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February 09, 2023, 02:09:00 PM
Another trade news is that Thomas Bryant was also dealt by the Lakers to the Nuggets Davon Reed and three 2nd-round picks. The rumor is that Bryant is not happy with his playing time, specially when AD is back on the floor again.

So it will be Jokic and Bryant protecting the rim for the Nuggets.

But I doubt that he will have a good time as well with the Nuggets, obviously, this is Jokic team. Or maybe him playing Center and then Jokic moving to PF, lets see.

I was just looking over this trade on the list and wondering why on earth the Lakers made it...  Bryant had been playing well for them in Anthony Davis' absence and even if he was unhappy, he was under contract and playing a fairly large role.  I'm sure he wants more playing time but who doesn't?  With Anthony Davis so injury prone, I think this trade is going to hurt the Lakers unless they have something lined up that I don't know about.  Who is going to be their backup center?  Maybe LeBron is going to try and recruit Kevin Love to the Lakers if he gets bought out or maybe we'll see one of the recent big men they worked out get a chance?
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February 09, 2023, 01:44:06 PM
Another trade news is that Thomas Bryant was also dealt by the Lakers to the Nuggets Davon Reed and three 2nd-round picks. The rumor is that Bryant is not happy with his playing time, specially when AD is back on the floor again.

So it will be Jokic and Bryant protecting the rim for the Nuggets.

But I doubt that he will have a good time as well with the Nuggets, obviously, this is Jokic team. Or maybe him playing Center and then Jokic moving to PF, lets see.
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February 09, 2023, 01:40:51 PM
I’m reading reports now that the Warriors are or have (depending on the report) traded James Wiseman. I’m surprised by this. I thought he’d give them the athletic center they need, but I guess he didn’t fit into the system. I think if they gave him more minutes he could’ve been a much better player than he is viewed as and probably could have gotten them a better trade package, but it looks like they’ve given up on him. This opens a spot for Kevin Love…

Prior to this trading, I have read that they are contemplating on James Wiseman whether to trade him or not. But I guess the Warriors has made their decision to just let go of the kid. We don't know the reasons, maybe because of necessities or maybe they didn't find Wiseman a good fit for the Warriors at this point. Although there was a lot of hype on him when he joins the Warriors. Let's see if the Warriors are going to replace him with Kevin Love or get another big man to fill the void.
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February 09, 2023, 01:22:22 PM
I’m reading reports now that the Warriors are or have (depending on the report) traded James Wiseman. I’m surprised by this. I thought he’d give them the athletic center they need, but I guess he didn’t fit into the system. I think if they gave him more minutes he could’ve been a much better player than he is viewed as and probably could have gotten them a better trade package, but it looks like they’ve given up on him. This opens a spot for Kevin Love…
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February 09, 2023, 01:04:41 PM
Still digesting the Durant to Phoenix move. I wonder if Durant will buy a house in the valley…

Why not? weather is good in Phoenix.

One situation I can’t say I understand is that the Cavaliers are rumored to be considering buying out Kevin Love’s contract. He’s on the last year of his deal so I don’t know what they’d get from doing that and I’m sure Love isn’t going to take a massive loss on his contract to be a free agent a few months sooner. If he is bought out though, I imagine a contender will scoop him up. I think he’d be a good fit for the Warriors.

And I thought by now that Kevin Love should be out of the Cavs. If I still remember, he says that he wants to play with Portland and Lillard like 2-3 years ago. Let's see what the Cavs or Love's plan, he is on a young team, and veteran like him should be playing to a good and experience team like you have mentioned, the Warriors in the West.
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February 09, 2023, 12:56:18 PM
CP3, Durant, Booker, and Ayton, yeah that will be scary.
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Kyrie Irving reacts to Kevin Durant trade from Nets to Suns: 'I'm just glad that he got out of there'
Just as I thought it was Kyrie who will push KD to get out. #Brotherhood.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kyrie-irving-reacts-to-kevin-durant-trade-from-nets-to-suns-im-just-glad-that-he-got-out-of-there/


I'm know sure how all this will work out for the Brooklyn Nets, it looks like a tough situation to be in, but I'm really glad the let go of both KD and Kyrie together there's no point letting one go and keeping the other, and the Brooklyn Nets will be better off in a couple of years with this decision even if not immediately, because now they're having a younger squad with less ego.

As for the Suns, I smell trouble in paradise, but I hope I am actually wrong on this because, it's a different thing to look scary and to actually be scary, I'm sure we had a similar opinion of Brooklyn Nets with James Harden, Kyrie and Durant on the same roster, and I'd say that look more scarier than this Phoenix Suns, but it might all ball down to the chemistry and relationship their able to build at end the of the day though, but I guess we can only just imagine until it begins to happen, right?

It's will boils down to the ego of CP3 and Booker. This two seems to work during their first year, they made it to the finals but eventually lost to Bucks. But after that it was a roller coaster for them, but now that they have KD it could be a different ball club all together.

We've seen Durant fits perfectly with the Warriors, so it could be the game with the Suns. So let's see how it goes, not sure when is Durant going back. As for the Nets, yeah, they have to let go of the Kyrie and Durant because the environment become toxic already.

Might be possible that Durant will fit to the Suns system, I think much better to say that he should as he really one of the prime player
who can contribute a lot in both sides of the court.

Chemistry wise, if all the three stars do have same goal to win a title, it will be easy to each of them to adjust and let the help be executed.

We will see what's Durant impact to his new team once he returns and start playing.

 
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February 09, 2023, 12:46:09 PM
CP3, Durant, Booker, and Ayton, yeah that will be scary.
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Kyrie Irving reacts to Kevin Durant trade from Nets to Suns: 'I'm just glad that he got out of there'
Just as I thought it was Kyrie who will push KD to get out. #Brotherhood.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kyrie-irving-reacts-to-kevin-durant-trade-from-nets-to-suns-im-just-glad-that-he-got-out-of-there/


I'm know sure how all this will work out for the Brooklyn Nets, it looks like a tough situation to be in, but I'm really glad the let go of both KD and Kyrie together there's no point letting one go and keeping the other, and the Brooklyn Nets will be better off in a couple of years with this decision even if not immediately, because now they're having a younger squad with less ego.

As for the Suns, I smell trouble in paradise, but I hope I am actually wrong on this because, it's a different thing to look scary and to actually be scary, I'm sure we had a similar opinion of Brooklyn Nets with James Harden, Kyrie and Durant on the same roster, and I'd say that look more scarier than this Phoenix Suns, but it might all ball down to the chemistry and relationship their able to build at end the of the day though, but I guess we can only just imagine until it begins to happen, right?

It's will boils down to the ego of CP3 and Booker. This two seems to work during their first year, they made it to the finals but eventually lost to Bucks. But after that it was a roller coaster for them, but now that they have KD it could be a different ball club all together.

We've seen Durant fits perfectly with the Warriors, so it could be the game with the Suns. So let's see how it goes, not sure when is Durant going back. As for the Nets, yeah, they have to let go of the Kyrie and Durant because the environment become toxic already.
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February 09, 2023, 12:45:10 PM
Still digesting the Durant to Phoenix move. I wonder if Durant will buy a house in the valley…

One situation I can’t say I understand is that the Cavaliers are rumored to be considering buying out Kevin Love’s contract. He’s on the last year of his deal so I don’t know what they’d get from doing that and I’m sure Love isn’t going to take a massive loss on his contract to be a free agent a few months sooner. If he is bought out though, I imagine a contender will scoop him up. I think he’d be a good fit for the Warriors.
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February 09, 2023, 12:34:51 PM
Wow, I had absolutely no idea that there was a possibility like this. I guess everyone was focused on Kyrie deal and I didn't even notice this possibility at all. I always thought Lebron and AD has a good relationship both on and off the court. AD might have been seen less than enthusiastic at that moment but I don't expect any issue between them. When healthy, AD always contributes as much as he can and I think everyone would agree that he is a great player and maybe one of the top players in the league. But I can't stress it enough: 'healthy'. We have an excited day ahead of us about the trades. Can't wait the see the surprises.
We’ll see. It seems like there is too much talk about something happening for nothing to happen, but that’s the way it goes sometimes. Still, I’m on high alert for something big in the next 24 hours. The only troublesome part is that there are so many rumors, you don’t know what’s real and what is wishful thinking. No matter what happens though, I’m pretty sure Durant won’t be suiting up in a Nets uniform next season.
I agree that it is nothing out of nothing, and there isn't anything real about all these drama. If it happens then we would say it happened and I would understand the point of it, but before anything happens, we could just chulk that up to AD being tired or something, or hurting because god knows he is always hurting.

I agree that it is not a "good look", you should celebrate a lot if your teammate who brought you to that team and won a title with you passes Kareem, but if not.. well that's fine too. Important thing is, Lebron broke the record and that's it, whatever other trade rumours are going on, they are just rumours and they are fine.
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February 09, 2023, 12:17:23 PM
CP3, Durant, Booker, and Ayton, yeah that will be scary.
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Kyrie Irving reacts to Kevin Durant trade from Nets to Suns: 'I'm just glad that he got out of there'
Just as I thought it was Kyrie who will push KD to get out. #Brotherhood.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kyrie-irving-reacts-to-kevin-durant-trade-from-nets-to-suns-im-just-glad-that-he-got-out-of-there/


I'm not sure how all of these will work out for the Brooklyn Nets, it looks like a tough situation to be in, but I'm really glad they let go of both KD and Kyrie together there's no point letting one go and keeping the other, and the Brooklyn Nets will be better off in a couple of years with this decision even if not immediately, because now they're having a younger squad with less ego.

As for the Suns, I smell trouble in paradise, but I hope I am actually wrong on this because, it's a different thing to look scary and to actually be scary, I'm sure we had a similar opinion of Brooklyn Nets with James Harden, Kyrie and Durant on the same roster, and I'd say that looked more scarier than this Phoenix Suns, but it might all ball down to the chemistry and relationship they are able to build at end the of the day though, but I guess we can only just imagine until it begins to happen, right?
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February 09, 2023, 11:22:00 AM
Now that Irving and Durant have been traded, Brooklyn is likely out of the championship race. I'm curious if Kyrie will improve Dallas or if he will make another drama and screw up the team or chemistry. This guy seems to like creating drama this past. If not, Doncic has a lot of help this time and will make the Mavericks a better title contender.
I won't be so sure just yet. If they can build good chemistry in haste then they might become a formidable team.
Think about the lineup.
Cam Thomas, Spencer Dinwiddie, Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, Nic Claxton, and Ben Simmons.
Bench players are Dorian Finney-Smith, Jae Crowder, Seth Curry, Edmond Sumner, Royce O'Neale, and Joe Harris.
This team is filled with popular roleplayers, I bet Coach Jacque Vaughn will be happy if his play style will be rotating these guys nonstop because all of them can definitely contribute on both ends of the floor.

Meanwhile, I wonder if Jazz will improve now that they have Westbrook. Now that he is in Jazz, he could be potentially their main player as that is how Westbrook is. Maybe can have if not near or maybe half of his performance while he was still in OKC.

As for the Suns, they have gained the most in this trade with Durant's addition to their lineup.
Westbrook already accepted to be a bench player even in the Lakers team, so I doubt he will take over in the Jazz as Clarkson will probably be the main focus of playmaking and Markannen as their offensive weapon.

CP3, Durant, Booker, and Ayton, yeah that will be scary.
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Kyrie Irving reacts to Kevin Durant trade from Nets to Suns: 'I'm just glad that he got out of there'
Just as I thought it was Kyrie who will push KD to get out. #Brotherhood.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kyrie-irving-reacts-to-kevin-durant-trade-from-nets-to-suns-im-just-glad-that-he-got-out-of-there/
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February 09, 2023, 10:42:35 AM
Now that Irving and Durant have been traded, Brooklyn is likely out of the championship race.
That much is already known but they may still make it to the playoffs or in the play-in at least. Too bad the young guys won't have a mentor right now but Cam Thomas is enjoying his new role and has given the Nets over 40 points in three consecutive games.

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Meanwhile, I wonder if Jazz will improve now that they have Westbrook. Now that he is in Jazz, he could be potentially their main player as that is how Westbrook is. Maybe can have if not near or maybe half of his performance while he was still in OKC.
I honestly do not know. At least WB will be given more room to play his own style so hopefully that will benefit the Jazz.
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February 09, 2023, 07:56:11 AM
Now that Irving and Durant have been traded, Brooklyn is likely out of the championship race. I'm curious if Kyrie will improve Dallas or if he will make another drama and screw up the team or chemistry. This guy seems to like creating drama this past. If not, Doncic has a lot of help this time and will make the Mavericks a better title contender.

Meanwhile, I wonder if Jazz will improve now that they have Westbrook. Now that he is in Jazz, he could be potentially their main player as that is how Westbrook is. Maybe can have if not near or maybe half of his performance while he was still in OKC.

As for the Suns, they have gained the most in this trade with Durant's addition to their lineup.
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February 09, 2023, 07:21:27 AM
Some might saw it already, but I'll share my opinion with this 3 team trade deal.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/lakers-trade-russell-westbrook-blockbuster-3-team-deal-reports
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3 team trade deal
Los Angeles Lakers - D'Angelo Russell, Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt
Utah Jazz - Russell Westbrook, Juan Toscano-Anderson, Damian Jones, and Los Angeles' protected 2027 first-round pick
Minnesota Timberwolves - Mike Conley, Nickeil Alexander-Walker and three second-round picks

All of the 3 teams are winners on this one because the players that they've got will have an effect on the team that they will be playing now. Well, at least that's what I saw in this one.

Utah Jazz - The roster is composed of young players like Clarkson, Sexton, Markkanen, THT. They have lots of scorers and adding Westbrook which is a past-first player will be a big help for the team because he can just pass the ball to these scorers. Add also JTA and Damian Jones for defensive purposes.
Los Angeles Lakers - The Lakers are in need of a point guard that can also score and Russell is the good pick for this one since he's fit for the team. It's a re-unite after him being traded. After the acquisition of Hachimura, they also added Jarred Vanderbilt which is a very good defender as well. Beasley on the other hand is a streaky three-point shooter.
Minnesota Timberwolves - Of all the three, they are the ones that I see the players that they got will have a less impact within the team. A veteran Conley might still be helpful with the team because he's a reliable point guard and his experience might help the team, the age though is a problem at least.

My first reaction was Minnesota seems like giving up this season and then I realized that a veteran Conley might be a good addition to boost Gobert's morale. I knew they were trying to unload D'Angelo even before the start of the season but they just can't find a fair trade. I think Minnesota lost a little in this trade but at least it tried to change something that might work. And the 3 future 2nd round draft picks are just part of the bonus for losing D'Angelo. 

I honestly don't think Utah gained anything here. Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt would've been developed and gained meaningful experience when the time Utah is getting their future top picks. There's a chance they will just release Russ. And Russ might steal the rebounds of Markkanen and JC will have less time holding the ball to set up his play. Cheesy

The Lakers absolutely gained a lot in this trade. Any top teams in the west might be in danger in the first round of the playoffs if the Lakers' roster remains healthy.   
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February 09, 2023, 07:20:00 AM
Holy shit! I’m hearing about the Durant news and this is crazy. The Nets traded him for basically nothing! This has got to be a rent a Durant situation. When Booker comes back this team might be the best in the league. If Ayton can play like he’s capable of they should win it all this year. I can’t believe what a steal the Suns just pulled off. Gonna have to grab myself some tickets.

They want to take advantage of their current situation this season because there are possibilities that they will gonna be knocked out again if they don't add some star players to their team. Currently, they are number 6 and if they gonna get well with KD in their rosters, they will gonna improve it more since they are now having more players that are capable of helping them get to the NBA finals again.

Any team who will get Durant will surely become a championship team. Durant is one of the best players in the NBA now, he could be number 1 if he was healthy, unfortunately, he is prone to injury now. However, if he gets traded with the Suns, I think Durant will not have to carry all the burden as he has Booker who is also a scoring machine, which he can rely on.

Still all matter depends on his teammates since they didn't work together with his old star teammates. They have Irving and Harden way back then plus Simmons has been added but it end up not good because his star teammates became liability to them since they are not cooperating as a team.
Correction, Simmons was added but it was in exchange of Harden who are now with the 76ers.
I believe when the big 3 were playing together, they created a good team, it's just unfortunate because they are drag by injuries that happened to Harden and Irving. Irving and Durant battle the bucks, Irving was injured then Harden played, but he was not 100% that time.

I think a healthy big 3 would beat the Bucks.

But since he is paired up now with Booker and CP3 maybe this will be different since CP3 can have two option to pass the ball since he have best shooters in team to rely on.
agree
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February 09, 2023, 07:08:43 AM
I woke up early yesterday to watch LeBron's record live, couldn't sleep much last days anyway. It was also good for distraction. We witnessed history. I don't know when will we see a moment like that again.
Funny part is Lakers lost all games when LeBron past other topscorers. This didn't change in last game as well. I wish his team was more competitive but I guess they wouldn't even go for play-offs this season.

I think the Lakers will perform better after tonight's trade, as they finally got rid of Westbrook. So if Davis doesn't get injured again, the Lakers will have a good chance to make at least a play-in tournament, as they still have 27 more games before the end of the regular season.
As for LeBron's record, he has the potential to score over 42k+ points before the end of his career, and that might make his record unattainable.
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February 09, 2023, 07:04:18 AM
Holy shit! I’m hearing about the Durant news and this is crazy. The Nets traded him for basically nothing! This has got to be a rent a Durant situation. When Booker comes back this team might be the best in the league. If Ayton can play like he’s capable of they should win it all this year. I can’t believe what a steal the Suns just pulled off. Gonna have to grab myself some tickets.
So the rumor that I mentioned was spot on. It is the Phoenix Suns, indeed. Booker is back OG, he already played against the Nets.

So it's KD and TJ Warren, wow!!! That's big! Because Warren is not a bench "bench", he can also contribute wild numbers if he feels it.
In exchange for Jae Crowder, Mikal Bridges, and Cam Johnson. Yeah, I think that will just be right.
I never thought the Suns would just give up Bridges like that, I mean he had been one of their core players and always stepping up his game if they are undermanned.
This will be good for both teams. I don't think Phoenix Suns is the only winner here as the Brooklyn Nets will now be filled with great roleplayers.
Actually, I think they may end up being one of the top teams with a deep bench. Maybe the Nets will focus on Cam Thomas.
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February 09, 2023, 06:55:29 AM
Holy shit! I’m hearing about the Durant news and this is crazy. The Nets traded him for basically nothing! This has got to be a rent a Durant situation. When Booker comes back this team might be the best in the league. If Ayton can play like he’s capable of they should win it all this year. I can’t believe what a steal the Suns just pulled off. Gonna have to grab myself some tickets.

They want to take advantage of their current situation this season because there are possibilities that they will gonna be knocked out again if they don't add some star players to their team. Currently, they are number 6 and if they gonna get well with KD in their rosters, they will gonna improve it more since they are now having more players that are capable of helping them get to the NBA finals again.

Any team who will get Durant will surely become a championship team. Durant is one of the best players in the NBA now, he could be number 1 if he was healthy, unfortunately, he is prone to injury now. However, if he gets traded with the Suns, I think Durant will not have to carry all the burden as he has Booker who is also a scoring machine, which he can rely on.

Still all matter depends on his teammates since they didn't work together with his old star teammates. They have Irving and Harden way back then plus Simmons has been added but it end up not good because his star teammates became liability to them since they are not cooperating as a team. But since he is paired up now with Booker and CP3 maybe this will be different since CP3 can have two option to pass the ball since he have best shooters in team to rely on.

Maybe  CP3 will have his chance in winning the title now, KD is a legit scorer and with Booker and the rest of the team.

They can now match up to those super teams who got multiple superstars. But just like what you mentioned , it will be depend  with how his teammates will play with him and how they will execute the system  that will be fit for him under the Suns uniform
Yes, this will be his last chance to win a ring before retiring and become a HOF.

This is really big for the Suns to get KD with Booker. They didn't put a damage on their first five, Ayton will still be there and so CP3. So that is a solid starting five for them. And again, we can go back to Ja Morant's statement, he is fine in the West, Lol, KD is now on their conference again. So he need to worry a lot of teams from the West now.
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February 09, 2023, 06:50:07 AM
Holy shit! I’m hearing about the Durant news and this is crazy. The Nets traded him for basically nothing! This has got to be a rent a Durant situation. When Booker comes back this team might be the best in the league. If Ayton can play like he’s capable of they should win it all this year. I can’t believe what a steal the Suns just pulled off. Gonna have to grab myself some tickets.

They want to take advantage of their current situation this season because there are possibilities that they will gonna be knocked out again if they don't add some star players to their team. Currently, they are number 6 and if they gonna get well with KD in their rosters, they will gonna improve it more since they are now having more players that are capable of helping them get to the NBA finals again.

Any team who will get Durant will surely become a championship team. Durant is one of the best players in the NBA now, he could be number 1 if he was healthy, unfortunately, he is prone to injury now. However, if he gets traded with the Suns, I think Durant will not have to carry all the burden as he has Booker who is also a scoring machine, which he can rely on.

Still all matter depends on his teammates since they didn't work together with his old star teammates. They have Irving and Harden way back then plus Simmons has been added but it end up not good because his star teammates became liability to them since they are not cooperating as a team. But since he is paired up now with Booker and CP3 maybe this will be different since CP3 can have two option to pass the ball since he have best shooters in team to rely on.

Maybe  CP3 will have his chance in winning the title now, KD is a legit scorer and with Booker and the rest of the team.

They can now match up to those super teams who got multiple superstars. But just like what you mentioned , it will be depend  with how his teammates will play with him and how they will execute the system  that will be fit for him under the Suns uniform
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February 09, 2023, 06:27:15 AM
Some might saw it already, but I'll share my opinion with this 3 team trade deal.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/lakers-trade-russell-westbrook-blockbuster-3-team-deal-reports
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3 team trade deal
Los Angeles Lakers - D'Angelo Russell, Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt
Utah Jazz - Russell Westbrook, Juan Toscano-Anderson, Damian Jones, and Los Angeles' protected 2027 first-round pick
Minnesota Timberwolves - Mike Conley, Nickeil Alexander-Walker and three second-round picks

All of the 3 teams are winners on this one because the players that they've got will have an effect on the team that they will be playing now. Well, at least that's what I saw in this one.

Utah Jazz - The roster is composed of young players like Clarkson, Sexton, Markkanen, THT. They have lots of scorers and adding Westbrook which is a past-first player will be a big help for the team because he can just pass the ball to these scorers. Add also JTA and Damian Jones for defensive purposes.
Los Angeles Lakers - The Lakers are in need of a point guard that can also score and Russell is the good pick for this one since he's fit for the team. It's a re-unite after him being traded. After the acquisition of Hachimura, they also added Jarred Vanderbilt which is a very good defender as well. Beasley on the other hand is a streaky three-point shooter.
Minnesota Timberwolves - Of all the three, they are the ones that I see the players that they got will have a less impact within the team. A veteran Conley might still be helpful with the team because he's a reliable point guard and his experience might help the team, the age though is a problem at least.
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