, so let's give the kid the benefit of the doubt for now. Yes, we have seen 7'2++ in the NBA some of them play good, some of them was forgotten.

But just like the rest of you, this kid needs to gain weight, slowly, doesn't have to be like a year, but his trainer should really now how to build his body to be able to play the physical and hard grind of the NBA. And he is lucky if the Spurs are going to draft them, as they have history of developing players like Kawhi and others in the early 2000's. So definitely they have the right program for Vic.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on June 21, 2023, 05:47:32 PM

Wemby has Durant body, and I know he is a bit taller but that's who he is going to be like. Dude is 7+ feet tall, and he can dribble the ball and shoot very well, that's a big skill to have. When you are that tall and can shoot whenever you want from wherever you want, not that many defenders can stop you. Hence, the best thing to do would be focusing on other skills at that point. He is not that great defensively, he certainly can't body anyone up, he is too skinny to be an inside defender, he can chase blocks if he wants to, but if anyone posts him up, he is not going to be able to stop them. This doesn't have to include gaining weight, Durant is still skinny, but he learned how to guard the post perfectly, he can do the same, whatever he does.

I also heard that words when people are hyped about Chet Holmgren last year. What happened to him? Summer league he got injured, and didn't play the whole season.
I'm not saying that Wembanyama will be the same as Holmgren because obviously they are different, but their body frames are almost the same.

He can dribble? Yes. He can shoot? Yes. The question is his health all throughout the whole season. Like you said, he is skinny to be a center, so if you're Coach Pop, where will you put him then? His trainer don't want to add weight on him as well because it might affect his playstyle like he said in one interview. I like the hype because it's what always the NBA is doing days or months before the draft night, but I don't expect too much about Wembanyama TBH.

His health is my main concern. How can he defend the paint if he's that skinny, and if they don't want him to be in the Center position then where? Point guard? Shooting Guard? Most probably he will be in the Center position, and with that body frame, I don't think that he can put a body on players like Embiid, or Giannis etc.

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Wemby has Durant body, and I know he is a bit taller but that's who he is going to be like. Dude is 7+ feet tall, and he can dribble the ball and shoot very well, that's a big skill to have. When you are that tall and can shoot whenever you want from wherever you want, not that many defenders can stop you. Hence, the best thing to do would be focusing on other skills at that point. He is not that great defensively, he certainly can't body anyone up, he is too skinny to be an inside defender, he can chase blocks if he wants to, but if anyone posts him up, he is not going to be able to stop them. This doesn't have to include gaining weight, Durant is still skinny, but he learned how to guard the post perfectly, he can do the same, whatever he does.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on June 21, 2023, 04:36:08 AM

Quote from: danherbias07 on June 21, 2023, 03:29:47 AM

Actually, I already placed my bet for whom will be number 1, 2, and 3.
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Sorry it was positioned wrong, the first pick is on the last. Cheesy

Seriously, are you still considering placing a bet on the first pick odds, which are only 1.01? I believe that may not be profitable unless you wager a significant amount. While it's evident that Wemby is going to be the number 1 pick with such odds, the question remains: is it worth placing a bet?

It's a sure win, why not? It's worth it if you are placing high numbers. Grin

And I am not going to waste money putting Scoot in the first pick, that's suicide.

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on June 21, 2023, 05:04:14 AM

Miller might be the player they need but Scoot Henderson has SO MUCH upside, I think they will take him anyway.
Of course it doesn't make sense since they have Melo and everything but if there wasn't Wemby, Scoot would be the clear frontrunner for the 1st pick, he ist just so talented.

Maybe they draft him and then get him on the market. A lot of teams will be interested in him. Maybe they even trade the pick, who knows. In the NBA anything can happen. A lot of teams are trying to climb up the draft latter so there might be some serious movement around draft picks real soon.

Yeah, there's that rumor that Charlotte could also get Scoot Henderson if they want to and pair him with LaMelo, or like you said, put him in the market for a trade. I just don't know if that is allowable after the drafts. I think it is. That will be a large upper hand for the Hornets because many teams now are looking for a point guard with whom they will surround their players.

Quote from: OgNasty on June 20, 2023, 11:53:38 PM

I think Wemby is going to be a bust. He’s just too tall and too young to have the strength he needs to play in the NBA. I think he’s likely to get injured long before he’s established the type of body he will need to compete in the key. I think he’s going to be bullied pretty badly and get hurt. Likely he won’t see much playing time for a while as a result.

Gobert? or Wiseman? I don't know why, but I see a James Wiseman body figure on him. Not Chet nor Gobert. I don't to speculate on that matter yet because I've seen some tenacity in the young guy. But, I don't want to be dragged by his hype also just like Zion Williamson, and then let us down with consecutive injuries. We will see once he plays.
Big men are dominating now, (Jokic, Giannis, Embiid, AD, Ayton,) he will be a part of it if ever he showed he is really meant to be in the NBA.

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Quote from: Yogee on June 21, 2023, 09:47:38 AM

Quote from: Kelvinid on June 21, 2023, 02:48:43 AM

[.....]
What we are discussing here are only possibilities based on what we have seen in the past.

I agree and this further validates the argument that he'll most likely get injured since we've already seen it before. One could argue that he's different or special but these tall and skinny players can't just change their bodies or built in an instant - using a legal and normal method. I don't think he'll be a complete bust but he'll be lucky to stay in the league for 5 years without major or career ending injuries.

We can't conclude that, though with how the technology is helping humans, it might be possible.

Though basing it from the past where we witness a tall guy, we got injured, just like what happened with Chet Holmgren
the good thing that he's now ready to be back and we might see his impact now playing alongside with SGA, hopefully
Victor won't suffer like that in the early season, same as Banchero. I want to see him playing, showing that he deserves
his spot.

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Quote from: Kasabus on June 21, 2023, 08:20:49 AM

Well, what can I say, I'm just glad that this kid, Victor Wembanyama, has fallen into coach Pop's hands and not the other teams. Don't take it wrong, it's not meant to underestimate them but knowing how experienced coach Pop is, this kid will surely learn a lot from him especially now that he will start his rookie season when the next season will commence and we know how important this season is to the newly drafted players.

There are rumors that the Spurs want to offer Coach Pop a contract for three more seasons. Honestly, I was surprised to hear that since Pop is 74 years old. As for Victor Wembanyama, I agree that he's definitely lucky to have Pop as his first NBA coach. However, I have some doubts about Victor. He's certainly a talented kid and has a lot of potential, but he only weighs 230 pounds and looks too skinny for his height. I mean, Victor's low weight and intense schedule in the NBA might be the reason why his body could become injury prone.

I'm skeptical of all nba players over 7 foot. The rigors and athleticism requires hard cuts and a low center of balance. Too easy to get injured. There have certainly been successful 7 footers but 7 foot 5 I just think the same way. He might be a great talent but if longevity isn't in the cards then it's not worth the hype. I am willing to admit I was wrong 15 years from now but that just seems too tall to stay on the court for any length of time.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on June 21, 2023, 12:52:21 PM

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That is the expectation of everyone but as Og said, there can be some unexpected things that we may see but I am not hoping for it. I'm wishing all the best to him and the Spurs.
We can imagine how this rookie will be guarded by veterans as he picks and signs himself to a good team. Gregg surely has planned this all along and we might see another player that will stay with his first-pick team until his retirement. What a such good team and what I can see from the crowd's reaction of Wemby being taken as first pick by the Spurs is like there's just much excitement on it and everyone is waiting to see him play, as soon as possible.

Hopefully everything will go accordingly and like what you said, the crowd is waiting for him to bring back the excitement chances
that Spurs management is already working behind while waiting for the finalization of his contract.

I mean, coach Pop might have a bigger plan for this young superstar. We all know that they are not in the good state but acquiring
Wemby might give them a good run this upcoming season.

But still depends on how the management will pair him with what he needs to make a competitive run.

Well surely he is and that's why the media is all over him and the preps are also there. I just hope that these excitements that everyone is feeling won't turn into disappointment inside the court or if there will be a quick injury. I remember the same excitement as what people had with Chet Holmgren last year but it turned out that he's out entirely because of the injury that he's got. Both are skinny but with a height so, we will see them clash soon.

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Quote from: Kasabus on June 21, 2023, 08:20:49 AM

Well, what can I say, I'm just glad that this kid, Victor Wembanyama, has fallen into coach Pop's hands and not the other teams. Don't take it wrong, it's not meant to underestimate them but knowing how experienced coach Pop is, this kid will surely learn a lot from him especially now that he will start his rookie season when the next season will commence and we know how important this season is to the newly drafted players.

There are rumors that the Spurs want to offer Coach Pop a contract for three more seasons. Honestly, I was surprised to hear that since Pop is 74 years old. As for Victor Wembanyama, I agree that he's definitely lucky to have Pop as his first NBA coach. However, I have some doubts about Victor. He's certainly a talented kid and has a lot of potential, but he only weighs 230 pounds and looks too skinny for his height. I mean, Victor's low weight and intense schedule in the NBA might be the reason why his body could become injury prone.

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Quote from: FanEagle on June 21, 2023, 10:35:29 AM

Considering the team Wemby is coming from is basically Tony Parkers, we could easily say that he was always getting good things heard about Spurs all his life, I mean him going to where his teams owner played as a legend makes sense in the same logic as well. Only thing better than this would have been a first round pick that grew up in San Antonio all his life. All in all I bet that Spurs will be a playoff team right in a season as soon as they get him.

That is the expectation of everyone but as Og said, there can be some unexpected things that we may see but I am not hoping for it. I'm wishing all the best to him and the Spurs.
We can imagine how this rookie will be guarded by veterans as he picks and signs himself to a good team. Gregg surely has planned this all along and we might see another player that will stay with his first-pick team until his retirement. What a such good team and what I can see from the crowd's reaction of Wemby being taken as first pick by the Spurs is like there's just much excitement on it and everyone is waiting to see him play, as soon as possible.

Hopefully everything will go accordingly and like what you said, the crowd is waiting for him to bring back the excitement chances
that Spurs management is already working behind while waiting for the finalization of his contract.

I mean, coach Pop might have a bigger plan for this young superstar. We all know that they are not in the good state but acquiring
Wemby might give them a good run this upcoming season.

But still depends on how the management will pair him with what he needs to make a competitive run.

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Quote from: FanEagle on June 21, 2023, 10:35:29 AM

Considering the team Wemby is coming from is basically Tony Parkers, we could easily say that he was always getting good things heard about Spurs all his life, I mean him going to where his teams owner played as a legend makes sense in the same logic as well. Only thing better than this would have been a first round pick that grew up in San Antonio all his life. All in all I bet that Spurs will be a playoff team right in a season as soon as they get him.

That is the expectation of everyone but as Og said, there can be some unexpected things that we may see but I am not hoping for it. I'm wishing all the best to him and the Spurs.
We can imagine how this rookie will be guarded by veterans as he picks and signs himself to a good team. Gregg surely has planned this all along and we might see another player that will stay with his first-pick team until his retirement. What a such good team and what I can see from the crowd's reaction of Wemby being taken as first pick by the Spurs is like there's just much excitement on it and everyone is waiting to see him play, as soon as possible.

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Wemby going to Spurs was a lot more like 2003 Lebron deal, he was from Akron Ohio, and he was picked by Cavs at the first place, so it made sense in that regard and a lot of people questioned if it was a bribery deal or not, I mean him being from Cleveland and going there does feel like it was a match made in heaven.

Considering the team Wemby is coming from is basically Tony Parkers, we could easily say that he was always getting good things heard about Spurs all his life, I mean him going to where his teams owner played as a legend makes sense in the same logic as well. Only thing better than this would have been a first round pick that grew up in San Antonio all his life. All in all I bet that Spurs will be a playoff team right in a season as soon as they get him.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on June 21, 2023, 02:48:43 AM

[.....]
What we are discussing here are only possibilities based on what we have seen in the past.

I agree and this further validates the argument that he'll most likely get injured since we've already seen it before. One could argue that he's different or special but these tall and skinny players can't just change their bodies or built in an instant - using a legal and normal method. I don't think he'll be a complete bust but he'll be lucky to stay in the league for 5 years without major or career ending injuries.

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Quote from: OgNasty on June 20, 2023, 11:53:38 PM

Quote from: blockman on June 20, 2023, 05:52:14 PM

Wemby is truly the greatest prospect on this draft and you might also be right that he could be next to Lebron. But we don't know yet what's gonna be the run of his career until we see him play. There is no doubt that the Spurs have secured him already and I'm excited to see who's gonna picked regardless of the no. they'll get and on what round they'll be picked. So after the easy NBA finals that we've watched, this is always the next big thing NBA fans are waiting for.

I think Wemby is going to be a bust. He’s just too tall and too young to have the strength he needs to play in the NBA. I think he’s likely to get injured long before he’s established the type of body he will need to compete in the key. I think he’s going to be bullied pretty badly and get hurt. Likely he won’t see much playing time for a while as a result.

We'll see that but I guess the Spurs have already got plans for that so that he'll get some muscles and buff for his body. It can still be a working in progress but it seems that everyone is hyped on him. We know that everything's gonna be changed when he's already stepped into the league.
It won't be the same as the leagues that he's played before. He's still young and I am sure that some veterans would likely challenge him inside the court and hoping he won't be injured and won't be ending up like Greg Oden.

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Quote from: Vaculin on June 21, 2023, 03:01:53 AM

We never know for sure, he might be one of those players that are born superstar as we know that they are just too rare. But before he can achieve that feat and be one of the most dominant players in the league, he sure needed some experience first because no matter how good he is right now, NBA is just too different from any other leagues in the world plus the players within are just too great too handle as they too have their own talent to showcase.

We all know multiple stories about failed rookies who they thought will gonna be big stars in the NBA after they get drafted but the problem is when they start playing they changed and they can't handle the pressure some of them remained a common players until now without even get the chance to win a championship. now Victor Wembanyama needs to take some measures when he will gonna play for the first time because the players will go to put pressure on him but the kid might not gonna get scared and will gonna play chill like Luka. Can't wait to see him play for the Spurs and win multiple championships with them.

Wembanyama's career in the NBA maybe it's a tough for him but we are all know that who is he inside the court so we can not say that he can't be a super star because what he show to us before he draft in NBA is very amazing. And good he is a top scorer which is he can still do that in NBA if he gonna adopt the scene everyday he encounter. and I know his journey will be successful.

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Quote from: Vaculin on June 21, 2023, 03:01:53 AM

We never know for sure, he might be one of those players that are born superstar as we know that they are just too rare. But before he can achieve that feat and be one of the most dominant players in the league, he sure needed some experience first because no matter how good he is right now, NBA is just too different from any other leagues in the world plus the players within are just too great too handle as they too have their own talent to showcase.

We all know multiple stories about failed rookies who they thought will gonna be big stars in the NBA after they get drafted but the problem is when they start playing they changed and they can't handle the pressure some of them remained a common players until now without even get the chance to win a championship. now Victor Wembanyama needs to take some measures when he will gonna play for the first time because the players will go to put pressure on him but the kid might not gonna get scared and will gonna play chill like Luka. Can't wait to see him play for the Spurs and win multiple championships with them.

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Quote from: Natalim on June 21, 2023, 07:18:06 AM

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But still its good to watch how this prospected number one pick will perform since many expect that he can dominate NBA since he is called as generational talent.

He won't be playing as the center, I guess, as that would most likely increase his chances of getting injured. Wemby will be the number 1, and I'm certain that the team, the Spurs, will prioritize his protection. Considering how Coach Pop nurtures his players, I expect Wemby to become one of the greatest players in the NBA in the future given his gift, you know he is a number 1 pick for a reason.

Given his versatility on the court, he is best suited to play as a forward. You can see his stats here: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wembavi01.html
Based on what is written as his position, he is listed as a Center/Forward, but I believe he has primarily played in the forward positions in most games.

While his numbers may not be overly impressive, being a talented big man, it's certain that teams will pursue him. That's exactly what happened with the Spurs, who were able to secure the number 1 pick.

Well, what can I say, I'm just glad that this kid, Victor Wembanyama, has fallen into coach Pop's hands and not the other teams. Don't take it wrong, it's not meant to underestimate them but knowing how experienced coach Pop is, this kid will surely learn a lot from him especially now that he will start his rookie season when the next season will commence and we know how important this season is to the newly drafted players.

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