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April 08, 2023, 01:50:02 AM
It's hard to think how the Mavs lost that one against the Bulls. They still had a good lead in the early fourth quarter but they can't protect it which was a shame. It's hard to close out games when majority of the team's efforts are spent on offense I guess?

Warriors already had a sizeable lead against the Kings. A good statement or impression to make ahead of the playoffs.

Kyrie Irving did not play. Foot injury is written in the reports. And the final play without stars is like they already waved the white flag. Wasted opportunity for the Mavericks. They did great in the first half of the season but ended with so many problems in their roster. They should've just let Brunson stayed with them and offered a better deal. Dinwiddie and DFS were also a waste giving them away in the Nets for Kyrie. Mavs is focused with Doncic, he just need roleplayers, not another star. Next year, will be another problem for them on who will really be their leader.
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April 07, 2023, 11:22:43 PM
It's hard to think how the Mavs lost that one against the Bulls. They still had a good lead in the early fourth quarter but they can't protect it which was a shame. It's hard to close out games when majority of the team's efforts are spent on offense I guess?

Warriors already had a sizeable lead against the Kings. A good statement or impression to make ahead of the playoffs.
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April 07, 2023, 11:05:38 PM
^^ First time though that Luka might be having doubts with the Mavs now or even thinking why the hell they got Kyrie for nothing at the end of their regular game. It seems that they have this game already, however, they might be looking for next season already as Luka didn't play that much in this game.

For the Kings vs GSW, this could be a preview of the first round playoff series.

And as usual, Warriors living on their 3rd quarter run and now leading double digits entering the 4th.
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April 07, 2023, 10:24:04 PM

My guess is that Dallas will make it easy for OKC and already lose the first of their last 2 remaining games against the Bulls.

They are so inconsistent, this would not be a surprise. And even if they win they still have to beat San Antonio in their last game as well. I know the Spurs are a terrible team but wouldn't it be funny if they actually have a chance for the playins and all they have to do is beating the Spurs in the Texas derby and they lose against a team of bench warmers and young guys. That would be hilarious.

It's a forgettable season for Dallas and they have to face the facts that they totally messed up their roster yet again.

Now Kyrie is reported to "test the market", yet sources say he just does this to squeeze out every penny out of the Mavs. He could get up to 272 million for 5 years whil from any other teams he could "only" get 201 million for 4 years.

I don't understand why team would pay this guy who has some mental issues, is super disloyal and in the past years has always been a trouble maker, that much money. After 1 year it would be considered "the worst contract in the league" , just like John Wall, Russell Westbrock and others.


I like quoting myself when I am right.  Grin

Kind of unexpected that Dalles blew it's small chance to reach the playins in their first of 2 games already, and that at home.

Mavs missed some players as well but Chicago without their 2 best scorers ( Lavine and DeRozan) and Dallas led by 13 at halftime and they still managed to lose the game, that is some real achievement right there.

You can lose games, but such an important one and eating a 4:23 run in the 4th quarter is just weak, from +11 to -8. This team does not belong in the post season and Luka should think about leaving the sinking ship.

He has been winning all his life and now being stuck in this situation must be horrible for him.
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April 07, 2023, 10:18:39 PM
For the West, still log jam, another bad night for the Mavs, they took a good lead in the first 2 quarters, but the Bulls take the 3rd and the 4th. Mavs down 3 with 9 seconds to go.
Yeah, Western Conference is still hanging because the Clippers and the Warriors are tied at 5th and 6th spots. This will determine who will battle the Suns and the Kings.

In case someone is asking what will happen if a tiebreaker is needed, here is the information to save you time researching.
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TIEBREAKER BASIS FOR TWO-WAY TIES:

(-) Tie breaker not needed (better overall winning percentage)
(1) Head-to-head won-lost percentage
(2) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division
(3) Division won-lost percentage for teams in the same division
(4) Conference won-lost percentage
(5) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, own conference
(6) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, other conference
(7) Net Points, all games
Credits to NBA here is the link.
Head-to-head status of Clippers and Warriors, in case they ended up in a tie.

As you can see, it's still a tie at 2-2.

So we go to the division leader.


Credits to the same link above.
Both Clippers and Warriors are in the same Division which is the Pacific and the Clippers are in a 2-win lead. So even if the Warriors defeated the Kings now they will just end up at 7-9 in their division. The Clippers will remain at number 5 unless they are defeated in one of their last 2 games so that the Warriors will win at the first rule which is winning percentage.
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April 07, 2023, 10:11:16 PM
While the Sixers have to go to OT to win against the Hawks without Joel Embiid and James Harden.

Not only those two, Sixers rest all their starting five plus Melton but still won against Hawks. Pathetic lost for Atlanta. That shows how deep Sixers roster is as I previously said here several times. You don't have Embiid and Harden, that's okay. You don't have Tucker, Harris, Maxey, Melton, that's okay. You can still win with Niang, McDaniels, House, Milton, Harrell, Springer and Reed. Even McClung played and contributed to the score. They shot %50.
Heat looked better against Sixers. Hawks will have hard times against Heat in play-in game. It looks like the season will end early for Trae Young.
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April 07, 2023, 10:07:39 PM
Warriors on the road against the Kings, we all know that the Warriors is not a road team, but without Sabonis, Fox and Huerter, the Warrior should win because they want to stay on their current position and doesn't want to go to the play-in.

But the Kings are holding, and they are just down by 5 in the first half.

Los Angeles Lakers vs the Phoenix Suns is still live, Suns with a slight 3 point advantage.
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April 07, 2023, 09:42:07 PM
^^ Yes, it's all set, some of the teams in the East like the Bucks have rested their players in tonight games and obviously, they've lost big against the Grizzlies who still field Ja Morant.

Celtics though have won against the Raptors, solidifying their second spot in the East. While the Sixers have to go to OT to win against the Hawks without Joel Embiid and James Harden.

For the West, still log jam, another bad night for the Mavs, they took a good lead in the first 2 quarters, but the Bulls take the 3rd and the 4th. Mavs down 3 with 9 seconds to go.
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April 07, 2023, 09:30:01 PM
The Eastern Conference standings is set already.



I guess there might be some changes on this one in the 8th-10th seed, but the top 6 seeds are in tact and will not change anymore. With the loss of the Heat against the Wizards, and Nets winning against the Magic, that sealed which team will be the 6th and 7th seed between the two. As for the 8th-10th seed, I guess that will not change anymore regardless of what will happen isn't it?

Many are still waiting for the results in the West, and because it's that tight, it's still hard to know which teams will enter the playoffs, and the play-ins.
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April 07, 2023, 06:42:45 PM
If we're talking about injuries, Portland Trail Blazers is the unluckiest team. If they didn't have so many injuries, they would've made the play-offs easily. When we think about ideal rosters, they were the 7th or 8th best team in the West. If we make a squad with injured players only, they would be in play-in zone. More than half the team is injured, the Portland curse is at work again.
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April 07, 2023, 04:31:45 PM
A bummer that Zion has been ruled out for the play-in tournament and likely the start of the playoffs. I’m not sure his body will ever allow him to stay healthy all season and be ready for the playoffs. That was always the concern with his size and strength. How long before they just sit him all season so he can make a playoff run? This is becoming an annual thing.

As strange as it may sound, Zion's strength is his weakness. As far as I know, he weighs 284 lbs, and that's obviously too much stress on his knees since the NBA has a very tight schedule of games during the regular season. By the way, Zion has never played all 82 games in any season in his career.
I mean, if Zion wants a long and successful career in the NBA, he should reduce his weight to at least 220-240 lbs. That would make him less injury prone.
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April 07, 2023, 04:28:10 PM
A bummer that Zion has been ruled out for the play-in tournament and likely the start of the playoffs. I’m not sure his body will ever allow him to stay healthy all season and be ready for the playoffs. That was always the concern with his size and strength. How long before they just sit him all season so he can make a playoff run?
Well, he's been really playing well over this season but that's one thing to be concerned about and it came out again.
Just as the other stars that hoping to get some good shape when the playoffs gets in, we have no idea if he'll be healthy over all of these matches that's about to come.

This is becoming an annual thing.
Yeah, even if he performs well and after his contract expires. This could lead him to have lesser $$$ in offer.
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April 07, 2023, 03:34:56 PM
Kyrie Irving is a weird player. I mean can you argue that he is not better than the PG they had before his trade? Spencer Dinwiddie if I am not wrong, isn' Kyrie better than him? It should be easily clear that he is better than him right? That seems like a clear choice, and yet ever since the trade Mavs has been terrible and I mean like not even remotely close to what it used to be levels of terrible. I still can't understand how terrible of a teammate and person you have to be in order to be a better player and still have a worse result. That is something that rarely ever happens, a team getting a better player but being worse, and Mavs will have a hard time recovering from this move.

Subtraction by addition.  Kyrie is worlds better than Spencer Dinwiddie but basketball is a team sport.  It's cases like this that show you can't just add players that are better than others.  Otherwise being a scout or a GM would be a mindless job and anyone can do it.  Takes a special talent to put a team together.  Sure helps to get talent but talent had to be surrounded by the right players.

Jordan had the Steve Kerrs and Dennis Rodmans on his team that played their part, made a championship team.  Too many alphas and you start getting issues.
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April 07, 2023, 03:11:08 PM
Kyrie Irving is a weird player. I mean can you argue that he is not better than the PG they had before his trade? Spencer Dinwiddie if I am not wrong, isn' Kyrie better than him? It should be easily clear that he is better than him right? That seems like a clear choice, and yet ever since the trade Mavs has been terrible and I mean like not even remotely close to what it used to be levels of terrible. I still can't understand how terrible of a teammate and person you have to be in order to be a better player and still have a worse result. That is something that rarely ever happens, a team getting a better player but being worse, and Mavs will have a hard time recovering from this move.
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April 07, 2023, 02:43:54 PM
On this page, no one is talking about the Brooklyn Nets and Miami Heat, both of which have two games remaining this season. They're battling for the 6th seed, and the loser will be in the play-in tournament.

Which of these two teams you guys think will claim the 6th seed in their conference? I'll go with Brooklyn Nets since I choose that Nets will be the Champion this season. lol



Nets are essentially up 2 games on them since they own the tie breaker against them.  In the two games it will just take 1 Nets win OR one Miami loss to let the Nets secure the 6 hole.  If I had to bet I'd be all in on Nets winning the sixth spot.  But anything can and will happen. 
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April 07, 2023, 02:18:42 PM
4 losses in a row and Jazz is officially out of the play-in picture now. Mavericks have 2 games left, against Bulls and Spurs. Bulls guaranteed their 10th place so it's very possible for Mavs to win both games. Thunder have only one game left and they'll play with Grizzlies. Normally it'd be a though game but we probably see big rotation before play-off so Thunder may win this one. Last place for play-in will be determined in last games literally. I'm okay with both teams, either Thunder or Mavs for play-in but I don't think they'll get a spot in play-off.

If the Thunders will defeat the Grizzlies on their last game, the Mavs will still remain at the 11th spot which means they can't qualify for the play-in but even if the Thunders will get defeated here and the Mavs will just win one game out of the two remaining, they are still out of the picture because the Thunders have already defeated the Mavs this season with a 2-1 standing. So, even if they'll get a tie in the 10th spot, it belongs to the Thunder.
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April 07, 2023, 01:51:53 PM
On this page, no one is talking about the Brooklyn Nets and Miami Heat, both of which have two games remaining this season. They're battling for the 6th seed, and the loser will be in the play-in tournament.

Which of these two teams you guys think will claim the 6th seed in their conference? I'll go with Brooklyn Nets since I choose that Nets will be the Champion this season. lol

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April 07, 2023, 01:07:13 PM
No mate, I believe that @cryptomaniac_xxx is referring to the Lakers next match-up which is against the Phoenix Suns. The season hasn't ended yet for the Los Angeles Lakers because they still have 2 games left to play which I also got some doubts if they can upset them especially now that Durant is there and Booker is still explosive, after that, they will be facing the Utah Jazz again.
Durant's stats together with Phoenix Suns is good and that's why they can't just sweep them but with Jazz, it's possible that they're going to win against them.
Anyway, I believe in Lakers and that's why it's possible that they'll have some great ending on this season after being on the drowning status that we've all witnessed.
Well, I think Lakers has still breathing room and that they can clinch that play-in spot but when it comes to the playoffs I think the chance is slim with how they perform, they really are not performing well except for LBJ and AD. Yeah it's still early to predict it but with Jazz as an opponent I think that's a difficult task.
I'll wait until these two matches end and let's see from there. They've proved themselves coming from the lowest of their standing up to this and that won't be just enough for them to underperform when they're already there but this is basketball, the ball is round and with everything expected and unexpected can be seen and exist at the same time.
Needless to say, I'll wish them all the best and they have to beat first Phoenix and this is where the debate and thoughts are mixing up because it seems that they can't.


And this game will happen later, let's see what will the Lakers do in-front of the revamped Phoenix Suns, this is interesting to see
Other than that, a lot of people will surely watch this game because after 4 long years, the chance has come that Durant and LeBron will face each other again in a game because their last game was on Christmas Day of 2018.

For the latest tip-off, the Suns squad especially the cores are all healthy while for the Lakers, D'Lo, LBJ and AD is questionable.
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April 07, 2023, 12:56:40 PM
The Suns won tonight against the Nuggets and Durant had 29 points. That’s about the only good that came out of that game for them though. Chris Paul scored 25 which is a little high for him, but they were playing against a Nuggets squad that was basically resting their entire team. Not a good look that the Suns only managed to win the game by four points.
And there were moments in the 3rd quarter that the bench players are out scoring Durant, Booker and CP3 and out hustling them and take a 4 point lead. But the Suns are not bothered though, maybe they think that they can still salvage the game in the 4th quarter and that's what they did.

But a bit disappointed for the fans as yeah, they just won by just 4 points against a team that is resting their players.

While the Suns has to go full throttle in order to take this W.
Durant hasn't been there for too long, so it is not going to be too quick for him to get used to the team and start being awesome, and he already did played well but of course efficiency and making sure others play better as well is a difficult thing.

This is how Lebron dominated the east for so long, dude wasn't just good for himself, but he also made other teammates look great as well, plenty of players shined when Lebron was there and then retired after he left, he made people who shouldn't even be in NBA look like championship team, Durant can't do that at all. Dude is individually one of the greatest scorers ever, and would have gone for 40k if he was healthy all his career, but can't make others around him better.
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April 07, 2023, 12:52:13 PM
^^ Yeah, hard to see why teams are still interested on Kyrie though, maybe he was really that good that Dallas took a chance on him and hope that him and Luka will work it out together, same with Lebron and Kyrie, but it didn't.

Kyrie seems to have his own mind or at least not the norm as far as NBA players goes, sometimes he acts weird, or something that we think he had some mental issues or it is just his personality. If he test the market again, then let's see what teams are going to give him that chance again.

A big part of that reason why the Dallas Mavericks took their risks on acquiring Kyrie Irving is because the man truly got talents, which give the team a ray of hope when he was traded but all that was shattered when the duo started playing. It seems like it's just too much too ask because even if Kyrie is still a valuable player, he is not that kind of Kyrie anymore way back in the Cavs where he helped Lebron put a chip on their shoulders. The team is all offense and lacks defense, that's why their opponents aren't really having a hard time penetrating.
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