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February 06, 2023, 10:40:43 PM
Just got done watching the Chicago Bulls game. It was nice to see them play like they should against a pretty poor team.  Now the Bulls are finally within a game of a .500 record, and perhaps starting to turn the ship around a little bit.  Funny thing is we are approaching the trade deadline on the 9th, and the Bulls certainly have plenty of buzz going around in the trade headlines...I guess time will tell when it comes to my currently unfor. fav team.
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February 06, 2023, 10:30:22 PM
Well, looks like Nets robbed Mavs with this trade. Kyrie was usually great but getting Dinwiddie plus Finney-Smith was an offer that couldn't be refused, not to mention a couple of future picks. The profitable side is obvious. I also don't know how Luka and Kyrie will share the ball, it doesn't look well taught move by Mavs management. Even after this trade, things are not absolutely clear for Nets though. Durant may go as well. Either way it's time to shine for Cam Thomas.
Indeed, they almost pulled a big upset on the Clippers tonight, Cam Thomas has a huge 47 point game performance again, he is in the elite of Nets players scoring back to back 40 plus points, including in that group? KD and Irving and Vince Carter.

So I guess it might be a robbery because Cam Thomas will emerge as now the second scoring option if KD comes back. And then they have Spencer again for another scoring option and of course, Finney-Smith might revived his role as the go to 3 point guy, besides Joe Harris and Curry.
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February 06, 2023, 10:04:46 PM
Looks like the Suns are also trying to get in on the Durant sweepstakes as well, offering Chris Paul and some others for KD.  The fireworks might not be done yet!
They are trading CP3 already because they know that their chances of getting a title is going lower and lower as he goes older and older.
CP3 is 37 years old already. As the years goes by, his performance goes down as he goes older. Ayton doesn't want to be in Phoenix for obvious reasons. Booker's dream of winning a title is just a dream with these 2 all-star players if they will not do something.

Trading Ayton, Bridges and Paul or even only Paul and Ayton will help the Suns in their run for the title. Getting KD would be their best option because we know what is the capability of a Kevin Durant. A Durant-Booker duo might be helpful for the Suns. 2-3 days left before the trade deadline so I agree that we might see some unexpected trades here and there. Cheesy

Even after this trade, things are not absolutely clear for Nets though. Durant may go as well. Either way it's time to shine for Cam Thomas.
Cam Thomas and Claxton as well as Dinwiddie.

If Durant requests a trade (which is likely to happen), watch out for these 3 underrated players. Thomas just got his 2nd 40+ game just tonight against the Clippers though they lost and Claxton is having his best season with him leading the blocks and is a double-double machine. Dinwiddie might be more efficient now that he is in Brooklyn, but we don't know. Let's see how the new Nets team goes now that they don't have Kyrie anymore.
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February 06, 2023, 09:22:31 PM
Well, looks like Nets robbed Mavs with this trade. Kyrie was usually great but getting Dinwiddie plus Finney-Smith was an offer that couldn't be refused, not to mention a couple of future picks. The profitable side is obvious. I also don't know how Luka and Kyrie will share the ball, it doesn't look well taught move by Mavs management. Even after this trade, things are not absolutely clear for Nets though. Durant may go as well. Either way it's time to shine for Cam Thomas.

I wouldn't say it a complete robbed, but that is a huge price to pay for getting Kyrie by the Mavs. And yes, I do agree, we don't know how the pairing will do, they are going to be small, but perhaps, coach Kidd, being a point guard, knows a thing or do about how he will play Kyrie with the Mavs.

And in just like that, the Nets are now a messed up team again, they gave a lot of money to get KD, Kyrie and to some extend Harden and their future picks as well. Now in 3 years, they are back to where it all started, and probably KD too will leave as you have said.
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February 06, 2023, 09:09:02 PM
Well, looks like Nets robbed Mavs with this trade. Kyrie was usually great but getting Dinwiddie plus Finney-Smith was an offer that couldn't be refused, not to mention a couple of future picks. The profitable side is obvious. I also don't know how Luka and Kyrie will share the ball, it doesn't look well taught move by Mavs management. Even after this trade, things are not absolutely clear for Nets though. Durant may go as well. Either way it's time to shine for Cam Thomas.
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February 06, 2023, 06:44:07 PM
^ I wouldn’t get too comfortable with Durant on the Nets… Stephen A Smith is reporting that he’s heard rumors of negotiations between the Boston Celtics and Brooklyn Nets involving a trade of Kevin Durant for Jaylen Brown. It’s definitely possible for all sorts of reasons. KD wants to be in Boston, Jaylen wants to be the star of his team, KD wants out of Brooklyn, trade deadline approaching… We could have another big Nets trade today!
I've heard of Jaylen's potential trade before and it was just after the finals that they've been with and he doesn't like that rumor that has come out.
But now, if this will come into reality and that's the reaction that he'll do upon being traded then that wouldn't hurt his feeling a lot. He'll be in a new team where he'll definitely get all the attention that he's wanting and needing. Such trades have been released by the Nets and there could be even more, I thought that they've got no plans of pushing KD away as it's been reported before that there were no taker but now, it seems that some teams would like to offer them something for him.
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February 06, 2023, 06:41:20 PM
The funny thing I just realized about all this stuff is that Kyrie could have requested this trade at any time but he chose to do it the week that LeBron is about to break one of the most coveted records in sports.  I think maybe he was feeling a bit like he wasn't the center of attention for a second and had to do what he had to do to try and get himself in the news cycle.  Maybe that's just coincidence, but with Kyrie nothing is off the table.
Valid thoughts, possibly that he has really done it on purpose and the timing was perfect. He's known for that whenever there were some issues before about him.
Instead of the potential history that Lebron is about to make, he's become the talk first before that happens. Possible also that it's just mere coincidence but as we all know, everything and the timing was totally perfect.

I do know and am well aware that Kyrie Irving does really have an unusual character since then and does crazy things unexpectedly out of the blue, and even has a toxic attitude to everybody, with no expectation, but your guesses are maybe too much and really insane to think.

Asking trade just to try not to be overshadowed in the news because of Lebron James' hype in breaking a big record this week? That was funny to think. Grin

It's not even a coincidence. It's just that it happened simply. No need to overthink that.
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February 06, 2023, 06:40:58 PM
Reports are saying that the Cavaliers have removed Kevin Love from their rotation. Speculation is that he may be on the trading block. He’s been playing great this year but he is getting older… I’m not sure where would be a good landing spot for him, but the Cavs have been playing so well maybe they’re trying to make a run this year and think they could do better than Love. They are pretty stacked with big guys already.

Cavs need young legs to their team and K.Love might slower them down that's why maybe they decide to trade him so that they can get more better fresh rooster added to their team. But its really sad to see this happen because K.love is really a dedicated player which contribute good on the past run of Cavs, They can still use him if they want since his experience and presence as veteran is really helpful in the bench.
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February 06, 2023, 06:25:02 PM
The funny thing I just realized about all this stuff is that Kyrie could have requested this trade at any time but he chose to do it the week that LeBron is about to break one of the most coveted records in sports.  I think maybe he was feeling a bit like he wasn't the center of attention for a second and had to do what he had to do to try and get himself in the news cycle.  Maybe that's just coincidence, but with Kyrie nothing is off the table.

Looks like the Suns are also trying to get in on the Durant sweepstakes as well, offering Chris Paul and some others for KD.  The fireworks might not be done yet!

I think he just needs time to perform well in the Nets to show other teams his best side in the game. He was able to carry the Nets while KD is out due to injury. I think it is just coincidence that Lebron was about to break the scoring when he requested the trade since it is also near the trade deadline. But if you are right, Kyrie is really sick to do that. Cheesy

Looks like the Suns are also trying to get in on the Durant sweepstakes as well, offering Chris Paul and some others for KD.  The fireworks might not be done yet!

That would be sick if that pushes through. KD + Booker + Ayton, is a perfect candidate for a championship. Now that Brooklyn is in shambles, KD should follow suit and leave the Nets as well. KD cannot expect any help coming from Simmons.

I will assume that DeAndre Ayton might also be included in the trading block. There's no way the Brooklyn Nets won't ask for that. Referring to Chris Paul, although he can still be a big help to any team, I consider he doesn't have that much bearing right now at this point of his career. Other Suns players that are rumored to be part of the package are Jae Crowder, Cam Johnson, Mikal Bridges, etc.

Just a wild guess of mine, I think that trade won't be executed prior to the trade deadline. I mean, that was tough to negotiate within just a few days period (although the Kyrie Irving trade was negotiated quickly).

It could if they sweeten the pot with a few first-round draft picks. That would allow the Nets to rebuild faster after Durant and Kyrie leave them and the Suns a stronger contender for a championship.
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February 06, 2023, 06:04:51 PM
The funny thing I just realized about all this stuff is that Kyrie could have requested this trade at any time but he chose to do it the week that LeBron is about to break one of the most coveted records in sports.  I think maybe he was feeling a bit like he wasn't the center of attention for a second and had to do what he had to do to try and get himself in the news cycle.  Maybe that's just coincidence, but with Kyrie nothing is off the table.
Valid thoughts, possibly that he has really done it on purpose and the timing was perfect. He's known for that whenever there were some issues before about him.
Instead of the potential history that Lebron is about to make, he's become the talk first before that happens. Possible also that it's just mere coincidence but as we all know, everything and the timing was totally perfect.
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February 06, 2023, 05:34:13 PM
Looks like the Suns are also trying to get in on the Durant sweepstakes as well, offering Chris Paul and some others for KD.  The fireworks might not be done yet!

And there are speculations that Phoenix Suns fans might be surprised before the trade deadline. With the Suns' new team owner taking place on Wednesday, they might push for their goal by trying to get Durant before this week's trade deadline.

I will assume that DeAndre Ayton might also be included in the trading block. There's no way the Brooklyn Nets won't ask for that. Referring to Chris Paul, although he can still be a big help to any team, I consider he doesn't have that much bearing right now at this point of his career. Other Suns players that are rumored to be part of the package are Jae Crowder, Cam Johnson, Mikal Bridges, etc.

Just a wild guess of mine, I think that trade won't be executed prior to the trade deadline. I mean, that was tough to negotiate within just a few days period (although the Kyrie Irving trade was negotiated quickly).
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February 06, 2023, 05:16:37 PM

Durant is not the old Durant who won championships with the Warriors, he became a fragile player now that could be injured anytime, so there's no assurance that even if he will stay the Nets will be a championship team. The thing is, if they rely solely on Durant, what would happen if he'll get injured?

Most Injured player goes too, well there is plenty to say but mostly they are players that mostly miss many games, and right now both Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant are also injured and this is not surprising when a player has some age surely they become so brittle they tend to break, but yeah some of this players wants to chill more or wants to go on a team that will likely land championship even if they are injured, I think Kyrie Irving is thinking of retirement now, he is not really getting younger and wants some rings before that time comes, but for me, he doesn't really need to do such things he just needed to some push to get what he wants I think in the Brooklyn Nets they surely have a chance for a championship, Now Cam Thomas is really a wonder and should be given more time to play he is a real steal on the drafts,

Reports are saying that the Cavaliers have removed Kevin Love from their rotation. Speculation is that he may be on the trading block. He’s been playing great this year but he is getting older… I’m not sure where would be a good landing spot for him, but the Cavs have been playing so well maybe they’re trying to make a run this year and think they could do better than Love. They are pretty stacked with big guys already.

That is sad news for Kevin Love and at the same time an opportunity to go with the team that will likely has a huge chance of being a champion, Kevin Love has played for the Cleveland Cavaliers for I think 9 years. and pretty much he doesn't request something from them, right now since January 27 they are not using Kevin Love anymore, so since January 27 he is really out of the rotation he is just 34, but clearly he isn't playing like something that the Cavaliers would need, but maybe they are readying him for a trade,
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February 06, 2023, 02:42:04 PM
The funny thing I just realized about all this stuff is that Kyrie could have requested this trade at any time but he chose to do it the week that LeBron is about to break one of the most coveted records in sports.  I think maybe he was feeling a bit like he wasn't the center of attention for a second and had to do what he had to do to try and get himself in the news cycle.  Maybe that's just coincidence, but with Kyrie nothing is off the table.

Looks like the Suns are also trying to get in on the Durant sweepstakes as well, offering Chris Paul and some others for KD.  The fireworks might not be done yet!
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February 06, 2023, 02:38:19 PM
Actually, the only problem with Kyrie Irving is being toxic and having a big pride.

Anything about basketball, there's no problem with him, especially in terms of adjusting. Kyrie's sudden change of behavior is the only reason why he is becoming a big problem on any team he's in. Never heard of him being a problem because of his usual game performance.

If Kyrie will be able to find his comfort zone, at least, here in the Dallas Mavericks, and will last long until the end of the season or where this team will end up, everything will be good. Doncic agrees on the trade as per the report, therefore, seeing it as a big help for the team.

I've heard about the man's attitude problems, but never knew that it was really that bad honestly. I thought it was only some kind of a game thing wherein he sees himself putting in the work and the hours whereas his teammates never really put in the effort. Well hopefully he finds his jive in the Mavs with Doncic, and the spotlight Luka currently has will motivate him to play and perform well and set that toxicity aside. He's a very versatile player, and I'm sure the honchos in Mavs saw that too.
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February 06, 2023, 02:03:12 PM
It's a risky move by the Dallas Mavericks but it's worth a try though. By the way, for the information of everyone, Irving's contract will expire in less than a year, so it will give Dallas a huge problem if he will not sign with the Dallas. Well, I don't want to think of the negative possibility, I'm hoping that they'll play well so they have a shot of winning a championship together.

On the bright side, those players that the Dallas Mavericks gave up are really not that consistent even last season and compare to Irving, the gap is really huge in terms of performance. As you said, it's worth a try, at least this season as Mavericks really badly need a consistent teammate to their main guy, Luka Doncic.

Regardless if Kyrie will re-sign with the Mavericks in the off-season, I'm sure a Plan B is already set as the Mavericks are already aware that Kyrie is known for always changing his mind. For now, that's not the focus but to improve the team on this year's run.
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February 06, 2023, 01:18:39 PM
That would be a great deal for the Lakers if that happens but usually, we get to see these trades that are favoring the team that will be left or traded for.
This is an exciting developing story and if the rumors are true then there's an increased chance for the Lakers to be seen continuing to play together with Lebron but, it's on them to do the deal.

What might be the offer that will earn the interest of Nets management, aside from they will release Kyrie and his drama I'm not sure if they will take WB alone, like what you mentioned.

The team will ask for something that will benefit them in order to release their assets,
unless that is okay with the trade offer, then maybe it will happen. Kyrie is asking for it
and the management will take a look at all the offers that they might get to every interested
teams.
Well, look at the surprising news that we have. We thought that Iriving will be going with the Lakers but no, he'll go with the Dallas Mavericks helping Luka. The other details about the trade are on the article.
(https://news.yahoo.com/report-nets-trading-kyrie-irving-to-mavericks-for-spencer-dinwiddie-dorian-finney-smith-200453055.html)

Props to Mark Cuban for making this happen. You can always count on him to do something crazy. I look forward to reading more about the details of this deal and more so to the drama that come from it and how Mark Cuban chooses to handle it. I get the feeling he won’t put up with Kyrie’s nonsense and will be airing out their dirty laundry in public. If so, this could be news gold for a long time to come.

That goes to show how eager Mark Cuban is to have another championship on his hands, and this time, they will likely reach much further than what they did last time. It's a good news indeed for the entire Dallas Mavericks because they got more help from acquiring Kyrie Irving especially Luka Doncic.

And wait, there's more about the new Dallas Maverick:
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Dallas Mavericks not done making moves after Kyrie Irving deal

Caplan mentions the team has interest in trading away Tim Hardaway Jr., Davis Bertans, and JaVale McGee before the deadline. The Mavs also face a key decision on what to do with Christian Wood. He is on an expiring contract, and Dallas does not want to risk him departing in free agency for nothing as Jalen Brunson did last summer. Wood's extension talks have not gone well, and the front office may decide to trade him out of Dallas.
https://thesmokingcuban.com/posts/dallas-mavericks-trade-rumors-2023-not-done-after-kyrie-irving-deal
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February 06, 2023, 01:15:15 PM
^ I wouldn’t get too comfortable with Durant on the Nets… Stephen A Smith is reporting that he’s heard rumors of negotiations between the Boston Celtics and Brooklyn Nets involving a trade of Kevin Durant for Jaylen Brown. It’s definitely possible for all sorts of reasons. KD wants to be in Boston, Jaylen wants to be the star of his team, KD wants out of Brooklyn, trade deadline approaching… We could have another big Nets trade today!
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February 06, 2023, 01:04:11 PM
That's true, it's also been said for a long time that he really needs someone's help and there it goes through Kyrie. Hoping for the best of the two, and yes, it's really all about the chemistry because we've seen a team that's full of superstars but yet still didn't take any ring.
Chemistry is the key on their team and let's see how they'll be able to adjust to that and everyone is very optimistic with this addition for the Mavs.
It's a risky move by the Dallas Mavericks but it's worth a try though. By the way, for the information of everyone, Irving's contract will expire in less than a year, so it will give Dallas a huge problem if he will not sign with the Dallas. Well, I don't want to think of the negative possibility, I'm hoping that they'll play well so they have a shot of winning a championship together.
Luka is just getting the probable right help that he needs and that's why Dallas has decided to take him as soon as he's already expressed his desire of getting out of the Nets.
On the other hand, the Nets management has said that KD will stay on them and they're likely to build their roster with a new set of talented players but for how long and how soon enough?  Grin
Durant is not the old Durant who won championships with the Warriors, he became a fragile player now that could be injured anytime, so there's no assurance that even if he will stay the Nets will be a championship team. The thing is, if they rely solely on Durant, what would happen if he'll get injured?

Truth is, even if Durant is healthy and not a fragile player that he became now, he's still cannot lift the team and that's already a fact. Remember that he couldn't have a ring back then until he came to the Dub Nation and things started to get easy for him as he got all the help he needed without worrying about their defense because Green was still at the height of his prime. Now, the Nets will start to crumble again because they freed another role player and it will take time before they can at least be one of the threats on the league.
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February 06, 2023, 12:34:24 PM
Actually, the only problem with Kyrie Irving is being toxic and having a big pride.

Anything about basketball, there's no problem with him, especially in terms of adjusting. Kyrie's sudden change of behavior is the only reason why he is becoming a big problem on any team he's in. Never heard of him being a problem because of his usual game performance.

If Kyrie will be able to find his comfort zone, at least, here in the Dallas Mavericks, and will last long until the end of the season or where this team will end up, everything will be good. Doncic agrees on the trade as per the report, therefore, seeing it as a big help for the team.
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February 06, 2023, 12:04:26 PM
I just learned about the Nets - Mavericks reported deal. It's probably what Luka needs at the moment but I doubt this is going to work out in the long-run. Someone made a comment on this that they will need two balls so they could play together hehe. Great chance for some young guys like Thomas and even Watanabe to step up.
My thoughts exactly. I couldn't believe it when I heard the Mavs deal last night. I literally told my friend if he was joking. I wonder how this will affect Luka. As it is pointed out above, he loves the have the ball and Kyrie is that kind of player also. I though Kyrie to Lakers was a better deal for Nets at first, but I read that their plan is to have Durant as long as possible and make team around him with draft picks. Durant is 34 but he also seems like he has 3-4 good years ahead of him, similar to Lebron. Things were not working so greatly with Kyrie and they got a deal out of him before his contract is finished. An actual good move from Nets, surprisingly.
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