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June 13, 2023, 02:00:05 PM
Dude, I really like KCP.

He's been traded after winning the title with Lakers and now he's with the Denver Nuggets. I hope that he won't be traded again and he's good to stay with his team. They've got a chemistry and he's always there when he's needed on those important minutes of the game.

The Nuggets' management will make a big mistake if they don't keep their current roster for at least one more season. As for KCP, he's under contract with the Nuggets until the end of the 24/25 season. So I wouldn't worry about him because he will most likely be with the Nuggets.
Anyway, the season is officially over, and now it's offseason time. I even wonder if there will be any major trades between other teams this summer or not.

The one challenge Denver has is to make the squad deeper. This year they enjoyed perfect playoff health. While Jokic is a rock, players like MPJ or Murray have a less than perfect availability record, Uncle Jeff might as well slip just enough to become unplayable. They did a great job finding Braun in the draft, not too many rookies can credibly hold their own in the finals. As returning champions with a relatively young squad they might be able to snag a couple ring-chasing vets for the minimum.



I was one of those people who thought Denver couldn't win, and yes Jokic did deserved the MVP but I assumed it wasn't "that" obvious, I thought it was close enough to just let it be. But after watching the lakers series and the finals full game, I can easily say that he could be one of the best players of right now, I still put Giannis there too because I really enjoy him playing but Jokic has an unstoppable mechanism and playstyle, it is really near impossible to find a way to defend that, don't know how other teams could end up doing it.

I would guess that you need to have 2 players that can guard Jokic and the guard that plays with him at that moment, and usually people who can guard Jokic are very rare, and you need two of them, so you can switch.

The Lakers showed an interesting approach - put one big on him (Hachimura) and have another shotblocker on the court to challenge him at the basket (AD). While this lead to some turnovers, next time Jokic might be better prepared to kick it out to shooters. Also not many teams have an AD-level defender.
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June 13, 2023, 01:30:33 PM
I was one of those people who thought Denver couldn't win, and yes Jokic did deserved the MVP but I assumed it wasn't "that" obvious, I thought it was close enough to just let it be. But after watching the lakers series and the finals full game, I can easily say that he could be one of the best players of right now, I still put Giannis there too because I really enjoy him playing but Jokic has an unstoppable mechanism and playstyle, it is really near impossible to find a way to defend that, don't know how other teams could end up doing it.

I would guess that you need to have 2 players that can guard Jokic and the guard that plays with him at that moment, and usually people who can guard Jokic are very rare, and you need two of them, so you can switch.
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June 13, 2023, 01:05:32 PM
Glad that the season is over.


Yes this season doesnt have the spicy we needed in NBA. i hope next season we can see some more show and great games.
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June 13, 2023, 12:41:40 PM
Dude, I really like KCP.

He's been traded after winning the title with Lakers and now he's with the Denver Nuggets. I hope that he won't be traded again and he's good to stay with his team. They've got a chemistry and he's always there when he's needed on those important minutes of the game.

The Nuggets' management will make a big mistake if they don't keep their current roster for at least one more season. As for KCP, he's under contract with the Nuggets until the end of the 24/25 season. So I wouldn't worry about him because he will most likely be with the Nuggets.
Anyway, the season is officially over, and now it's offseason time. I even wonder if there will be any major trades between other teams this summer or not.
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June 13, 2023, 12:37:33 PM
without many surprises, the Nuggets won the heat and became champions, I say without many surprises because at the moment there was a scenario of 3 wins for the Nuggets against 1 win for the heat, it was already expected that the Nuggets would become champions even because the Nuggets had a better performance in relation to its opponent, in this last game the heat in the first period started well and ended well with a very tight victory, and the difference in points was only 2 points, and in the following period the heat improved even more when they won the second period by a difference of 5 points, which already gave more hope to the team

but things started to go wrong for the heat in the second period, in the second period the heat lost by a difference of 6 points which put more negative pressure on the team that entered the fourth period and could not reverse the superiority of its opponent and lost in the fourth quarter and in the game itself, a defeat that allowed their opponent to make history by winning the nba for the first time. strange that this was a game of few points, neither team managed to score more than 100 points in this game, which reveals that both teams were playing with greater focus on defense. congrats to Nuggets
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June 13, 2023, 12:32:00 PM
Glad that the season is over.

The finals have been good but nothing to get excited about. It was just too easy, even though Miami gave Denver kind of a good fight, not enough though.
But now is offseason time, and this will be more interesting. There are some notable free agents this summer and the movement will start soon.

On July 1st free agents can sign new contracts, so we have around 2 weeks until then. The first bigger moves might happen shortly before the NBA draft since some teams are trying to move up the latter so get some prospects they want.

Just saw the the Pelicans are trying to get up some spots to maybe get Scoot Henderson. For this I think they must get the number 2 draft pick somehow since in many mock drafts he will be selected right behind Wembanyama.
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June 13, 2023, 12:03:02 PM
Nuggets in 5! That was my original thought. Nuggets finished all series in their conference pretty fast. The expectation was Bucks, Celtics or Sixers playing in the Finals but Heat made one of the biggest surprises in history. They could only win one game though. If other teams had been here we might watch a longer series. That doesn't matter anymore. Nuggets got the well deserved first title.

It's certainly a debatable especially that line where you said that "if other teams had been here, we might watch a longer series" I mean, really? Wasn't it enough that the Miami Heat defeated those favorites that you've mentioned and literally dominated them in almost every game to the point that they almost got swept. They might have been a surprise in the league but they surely deserved to face the Nuggets even though they failed in the last phase.
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June 13, 2023, 11:53:57 AM
Nuggets ended the finals and Jokic won the NBA finals. What a journey for a piece of history in the making that has been made by this big guy who likes chicken nuggets that eventually became the face of the Nuggets franchise. LOL.
Those who have bet for the game 5 to end with Nuggets are surely enjoying but I've got a lot of friends dismay on this ending because many of them thought that Miami got this, still props to them.

What a journey for the best big man of this season and there's no doubt he truly deserves it also his teammates help him a lot to achieve this great goal of their life as NBA players. Thankfully the Finals MVP is no other than Jokic. After he constantly brings his team to playoffs it finally pays off well and also this time his best buddy is playing Jamal Murray. They played well and deserves this championship without recruiting some star players nor did they go to the championship teams that won multiple championships in the past. they trust each other and eventually earn their best reward ever.

Truly a big achievement of his career since he won a lot of trophy and sealed his legacy this season. A big kodus also to his teammates which do their job and perform very well without thinking about padding their stats in finals especially on Murray this is really a big win and they erase their finals drought for 47 years since there franchise created and now Nuggets has been erased to the list of the teams which didn't win a championship.

It is indeed but it's just so funny to me how Jokic answered some few questions from the interview right after the game because it so looks like he is not that delighted for what happened and for him it's just another day having a victory and said, goal was delivered and it's not time for me to go home. Grin

Anyway, looking at the Nuggets cores, they are still so young and that gives me some creeps because they will be dominating the league for more years to come or at least give a hard time for those who want to claim their title. Congrats again to the Denver Nuggets, finally!
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June 13, 2023, 11:45:21 AM
I really wish the Finals should have been longer but it is what it is. Still mad respect to the Heat organization for an amazing run.

Yup, that’s how pretty much everyone I’ve talked to about it feels. Denver deserved the win and I think we’re witnessing the birth of a new dynasty as they’re all still young enough to get 2 or 3 more titles if they can stay healthy and together. This was the ending that was to be expected and hopefully the regular season comes back fast!
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June 13, 2023, 11:40:22 AM
I also quite like KCP because the way he plays, in my opinion, often gives unexpected surprises that makes opposing players a little confused about taking action.

KCP is a good role player because he has matured and has a strong desire to win games. He also knows how to play defense, making his minutes on the floor highly productive, even if he struggles with his shooting at times. The Nuggets were fortunate to have him. If the Lakers had not traded him, he might have been able to contribute to their campaign last season.

He might able to do it but the question will be the same about the Lakers facing the Nuggets, do they have what it takes? I think not. By the way, I almost forgot about Thomas Bryant because since he forced a trade and played in the Nuggets, his playtime became less and less especially in the post season but it seems that he had the right choice because he is now a champion although his presence wasn't the one that helped the team as the Nuggets core can already handle almost all teams in the league.
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June 13, 2023, 10:14:01 AM
I really wish the Finals should have been longer but it is what it is. Still mad respect to the Heat organization for an amazing run.

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I hope to see him healthy all the time.
Not all the time but definitely most of the time. I think he's going to be one of those elites who will have a long career because of how he plays the game. Not like those fancy and high flying players. Maybe someone like Tim Duncan if he can keep his weight in check.
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June 13, 2023, 09:17:59 AM
I also quite like KCP because the way he plays, in my opinion, often gives unexpected surprises that makes opposing players a little confused about taking action.

KCP is a good role player because he has matured and has a strong desire to win games. He also knows how to play defense, making his minutes on the floor highly productive, even if he struggles with his shooting at times. The Nuggets were fortunate to have him. If the Lakers had not traded him, he might have been able to contribute to their campaign last season.
KCP, Brown, and the rookie Braun made some tremendous help over that championship run. That rookie has something and I think he'll improve more in the Nuggets side. KCP steal in game 5 was a crucial thing because if he haven't get that it might be Butler's score and momentum will change phase again. Lakers will rebrand once again, they even trade their role players when they won that championship in the  bubble, how much more that they just reach the semifinals. Kinda frustrating tbh.
I've seen some pictures of Braun's success. Prior to his season with the Nuggets, he had already won a championship. Now, in his first season with the NBA, he has earned his first championship, making history for himself. LOL.

Anyways, congratulations to the whole team. It wasn't just Jokic alone, as he himself wouldn't be happy to hear that. He believes in team effort and gives credit to the help of his teammates for the biggest success of his career.

I believe Jokic should be the highest-paid player in the NBA, and I hope to see him healthy all the time.
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June 13, 2023, 08:12:06 AM
I also quite like KCP because the way he plays, in my opinion, often gives unexpected surprises that makes opposing players a little confused about taking action.

KCP is a good role player because he has matured and has a strong desire to win games. He also knows how to play defense, making his minutes on the floor highly productive, even if he struggles with his shooting at times. The Nuggets were fortunate to have him. If the Lakers had not traded him, he might have been able to contribute to their campaign last season.
KCP, Brown, and the rookie Braun made some tremendous help over that championship run. That rookie has something and I think he'll improve more in the Nuggets side. KCP steal in game 5 was a crucial thing because if he haven't get that it might be Butler's score and momentum will change phase again. Lakers will rebrand once again, they even trade their role players when they won that championship in the  bubble, how much more that they just reach the semifinals. Kinda frustrating tbh.
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June 13, 2023, 07:54:37 AM
I also quite like KCP because the way he plays, in my opinion, often gives unexpected surprises that makes opposing players a little confused about taking action.

KCP is a good role player because he has matured and has a strong desire to win games. He also knows how to play defense, making his minutes on the floor highly productive, even if he struggles with his shooting at times. The Nuggets were fortunate to have him. If the Lakers had not traded him, he might have been able to contribute to their campaign last season.

Yeah, I want to give credit to KCP crucial defence in every game but his presence can be replaced since other players are capable of doing that with shooting. Nuggets will not gonna attain this achievement if the duo of Joker and Murray is not consistent since the rest of their teammates are struggling with points. Miami and the rest of the team that the Nuggets beat is a high scorer team. The duo is the only reason why they became champions.
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June 13, 2023, 07:47:10 AM
I also quite like KCP because the way he plays, in my opinion, often gives unexpected surprises that makes opposing players a little confused about taking action.

KCP is a good role player because he has matured and has a strong desire to win games. He also knows how to play defense, making his minutes on the floor highly productive, even if he struggles with his shooting at times. The Nuggets were fortunate to have him. If the Lakers had not traded him, he might have been able to contribute to their campaign last season.
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June 13, 2023, 07:32:10 AM
Miami Heat deserves some praise, they are underrated in the whole playoffs but they proved them wrong.
The Denver Nuggets also deserve the praise especially Nikola Jokic, the media keeps on bashing him as an overrated player and there was even a time he was called a "stat padder" because of the amount of triple-doubles that he recorded. That's not right, they cannot just accept he is a real genius.
I guess he can shut up his critics now, when he won back to back MVP, his detractors says he need to win a NBA ring. Now he did it, but for sure they will still find loopholes in his game. Maybe they will say now that he needs to win another one, and another one.
I actually found one on Twitter earlier on how they explain things thoroughly why Nikola Jokic and the Denver Nuggets won the championship.
It's so absurd that I don't know if that person is still in his right mind.
Here's how he summarized it.
Nuggets won against the 8th seed Timberwolves
Then they won against the 4th seed Phoenix Suns.
Next is the Lakers another 7th seed.
Finally, they won against the 8th seed again.
He said, "What's so great about that?" Obviously, not a basketball fan as he only looked at the seed, and even if we go at looking at just the seeds, he didn't even consider how strong the Miami Heat is in defeating the number 1 and 2 of the East. Very bad summary of how the game works. And like it's the fault of the Nuggets to be in battle against the number 8. Somehow, it made me chuckle at how far haters will go just to pull down anyone.

Bruce Brown and KCP showed up again in the last minutes of the game, the same as they did in Game 4. Defense! An offensive rebound and a put-back for Brown which is crucial to get the lead back and a steal from KCP that ended the game. Congratulations to the Denver Nuggets.

Specially Bruce Brown, I think he just elevated the game. And just like any other championship team, there have to be someone who has to do the dirty jobs and that is Brown and KCP. KCP is now twice a NBA champion, first with the Lakers and now with Denver Nuggets.
He truly did. Bruce Brown worked harder in this team although he has his moments with the Brooklyn Nets too. I am amazed with both of them especially KCP, he realized that he is not just a shooter anymore, he is also good in defense as long as he is focused. A good steal from the Washington Wizards and I like how he feels like he is home now.
Then there is Aaron Gordon that was not interviewed during the presentation of the trophies, I wished they let them talk.
That guy just defended the star players of every team they defeated. KAT, Lebron, Kevin Durant, and Jimmy Butler. A very impressive defensive discipline from him. He didn't even care if he cannot score as long as he can stop the star players, most of them will not be seen in stats but we as basketball fans will not forget that.
It's done. He can go home now. He had been itching to be back in his country.  Grin There's a horse race coming up.
Is this Jokic? I've just watched an interview of him that he certainly likes to stay on their stable.
Yes, that's him.
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June 13, 2023, 07:24:20 AM
KCP is now twice a NBA champion, first with the Lakers and now with Denver Nuggets.
Dude, I really like KCP.

He's been traded after winning the title with Lakers and now he's with the Denver Nuggets. I hope that he won't be traded again and he's good to stay with his team. They've got a chemistry and he's always there when he's needed on those important minutes of the game.
The Denver Nuggets will be able to value their dependable player even more so it would be impossible to trade KCP who helped to claim the title.
KCP will be able to be a Nuggets player for much longer and I'm sure he can give the best for the Nuggets in the next few championships.

I also quite like KCP because the way he plays, in my opinion, often gives unexpected surprises that makes opposing players a little confused about taking action.
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June 13, 2023, 06:53:01 AM
Nuggets ended the finals and Jokic won the NBA finals. What a journey for a piece of history in the making that has been made by this big guy who likes chicken nuggets that eventually became the face of the Nuggets franchise. LOL.
Those who have bet for the game 5 to end with Nuggets are surely enjoying but I've got a lot of friends dismay on this ending because many of them thought that Miami got this, still props to them.

What a journey for the best big man of this season and there's no doubt he truly deserves it also his teammates help him a lot to achieve this great goal of their life as NBA players. Thankfully the Finals MVP is no other than Jokic. After he constantly brings his team to playoffs it finally pays off well and also this time his best buddy is playing Jamal Murray. They played well and deserves this championship without recruiting some star players nor did they go to the championship teams that won multiple championships in the past. they trust each other and eventually earn their best reward ever.

Truly a big achievement of his career since he won a lot of trophy and sealed his legacy this season. A big kodus also to his teammates which do their job and perform very well without thinking about padding their stats in finals especially on Murray this is really a big win and they erase their finals drought for 47 years since there franchise created and now Nuggets has been erased to the list of the teams which didn't win a championship.
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June 13, 2023, 06:52:20 AM
Nuggets ended the finals and Jokic won the NBA finals. What a journey for a piece of history in the making that has been made by this big guy who likes chicken nuggets that eventually became the face of the Nuggets franchise. LOL.
Those who have bet for the game 5 to end with Nuggets are surely enjoying but I've got a lot of friends dismay on this ending because many of them thought that Miami got this, still props to them.

What a journey for the best big man of this season and there's no doubt he truly deserves it also his teammates help him a lot to achieve this great goal of their life as NBA players. Thankfully the Finals MVP is no other than Jokic. After he constantly brings his team to playoffs it finally pays off well and also this time his best buddy is playing Jamal Murray. They played well and deserves this championship without recruiting some star players nor did they go to the championship teams that won multiple championships in the past. they trust each other and eventually earn their best reward ever.
Joker made it look easy to overcome the Lakers in the playoffs and then for this finals. No debate that they really are the best team currently and let's see if they'll be a back-to-back champion for the next season. They're not the most desired team to win this year's title but I am also sure that many will start to follow their journey for next season. It's all great and hard work for the tandem of Murray and Jokic and despite that they're not crowded with star players, they themselves are making starplayers together with their teammates contributions.
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June 13, 2023, 06:50:04 AM
when it was hard, Jokic proved he can lift Denver all alone, Murray added some points, but in second half when Denver made an overturn last night, Jokic was focal point
congrats on first title for Denver and Jokic, they deserved it

will be interesting how this will going in next season, maybe they can repeat it
Miami deserves congratulations as well, they kicked-out Bucks and Celtics and that eased case for Denver a lot
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